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Title: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 15, 2013, 10:14:23 AM
Don't know if there is a thread or not....didn't see one.  If there is, go fuck yourself if you're going to whine about it.

I'm guessing Mack "retires". 
I'm guessing Kiffin is gone and I'm thinking Nebraska may come open too as Pelini has never done much to curry favor with the higher ups there and is generally considered to be a turd. 

That is 3 really, really, good jobs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on September 15, 2013, 10:15:32 AM
Dan Mullen comes to mind.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 15, 2013, 10:18:21 AM
I think Mullen is a damn good coach and I'm not sure how much they improve over him... but yeah...if I'm a MS State booster I'm starting to wonder when the next jump forward comes.  It's been a while now. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on September 15, 2013, 10:18:47 AM
Pinkel should be gone if Mizzou has another bad year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 15, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
I have a hard time envisioning Missouri being able to hire any top shelf coach, no matter how SEC they now think they are.  They're going to be doing like KY always has - first time so-so coordinators like Stoops or burnouts like Brooks.  The only hope they have to get some guy with a burning hard on for revenge like Petrino.

I've always maintained that they really ought to think about hiring Nutt for a two or three year period to build up excitement and get them at least accustomed to what physical SEC play is supposed to be. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on September 15, 2013, 10:26:36 AM
Pinkel should be gone if Mizzou has another bad year.

Pinkel is gone unless they have a miracle season.  I agree it's shitty job, but they just don't like him anymore.  They are in much of the same situation we were with Nutt.

I don't think Petrino can land a top tier job, but I'll be worried about Miss St and Missouri hiring him.  They will get told "no" a lot, and Petrino is a winner.  Maybe Slive has put some sort of hiring ban on him.  Auburn fans sure wanted him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on September 15, 2013, 10:27:14 AM
I have a hard time envisioning Missouri being able to hire any top shelf coach, no matter how SEC they now think they are.  They're going to be doing like KY always has - first time so-so coordinators like Stoops or burnouts like Brooks.  The only hope they have to get some guy with a burning hard on for revenge like Petrino.

I've always maintained that they really ought to think about hiring Nutt for a two or three year period to build up excitement and get them at least accustomed to what physical SEC play is supposed to be.
Please make this happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on September 15, 2013, 10:33:15 AM


Old & busted:

Gary Patterson
Chris Peterson
Charlie Strong


New hotness:

Al Golden
Bronco Mendenhall
Charlie Strong
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on September 15, 2013, 10:41:20 AM
I think Mullen is a damn good coach and I'm not sure how much they improve over him... but yeah...if I'm a MS State booster I'm starting to wonder when the next jump forward comes.  It's been a while now.

Mullen is good at putting together a program, and has a decent offensive system, but he's almost as bad as You Know Who at play calling and game management. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: FayettenamHog on September 15, 2013, 11:07:38 AM
Mack is definitely toast. He's been on thin ice for a few years and surely can't survive another one. I scanned ShaggyBevo and see they're throwing around the usual names: Strong, Briles, Patterson, Mendenhall. I don't think they'll go after Petrino. He's still too nuclear for them.

Kiffin can still save himself. They don't play Oregon this year so they're only really tough games are Stanford, ND and UCLA. They could go 8-4 and I doubt they would make a change.

There always seems to be some turnover in the SEC. Mullen and Pinkle seems to be the most likely candidates to get fired. Vandy could open if Franklin could get a better job. It's a long shot but Richt could be gone if they somehow melted down. Everyone else seems safe barring a collapse or someone finding an upgrade in jobs.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on September 15, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
Pinkel is gone unless they have a miracle season.  I agree it's shitty job, but they just don't like him anymore.  They are in much of the same situation we were with Nutt.

I don't think Petrino can land a top tier job, but I'll be worried about Miss St and Missouri hiring him.  They will get told "no" a lot, and Petrino is a winner.  Maybe Slive has put some sort of hiring ban on him.  Dead Trees fans sure wanted him.

Since Petrino broke no NCAA or SEC conference rules that I'm aware of I think Slive would have a very difficult time doing that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 15, 2013, 11:38:32 AM
Hot seat

Texas
Mizzou
Nebraska


Warming up

Mississippi State
Florida
USC
Kansas


On deck

Kansas State (how long is that old fart going to be alive)
Iowa



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on September 15, 2013, 11:48:44 AM
I have a hard time envisioning Missouri being able to hire any top shelf coach, no matter how SEC they now think they are.  They're going to be doing like KY always has - first time so-so coordinators like Stoops or burnouts like Brooks.  The only hope they have to get some guy with a burning hard on for revenge like Petrino.

I've always maintained that they really ought to think about hiring Nutt for a two or three year period to build up excitement and get them at least accustomed to what physical SEC play is supposed to be.
 

Ain't no decent program hiring Nutt at this point because he's been ran off twice now. He'll have to go to the Sun Belt or lower if he wants another job. MU needs someone who can recruit like Strong but the will have to settle for something else. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 15, 2013, 12:03:57 PM
I could see MIZZOU going for an SEC transitional staff if they show they can't win with the faggotry Big 12 offense they currently run.

Gene Chizik is hanging around. I think he might be right up their alley and lets face it, we miss our Chiz rag these days. Hire Chiz and give him some other experienced SEC assistants...get the band back together. This might happen way before they consider someone like Nutt or Petrino. Chizik coached in the Big 12 so he knows the ground...it's a natural option (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school).

Mullen would have to totally shit the bed in order to lose his job this year...I think State is willing to wait on him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on September 15, 2013, 12:06:22 PM
 

Ain't no decent program hiring Nutt at this point because he's been ran off twice now. He'll have to go to the Sun Belt or lower if he wants another job. MU needs someone who can recruit like Strong but the will have to settle for something else.

MU facilities need a lot of work, but Missouri has a decent talent base in-state if they could actually keep them.  Look at the top 10 recruits in Missouri this year and see how many are committed to MU?  Not many.  Hell, they were beating their chests over getting DBG or whatever like it was a huge accomplishment, when it was an in-state kid.  It should have been news if they DIDN'T get him.  If they could get someone to just keep the in-state in and then snag a few from surrounding, they could be decent.  They do need to do something about that stadium, but I think it is in the plans.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 15, 2013, 12:08:44 PM
I was always of the understanding that Mizzou has high academic standards kinda like Vandy...is this true?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on September 15, 2013, 12:19:43 PM
I was always of the understanding that Mizzou has high academic standards kinda like Vandy...is this true?
 

MU is a decent state school but they are no way close to a Vandy or Rice. Washington University in St Louis is the best school in that state.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on September 15, 2013, 12:20:49 PM
I was always of the understanding that Mizzou has high academic standards kinda like Vandy...is this true?

If academics is what they are hanging their hats on for the reason they are shitty, they need to find something else.

Vandy is #17
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/vanderbilt-university-3535

Florida is #49
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-florida-1535

Georgia is #60
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-georgia-1598

TAMU is #69
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/texas-am-university-college-station-10366

Alabama is #86
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-alabama-1051

Auburn is #91
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/auburn-university-1009

Missouri is #97
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-missouri-2516

Arkansas is #128
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-arkansas-1108

Edit:  Beaten by Pumpkin like Missouri is beaten in academics
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on September 15, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
I was always of the understanding that Mizzou has high academic standards kinda like Vandy...is this true?

No.  Not even close.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 15, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
No.  Not even close.

Ok, so basically they always suck because they are Mizzou. Who knew?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on September 15, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
Missouri's standing both academically and athletically is overstated by sports journalists, primarily because most of them went to school there.

The right coach could use that fact to his advantage.  You know those guys are just looking for an excuse to offer literary blowjobs to their alma mater.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on September 15, 2013, 12:56:22 PM
I was always of the understanding that Mizzou has high academic standards kinda like Vandy...is this true?

No.  Good enough school, but just a standard state school.  Pumpkin and others got it right, the best school in Missouri is Wash U.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on September 15, 2013, 12:58:28 PM
In the SEC, it is

Vandy
























Bunch of 50-120 pretty good quality schools.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on September 15, 2013, 01:35:58 PM
Missouri is a really shitty job.  They have to compete against pro-teams for interest, they have border rivals that poach recruits, and it's not warm enough to be considered Southern.  Their facilities are low-rent and their fans are a bunch of fa66orts who'd rather play the meatwhistle than actually root for Mizzou.

On the surface it looks like a school that has a lot in common with places like Arkansas or Nebraska, but history shows otherwise.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on September 15, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
Mizzou had a great journalism school, but who the fuck cares now that true journalism is dead and the national enquirer has higher j-ethics than most "legit" news organs.

Otherwise, as a state they really have little reason to even have a college.  Other than Branson, Bass Pro Shop, and a steamboat ride in Hannibal there is no industry.  St Louis has a brewery to ease the pain of watching the place turn into East St Louis.  There is nothing else.

Missoura is a product of its heritage of fence sitting.  A slave state that wouldn't commit, a union state that Yankees never trusted.  Midwesterners see it as southern, southerners see it as Midwest.  Combine with that Show Me thing that just says I'm a douchebag.  They can go fuck themselves. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 15, 2013, 04:35:19 PM

Warming up

Mississippi State
Florida
USC
Kansas



Florida? I can't envision that.  I think Boom is there for a while. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogggdadi on September 15, 2013, 04:40:46 PM
jerry kill has got to be feeling the jiggles of his seat starting to warm up.  of course he could be having his 5th seizure on the sidelines. 

better put Minnesota on that list
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 15, 2013, 06:35:27 PM
Is Minnesotta a better job than Missouri?  I'm guessing no.... but I'd guess both of those jobs are going to compete with TCU or whoever else has an opening once the dominoes start falling as people leave for Texas and USC type jobs. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on September 15, 2013, 06:46:01 PM
Is Minnesotta a better job than Missouri?  I'm guessing no.... but I'd guess both of those jobs are going to compete with TCU or whoever else has an opening once the dominoes start falling as people leave for Texas and USC type jobs.

the two Ms are bitch jobs, as in you are gonna be the conference's bitch.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: FayettenamHog on September 15, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Mizzou had a great journalism school, but who the fuck cares now that true journalism is dead and the national enquirer has higher j-ethics than most "legit" news organs.

Otherwise, as a state they really have little reason to even have a college.  Other than Branson, Bass Pro Shop, and a steamboat ride in Hannibal there is no industry.  St Louis has a brewery to ease the pain of watching the place turn into East St Louis.  There is nothing else.

Missoura is a product of its heritage of fence sitting.  A slave state that wouldn't commit, a union state that Yankees never trusted.  Midwesterners see it as southern, southerners see it as Midwest.  Combine with that Show Me thing that just says I'm a douchebag.  They can go fuck themselves.

