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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #650 on: August 12, 2017, 01:31:36 PM »
I'm not fishing for anything.

Only Gronk gets treated this way, to my knowledge.
Why?

The ol' party problem narrative has completely disappeared with him.
It's a punchline now.
 

In reality, Gronk is perceived as a loveable goofball who is larger than life but pretty much harmless because of his meathead ways. Kind of like how Bert is seen by the people who like him. Gronk is also productive on the field and his team keeps winning SB's which shuts critics down.

I'm sure in your fevered imaginings, it's something more sinister. 
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #651 on: August 12, 2017, 01:45:38 PM »
You're the one fishing for a response here, clearly.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #652 on: August 12, 2017, 02:18:58 PM »
You're the one fishing for a response here, clearly.
   

Nice try but you forget that I'm familiar with your work.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #653 on: August 12, 2017, 02:32:23 PM »
I seriously have no idea why you're trying to make a battle of this.
Elliott, Manziel, Josh Gordon, countless others are admonished. Legitimate talent or not.
Gronk coasts.
Is it just the Super Bowls? That seems odd.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #654 on: August 12, 2017, 02:37:52 PM »
I seriously have no idea why you're trying to make a battle of this.
Elliott, Manziel, Josh Gordon, countless others are admonished. Legitimate talent or not.
Gronk coasts.
Is it just the Super Bowls? That seems odd.
 

You're conveniently dense at times.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #655 on: August 12, 2017, 03:05:58 PM »
I seriously have no idea why you're trying to make a battle of this.
Elliott, Manziel, Josh Gordon, countless others are admonished. Legitimate talent or not.
Gronk coasts.
Is it just the Super Bowls? That seems odd.

Has Gronk failed a drug test, beat and/or choke out wimmen folk, been popped for a DUI? I haven't heard anything like that so I don't understand the comparisons you're trying to make.

Lots of NFLers party. Most don't behave like criminals.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #657 on: August 12, 2017, 05:17:50 PM »
Bret Goode signed with Green Bay.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #658 on: August 12, 2017, 06:46:00 PM »
Has Gronk failed a drug test, beat and/or choke out wimmen folk, been popped for a DUI? I haven't heard anything like that so I don't understand the comparisons you're trying to make.

Lots of NFLers party. Most don't behave like criminals.

I think the evidence elliot did any wimmen beating is pretty nil, and certainly the police thought the same.
Nothing close to a criminal charge has come from all their investigating.

The real issue for elliot now is regardless of an appeal outcome a second similar charge is a lifetime ban.

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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #659 on: August 12, 2017, 08:14:12 PM »
Bret Goode signed with Green Bay.

Don't they cut and re-sign him every year?

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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #660 on: August 12, 2017, 08:21:31 PM »
Michael Rappaport calling out Zeke is pretty funny if you can find it.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #661 on: August 12, 2017, 08:51:32 PM »
Really happy with this NY Jets defense.

I hope we can play preseason opponents all season long.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #662 on: August 12, 2017, 09:29:05 PM »
Don't they cut and re-sign him every year?

Pretty much but this time he thought it was over.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #663 on: August 12, 2017, 09:44:15 PM »
This is going to be a dumb question but why can't you teach a regular lineman or anybody else for that matter long snapping so you can save a roster spot?

There is obviously some kind of skill to it or else New England or somebody smart would do that.

Maybe they would let Gronk do it!

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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #664 on: August 12, 2017, 09:55:05 PM »
The long snapper is usually athletic enough to get down field and cover/tackle...that's not exactly something you want a 300lb lineman having to do. And I reckon maybe the real reason is because special teams guys normally work apart from the rest of the real football players, they don't want to allocate a 300lb rotation player to specialist work.


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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #665 on: August 12, 2017, 10:06:07 PM »
 

You're conveniently dense at times.

I am?
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #666 on: August 12, 2017, 10:24:09 PM »
The long snapper is usually athletic enough to get down field and cover/tackle...that's not exactly something you want a 300lb lineman having to do. And I reckon maybe the real reason is because special teams guys normally work apart from the rest of the real football players, they don't want to allocate a 300lb rotation player to specialist work.

