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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2015, 12:00:10 PM »
When I was living there wrasslin was on WHBQ with Lance Russell and Dave Brown.  It was usually a top rated show.  Never did anything there.

I remember when Lawler went from heel to face, which completely changed his career.  The best thing the Gulas brothers did was their story lines and remarkable cast of heels.  They had a great feel for the pulse of the city and used the heels to reflect the current politics, with Nazis and Japs evolving to Iranians and A-Rabs and Gorgeous George clones.  They never used a black heel that wasn't a foreign character, and really led the way with integrated tag teams, which probably helped the city back in the 70's.

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2015, 12:53:46 PM »
Probably the best wrasslin anywhere.  Lawler started out as "Dr. Frank" who was a sort of Frankenstein idiot who just stalked around grunting and choking people.
The 70's cast included, but was not limited too:
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Jimmy Heart got his start there
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He was balding even in his early 20's.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2015, 12:56:35 PM »

Bill Dundee and 'Hacksaw' Jim Duggan.           :thumbup:
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2015, 01:06:01 PM »
Wasn't all this under Mid-South wrestling?  The Memphis wrestlers would come to LR and fight. Used to love watching Texas 'rasslin on KTVT and Georgia 'rasslin on TBS.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2015, 01:16:55 PM »
Cowboy Bill Watts and The Junkyard Dog. Saturday afternoon Mid South on WABG. Right after Bandstand.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2015, 01:19:59 PM »
Probably the best wrasslin anywhere.  Lawler started out as "Dr. Frank" who was a sort of Frankenstein idiot who just stalked around grunting and choking people.
The 70's cast included, but was not limited too:
Cocoa B. Ware
Bill Dundee
Handsome Jimmy Valiant
Iron Sheik
Tojo Yamamoto
Dusty Rhodes
Jim Dugan(NOT Dugger)
Jimmy Heart got his start there
The Hulk Terry Boulder turned into Hilk Hogan.
He was balding even in his early 20's.

Do you remember Pork Chop Cash?

I remember him telling Lance Russell one day (and I quote)...

"Everybody calls Jerry Lawler "The King" 'cause he 'post to be the best rassler in the world and all that. People call me Pork Chop Cash 'cause....well...I like pork chops."
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2015, 01:30:30 PM »
Probably the best wrasslin anywhere.  Lawler started out as "Dr. Frank" who was a sort of Frankenstein idiot who just stalked around grunting and choking people.
The 70's cast included, but was not limited too:
Cocoa B. Ware
Bill Dundee
Handsome Jimmy Valiant
Iron Sheik
Tojo Yamamoto
Dusty Rhodes
Jim DE-ugan(NOT Dugger)
Jimmy Heart got his start there
The Hulk Terry Boulder turned into Hilk Hogan.
He was balding even in his early 20's.

The Gulas Brother owned MidSouth Wrestling, and we're based in Nashville but the Memphis show is what made their bones.  Jimmy Hart had a local band called the Gentrys who befriended Lawler who got him involved and made him a first class heel manager.  Tojo Yamamoto and Professor Tanaka used to hang out at Dyer's hamburger stand on Cleveland and carpool up to Nashville in Tojo's Cadillac.  Tojo was from Mississippi I believe, and went from heel (hence the name) to a face as part of Jackie Fargo's crew.  I remember Don Green made Fargo cry one Saturday making fun of his daddy and crazy brother Roughhouse who supposedly lived at Bolivar State Mental Hospital and was snuck out for special matches.

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2015, 01:37:02 PM »
don't forget the mississippi moondogs

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2015, 08:06:03 AM »
Cowboy Bill Watts came the closest to actually pulling the mask off of Dr. X. It was an epic battle at the Hot Springs Boys Club circa 1970 ish.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2015, 08:26:26 AM »
I had a rep calling on me who was a wrestling referee in Memphis in the late 80's.  He would entertain folks by doing the razor in the tape trick on his head.  He was good at looking the wrong way in the ring.  He quit when they wanted to start involving the ref in the action and his job would have started requiring him to get hit in the head with folding chairs or getting thrown out of the ring by someone like Lawler.

