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Offline troyt37

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2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« on: February 04, 2011, 09:44:34 PM »
Check the list regularly. It's growing every day. 42 offers and counting as of today. BMFP doesn't give a damn what you think about "offseason."
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 09:36:54 PM »
63 offers as of today. Lots of LB, DE, DT, OL.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 09:31:19 PM »
Not sure why I keep tracking this, probably means nothing. With the exception of Vandy being at the top of the list, I would think it's better to have more offers out there judging by the programs near the top.

# of offers as of today:

SEC

Vanderbilt - 122
Auburn - 118
S. Carolina - 116
Tennessee - 116
Alabama - 111
Florida - 111
Arkansas - 97
Georgia - 72
LSU - 70
Mississippi St. - 68
Kentucky - 57
Mississippi - 52  Daylight to exhaustion. ::)

For comparison, some other notables:

Michigan - 115
Notre Dame - 102
Florida State - 97
Nebraska - 67
USC - 62
Penn St. - 60
Ohio St. - 49
Oklahoma - 36
Texas - 31

Must be nice to have all that talent knocking down your door, and suck to not have the ability to pick the right ones.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 07:19:19 AM »
Can't get them if they don't offer.  Petrino understands that most of these offers are more for advertising purposes than securing top shelf talent.  He hopes to bring these kids into his palace and let them go home and talk about how "backward" Arkansas football has become.   True dividends are paid off 3-5 years in recruiting an area both from relationships with the coaches, and influencing younger players.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2011, 11:26:52 PM »
136 offers as of today. Not quite 54% are to Rivals , and . If I get the time, I'll get the % for the other SEC schools.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 12:32:43 AM »
I don't even know why my brain wonders about these things, but here goes. Someone who knows more than me would have to discern what, if anything, this means. Does LSU, Florida, Bama, and Auburn offer more 5 stars because they are the ones with a realistic chance at a committment, or do these kids become 5 stars when the goobers at Rivals see offers from those schools?

LSU-84 offers, 81% to 4/5 stars. 7-5 stars offered.
Florida-128 offers, 80% to 4/5 stars. 14-5 stars offered.
Alabama-139 offers, 75% to 4/5 stars. 9-5 stars offered.
Auburn-152 offers, 74% to 4/5 stars. 15-5 stars offered.
Tennessee-144 offers, 68% to 4/5 stars. 9-5 stars offered.
S. Carolina-142 offers, 59% to 4/5 stars. 9-5 stars offered.
Arkansas-136 offers, 54% to 4/5 stars. 4-5 stars offered.
Vanderbilt-192 offers, 44% to 4/5 stars. 5-5 stars offered.
Ole Miss-80 offers, 34% to 4/5 stars. 0-5 stars offered.
Kentucky-85 offers, 33% to 4/5 stars. 0-5 stars offered.
Miss. St-101 offers, 32% to 4/5 stars. 1-5 star offered.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 02:46:16 AM »
I don't even know why my brain wonders about these things, but here goes. Someone who knows more than me would have to discern what, if anything, this means. Does LSU, Florida, Bama, and Auburn offer more 5 stars because they are the ones with a realistic chance at a committment, or do these kids become 5 stars when the goobers at Rivals see offers from those schools?

From what I've seen, a little yes to all of that.  Alabama knows it will get some players directly because of their bloated history.  Might as well ask the most talented kids first.
It's like Jessica Biel can bed pretty much any guy she would like.  Both are talented guys, but she offered Justin Timberlake before Steve Buscemi.  Unfortunately for Buscemi, Timberlake signed.  Buscemi remains without an offer at this time.
Sticking with a crappy theme, sometimes when an ordinary guy lands a hot chick, the guy is a little more desirable to other chicks.  Same thing with ratings and players that become 4~5 stars instead of the 3 stars they should be.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 01:37:54 PM »
So what I can take from the new article on the front page.... we're still 7th in potential  :stache:

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 12:26:45 AM »
Some info I found interesting updating the offer list. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Petrino should be blushing. I've only made it through the wide receivers updating offer lists, putting the date I made the addition, and the schools added. Here is a list of the SEC schools who have made an offer to a recruit AFTER Arkansas has offered. I know all of the SEC coaches don't get their cues from Petrino then Rivals (Saban), but it looks like some of them may.

Auburn -7 recruits offered after Petrino.
Vanderbilt -6 recruits offered after Petrino.
LSU -5 recruits offered after Petrino.
Tennessee -4 recruits offered after Petrino.
South Carolina - 4 recruits offered after Petrino.
Georgia -3 recruits offered after Petrino.
Florida, Kentucky, aMm -2 recruits offered after Petrino.
Alabama - 1 recruit offered after Petrino.

