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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2019, 09:04:56 AM »
Is it a Lenox and is it the evaporator coils?

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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2019, 09:23:12 AM »
Ah, I see there was a class action lawsuit regarding the evaporator coil. 

So can a different coil be used as a replacement or are they proprietary?

What is an average price for labor to replace the coil?

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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2019, 11:04:19 AM »
A warranty coil swap out should cost in the 500 to 750 range. That’s labor, shipping, and refrigerant/job materials. Your dealer may do you a solid but we dealers are having to eat a lot of shoddy product the last several years so that’s basically having to roll down hill to the end user.

And you will have to get what the manufacture allows unless you opt to purchase a new coil such as a 3rd party coil.


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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2019, 02:28:21 PM »
Ah, I see there was a class action lawsuit regarding the evaporator coil. 

So can a different coil be used as a replacement or are they proprietary?

What is an average price for labor to replace the coil?

I built my house in 2014. The builder used Lenox. Both units had to have their respective evaporator coils replaced within 3 years of use.

I filed the claim with the lawyer but you have to be on your replacement coils before you can become a party to the suit. Fucking bullshit.

Luckily I got out paying $450 for both coils to be replaced.

Conservatively 20 houses in my section of the neighborhood have had their coils replaced.


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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2019, 03:51:25 PM »
We had a lennox for 15 years with only one capacitor replaced and freon charged once but glad our guy said go with trane when we replaced it a couple years back.

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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2019, 04:50:18 PM »
We had a lennox for 15 years with only one capacitor replaced and freon charged once but glad our guy said go with trane when we replaced it a couple years back.

The shitty part is Lennox knew the coils were shit but they didn’t stop using them.

The labor is what kills you. The coils are $50 parts. Costs nothing to make.  It takes 4 hours to replace two coils and the normal labor charge is $1000. $200/hr in labor is highway robbery. Once I broke it down to Air Team they cut the labor charge in half. Which was still absurd.

I will never own anything Lennox ever again.


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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2019, 06:57:35 PM »
The shitty part is Lennox knew the coils were shit but they didn’t stop using them.

The labor is what kills you. The coils are $50 parts. Costs nothing to make.  It takes 4 hours to replace two coils and the normal labor charge is $1000. $200/hr in labor is highway robbery. Once I broke it down to Air Team they cut the labor charge in half. Which was still absurd.

I will never own anything Lennox ever again.

Not just Lennox or it's retarded cousin Allied Products.

Goodman, YORK, and Rheem all have issues that they've known about for years.

Goodman has done better since they were bought out by Daikin but it's still cheap shit.

The industry has made many attempts to blame it on off-gassing of new homes and there is some truth to that but the plain truth of the matter is the higher efficiency systems require large coils and OEMs are cutting corners (thin wall copper, microchannel, aluminum)...the aluminum coils are holding up better than the thin copper.


When they aren't fucking the dog on coil design someone drops the ball and kills a million TXVs that go out about 2-3 years after install all because Copeland put the wrong shit in the compressor oil. Guess who had to eat that? It took about 2yrs for someone to figure out it wasn't Parkers shitty TXV but Copeland's rust inhibitors.


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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2019, 11:40:59 AM »
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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2019, 06:36:50 PM »
Is it a Lenox and is it the evaporator coils?

Fucking Lennox piece a shit! Just had the same problem on our 2yr old unit. Between the service call, detect the leak, replace refrigerant, and labor to replace the coils, these asshats want $1600.

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Re: HVAC question
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2019, 08:45:27 PM »
Fucking Lennox piece a shit! Just had the same problem on our 2yr old unit. Between the service call, detect the leak, replace refrigerant, and labor to replace the coils, these asshats want $1600.



I got coils in both units replaced for $450.  I politely told the company that originally installed the units that if if they charged me the quoted $2000 I’d make it my  mission to destroy their company through social media. Believe it or not that worked.