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2015, 08:42:37 AM »
Do you remember Pork Chop Cash?

I remember him telling Lance Russell one day (and I quote)...

"Everybody calls Jerry Lawler "The King" 'cause he 'post to be the best rassler in the world and all that. People call me Pork Chop Cash 'cause....well...I like pork chops."

Went to the matches at Barton early 80's and Pork Chops hit a "plant" in the audience who was holding a baby. Fat old lady on the front row would mimick every move of Crazy Luke Graham.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2015, 08:47:57 AM »
Do you remember Pork Chop Cash?

I remember him telling Lance Russell one day (and I quote)...

"Everybody calls Jerry Lawler "The King" 'cause he 'post to be the best rassler in the world and all that. People call me Pork Chop Cash 'cause....well...I like pork chops."

I vividly remember this.  We were watching at my Gramma's on the floor like we always did(usually five or eight of us) an to this day a friend of mine that wa there says that all the time when he's drinking.  "Well, I like pork chops"

don't forget the mississippi moondogs

They had a late 70's Camaro (brown with the top chopped off.  Literally chopped, like with a torch.  Windshield posts, glass, everything above the door sill.  They would tear ass around tunica on a Saturday like idiots.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2015, 02:21:33 PM »
Cowboy Bill Watts came the closest to actually pulling the mask off of Dr. X. It was an epic battle at the Hot Springs Boys Club circa 1970 ish.

Met Dr X in 1999.  He was bringing a wrestling card to Northwest Arkansas and I helped him with some of the marketing and advertising.

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2015, 03:57:09 PM »
Boyd Pierce and his loud sport coat want you to know that the great Danny Hodge would whup all they asses. Bar none.


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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2015, 05:20:51 PM »
It's come to this:


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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2015, 10:22:37 PM »
Limited number=all the ones we couldn't sell.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2015, 10:56:12 PM »
Limited number=all the ones we couldn't sell.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2015, 01:59:11 PM »
Remember that Memphis refuses to play us and Tenn anymore in basketball and they only play Ole Miss because Ole Miss plays them  home and homes in football in exchange. Well times are getting tough. They are fudging attendance figures at the Forum to hide that attendance is really tanking and it's only going to get worse next year if  Boy Wonder doesn't pull a rabbit out if his ass and learn to coach.

2014 was a magic year in their agreement with the Grizz on their use of the Forum. Here's  an article on the agreement from back in 2004:

Tigers ship out to the FedExForum

By Ben Cowens

On December 8, 2004

Two months into the Tigers reign at FedExForum, many of the financial facts and figures remain to be seen, but Athletics Director R. C. Johnson says initial ticket sales are as expected.

"From a ticket standpoint, we're right where we thought we'd be," Johnson said.

At such an early stage in the 20-year agreement, that's about the only question that has been answered.

When the men's basketball team vacated The Pyramid, they left a number of potential revenue streams along with it.

According to the Pyramid finance and use agreement, The University of Memphis received 95 percent of the revenue for 23 of the venue's 26 suites at all Tigers home games and a small portion of suite revenue for non-university events. Bill Lofton, associate athletic director of finance, said the agreement equaled 53 percent of all suite revenue at The Pyramid.

In addition, The University also would have received all parking revenue and a majority of advertising revenue, along with 10 percent of all concessions at The Pyramid.

The agreement also stated that the City of Memphis and Shelby County "agree to provide all risk property/casualty insurance or its equivalent for facilities and improvements and to pay all taxes incident thereto."The University avoided fees for television and radio broadcast facilities at The Pyramid as well.

At FedExForum, the list of fees is longer and the list of perks is much shorter. The U of M is responsible for numerous fees, including all insurance costs and rental fees for use of FedExForum broadcast facilities.