Remember, this is just QB's, RB's, and WR's. You can see a trend developing. Add the fact that all but 4 of the Arkansas offers were made before the Rivals 250 came out, and you get an idea about the kind of talent evaluator we have. This list includes some other notables:

Michigan, Notre Dame - 6 offers after Petrino.
Clemson - 5
Pitt, Miami, Purdue - 4
Texas A&M, Washington, Nebraska, Oklahoma St., Colorado, Florida State, Penn State, Syracuse, Oregon, North Carolina, Illinois - 3

And 48 other schools with 1-3 offers that were sloppy seconds to our coach. We won't get all of these kids for various reasons, but you can bet that we are among the first to offer kids that can play.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 10:56:15 AM »
Great stuff, solid work!

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 12:05:24 PM »
Nice...  frick Rivals, Scout, and 24/7, who needs them.  That's why I trust our staff, the players we bring in with less stars say UR and 2 star athletes are most likely atleast 3/4 star recruits that just couldn't make it out to camps.  Petrino and staff recognize talent and it looks like other coaches notice talented talent finders.

I like what we've got going on here.  Great info you found there

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2011, 12:15:25 PM »
Some info I found interesting updating the offer list. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Petrino should be blushing. I've only made it through the wide receivers updating offer lists, putting the date I made the addition, and the schools added. Here is a list of the SEC schools who have made an offer to a recruit AFTER Arkansas has offered. I know all of the SEC coaches don't get their cues from Petrino then Rivals (Saban), but it looks like some of them may.

Auburn -7 recruits offered after Petrino.
Vanderbilt -6 recruits offered after Petrino.
LSU -5 recruits offered after Petrino.
Tennessee -4 recruits offered after Petrino.
South Carolina - 4 recruits offered after Petrino.
Georgia -3 recruits offered after Petrino.
Florida, Kentucky, aMm -2 recruits offered after Petrino.
Alabama - 1 recruit offered after Petrino.

Remember, this is just QB's, RB's, and WR's. You can see a trend developing. Add the fact that all but 4 of the Arkansas offers were made before the Rivals 250 came out, and you get an idea about the kind of talent evaluator we have. This list includes some other notables:

Michigan, Notre Dame - 6 offers after Petrino.
Clemson - 5
Pitt, Miami, Purdue - 4
Texas A&M, Washington, Nebraska, Oklahoma St., Colorado, Florida State, Penn State, Syracuse, Oregon, North Carolina, Illinois - 3

And 48 other schools with 1-3 offers that were sloppy seconds to our coach. We won't get all of these kids for various reasons, but you can bet that we are among the first to offer kids that can play.

This is the second of your posts that I've turned into an article. Nice work, dude.

http://woopig.net/index.php/2011/05/petrinos-evaluation-skills/

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2011, 04:09:45 PM »
Thanks boss. I'm flattered.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 05:26:44 PM »
Some info I found interesting updating the offer list. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Petrino should be blushing. I've only made it through the wide receivers updating offer lists, putting the date I made the addition, and the schools added. Here is a list of the SEC schools who have made an offer to a recruit AFTER Arkansas has offered. I know all of the SEC coaches don't get their cues from Petrino then Rivals (Saban), but it looks like some of them may.

Auburn -7 recruits offered after Petrino.
Vanderbilt -6 recruits offered after Petrino.
LSU -5 recruits offered after Petrino.
Tennessee -4 recruits offered after Petrino.
South Carolina - 4 recruits offered after Petrino.
Georgia -3 recruits offered after Petrino.
Florida, Kentucky, aMm -2 recruits offered after Petrino.
Alabama - 1 recruit offered after Petrino.

Remember, this is just QB's, RB's, and WR's. You can see a trend developing. Add the fact that all but 4 of the Arkansas offers were made before the Rivals 250 came out, and you get an idea about the kind of talent evaluator we have. This list includes some other notables:

Michigan, Notre Dame - 6 offers after Petrino.
Clemson - 5
Pitt, Miami, Purdue - 4
Texas A&M, Washington, Nebraska, Oklahoma St., Colorado, Florida State, Penn State, Syracuse, Oregon, North Carolina, Illinois - 3

And 48 other schools with 1-3 offers that were sloppy seconds to our coach. We won't get all of these kids for various reasons, but you can bet that we are among the first to offer kids that can play.

Notice which SEC school is missing from that list. Is Nutt afraid to compete with Petrino for recruits or is he lazy and hasnt offered anyone yet?
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 05:53:17 PM »
Thanks boss. I'm flattered.



That's the Rivals database screen that's 'shopped in there. :D


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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2011, 09:37:25 PM »
Thanks boss. I'm flattered.



You should ask him for a raise.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2011, 10:35:25 PM »
You should ask him for a raise.

I would, but I'd feel bad about it. Where do you think all them woopig dues you've been paying are going? I'm running out of places to stack the cash as it is. ;D
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2011, 12:12:26 AM »
Updated totals in the "Offer Whoever Petrino Offers" category. Through the (ATH) on the offer list.