His job is to snap the football right to the punter and holder.  Basically, do not fuck up and cost us a game.  There is comfort in having someone on your team who will not fuck up.  When he was trying to break into the league, he got some tryouts from some teams because the snapper fucked up.   He originally got cut from Green Bay because they were afraid of having a rookie at snapper, holder, and punter.  They were afraid of someone fucking up. 
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #667 on: August 13, 2017, 12:43:35 AM »
I am?
Ben Rothlesburger has been hammered pretty hard for past incidents. He's won SB's.
 

Now you're just going full retard for effect.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #668 on: August 13, 2017, 10:07:07 AM »
 

Now you're just going full retard for effect.

Look, if you don't want to contribute then don't.
There are plenty of examples of players across the league being treated differently than Gronk.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #669 on: August 13, 2017, 10:47:52 AM »
Look, if you don't want to contribute then don't.
There are plenty of examples of players across the league being treated differently than Gronk.

Like the NY Giants receiving corps who were photographed roasting blunts on a yacht during a game week last year?
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #670 on: August 13, 2017, 10:57:30 AM »
Look, if you don't want to contribute then don't.
There are plenty of examples of players across the league being treated differently than Gronk.

Yeah, but Big Ben? I'm pretty sure there's a very specific reason people give him shit.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #671 on: August 13, 2017, 02:20:37 PM »
His job is to snap the football right to the punter and holder.  Basically, do not fuck up and cost us a game.  There is comfort in having someone on your team who will not fuck up.  When he was trying to break into the league, he got some tryouts from some teams because the snapper fucked up.   He originally got cut from Green Bay because they were afraid of having a rookie at snapper, holder, and punter.  They were afraid of someone fucking up.

True all this.  It is a specialist position in the NFL no different than kickers and punters. 

The Cowboys long sanpper, Ladoceur, has been with the team so long I believe he is the last Landry player.  He's steady as a rock.

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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #672 on: August 13, 2017, 03:22:57 PM »
Look, if you don't want to contribute then don't.
There are plenty of examples of players across the league being treated differently than Gronk.
 

When you stop being disingenuous, we can have a discussion. People have given their thoughts on the matter, including myself,  but you seem to still be pondering the matter, which we both know is a sham. Just go ahead at state your opinion on why Gronk gets special treatment. I'll try not to giggle when It's exactly what I thought it would be.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #673 on: August 13, 2017, 04:32:26 PM »
 

When you stop being disingenuous, we can have a discussion. People have given their thoughts on the matter, including myself,  but you seem to still be pondering the matter, which we both know is a sham. Just go ahead at state your opinion on why Gronk gets special treatment. I'll try not to giggle when It's exactly what I thought it would be.

Disingenuous, my ass.
You're the one trying to project some sort of baiting tactic on to another person, here.

I'm not sure why Gronk gets the treatment he does. It's why I've posed the question. He's been a media darling for quite a while. I don't get it.
He's played this dumb, crazy jock role and the media eats it up.
When he's shirtless in a casino bar, running up six-figure tabs and shoving his face in the chest of random women, it's zonky page 2 material.
When Manziel entered the league, and even well before that, his partying was in the headlines as a sign of major problems.
People had Zeke Elliott as guilty of KO'ing some DJ at a club before the sun even came up, pondering his punishment by the league as the latest in some string of major incidents...  when in reality, it turned out he had almost nothing to do with it besides being there. Hell, all he had to do was so much as walk through the door of a legal marijuana dispensary and Al Michaels is bringing up his potential drug issues on Sunday Night Football.

There's a double standard used in regards to how Gronk is treated, plain and simple.
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Re: 2017 NFL Offseason Thread
« Reply #674 on: August 13, 2017, 04:43:18 PM »
Oh yeah, Zeke is the real victim in all this while Gronk is a monster. <giggle> Sorry, couldn't help it.
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