(http://cdn.chud.com/a/a5/900x900px-LL-a514bf4b_clapping.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on September 15, 2013, 07:34:10 PM
Mizzou had a great journalism school, but who the fuck cares now that true journalism is dead and the national enquirer has higher j-ethics than most "legit" news organs.

Otherwise, as a state they really have little reason to even have a college.  Other than Branson, Bass Pro Shop, and a steamboat ride in Hannibal there is no industry.  St Louis has a brewery to ease the pain of watching the place turn into East St Louis.  There is nothing else.

Missoura is a product of its heritage of fence sitting.  A slave state that wouldn't commit, a union state that Yankees never trusted.  Midwesterners see it as southern, southerners see it as Midwest.  Combine with that Show Me thing that just says I'm a douchebag.  They can go fuck themselves.

The best thing Missouri ever did was have BB63 named after it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on September 15, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
The best thing Missouri ever did was have BB63 named after it.

And even then we changed her name. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on September 15, 2013, 07:52:03 PM
that Show Me thing that just says I'm a douchebag.

Nowjustaminutemister.  You fucking put Texas in your name.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on September 15, 2013, 09:51:32 PM
In my world texasss pushes Mack to the side and welcomes .....with open arms ladies and gentlemen, the MAN who coached greatness into Barry Sanders...

Mr. Rootin Tootin Hootin Nutt hisself.

You heard it hear first.
Of course, im also batshit crazy, so there's that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on September 16, 2013, 12:17:25 AM
In my world texasss pushes Mack to the side and welcomes .....with open arms ladies and gentlemen, the MAN who coached greatness into Barry Sanders...

Mr. Rootin Tootin Hootin Nutt hisself.

You heard it hear first.
Of course, im also batshit crazy, so there's that.

Wishful thinking, but not a chance.  Remember the whole horns down disrespect thing?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jeff Spongeworthy on September 16, 2013, 01:05:00 AM
jerry kill has got to be feeling the jiggles of his seat starting to warm up.  of course he could be having his 5th seizure on the sidelines. 

better put Minnesota on that list

Minnesota is 3-0.  It's only his third year.  I don't think he's on the hot seat until he loses one he shouldn't this year.  They've looked decent in their first three games, albeit against shitty programs (but one of whom we lost a bowl game to awhile back).
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on September 16, 2013, 07:14:40 AM
They've looked decent in their first three games, albeit against shitty programs (but one of whom we lost a bowl game to awhile back).

We also lost a bowl game to Minnesota.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on September 16, 2013, 07:42:34 AM
We also lost a bowl game to Minnesota.

Ugh. Don't remind me. I was there. Still one of the single most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed from a Hog team. Vintage Hootie ball.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pig on September 16, 2013, 07:57:38 AM
Mizzou had a great journalism school, but who the fuck cares now that true journalism is dead and the national enquirer has higher j-ethics than most "legit" news organs.

Otherwise, as a state they really have little reason to even have a college.  Other than Branson, Bass Pro Shop, and a steamboat ride in Hannibal there is no industry.  St Louis has a brewery to ease the pain of watching the place turn into East St Louis.  There is nothing else.

Missoura is a product of its heritage of fence sitting.  A slave state that wouldn't commit, a union state that Yankees never trusted.  Midwesterners see it as southern, southerners see it as Midwest.  Combine with that Show Me thing that just says I'm a douchebag.  They can go fuck themselves.

Thought this was an excellent summary, and read it to wifey, a proud daughter of Missouri.
Her take: Texzilla had obviously tried to date a Missouri girl, who said "show me", and when he did,
she just laughed at him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on September 16, 2013, 08:10:20 AM
I love Missouri.  Like my second home.  Not sure why so many people are ragging on it.

They will have a tough time in the SEC, simply b/c their football history is pretty weak.  Until Pinkel got there, they had been to 4 bowl games in the entire 20 previous years.  Now, they've been to one at least 7-8 times in the 13 years he's been there.  They don't need to fire him - they need to build a statue of him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Red Death on September 16, 2013, 08:33:26 AM
I love Missouri.  Like my second home.  Not sure why so many people are ragging on it.

They will have a tough time in the SEC, simply b/c their football history is pretty weak.  Until Pinkel got there, they had been to 4 bowl games in the entire 20 previous years.  Now, they've been to one at least 7-8 times in the 13 years he's been there.  They don't need to fire him - they need to build a statue of him.

This is exactly what they said about Nutt.  Fuck that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on September 16, 2013, 08:42:45 AM
Ugh. Don't remind me. I was there. Still one of the single most embarrassing performances I've ever witnessed from a Hog team. Vintage Hootie ball.
What? You didn't like that fine display of toughness exhibited by Carlos Ousley?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Boondoggle on September 16, 2013, 08:58:10 AM
What? You didn't like that fine display of toughness exhibited by Carlos Ousley?


All the playas and the Murray State Posse had a good time touring Dollywood...what more can you ask for?  :o

Of course, nothing can compare to living it up at Circus Circus all night before the Vegas Bowl!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :sick:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: jack_beene on September 17, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
Looks like Bo Pelini just shot himself in the foot. What a dick.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hognarok on September 17, 2013, 01:04:28 PM
Looks like Bo Pelini just shot himself in the foot. What a dick.

He apparently pulled the trigger two years ago.  It just took the bullet a long time to get to his foot.  Somebody with a vendetta was waiting for the right time to let the public hear this.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on September 17, 2013, 01:05:18 PM
He apparently pulled the trigger two years ago.  It just took the bullet a long time to get to his foot.  Somebody with a vendetta was waiting for the right time to let the public hear this.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on September 17, 2013, 01:46:19 PM
I love Missouri.  Like my second home.  Not sure why so many people are ragging on it.

They will have a tough time in the SEC, simply b/c their football history is pretty weak.  Until Pinkel got there, they had been to 4 bowl games in the entire 20 previous years.  Now, they've been to one at least 7-8 times in the 13 years he's been there.  They don't need to fire him - they need to build a statue of him.

That explains quite a bit about you.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: UAClassof81 on September 18, 2013, 08:00:32 AM
He apparently pulled the trigger two years ago.  It just took the bullet a long time to get to his foot.  Somebody with a vendetta was waiting for the right time to let the public hear this.

There's some sort of statute of limitations for coaches. Just ask Rick Pitino. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on September 18, 2013, 08:10:01 AM
This is exactly what they said about Nutt.  frick that.

What are you talking about? Sounds like you're saying YOU want Missouri to fire Pinkel so they don't put up with mediocrity.  You a Mizzou fan?


And Missouri's elaborate football history rivals Arkansas' in almost no way.  So, no, they're not the same.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Red Death on September 18, 2013, 08:49:32 AM
What are you talking about? Sounds like you're saying YOU want Missouri to fire Pinkel so they don't put up with mediocrity.  You a Mizzou fan?


And Missouri's elaborate football history rivals Arkansas' in almost no way.  So, no, they're not the same.

I don't give a shit what Missouri does. 

My point is there were fans saying the same things about NUTT (not the university of Arkansas football history) here, considering we couldn't beat SMU and he took us to 8 bowl games in his 10 years at Arkansas.  That's not a good reason to keep a coach around, just because he can get to a shitty bowl most years.  I didn't think that was too hard to understand.

I never said Missouri's football history equaled ours, unless of course you count sucking when they both entered the SEC.  Actually we sucked a lot worse upon our entrance.  And let's not act like our last 30 years of football have been all that great.  We've sucked pretty much all my adult life that I can remember save about 3 teams.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on September 18, 2013, 10:55:46 AM
I don't give a shit what Missouri does. 

My point is there were fans saying the same things about NUTT (not the university of Arkansas football history) here, considering we couldn't beat SMU and he took us to 8 bowl games in his 10 years at Arkansas.  That's not a good reason to keep a coach around, just because he can get to a shitty bowl most years.  I didn't think that was too hard to understand.

I never said Missouri's football history equaled ours, unless of course you count sucking when they both entered the SEC.  Actually we sucked a lot worse upon our entrance.  And let's not act like our last 30 years of football have been all that great.  We've sucked pretty much all my adult life that I can remember save about 3 teams.

I'm a bleeds-red Razorbacks fan who has lived in Missouri for 20 years, and the difference is, whoever said "he's as good as you can get, be thankful" about Nutt/Arkansas was a fucking idiot who would be best served to STFU and GDIAF, while anyone who is saying it about Pinkel/Missouri is right on the money.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 18, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
I'm a bleeds-red Razorbacks fan who has lived in Missouri for 20 years, and the difference is, whoever said "he's as good as you can get, be thankful" about Nutt/Arkansas was a fricking idiot who would be best served to STFU and GDIAF, while anyone who is saying it about Pinkel/Missouri is right on the money.

 :thumbup:

Also, if it wasn't for MO we would have never had Agent Orange. (Thanks Monsanto)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 18, 2013, 06:02:48 PM
I'm a bleeds-red Razorbacks fan who has lived in Missouri for 20 years, and the difference is, whoever said "he's as good as you can get, be thankful" about Nutt/Arkansas was a fricking idiot who would be best served to STFU and GDIAF, while anyone who is saying it about Pinkel/Missouri is right on the money.

I agree Pinkle may be their best option but on the same token the guy has been there a long time...may just be that he has taken them as far as he can. He probably needs a few seasons in the SEC to show he can or can't at least get them to where they were in the Big 12.

I could see them winning seven games this season plus maybe a bowl game...that isn't horrible for them for sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on September 18, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
Think about this.  Two bowl games in a 15 yr span, then pinkel has them at #1 within 6 years.  That's not nuttlike in any way.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on September 18, 2013, 07:14:26 PM
It's a bit Nuttlike. We had been to 2 bowls in 8 years. Nutt had us ranked in top 8 in 3 different seasons in 10 years (including his 1st)  in a much tougher conference. Neither coach has won a conference title or went to a BCS game.

Hold up...WTF am I doing defending Nutt?

Nevermind, forget what I said.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Zoso on September 18, 2013, 08:03:04 PM


Hold up...WTF am I doing defending Nutt?


This is how woopig ends.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on September 18, 2013, 09:10:54 PM
:thumbup:

Also, if it wasn't for MO we would have never had Agent Orange. (Thanks Monsanto)

I loved him in that one movie.  that was ossum.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor-Trac on September 19, 2013, 02:46:58 AM
:thumbup:

Also, if it wasn't for MO we would have never had Agent Orange. (Thanks Monsanto)

Agri-phace.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: dylanfreake on September 19, 2013, 04:04:20 AM
The Petrino will probably be back in the SEC or at Texass next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on September 19, 2013, 12:00:02 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 19, 2013, 01:03:15 PM
Agri-phace.