The move also means a jump in the Tigers' seat rental payment to the city and county. The cost jumped from 50 cents per seat at The Pyramid to $1.15 at the Forum.

The University also pays a $10,000 per game license fee to Hoops L.D -- the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies NBA franchise.

In addition, Hoops L.D. retains all concessions revenue and various perecentages of parking and merchandise revenue to all Tigers home games.

While the agreement may seem stacked against The University's decision to move, there is one number that is decidedly in their favor. "We felt the best we had ever done at The Pyramid (minus ticket sales) was $525,000. The Grizzlies offered us $800,000 to move there."

According to the FedExForum use agreement, Hoops agrees to make an $800,000 annual payment to The U of M, which Johnson believes offsets the limited number of income sources and any additional fees.

"I don't know if we could have ever reached $800,000 (in non-ticket revenue at The Pyramid)," Johnson said. "What's happening now with us and the Grizzlies (in town), we're still selling tickets but people don't come to the games as much. There are so many games that they pick and choose, whereas before we were kind of the only game in town. Having said that, we felt like there would be a loss of attendance that would hurt concessions, parking (and other streams of revenue)."

According to Lofton, who was close to the FedExForum use agreement negotiations, the annual payment accomplished something else: a steady flow of income from year to year.

"We saw early on (in negotiations) that the best strategy for us was a guaranteed income."

The FedExForum contract also accomplished another University goal: reducing game day costs.

"The last few years in The Pyramid ... it was costing us anywhere from $27,000-$30,000 a game," Lofton said. "So our expenses at The Pyramid were much greater."

Lofton said the $10,000 fee paid to Hoops L.P. is the only cost associated directly with each game.

However, the contract isn't as stable as it might initially appear. The 'guaranteed' annual payment is contingent upon two stipulations. For the Tigers to receive the full amount, they must average 10,000 paid attendance each season. If that number drops below 10,000, the guaranteed payment begins to drop as well -- all the way to zero if Memphis averages below 6,000 paid attendance in any season.

In addition to the attendance clause, beginning in 2014 Memphis basketball must pull in at least $235,000 in annual profit for Hoops L.D. or the annual payment can be reduced to compensate for the lost revenue.

For the length of the contract, the $800,000 payment will not be increased for any reason.

While the profit clause is 10 years away, the attendance clause is already in effect and poses a more immediate threat.

With Memphis winning 20 games every year and consistently pulling in top-ten recruiting classes, it seems likely the Tigers will continue to draw well above that number. But Johnson can envision a scenario where attendance could fall off.

"It could drop. We've got to be honest. People like winners," Johnson said. "If we don't win, that's a factor."

Even during this successful run, The Tigers are selling fewer tickets at FedExForum than last year's team did at The Pyramid.

"We won't sell as many," he said. "I think last year we sold around 14,000 (per game). This year, we'll be a little over 12,000.

"We have (fewer) tickets to sell, but we've raised the prices, so when it's all said and done, (ticket revenue) will be a wash."

At the Forum, these ticket sales become even more important, since almost all of The U of M's game-day income must be generated through sales and advertising.

The Tigers receive considerable advertising revenue in the staging area -- including the playing surface and all other equipment associated with the game. Memphis also receives revenue from the digital advertising board on the lower level.

Aside from the suite agreement and about 80 club box tickets provided to FedEx, The U of M will retain all ticket sale revenue to Tigers basketball games at the Forum.

Hoops L.D. also cashes in on Tigers games with suite revenue. The Grizzlies retain the right to sell tickets to 60 of the Forum's 63 suites. The Tigers receive revenue from two of those suites.

The decision to leave The Pyramid wasn't simply contractual.The University had to weigh other factors as well, including the team's financial success under the Pyramid use agreement.

In their final seasons at The Pyramid, Memphis basketball thrived. According to an Institutional Self-Study report submitted to the NCAA, the men's basketball program generated $6,620,533 in revenue for the 2003 fiscal year. The number represented almost 63 percent of all revenue generated in all sports.