SEC
Auburn 9 offers AP (after Petrino)
Vanderbilt 9 offers AP
LSU 6 offers AP
Tennessee 6 offers AP
Mississippi St. 5 offers AP
South Carolina 4 offers AP
Kentucky 4 offers AP
Georgia 3 offers AP
Florida 2 offers AP
Alabama 1 offer AP
Ole Miss 1 offer AP   Boy, I tell ya. My recrootin strategy is just like Nick Saban, Nick Saban.

Big 12 Notable:
Oklahoma State 3 offers AP
Texas A&M 3 offers AP
Texas 1 offer AP

Big 10 Notable:
Michigan 9 offers AP
Purdue 7 offers AP
Nebraska 4 offers AP
Penn St. 4 offers AP
Michigan St. 4 offers AP

PAC 12 Notable:
Colorado 5 offers AP
Oregon 4 offers AP
USC 3 offers AP
Stanford 3 offers AP

ACC Notable:
Clemson 5 offers AP
Miami 4 offers AP
North Carolina 4 offers AP
Florida St. 3 offers AP

Notre Dame 8 offers AP

I wonder if the trend continues with the defensive players.

« Last Edit: May 21, 2011, 09:02:02 PM by troyt37 »
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2011, 01:21:10 AM »
I would, but I'd feel bad about it. Where do you think all them woopig dues you've been paying are going? I'm running out of places to stack the cash as it is. ;D


Dude, you're using a CRT. Are all the dues going to cocaine and hookers?
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2011, 06:07:39 AM »
Big 12 Notable:
Colorado 5 offers AP
Nebraska 4 offers AP


I know you are very detailed & everything, but it's probably safe to go ahead & move Colorado & Nebraska off of the Big 12 list. 

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2011, 06:51:36 AM »
I know you are very detailed & everything, but it's probably safe to go ahead & move Colorado & Nebraska off of the Big 12 list. 

If cfbdatawarehouse says that's where they are, that's damn-well where they are! Don't believe everything you hear.

I'll fix those. Thanks.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2011, 01:30:50 PM »
Obviously, all of these schools were not just waiting to see who Petrino offers before they offer a recruit. They could be doing their own work and coming up with the same kids, just a bit later than our coach. They could be keying off of another coach, who knows? There is too much here for all of it to be coincedence though, and I would bet there is not a chance any other team could come up with such a list of offers they had made beating Petrino.

As of today, through all recruits on our list, these are the schools and the number of recruits who Arkansas had an offer to first.

SEC
Vanderbilt - 17
Auburn - 15
Tennessee - 15
Mississippi St. - 11
Florida - 10
Kentucky - 10
LSU - 9
Georgia - 9
South Carolina - 9
Ole Miss - 6
Alabama - 5

BIG 12 Notables:
Texas A&M - 4
Texas - 3
Oklahoma - 3
Oklahoma St. - 3

BIG 10 Notables:
Nebraska - 15
Michigan - 14
Purdue - 14
Penn St. - 7
Michigan St. - 7
Ohio St. - 4
Wisconsin - 4

PAC 12 Notables:
Oregon - 8
USC - 6
Stanford - 6
Colorado - 6
UCLA - 3

ACC Notables:
Miami - 11
North Carolina - 10
Florida St. - 9
Clemson - 9

Notre Dame - 11

If you add it up, that's 273 times that our coach and staff have beaten the best in the business at evaluating and getting an offer to a recruit. There are 60+ other schools that I didn't take the time to list here. Pretty impressive. If who got their offer in first matters to just 10% of these kids, you can see what a difference it could make.
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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2011, 08:41:57 AM »
Any of you recruitnik's heard anything about this guy?

Calvin Smith, 4* DT from Flahdah that picked New Mexico over a bunch of SEC offers (including Arkansas).  Apparently is now transferring to "be closer to home."  He didn't start last year for the Lobos.

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Re: 2012 Recruiting Discussion...
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2011, 08:38:11 PM »
Arkansas was the first school to offer Kallon. Since then, Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Maryland, North Carolina State, Purdue, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Virginia and Wake Forest have followed suit. He plans to camp at Auburn and Florida this summer.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1228704

Supposedly he has never played foozball before.  Posted this in a thread in the main forum but figured this was worth documenting here if it pans out for us.

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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2011, 08:42:43 PM »
Arkansas was the first school to offer Kallon. Since then, Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Maryland, North Carolina State, Purdue, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Virginia and Wake Forest have followed suit. He plans to camp at Auburn and Florida this summer.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1228704

Supposedly he has never played foozball before.  Posted this in a thread in the main forum but figured this was worth documenting here if it pans out for us.

"I just thank God to be able to be here," Kallon said.

Between the $$$$$$$$$ and the God talk, he is a lock.
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