+1  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: CharlieHog on September 19, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
If you're in the SEC your goal should be to win the National Championship. Not every team has an equally good chance at it, but that should be what everybody is striving for. If your coach doesn't have a hope in hell of ever getting you there, why not at least try out a hot assistant or something? What's the real difference between 6-7 wins and a Music City Bowl and 2-3 wins and sitting at home? Not much.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 19, 2013, 02:10:31 PM
If you're in the SEC your goal should be to win the National Championship. Not every team has an equally good chance at it, but that should be what everybody is striving for. If your coach doesn't have a hope in Starkville of ever getting you there, why not at least try out a hot assistant or something? What's the real difference between 6-7 wins and a Music City Bowl and 2-3 wins and sitting at home? Not much.

Right now I'd say there is a big damn difference. Nobody wants to be bogged down in mediocrity every season but on the same token you aren't going to win national championships by winning 2, 4, 3, 7 wins here and there...in general you've got to be knocking on the door for several years for most programs. I think for Arkansas and Missouri among others in the SEC we've got to prove sustainability more so than Brand X that gets instant credibility...remember their is a hike up the ranking mountain. By that I mean we would have to average 10 or 11 wins a season probably for a 5 year period to really break-through in recruiting and development that pushes us over the top. The other way would be to have that once every 20 years type of freak athlete and in our case every time we've had that type of talent we've pissed it away somehow.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: CharlieHog on September 19, 2013, 02:36:17 PM
Right now I'd say there is a big damn difference. Nobody wants to be bogged down in mediocrity every season but on the same token you aren't going to win national championships by winning 2, 4, 3, 7 wins here and there...in general you've got to be knocking on the door for several years for most programs. I think for Arkansas and Missouri among others in the SEC we've got to prove sustainability more so than Brand X that gets instant credibility...remember their is a hike up the ranking mountain. By that I mean we would have to average 10 or 11 wins a season probably for a 5 year period to really break-through in recruiting and development that pushes us over the top. The other way would be to have that once every 20 years type of freak athlete and in our case every time we've had that type of talent we've pissed it away somehow.


Good point.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on September 19, 2013, 02:59:51 PM
...in general you've got to be knocking on the door for several years for most programs.

To make par, you need to be putting for birdie. Occasionally you make that birdie. Just keep yourself in position.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on September 19, 2013, 03:02:39 PM
To make par, you need to be putting for birdie. Occasionally you make that birdie. Just keep yourself in position.

This is no place or conversation for baseball analogies.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on September 19, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
This is no place or conversation for baseball analogies.

Animal started it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on September 19, 2013, 10:12:45 PM
Animal started it.

i had to re-read that post, i thought you were telling Charlie to" Just keep yourself in position"... and i was all :maundoed:

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: KCHOGS on September 29, 2013, 07:14:48 AM
Lane Kiffin fired
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on September 29, 2013, 07:21:35 AM
Lane Kiffin fired

At 4:00 am on a Sunday morning. That's a GTFO move if there ever was one.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: KSHogg on September 29, 2013, 07:26:03 AM


I guess his deddy wasn't the problem after all.

That gives Texass the go ahead now!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on September 29, 2013, 08:52:26 AM
At 4:00 am on a Sunday morning. That's a GTFO move if there ever was one.
This is how Karma really works, folks.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on September 29, 2013, 09:31:09 AM
At 4:00 am on a Sunday morning. That's a GTFO move if there ever was one.


I saw the score of their game early this morning when my wife left for work, before he had been fired, and I wondered if he was going to make it through the season. 

Obviously not. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: BASS on September 29, 2013, 09:41:19 AM
if gruden wears a maroon tie tomorrow night, that means he is going to be the next usc-w coach.  if not, it means he is holding out and waiting for tejas to can mack brown.  if he is wearing a burnt orange tie, it means he's already been told brown is out at the end of the year and a deal is in place.  duckman's wife's tits said so.

keep this here
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on September 29, 2013, 10:34:53 AM
RT @edsbs:{picture below} RT @InsideUSC: I already got a phone call from a coach interested in #USC job. Nobody waits in these things

(http://media.arkansasonline.com/img/photos/2007/04/17/1a_nutt__t300.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on September 29, 2013, 10:39:14 AM
Reggie Bush said USC was in need of some peple heppin'.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: KSHogg on September 29, 2013, 10:45:03 AM

Ed Orgeron named interim HC. Footbaw!

Per BR.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on September 29, 2013, 12:01:38 PM
This shit's funny. ESPN says he got shitcanned on the plane ride home. Yahoo sports just sent a push to me that he was fired in a parking lot after the loss. Either way, the end's the same.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on September 29, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
Lane Kiffin fired

Ha, so much for that vote of confidence Pat Haden gave him a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on September 29, 2013, 12:07:05 PM
RT @edsbs:{picture below} RT @InsideUSC: I already got a phone call from a coach interested in #USC job. Nobody waits in these things

(http://media.arkansasonline.com/img/photos/2007/04/17/1a_nutt__t300.jpg)

Excellent
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 29, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
Im honestly shocked he got fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 29, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
I'm glad that we went coach shopping last year when our major competition was a really down TN program and Auburn. 

If you're shopping for a coach this year, you're likely going to compete with USC, Tejas and I'm going to guess A&M as well once Sumlin heads to the NFL. 

USC - I'm going to bet that the Washington AD has made it impossible for Sarkisian to go to USC with a non compete.  I think it's a poor fit for Petrino - he's not going to be the only offensive genius in the Pac 12 and his only chance to win the boosters and fan base is to win so much, so quickly, like Saban did, that the fanbase and boosters just shut up and accept the winning. 

I'd guess Del Rio will be courted but I'm not sure he wouldn't stay as Broncos DC or angle for another NFL head job.  I don't see Fisher as the type of guy who could justify "quitting" on the Rams to go to his alma mater - he just strikes me as a guy who would be really stuck on being loyal to his players and coaches. 

There are some guys out there, like the guy at Penn State, that are going to get MAJOR raises out of this before it's all said and done. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: WPFM on September 29, 2013, 12:22:07 PM
I'm sure Mrs. Petrino would have no problems with Bobby taking the USC job.

(Insert obligatory picture of gratuitous hot USC cheerleaders here. Please.)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TRAVELHOG on September 29, 2013, 12:27:45 PM
At 4:00 am on a Sunday morning. That's a GTFO move if there ever was one.

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on September 29, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
I'm sure Mrs. Petrino would have no problems with Bobby taking the USC job.

(Insert obligatory picture of gratuitous hot USC cheerleaders here. Please.)

Gladly.

(http://www.insomniacslounge.com/uploaded_images/dirtyoldmanpic-766726.jpg)

(http://g35driver.com/forums/attachments/lounge-off-topic/60602d1167806051-nice-usc-cheerleader-possibly-nws-4h8qvwj.jpg)

(http://www.myfavoritecheerleader.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2358.0;attach=39508;image)

(http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/2939339850_49c5fbe7f3_b1.jpg)

(http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/008128001112009_ucla_at_usc.jpg)

And one for Bobby:

(http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/usc/graphics/2012-sandvolley-540.jpg)

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/57/17/0e/57170e7c2460057bcaed11eb8fcbbf28.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 29, 2013, 01:27:34 PM
I love that they fired Kiffin and inserted a coach that has even less of a clue as the interim. I think this was more of a case where Haden and much of the money hated Kiffin and were going to get out in front of this by using the shit season as an excuse. In reality I'm guessing their sanctions are nearing the end, it's still a good gig...they won't have trouble finding a top notch guy.

Del Rio strikes everyone as a pro only coach...I still think he's a name they will look at. Jeff Fisher isn't making huge waves for the Rams and this will likely be his last chance at the USC gig. I could see him taking it and finishing his coaching career strong. I guess much would depend on how much of a dream job he really sees it as. Then we have this cat at Washington whom many believed was on Long's radar...Sark is just now starting to get things rolling at Washington. I guess I just don't see USC throwing a ton of money at him. I'm betting he would be slow played while bigger names get talked about...might even get himself a raise to stay in Washington. Is there a current head coach from the John McKay tree? Haden strikes me as the type that might try to go back to his roots more so than make the flashy hire. I guess Fisher and Del Rio may both fit that bill.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Red Death on September 29, 2013, 01:33:33 PM
RT @edsbs:{picture below} RT @InsideUSC: I already got a phone call from a coach interested in #USC job. Nobody waits in these things

(http://media.arkansasonline.com/img/photos/2007/04/17/1a_nutt__t300.jpg)
This is the only way he'll finally stop them from scoring.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on September 29, 2013, 02:19:38 PM
He got pulled off the team bus at the airport by Haden and the bus took off and left him, he didn't even get a chance to get his luggage off the bus.  :maundoed:

http://deadspin.com/lane-kiffin-was-fired-in-the-most-cold-blooded-way-1421405896
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on September 29, 2013, 02:50:46 PM
He got pulled off the team bus at the airport by Haden and the bus took off and left him, he didn't even get a chance to get his luggage off the bus.  :maundoed:

http://deadspin.com/lane-kiffin-was-fired-in-the-most-cold-blooded-way-1421405896

Too bad JFB and the board never had the balls to do this.  This should have been done to Hootie after the Vegas Bowl.  Or about twenty other games.

Somewhere, Phil Fulmer wept.  Not that I care.  Preston Watts can choke on a bag of horsecocks.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on September 29, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
To make par, you need to be putting for birdie. Occasionally you make that birdie. Just keep yourself in position.
Apparently you must be a shitty chipper and putter.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Boondoggle on September 29, 2013, 03:03:08 PM
Too bad JFB and the board never had the balls to do this.  This should have been done to Hootie after the Vegas Bowl.  Or about twenty other games.

Somewhere, Phil Fulmer wept.  Not that I care.  Preston Watts can choke on a bag of horsecocks.


Kiffin gets kicked to the curb (literally) 1/3 of the way through the season after a couple of bad years at USC.

We give Hootie a $3.5 million send off after 10 years of bullshit (the last year actively sabotaging the football program) with a job in the works at Ole Miss -- within our own division!!!

Then we sack BMFP (arguably one of the best minds in the game) for a trivial offense and hand the reigns over to a senile duffer on the verge of a $42 million bankruptcy.

Something is terribly wrong with this picture. :bird:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Red Death on September 29, 2013, 03:13:10 PM

Kiffin gets kicked to the curb (literally) 1/3 of the way through the season after a couple of bad years at USC.

We give Hootie a $3.5 million send off after 10 years of bullshit (the last year actively sabotaging the football program) with a job in the works at Ole Miss -- within our own division!!!

Then we sack BMFP (arguably one of the best minds in the game) for a trivial offense and hand the reigns over to a senile duffer on the verge of a $42 million bankruptcy.

Something is terribly wrong with this picture. :bird:


You're forgetting that Hoot did a great job mowing GTMF's lawns.  And turned down the Bear for Paw Paw.  And his diddy coached the Fighting Deaf's.

Petrino literally did none of these things.