In addition, men's basketball turned a profit of $2.82 million, while the department as a whole endured a deficit of about $1.68 million.Still, Lofton said the Tigers past financial performance may not mirror future results.

"If you look at the history of facilities in Memphis ... we were concerned about The Pyramid staying as nice and fresh a building as it is," he said.

The one that is getting the most use is the one that will get the most improvements."

Lofton and Johnson each mentioned a potential loss of suite revenue if the Tigers stayed. The Grizzlies have a "right of first refusal" clause with the city and county, meaning that concerts and other special events that used to be held in The Pyramid -- and generate revenue for The University -- would likely be hosted by the FedExForum.

"We knew the total sales value of the suites was going to go down," Lofton said. "Even though we had 53 percent, it was going to be 53 percent of a smaller number."

From a purely basketball standpoint, the FedExForum represents an upgrade. Head coach John Calipari consistently boasts of the national exposure FedExForum generates and he calls it "one of the best facilities in college basketball."

Aside from the chance to play in a glittering 18,400-seat arena, the team has its own playing floor and locker room. According to Basketball Sports Information Director Lamar Chance, the Tigers locker room should be completed sometime in January.

The building will also attract more television revenue and vie for post-season tournament bids -- including Conference USA and NCAA tournament games -- that will generate more revenue for Hoops and The University.

The Tigers scheduled as many nationally televised dates as the Grizzlies, despite fewer total games. FedExForum will also host this season's Conference USA tournament, which will generate $2.00 per paid ticket for U of M athletics. Hoops will retain the remainder of the post-season tournament's profits.

The state-of-the-art facility could also help recruiting.

"I thought it really gave John a boost to be able to take recruits and show them FedExForum," Johnson said.

Athletics department officials admit, it's too early to tell whether they made the correct decision.

"None of us has a crystal ball," Lofton said.

"It was going to be a gamble either way."

Some even admit The Pyramid could have made The U of M more money.

"Potentially, if every star had lined up and we'd sold out for every game, we could have made more (at The Pyramid)."

The question of financial feasibility will be answered as the years wear on.

"I think right now, everything is slanted a little because it's so brand new," Johnson said. "A lot of people are going just because it's brand new.

"I think the test will come after the novelty has worn off


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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2015, 02:28:08 PM »
I watched a few of their games this year. You could sit about anywhere you wanted. They finally joined a conference that has actual basketball teams. CUSA was a joke and they won it every year. Boy Wonder won't last long at this pace.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2015, 04:09:10 PM »

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2015, 08:34:50 PM »
I watched a few of their games this year. You could sit about anywhere you wanted. They finally joined a conference that has actual basketball teams. CUSA was a joke and they won it every year. Boy Wonder won't last long at this pace.

Rain was saying a month or so ago boy wonder will be gone. New AD is a backroom deal maker and was trying to arrange hex gig for him.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2015, 02:30:11 PM »
Memphis lost Nick King and Pookie Powell to transfers at the end of the season, but in somewhat of a shock cornbread Austin Nichols was a no show at some meetings, requested a transfer and has been refused by Boy Wonder. The war has gone to the media now.

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2015, 08:00:35 AM »
Memphis lost Nick King and Pookie Powell to transfers at the end of the season, but in somewhat of a shock cornbread Austin Nichols was a no show at some meetings, requested a transfer and has been refused by Boy Wonder. The war has gone to the media now.

From what I understand this is all about puthy. Nichols and his cheerleader girlfriend split and he's struggling to get over it so he took his ball, went home and cried to mommy and daddy.
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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2015, 08:08:58 AM »
The big 12 missed a good one when they didn't pick up Memphis.

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Re: LOL Memphis (Tiger High)
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2015, 12:10:30 PM »
The big 12 missed a good one when they didn't pick up Memphis.

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