Pretty cut and dry.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on September 29, 2013, 03:24:10 PM

Kiffin gets kicked to the curb (literally) 1/3 of the way through the season after a couple of bad years at USC.

We give Hootie a $3.5 million send off after 10 years of bullshit (the last year actively sabotaging the football program) with a job in the works at Ole Miss -- within our own division!!!

Then we sack BMFP (arguably one of the best minds in the game) for a trivial offense and hand the reigns over to a senile duffer on the verge of a $42 million bankruptcy.

Something is terribly wrong with this picture. :bird:

Look at it this way.  Nobody except you gives a fuck. 

We've got a new coach, and the future is ahead of us.  Quit living in the past.  You'll live longer.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TRAVELHOG on September 29, 2013, 03:28:23 PM
He got pulled off the team bus at the airport by Haden and the bus took off and left him, he didn't even get a chance to get his luggage off the bus.  :maundoed:

http://deadspin.com/lane-kiffin-was-fired-in-the-most-cold-blooded-way-1421405896

#karma
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on September 29, 2013, 03:42:28 PM
#karma

#1-0
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hobo on September 29, 2013, 03:45:24 PM
#karma
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: UAClassof81 on September 29, 2013, 03:50:34 PM
At 4:00 am on a Sunday morning. That's a GTFO move if there ever was one.

"Boy, I tell ya, that USC fires you so fast, it just messes you up!"  - Lane Kiffin
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on September 29, 2013, 04:07:35 PM
Somewhere, Mr. Zorak smiles.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on September 29, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
I still dont know why he was hired
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on September 29, 2013, 04:34:08 PM
He got pulled off the team bus at the airport by Haden and the bus took off and left him, he didn't even get a chance to get his luggage off the bus.  :maundoed:

http://deadspin.com/lane-kiffin-was-fired-in-the-most-cold-blooded-way-1421405896

That is so awesomely cold-blooded.

I would feel bad if I liked Kiffen, but he's a dick.  I hope he has a huge buyout, though.  USC and Texas fighting over a head coach should be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Boondoggle on September 29, 2013, 04:41:52 PM
You're forgetting that Hoot did a great job mowing GTMF's lawns.  And turned down the Bear for Paw Paw.  And his diddy coached the Fighting Deaf's.

Petrino literally did none of these things.

Pretty cut and dry.


Well, of course you're right. All Petrino did was give $250,000 of his salary back to the Razorback Foundation as a contribution his first year, then another $250,000 to Arkansas Children's Hospital. And bring Razorback football back to national prominence.

Other than that, he didn't do jack shit for the powers that be. Plus, he wasn't "from here" which is two strikes against him.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Boondoggle on September 29, 2013, 04:52:03 PM
Look at it this way.  Nobody except you gives a frick. 

We've got a new coach, and the future is ahead of us.  Quit living in the past.  You'll live longer.

Those who forget the past, as they say, are condemned to repeat it.

The truth is, there's still endemic brain rot with the powers that be on the Hill. And now I see they're being called to account for several million dollar that's come up missing? Cooking books and destroying records? What Fine Christian Men (and Women) they are!

I know many of you are busy sucking each others dicks over this moral victory against ATM. The truth is, they choked twice in a row.

Scoreboard, Muslim, SCOREBOARD!!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 29, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
That is so awesomely cold-blooded.

I would feel bad if I liked Kiffen, but he's a dick.  I hope he has a huge buyout, though.  USC and Texas fighting over a head coach should be interesting to watch.

Ya, it is. Especially for a guy who's BIL had to find out that Kiffen left Tenn for USC via ESPN. His own fucking BIL.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on September 29, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
Ya, it is. Especially for a guy who's BIL had to find out that Kiffen left Tenn for USC via ESPN. His own fricking BIL.

I was just wondering if Mrs. Kiffin might be feeling vulnerable and that info helped my fantasy.  :stache:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on September 29, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
Those who forget the past, as they say, are condemned to repeat it.

And then there are fuckwits like you who live in history to the exclusion of anything else.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on September 29, 2013, 06:35:44 PM
I was just wondering if Mrs. Kiffin might be feeling vulnerable and that info helped my fantasy.  :stache:

From what I read he didn't even get to take her off the bus.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on September 29, 2013, 06:46:18 PM
From what I read he didn't even get to take her off the bus.

He keeps his beard in his luggage?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on September 29, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Those who forget the past, as they say, are condemned to repeat it

So what are you saying?  I know I haven't thought about getting on a motorbike since BMFP wrecked his.  I haven't misappropriated funds to hire a mistress, and if I did I know not to lie to my boss.  All because I remember Petrino's history. 

Based on Bielema's marital situation I doubt he has to think about that history, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on September 29, 2013, 07:26:17 PM
He keeps his beard in his luggage?
[/quote

In the closet. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on September 29, 2013, 07:42:07 PM
Those who forget the past, as they say, are condemned to repeat it.



Scoreboard, Muslim, SCOREBOARD!!!!


there is an unmistakeable difference between forgetting the past, and living in it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: mr.zorak on September 29, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
Somewhere, Mr. Zorak smiles.

Very true.

Well, it WAS his dream job...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on September 29, 2013, 09:51:51 PM
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@BFeldmanCBS: Hmm.. U. of Houston tennis coach saying Broncos DC in LA tonite RT @coachPSully Just spotted Jack Del Rio in LAX #USC
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on September 29, 2013, 10:02:08 PM
Those who forget the past, as they say, are condemned to repeat it.

Indeed.

Quote
The truth is, there's still endemic brain rot with the powers that be on the Hill. And now I see they're being called to account for several million dollar that's come up missing? Cooking books and destroying records? What Fine Christian Men (and Women) they are!

I'll be happy when the new regime cleans all of this shit up.  Won't you?

Quote
I know many of you are busy sucking each others dicks over this moral victory against ATM. The truth is, they choked twice in a row.

Scoreboard, Muslim, SCOREBOARD!!!!

I've posted not once about moral victories in, well, ever.  I don't believe in them.  We got our asses kicked again this week.

What are you going on about?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on September 30, 2013, 08:05:46 AM
That is so awesomely cold-blooded.

I would feel bad if I liked Kiffen, but he's a dick.  I hope he has a huge buyout, though.  USC and Texas fighting over a head coach should be interesting to watch.
USC can't compete with Texa$ in that department.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on September 30, 2013, 09:58:05 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/aac/2013/09/30/uconn-football-coach-paul-pasqualoni-fired/2895197/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hognarok on September 30, 2013, 10:39:39 AM
There are about 5 different threads I could have put this in.  I even thought about starting a new thread for it, but I think it will work fine here.

Do you remember back in 2008 when Arkansas had finally rid itself of Nutt and there were a number of "hot" coaches that the Hogs were considering hiring?  One of those coaches you might recall was Jim Grobe who turned down an offer.  Since turning down that offer Grobe has gone 21-33.  On Saturday his Demon Deacons got blown out 56-7 by Clemson.  If Grobe's seat wasn't already hot it most certainly will be if his team continues at their current pace.

Talk about dodging a bullet.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on September 30, 2013, 10:50:08 AM
Aggies at work are worried about Sumlin going to USC.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 30, 2013, 10:52:39 AM
Aggies at work are worried about Sumlin going to USC.

On the surface, that looks like it could be a fit. If he mixed west coast and Texas recruiting together....watch out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on September 30, 2013, 10:58:49 AM
On the surface, that looks like it could be a fit. If he mixed west coast and Texas recruiting together....watch out.

Plus, he could probably get by for a couple more years without having to play a QB he recruited for himself.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on September 30, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
The Petrino will probably be back in the SEC or at Texass next year.
I know this is from 11 days ago, but why do people continue to say this?

Texas will probably hire Chris Petersen.

Not sure there's any movement in the SEC save someone like Sumlin or Franklin going to USC.. neither of which I see happening, though. Maybe a Mullen ousting? They're not touching Petrino, either.

Petrino only scored 19 on Navy the other day. At home. They're 3-2 with an FCS win mixed in with a loss to South Alabama.
He's going to be at Western Kentucky for a bit longer.

Everyone knows he can win and is a genius play caller, but no one believes he can establish and sustain a program. It's very arguable, because he's never done it over an extended period of time. Closest he got, he blew it up after a motorcycle ride with his hired side piece... and whether it was due to any more fault of his than the obvious, that program was left in shambles.

Every place he has left was in disarray afterwards. That's not a good stigma to have if you're already known as a job-hopper. AD's won't touch that at bigger universities.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 30, 2013, 11:17:41 AM
There are about 5 different threads I could have put this in.  I even thought about starting a new thread for it, but I think it will work fine here.

Do you remember back in 2008 when Arkansas had finally rid itself of Nutt and there were a number of "hot" coaches that the Hogs were considering hiring?  One of those coaches you might recall was Jim Grobe who turned down an offer.  Since turning down that offer Grobe has gone 21-33.  On Saturday his Demon Deacons got blown out 56-7 by Clemson.  If Grobe's seat wasn't already hot it most certainly will be if his team continues at their current pace.

Talk about dodging a bullet.
Yeah we've been all over the dodging the bullet conversation. I think the consensus on Grobe is that he's a decent coach that likes pain and misery at Wake. I'm not sure what happened but he had a flash in the pan couple of seasons and then it's went to shit. That was also during a time where the ACC was REALLY REALLY REALLY Down.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/aac/2013/09/30/uconn-football-coach-paul-pasqualoni-fired/2895197/

Was a horrible hire to start with. Meanwhile the guy before him is turning around Maryland.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on September 30, 2013, 11:31:20 AM
There are about 5 different threads I could have put this in.  I even thought about starting a new thread for it, but I think it will work fine here.

Do you remember back in 2008 when Arkansas had finally rid itself of Nutt and there were a number of "hot" coaches that the Hogs were considering hiring?  One of those coaches you might recall was Jim Grobe who turned down an offer.  Since turning down that offer Grobe has gone 21-33.  On Saturday his Demon Deacons got blown out 56-7 by Clemson.  If Grobe's seat wasn't already hot it most certainly will be if his team continues at their current pace.

Talk about dodging a bullet.

At one time Deloss Dodds made the statement that if Mack Brown retired the guy he'd try to hire would be Jim Grobe. 

Please, make this happen. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 30, 2013, 11:47:00 AM
Every place he has left was in disarray afterwards. That's not a good stigma to have if you're already known as a job-hopper. AD's won't touch that at bigger universities.

Where we went wrong is missing on some guys out of that 2011 class. I'm counting about 9 guys out of that class that are currently on the team and contributing. These should be the core of the current team. Meanwhile there are busts like Funderburke...Wade is out of football. Minor never developed. Whitehurst now at South Carolina contributing. Then of course Gosha, Haman, and others on the defensive side are just really helping out...in spirit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogggdadi on September 30, 2013, 12:06:23 PM
may be posted & i didn't see it, but if so, frick you anyway. 

earl campbell says Mack needs to go.  chris simms says the same thing per the espins.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on September 30, 2013, 12:39:03 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on September 30, 2013, 01:12:34 PM


Was a horrible hire to start with. Meanwhile the guy before him is turning around Maryland.

Edsall has been a flop at Maryland so far in a down ACC, that's what they get for firing the Fridge, who was the ACC COY his final season.

to say he's turned it around is overstating it.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: USAFHawg on September 30, 2013, 01:18:08 PM
Edsall has been a flop at Maryland so far in a down ACC, that's what they get for firing the Fridge, who was the ACC COY his final season.

to say he's turned it around is overstating it.

Edsall had a linebacker playing 5th string QB last year. I don't think Saban would have done much better.

The Fridge had lost his luster. Too many of the local heroes were going away to play. Edsall is getting a lot of them to stay home. The next few years will be interesting.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 30, 2013, 01:24:58 PM
Edsall has been a flop at Maryland so far in a down ACC, that's what they get for firing the Fridge, who was the ACC COY his final season.

to say he's turned it around is overstating it.

I havent been paying attention, but he destroyed WVU two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 30, 2013, 01:27:25 PM
Edsall has been a flop at Maryland so far in a down ACC, that's what they get for firing the Fridge, who was the ACC COY his final season.

to say he's turned it around is overstating it.

Well they are 4-0 with a big win over West Virginia that looks a lot better today than it did a week ago. I think they have an excellent shot for a bowl game this year. I'd say that qualifies as turning it around.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 30, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
Well they are 4-0 with a big win over West Virginia that looks a lot better today than it did a week ago. I think they have an excellent shot for a bowl game this year. I'd say that qualifies as turning it around.

I think we have figured it out, Goose is an Edsall Dark Sider.  :stache:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nutt Hill Hawg on September 30, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
Every place he has left was in disarray afterwards. That's not a good stigma to have if you're already known as a job-hopper. AD's won't touch that at bigger universities.

Minus the NFL daddy, Petrino is an older and lot more talented Lane Kiffin.  I think you're giving big time AD's waaayyy too much credit.  If Haden thought Bobby could beat Oregon he'd hire him tomorrow.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on September 30, 2013, 03:50:03 PM
Minus the NFL daddy, Petrino is an older and lot more talented Lane Kiffin.

Yup, that's retarded.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nutt Hill Hawg on September 30, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
Yup, that's retarded.

What's retarded about it?  Both were bad NFL coaches.  Petrino had an ugly exit at Atlanta, despised by Blank just like Al Davis and Kiffin.  Kiffin left Tennessee with some good recruits on paper but no actual depth.  Both of them have a "me first", "fuck what everybody else thinks" attitude.  Top it off with a love of tall, hot blondes...the similarities are there whether you want to believe it or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 30, 2013, 04:01:57 PM
Would it be fair to say that Lane Kiffin is a thinner version of Charlie Weis or perhaps even more comparable to Rick Neuhesil (sp?).
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on September 30, 2013, 04:05:01 PM
What's retarded about it?  Both were bad NFL coaches.  Petrino had an ugly exit at Atlanta, despised by Blank just like Al Davis and Kiffin.  Kiffin left Tennessee with some good recruits on paper but no actual depth.  Both of them have a "me first", "fuck what everybody else thinks" attitude.  Top it off with a love of tall, hot blondes...the similarities are there whether you want to believe it or not.

Petrino actually had success in some form as a head coach (2 BCS bowl games, 1-1 at two different schools). Kiffin's best year was a 10-2 season where they couldn't go to a bowl. Other than that his teams have been very average or bad. There's no comparison as far as coaching goes. Hot blondes? Yeah that's about it

Lane Kiffin is more comparable to Mike D'antoni of the Lakers. He fails UP
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hobo on September 30, 2013, 04:07:04 PM
Pat Forde ‏@YahooForde 10m
Texas two-step: Step 1 -- @ChipBrownOB reports Dodds will retire; Dodds denies it. Step 2 -- Kirk Bohls reports it a few weeks later.

So maybe Mack ascends to the AD spot and hires Gene Cheeeeeezik
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on September 30, 2013, 04:08:45 PM
Edsall has been a flop at Maryland so far in a down ACC, that's what they get for firing the Fridge, who was the ACC COY his final season.

to say he's turned it around is overstating it.

Franklin was the coach in waiting.  Had they just gone ahead and hired him, I think Maryland would be very solid in the ACC.  I realize everyone here doesn't like Franklin as much as I do, but if he can win this way with Vandy in the ACC, he could damn sure win 8 or 9 a year in the ACC and maybe even contend for an ACC title.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nutt Hill Hawg on September 30, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Petrino actually had success in some form as a head coach (2 BCS bowl games, 1-1 at two different schools). Kiffin's best year was a 10-2 season where they couldn't go to a bowl. Other than that his teams have been very average or bad. There's no comparison as far as coaching goes. Hot blondes? Yeah that's about it

Lane Kiffin is more comparable to Mike D'antoni of the Lakers. He fails UP

As i said in my original post, Petrino is a lot more talented.  Your comparison about failing up is valid, Kiffin's probably the next coach of the Cowboys.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on September 30, 2013, 04:12:29 PM
Petrino actually had success in some form as a head coach (2 BCS bowl games, 1-1 at two different schools). Kiffin's best year was a 10-2 season where they couldn't go to a bowl. Other than that his teams have been very average or bad. There's no comparison as far as coaching goes. Hot blondes? Yeah that's about it

Lane Kiffin is more comparable to Mike D'antoni of the Lakers. He fails UP

Let's not forget Kiffen hadn't even worked as a coordinator when Al Davis hired him, Sark was the OC at USC.  He jumped straight to the top and has been full of fail ever since for the most part.

Petrino worked his way up the ranks and had a ton of experience with different coaches from the lowest levels up eventually to the top. He had good mentors in Coughlin, Ault, and Johnelle.  He was about as prepared to be a head coach as he could be when he took the Louisville job.  Kiffen was gifted the QB coach position at USC because of connections and somehow jumped straight to NFL head coach. 

I can't think of two more dissimilar paths.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on September 30, 2013, 04:25:46 PM
As i said in my original post, Petrino is a lot more talented.  Your comparison about failing up is valid, Kiffin's probably the next coach of the Cowboys.

Ok so you say Petrino is more talented than Kiffin as a coach. So the comparisons you're stating are that:

1) They both were bad NFL Coaches (I would be a bad one too)
2) They both have a "me first, fuck everybody else" attitude (I am on woopig.net so I have this attitude as well)
3) They both like blondes (I definitely enjoy the blondes)

Therefore I am comparable to Petrino and Kiffin? It's a stretch
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on September 30, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
Ok so you say Petrino is more talented than Kiffin as a coach. So the comparisons you're stating are that:

1) They both were bad NFL Coaches (I would be a bad one too)
2) They both have a "me first, frick everybody else" attitude (I am on woopig.net so I have this attitude as well)
3) They both like blondes (I definitely enjoy the blondes)

Therefore I am comparable to Petrino and Kiffin? It's a stretch

No, just to Kiffin.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on September 30, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
Let's not forget Kiffen hadn't even worked as a coordinator when Al Davis hired him, Sark was the OC at USC.  He jumped straight to the top and has been full of fail ever since for the most part.

Petrino worked his way up the ranks and had a ton of experience with different coaches from the lowest levels up eventually to the top. He had good mentors in Coughlin, Ault, and Johnelle.  He was about as prepared to be a head coach as he could be when he took the Louisville job.  Kiffen was gifted the QB coach position at USC because of connections and somehow jumped straight to NFL head coach. 

I can't think of two more dissimilar paths.

Kiffin was OC 05-06 then left. Sark took over 07-08, then left for Washington.

Kiffin was never QB coach at USC either. Coached TE's and WR's.
Spent time at Jacksonville (when Petrino was OC, incidentally), Colorado State and Fresno State before that.


Really... your "he was gifted the job" schtick works better for Sarkisian. But, whatever.
He was hired in 2001 after coaching QB's one year at a JuCo.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on September 30, 2013, 04:35:58 PM
Actually Petrino and Kiffin were both at Jacksonville at the same time. But the real similarities (the ones that actually matter) pretty much end there.

It will be interesting to see what becomes of him because at one time like it or not there were some pretty well respected football people that saw something in him. I figure he will have to return to a position coach gig, the NFL may prove more fitted for him since he can't recruit a kid without minor infractions.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on September 30, 2013, 05:05:29 PM
Kiffin was OC 05-06 then left. Sark took over 07-08, then left for Washington.

Kiffin was never QB coach at USC either. Coached TE's and WR's.
Spent time at Jacksonville (when Petrino was OC, incidentally), Colorado State and Fresno State before that.


Really... your "he was gifted the job" schtick works better for Sarkisian. But, whatever.
He was hired in 2001 after coaching QB's one year at a JuCo.

Maybe, but not many people in history have had the chance to fail as a head coach at two prominent colleges and one pro team all before age 38.  Hell, Nutt will be damn near 60 before Jerry hires him to finish off the Cowboys. 

Thus far Sark looks like the better of the two, shorter resumé notwithstanding.  And people forget that Al Davis tried to hire Sarkisian first, then settled for Kiffin.  Not that being Al's first choice should be taken as a ringing endorsement. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Chigurh on September 30, 2013, 05:19:45 PM
I would think Gary Patterson will be Texas' choice. OTOH, I could see Les Miles taking the job.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on September 30, 2013, 05:21:18 PM
I would think Gary Patterson will be Texas' choice. OTOH, I could see Les Miles taking the job.

Still think Art Briles would be best hire for them. If they got Patterson they it wouldn't be bad either
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on September 30, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
I would think Gary Patterson will be Texas' choice. OTOH, I could see Les Miles taking the job.
Nah, I think Les is pretty happy where he is.  He gets the top talent Louisiana can produce and just got a nice raise.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on September 30, 2013, 06:21:30 PM
Kiffin was OC 05-06 then left. Sark took over 07-08, then left for Washington.

Kiffin was never QB coach at USC either. Coached TE's and WR's.
Spent time at Jacksonville (when Petrino was OC, incidentally), Colorado State and Fresno State before that.


Really... your "he was gifted the job" schtick works better for Sarkisian. But, whatever.
He was hired in 2001 after coaching QB's one year at a JuCo.

How did it work better for Sarkisian?

Going from college position coach to NFL head coach is way less common than going from college OC to head coach at a lesser program.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: BigEarn on September 30, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9750328/sources-texas-athletic-director-deloss-dodds-retire-2014


Not good for Mack Brown.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on September 30, 2013, 07:05:07 PM
What's retarded about it?

Petrino is considered an offensive genius.  Kiffin isn't considered a genius at anything.

Petrino's biggest handicap is not giving a fuck about politics.  Kiffin'as biggest handicap is being a shitty coach.

Petrino is 2-0 in having big-time success as a college head coach.  Kiffin is 0-2.

Petrino has a clearly definable system.  Kiffin does not.

Kiffin is a "do anything to get blue chip recruits" coach.  Petrino is a "get kids that fit and coach them up" coach.

Kiffin is a "take pot shots at other schools in the media to gain exposure" coach.  Petrino is a "say largely what you think, stick to the football in the media" coach.

Kiffin is into dudes, Petrino is straight.

Your support for your thesis is that both had one bad year in the NFL, that both are concerned about themselves, and that both are into young blondes.  That alone tells you how fucking retarded the comparison is.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 30, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
Kiffin did very well his one year at TN, I think.  It was kind of a mess and they had a decent season with a lot of momentum in recruiting, I think. 
I think the guy has always been a beneficiary of his daddy's rep... but Kiffin has accomplished a little bit of success. 
I wouldn't hire him if I were a big time program because he comes across as an entitle douche, kind of like a college version of Josh McDaniels and he's burned some bridges.  He has recruited well though. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 30, 2013, 07:11:50 PM
Whoever mentioned Chip Kelly to Texas pulled a pretty reasonable scenario out of a box, I think.
I don't think Sumlin goes to USC as much as he and David Shaw are both going to get serious pro interest and being very successful AND BLACK is going to make them desirable. 

I'm just not sure which are the pro teams that are going to be shopping out there.  I'm not sure Tampa or Philly would get another college coach if they have to replace one this February. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on September 30, 2013, 07:13:03 PM
Kiffin did very well his one year at TN, I think.  It was kind of a mess and they had a decent season with a lot of momentum in recruiting, I think. 

He went 7-6 in his one year, one game better than Dooley did the next year.  Not all that impressive.

And his recruiting class was pretty much equal to what they had been getting for a couple of decades, and half of them were gone within a year or two.  Kiffin didn't do dick at tinnersee.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on September 30, 2013, 08:17:44 PM
I guess.... even though it was considered a puzzling hire at the time and obviously criticized AFTERWARDS, I feel like there was a feeling in Vol nation that year that he was taking it in the right direction.  Of course, I still think they messed up firing Fat Phil, but that's another dead horse. 

I think Lane Kiffin can be a good head coach - half of recruiting is swagger anyway.  He's going to have to quit pissing off important people though.

I'd have to guess this is Peterson's last go 'round with the bullshit quiet flirting.  If they offer the TX job, then take it and crawl to Austin if you have to.  I wouldn't even answer his phone calls anymore if I'm half the ADs in the country. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on September 30, 2013, 08:27:06 PM
I would credit Ed "The Animal" Ogreon with the success of Kiffin's recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Boondoggle on September 30, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
And then there are fuckwits like you who live in history to the exclusion of anything else.


Now you listen here, mister....

...an oldie but a goodie. Vol fans must feel vindicated now:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Drunk-Redneck-Pisses-On-and-Sets-Fire-to-Lane-Kiffin-Gear.jpg
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on September 30, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
I would credit Ed "The Animal" Ogreon with the success of Kiffin's recruiting.

Orgreon said that he likes his hummers.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: gambler on September 30, 2013, 09:44:31 PM
Where does Kiffin end up? Burnt bridges in the SEC and fired from USC. Sunbelt or another idiotic genius on espin?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HoneyBakedPiglet on September 30, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
Where does Kiffin end up? Burnt bridges in the SEC and fired from USC. Sunbelt or another idiotic genius on espin?

He could pimp out his wife. Hot chick like that would be an elite escort.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on September 30, 2013, 10:26:46 PM
Where does Kiffin end up? Burnt bridges in the SEC and fired from USC. Sunbelt or another idiotic genius on espin?
ESPN was the first thing I thought of. He'll get a coordinator gig somewhere. He's too arrogant to take a lower level job. That's another difference between he and Petrino.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mr A Ziffell on September 30, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
ESPN was the first thing I thought of. He'll get a coordinator gig somewhere. He's too arrogant to take a lower level job. That's another difference between he and Petrino.

Kiffin is an ass..what goes around comes around....I know this....it bit me in the ass...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on October 01, 2013, 12:04:44 AM
now USC is free to hire Del Rio...

they hired Kiffin and Ogre b/c they figured they could replicate the cheating empire of California Pete.  the difference is that Carroll is a great fucking coach that knew how to utilize the best cheaters.  Vito left and they were stuck with a shitty combination of Fredo and Santino.  They wanted a Michael.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Boondoggle on October 01, 2013, 12:21:01 AM
now USC is free to hire Del Rio...

they hired Kiffin and Ogre b/c they figured they could replicate the cheating empire of California Pete.  the difference is that Carroll is a great fricking coach that knew how to utilize the best cheaters.  Vito left and they were stuck with a shitty combination of Fredo and Santino.  They wanted a Michael.


Gruden is still available. So they could have Michael and Chuckie.

Or maybe just Chuckie.







Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on October 01, 2013, 07:04:07 AM
Where does Kiffin end up? Burnt bridges in the SEC and fired from USC. Sunbelt or another idiotic genius on espin?

That will be the telling part. If he is well regarded at all among coaches he will land an OC job in the off season. If he goes to the NFL I figure he would have to be a WR coach of something. I guess he is still enough of a name where some tier 2 or 3 program (tigerbait method) might hire him as head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on October 01, 2013, 07:33:47 AM
Reggie herring is stil a position coach

Sylvester croom I'd still a coach

Kiffin will be an oc next year

I really hope richt is off the hotseat
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on October 01, 2013, 08:24:14 AM
Why do talking heads think Del Rio would be a good hire? 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Satchuation on October 01, 2013, 08:40:05 AM
Why do talking heads think Del Rio would be a good hire?

Because he's a phenomenal evaluator of talent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siswNUQBkqs
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pork Soda on October 01, 2013, 08:45:30 AM
Why do talking heads think Del Rio would be a good hire?

Mostly mental masturbation, as far as I can tell.  He's a successful NFL coordinator with USC-w ties.  The feeling amongst Denver fans has been that his success with the defense there would get him a look from some teams for a second shot at a head coaching job in the NFL, but that he might be over that shit at this point.  His experience as a head coach plus his successes as a coordinator, plus his ties to the program do sort of make it interesting if you squint just right.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on October 01, 2013, 09:27:05 AM
Maybe, but not many people in history have had the chance to fail as a head coach at two prominent colleges and one pro team all before age 38.  Hell, Nutt will be damn near 60 before Jerry hires him to finish off the Cowboys. 

Thus far Sark looks like the better of the two, shorter resumé notwithstanding.  And people forget that Al Davis tried to hire Sarkisian first, then settled for Kiffin.  Not that being Al's first choice should be taken as a ringing endorsement.
How did he fail at Tennessee? He bailed on them after a year because USC threw a lot of money at him. A lot of folks thought he wasn't given a proper shot at Oakland either, but a lot of folks say that about every coach they've hired over the past decade.

Have never read from a legit, believable source where Al Davis wanted Sark first (he was only a QB coach then, after all), but you may be right. Always marked that up as urban myth stuff from people just trashing Kiffin.

How did it work better for Sarkisian?

Going from college position coach to NFL head coach is way less common than going from college OC to head coach at a lesser program.

No, you said Kiffin was gifted a job at USC out of nowhere, but that's not really the case. Sarkisian literally was a QB coach at a community college when USC hired him.


Look, I'm not saying I'm a Kiffin fan by any means. Folks like to pile on him, because he's a brash asshole.
Fact is, he's been at USC for only 3.5 seasons and has never had all 85 scholarships because of NCAA sanctions from stuff before he was the head coach there. That deserved better than a mid-season, 3 a.m., fire you and leave you at the airport move.

Extremely unprofessional on USC's part. But it's Kiffin, so it's funny and we can all laugh at it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mr A Ziffell on October 01, 2013, 09:49:45 AM
The tie....
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Satchuation on October 01, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
The tie....

He's got Daly wearing the orange already.  :notexas:

(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/John+Daly+Jon+Gruden+PODS+Championship+Round+Q_t-1pm8Evkl.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on October 01, 2013, 10:21:21 AM
That damned Daly with a smoke AND his club in the same hand. That's some man shit right there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 01, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
How did he fail at Tennessee? He bailed on them after a year because USC threw a lot of money at him. A lot of folks thought he wasn't given a proper shot at Oakland either, but a lot of folks say that about every coach they've hired over the past decade.

Have never read from a legit, believable source where Al Davis wanted Sark first (he was only a QB coach then, after all), but you may be right. Always marked that up as urban myth stuff from people just trashing Kiffin.


He went 7-6 in his only year, brought NCAA problems to the school (I don't think anything came of it, other than harming the school's rep).  The timing of his departure and the threat of sanctions caused them to have to hire a turd like Dooley.  Not to mention he chased away Tajh Boyd in favor of Tyler Bray.  Think Tennessee would have been a little better off with Boyd over the last few years? 

When your record sucks at a school AND you leave it in worse shape than when you got there, that's a fail in my (and most people's) book. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mr A Ziffell on October 01, 2013, 10:48:50 AM
When your record sucks at a school AND you leave it in worse shape than when you got there, that's a fail in my (and most people's) book.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on October 01, 2013, 11:08:18 AM
Extremely unprofessional on USC's part. But it's Kiffin, so it's funny and we can all laugh at it.

Yes you are correct, but clearly the wide sentiment by fans and followers is that the guy is a dick and his boss firing him at 3 a.m. basically reinforces that opinion. It seems like a page right out of the Josh McDummy firing which if I recall correctly was an abrupt termination in the middle of the night. Ordinarily you don't make those kinds of brash heat of the moment decisions without something triggering it that made it worth it to pull that smarmy bastard off the bus and tell him to pound sand. We can only speculate as to what that trigger was, but I kinda doubt it was just because he lost in a blow out on the road without a full complement of scholarship players.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 01, 2013, 11:12:04 AM
Yes you are correct, but clearly the wide sentiment by fans and followers is that the guy is a dick and his boss firing him at 3 a.m. basically reinforces that opinion. It seems like a page right out of the Josh McDummy firing which if I recall correctly was an abrupt termination in the middle of the night. Ordinarily you don't make those kinds of brash heat of the moment decisions without something triggering it that made it worth it to pull that smarmy bastard off the bus and tell him to pound sand. We can only speculate as to what that trigger was, but I kinda doubt it was just because he lost in a blow out on the road without a full complement of scholarship players.

For all we know Haden might have caught Kiffin doing lines in the bathroom or fucking a goat after the game.  Something had to happen other than just letting a mediocre ASU squad hang 61 on your team. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on October 01, 2013, 11:28:46 AM
For all we know Haden might have caught Kiffin doing lines in the bathroom or fucking a goat after the game.  Something had to happen other than just letting a mediocre ASU squad hang 61 on your team.

I feel like it was more of a pre-emptive strike than anything.  "Before you can fuck us, we're going to fuck you," sort of scenario.  I also feel like zero tolerance for Petrino was kind of the same situation.  Screw before being screwed.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on October 01, 2013, 12:33:18 PM
For all we know Haden might have caught Kiffin doing lines in the bathroom or fricking a goat after the game.  Something had to happen other than just letting a mediocre ASU squad hang 61 on your team.

61, 62, 220, 221.  Whatever it takes.   Say, that makes me think.  Maybe USC could hire Jack BUTLER rather than Jack Del Rio.



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: SteveJ on October 01, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
He went 7-6 in his only year, brought NCAA problems to the school (I don't think anything came of it, other than harming the school's rep).  The timing of his departure and the threat of sanctions caused them to have to hire a turd like Dooley.  Not to mention he chased away Tajh Boyd in favor of Tyler Bray.  Think Tennessee would have been a little better off with Boyd over the last few years? 

When your record sucks at a school AND you leave it in worse shape than when you got there, that's a fail in my (and most people's) book.

I hadn't ever read this before. It's a wonder he lasted as long as he did at Tennessee.

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/01/12/volunteer-sources-say-kiffin-never-embraced-tennessee/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on October 01, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
I hadn't ever read this before. It's a wonder he lasted as long as he did at Tennessee.

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/01/12/volunteer-sources-say-kiffin-never-embraced-tennessee/

money quote:

Quote
But everything wasn't bad at Tennessee.

For instance, there was Lane's dad, Monte, the team's defensive coordinator.

"Monte was loved by everyone," says McNeil. "He was a great guy, a great football coach, but a better guy."

McNeil pauses for a moment, thinks.

"He and Lane had absolutely nothing in common."
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TRAVELHOG on October 01, 2013, 05:05:32 PM
I hadn't ever read this before. It's a wonder he lasted as long as he did at Tennessee.

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/01/12/volunteer-sources-say-kiffin-never-embraced-tennessee/

Damn. Dude's an even bigger douche than I thought possible. Almost makes me fell sorry for Tennessee.

Almost.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: UAClassof81 on October 01, 2013, 05:15:20 PM
Sounds like the crap Bill Callahan did at Nebraska and Howard Shnellenberger did at OU.  Classic cases of how not to win the players/fans/former players/alumni over. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 01, 2013, 07:08:22 PM
Damn. Dude's an even bigger douche than I thought possible. Almost makes me fell sorry for Tennessee.

Almost.

In fairness, that article was written by Clay Travis in between his alleged liasons with underage transsexual prostitutes outside his law practice in Nashville, Tennessee.  I'm not a Kiffin fan, but if Clay Travis and his band of supporters from the world of pedophilia are against him I might have to rethink my position.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: BASS on October 01, 2013, 08:30:47 PM

Was a horrible hire to start with. Meanwhile the guy before him is turning around Maryland.

that's what i don't get...you fire a guy who has mediocre to good seasons after a down year and hire a guy whose ceiling has never even sniffed mediocre. 

lots of teams hire guys that were fired from their previous job and it rarely works out.  belichick comes to mind, but he was fired from cleveland, which probably points more to the team just sucking no matter what than it points to he wasn't a great coach then, but turned into an awesome coach in boston.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on October 01, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
Reggie herring is stil a position coach

Sylvester croom I'd still a coach

Kiffin will be an oc next year

I really hope richt is off the hotseat

The haiku is Friday.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on October 01, 2013, 08:58:05 PM
The haiku is Friday.

Judging from the lack of participation in those recent threads, haiku's died with Bobby Petrino in that motorcycle accident.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: libertyhog on October 01, 2013, 11:02:54 PM
Judging from the lack of participation in those recent threads, haiku's died with Bobby Petrino in that motorcycle accident.

You're just mad because you still haven't mastered the art of haiku.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on October 01, 2013, 11:40:41 PM
that's what i don't get...you fire a guy who has mediocre to good seasons after a down year and hire a guy whose ceiling has never even sniffed mediocre. 

lots of teams hire guys that were fired from their previous job and it rarely works out.  belichick comes to mind, but he was fired from cleveland, which probably points more to the team just sucking no matter what than it points to he wasn't a great coach then, but turned into an awesome coach in boston.

fired in Cleveland, but hired away from the J-E-T-S!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on October 02, 2013, 07:05:42 AM

You're just mad because you still haven't mastered the art of haiku.

That's it, you caught me.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on October 02, 2013, 07:11:50 AM
that's what i don't get...you fire a guy who has mediocre to good seasons after a down year and hire a guy whose ceiling has never even sniffed mediocre. 

lots of teams hire guys that were fired from their previous job and it rarely works out.  belichick comes to mind, but he was fired from cleveland, which probably points more to the team just sucking no matter what than it points to he wasn't a great coach then, but turned into an awesome coach in boston.

Made me start to think of who actually panned out later after being fired. Pete Carroll?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on October 02, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
Made me start to think of who actually panned out later after being fired. Pete Carroll?

Lou Holtz
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on October 02, 2013, 08:21:20 AM
You're just mad because you still haven't mastered the art of haiku.

Nah, he gets haiku, he just uses a different format.

1255
1757
1255
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: KSHogg on October 02, 2013, 08:45:49 AM



 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: lawtiger on October 02, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
Nah, he gets haiku, he just uses a different format.

1255
1757
1255

Superb hustling.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on October 02, 2013, 09:48:23 AM
So, how many coaches could tape their weekly coaches show drunk and not get in hot water? I'm thinking
Spurrier (http://deadspin.com/south-carolina-spiked-a-tv-program-featuring-a-slurring-1440118418) and Saban.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on October 02, 2013, 06:16:50 PM
You're just mad because you still haven't mastered the art of haiku.
I have never understood it
 and am too old to learn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on October 07, 2013, 07:05:33 PM
Miami (OH) fired their HC:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/06/miami-oh-hc-don-treadwell-relieved-of-his-responsibilities/

Garrick demoted Reggie Johnson:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/07/uab-does-a-midseason-demotion-at-dc/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on October 17, 2013, 09:45:19 PM
Grambling...I don't even know if they're going to finish the season. I don't even see how they can afford an athletic program. I read some info off the LA Tech board and from what was said there, the administration has been flying to games while the team took buses to KC and Indianapolis and was forced to sleep on the bus. Their workout equipment is full of mold and some players have contracted staph from their facility. Their administration is notoriously inept/corrupt.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/17/grambling-dismisses-coach-for-second-time-this-season/

Following a tension-filled week that saw players walk out of an administrative meeting and skip a Wednesday football practice, Grambling has dismissed interim head coach George Ragsdale. Ragsdale was named the interim head coach last month following the firing of head coach Doug Williams. The university named defensive coordinator Dennis Winston the interim head coach of the month and here’s hoping the program can get through the rest of the season without any more changes during the season.

Winston is a former NFL player, who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers and New Orleans Saints and he played college football for Arkansas. He previously was an assistant coach for former Grambling coach Eddie Robinson. Grambling athletics director Aaron James named Winston the team’s latest interim head coach due to his ability to calm things down.

Given the information coming out this week about the level of player satisfaction with the university, Winston is stepping in to a real tough spot. The first task will be to connect with his players, which hopefully goes smoothly as Grambling attempts to turn things around as a program not used to this level of play exhibited over the past season and a half.

Ultimately though it is up to the powers that be at Grambling to make sure the players in their football program have their support. That appears to be lacking given the information previously reported.

UPDATE (10:17 p.m.): USA Today reports Grambling football players skipped practice on Thursday as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on October 17, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Dirt was a helluva linebacker and good man.  I wish him the best of luck.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on October 17, 2013, 10:31:19 PM
Dirt was a helluva linebacker and good man.  I wish him the best of luck.
Grambling always operated under a dark cloud. Barry wouldn't let his kid go there. Didn't know Dirt was there. Hope he does good.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 09, 2013, 02:15:20 PM
Add Will Muschamp
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on November 09, 2013, 02:24:22 PM
Add Will Muschamp

Was coming to post this. The wheels are flying off in Gainesville.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on November 09, 2013, 02:28:29 PM
FL's coaching search will be very interesting.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on November 09, 2013, 02:45:33 PM

I think Muschamp gets another year.  Probably replaces an asst or two. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on November 09, 2013, 03:33:50 PM
FL's coaching search will be very interesting.

Petrino   :evil:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogslobber on November 09, 2013, 04:25:57 PM
Why would Florida not look at Gus.

He could do some real damage down there.

Auburn got Gus for cheap, he will get a large raise or new job next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: IH8LSU on November 09, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Why would Florida not look at Gus Hootie.

He could do some real damage down there.



broked
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 09, 2013, 05:17:18 PM
Why would Florida not look at Gus.

He could do some real damage down there.

Dead Trees got Gus for cheap, he will get a large raise or new job next year.

I'm not sure Gus is the type to pull an Urban Meyer and always take the next best job as soon as their QB situation looks better.  I think he's at Auburn for a long time, until the U of A comes calling, if it ever does.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: jeb stuart on November 09, 2013, 05:19:13 PM
I'm not sure Gus is the type to pull an Urban Meyer and always take the next best job as soon as their QB situation looks better.  I think he's at Auburn for a long time, until the U of A comes calling, if it ever does.

Gus will do what ever that crazy fucking wife of his tells him to do.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: papermill on November 09, 2013, 05:49:05 PM
Add Will Muschamp

BOOM motherfucker
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on November 09, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
What in Gus's career shows that he won't leave town at the first better offer?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Dr. HawgLove on November 09, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
I'm not sure Gus is the type to pull an Urban Meyer and always take the next best job as soon as their QB situation looks better.
Ok I'm kinda drunk.  Is this sarcasm?  That's all he has ever done.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 09, 2013, 09:27:33 PM
i'm just sad that we didn't get a chance to kick florida while they were down.  shit, even vanderbilt got a piece of that gator ass.

'Man, you'd sure like to have florida on your schedule every year..."


Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on November 10, 2013, 06:59:32 PM
I'm not sure Gus is the type to pull an Urban Meyer and always take the next best job as soon as their QB situation looks better.  I think he's at Dead Trees for a long time, until the U of A comes calling, if it ever does.


Really? I mean really?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 10, 2013, 07:36:09 PM
i think auburn is a good stopping point for the gus.  i think he stays there for several years.  he is looked at like a demi-God there, and they are mostly content with being Saban's he-bitch in perpetuity.  Florida is not a better job, in my opinion.  Money at Auburn is good, and he will get more if they call...Auburn is at least =or>than gainsville...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on November 10, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
i think auburn is a good stopping point for the gus.  i think he stays there for several years.  he is looked at like a demi-God there, and they are mostly content with being Saban's he-bitch in perpetuity.  Florida is not a better job, in my opinion.  Money at Auburn is good, and he will get more if they call...Auburn is at least =or>than gainsville...

I hope he stays there forever. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 10, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
i just don't care.
if he comes here i will cheer for him.
if he stays there i will continue to pray for his death.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snortingred1 on November 10, 2013, 07:54:08 PM
I hope he stays there forever.

Then All burn will get the death penalty for their blatant cheating.  It would make our troubles a little sweeter in the end.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 10, 2013, 07:55:45 PM
i think Dead Trees is a good stopping point for the gus.  i think he stays there for several years.  he is looked at like a demi-God there, and they are mostly content with being Saban's he-bitch in perpetuity.  Florida is not a better job, in my opinion.  Money at Dead Trees is good, and he will get more if they call...Dead Trees is at least =or>than gainsville...

This is what I think. 

He really loved it there the first go around but didn't think he could be an SEC HC straight from coordinator, at least not soon. 

And at this point in time, is Florida that much better a job than Auburn.  Of course not.  Florida has had tremendous success the last 20 years when they've had 2 of the best coaches in the game.  When they've had Zook and Muschamp, they've been average to good.  I'd be willing to bet Auburn's 8 year run between 98 and 05 was better than Florida's, so it can be done if the coach is great.  And most great coaches are egotistical enough to know this.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on November 10, 2013, 08:00:54 PM
This is what I think. 

He really loved it there the first go around but didn't think he could be an SEC HC straight from coordinator, at least not soon. 

And at this point in time, is Florida that much better a job than Auburn.  Of course not.  Florida has had tremendous success the last 20 years when they've had 2 of the best coaches in the game.  When they've had Zook and Muschamp, they've been average to good.  I'd be willing to bet Auburn's 8 year run between 98 and 05 was better than Florida's, so it can be done if the coach is great.  And most great coaches are egotistical enough to know this.

Gus can go fail there, too.  Hope he stays there forever.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: cotte on November 10, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
Gus can go fail there, too.  Hope he stays there forever.

How would you feel if he came here?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on November 11, 2013, 09:43:43 AM
How would you feel if he came here?

I hope he doesn't, but if he did, I'd pull for him just like any other coach.

But I sure hope he doesn't.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on November 11, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
This is what I think. 

He really loved it there the first go around but didn't think he could be an SEC HC straight from coordinator, at least not soon. 

And at this point in time, is Florida that much better a job than Dead Trees.  Of course not.  Florida has had tremendous success the last 20 years when they've had 2 of the best coaches in the game.  When they've had Zook and Muschamp, they've been average to good.  I'd be willing to bet Dead Trees's 8 year run between 98 and 05 was better than Florida's, so it can be done if the coach is great.  And most great coaches are egotistical enough to know this.

Agree with both these posts.  If Gus jumps this quick he will risk getting the serial philanderer and will start getting the huge buyout handcuffs.  He's got a nice situation at Auburn and he's made his way into a major SEC HC position.  He needs to stay put and show he can recruit consistently to his program.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on November 11, 2013, 11:28:43 AM
Agree with both these posts.  If Gus jumps this quick he will risk getting the serial philanderer and will start getting the huge buyout handcuffs.  He's got a nice situation at Dead Trees and he's made his way into a major SEC HC position.  He needs to stay put and show he can recruit consistently to his program.
Well, right. That's logical enough.
You can't say he won't leave Auburn because he's not the type to job hop or whatever, though... because that's all he's done to this point in his career.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on November 11, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
Gus will not miss an opportunity to break it off on Paw Paw's legacy every chance he can get.  Unless Fla moves to the West or vice-versa, he will be at Auburn until Bert recruits well enough to beat him. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 11, 2013, 08:52:16 PM
Being handed a HC job at ANY school 3 years removed from a National Championship shows he is a valued and respected coach.
Leaving THAT job for what most would consider a lateral move after one year would be suicide.  Remember, AU has a newer crystal ball than FL does, and he was a major factor in getting it.


anybody who wants to throw the "but wait, Cammmy Cam blah blah smargggle cock snarrf in mouf nnmmmnonomnomnom..." can go suck a dick.  that's not what i'm talking about here.





Gus will not miss an opportunity to break it off on Paw Paw's legacy every chance he can get.  Unless Fla moves to the West or vice-versa, he will be at Auburn until Bert recruits well enough to beat him. 

you think Bert is white haired devil's legacy? 
you have him confused with hootie, who has left the building...and took them game tapes with him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on November 12, 2013, 08:32:27 AM
Florida isnt a better job than Auburn?????  :o
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 12, 2013, 09:14:37 AM
Florida isnt a better job than Auburn?????  :o

In my opinion, it's a lateral move.  As far as the actual move is concerned, I would consider it a downgrade.  Gainesville isn't that nice, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on November 12, 2013, 09:29:10 AM
In my opinion, it's a lateral move.  As far as the actual move is concerned, I would consider it a downgrade.  Gainesville isn't that nice, at least in my opinion.
In my opinion it would be an upgrade, but I don't think worth making a move from Auburn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on November 12, 2013, 09:30:48 AM
In my opinion it would be an upgrade, but I don't think worth making a move from Dead Trees.

Now that I could buy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on November 12, 2013, 10:28:47 AM
Florida isnt a better job than Auburn?????  :o
Not for Gus Malzahn. Why would he leave an SEC school with a recent NC that he gets credit for, and where all the fans worship him? If he was going to leave, why would he leave for a school in the same conference with higher expectations but less love for him, who has been building a team that is the opposite of what he is trying to do?

I'm not trying to defend Gus or say he won't hop jobs. If Texas or USC or maybe even someone like Michigan came after him I'd expect him to strongly consider it, or get a huge raise from Auburn. But not Florida, it doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on November 12, 2013, 10:31:14 AM
Not for Gus Malzahn. Why would he leave an SEC school with a recent NC that he gets credit for, and where all the fans worship him? If he was going to leave, why would he leave for a school in the same conference with higher expectations but less love for him, who has been building a team that is the opposite of what he is trying to do?

I'm not trying to defend Gus or say he won't hop jobs. If Texas or USC or maybe even someone like Michigan came after him I'd expect him to strongly consider it, or get a huge raise from Dead Trees. But not Florida, it doesn't make any sense.

No, I'll buy that...and if that is what the OP's were saying than I agree. But if someone without ties to either had a choice between the two schools, I would have to say that UF is a way better job than AU.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on November 12, 2013, 10:46:34 AM
Gainesville isn't that nice, at least in my opinion.

go ahead, and admit that its fact.  The Ocala/Gainesville metroplex is a complete shithole
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 12, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Well, right. That's logical enough.
You can't say he won't leave Dead Trees because he's not the type to job hop or whatever, though... because that's all he's done to this point in his career.

Then 90% of head coaches who take their first big HC job are job-hoppers then.  And which ones take their first head coaching job at a major top 25 university, then leave a year or two later on their own free will for another job that is mostly a lateral move?  Nobody. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on November 12, 2013, 11:19:27 AM
So I've been thinking things through here.
I don't think a new AD at Texas is going to want to be the guy who fires Mack and has to find a new coach in his first month on the job unless he can close on the Saban deal.  To my thinking, Mack stays one more year and declares next year his Swan song. I think UT's BOT is setting it up to happen this way.

FSU will run the score up on the Gators and Spurrier wouldn't hesitate to do so as well if he gets the chance.  I don't believe Boom survives that.

I do think Stoops survives but I can also see him heading to Gainesville...win for everyone.

So that leaves USC trying to convince Del Rio to come home and then the dominoes falling at Stanford or A&M if the NFL comes calling hard for two attractive looking coaches who also happen to be black.  The Dolphins will end up firing their coach over this shit, I think and Tampa Bay would probably cut Schiano loose as well.  Coughlin has to be thinking "retirement" at some point and THAT is a premium job with a 7 mil a year salary setup. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on November 12, 2013, 11:40:55 AM
Then 90% of head coaches who take their first big HC job are job-hoppers then.  And which ones take their first head coaching job at a major top 25 university, then leave a year or two later on their own free will for another job that is mostly a lateral move?  Nobody.

Well yeah, exactly. Except this isn't his first gig. Not sure what you mean by that.
Regardless, the fact is (regardless of circumstances) that at his first OC job in the SEC, he left a year later. His first HC gig, he left a year later. Absolutely nothing in his career suggests that he won't pack his bags again if a better job offer comes along. There's nothing wrong with that, it's his career. He'd be dumb not to at least listen.

Argue whether it's smart for him to leave for Florida or not, whether Florida is a better job or not, whether he would want to leave a roster he mostly helped put together for a slightly bigger salary, etc. But don't use the argument that he's the type to settle in and stay where he is, because nothing suggests that at all.

Frankly, I don't think he would leave unless somebody came at him with more money than Dead Trees would be willing to match... which I find very hard to believe. I think it's even ludicrous for folks to even consider that he might end up here in that realm.

I do think Florida is the better job though. Currently in the easier division, not in anybody else's shadow, arguably better recruiting ground and a bit higher profile nationally, in my eyes.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on November 12, 2013, 11:48:19 AM


I do think Florida is the better job though. Currently in the easier division, not in anybody else's shadow, arguably better recruiting ground and a bit higher profile nationally, in my eyes.
I'd say that's pretty debatable. Auburn's pretty close to those same recruiting grounds, and if a kid wants to stay in-state they have better options than Florida right now, so I'm not sure Florida has much of an advantage other than some kids that grew up as fans.

As far as a shadow...I'd say Jameis has a pretty large shadow right now.

Florida is definitely the higher profile nationally. Even with their recent NC they are mostly known for paying Cam and then falling off the map once he left, and will always be Alabama's little brother.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on November 12, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
I think most people see Florida as the better job, but I would disagree with them.  No one other than Spurrier and Meyer ever won dick there.  Half a dozen coaches have won big at Auburn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on November 12, 2013, 12:19:29 PM
I think most people see Florida as the better job, but I would disagree with them.  No one other than Spurrier and Meyer ever won dick there.  Half a dozen coaches have won big at Dead Trees.

True, but they've been the coaches there for the majority of the past two decades or so. Auburn only has that one title to show in that span...  and Tubberville's undefeated season, I guess.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 12, 2013, 10:35:28 PM

So that leaves USC trying to convince Del Rio to come home and then the dominoes falling at Stanford or A&M if the NFL comes calling hard for two attractive looking coaches who also happen to be black.

so you are insinuating A&M has a BLACK coach? ? ?  why I nevah... O0

go ahead, and admit that its fact.  The Ocala/Gainesville metroplex is a complete shithole

glad someone seconded that emotion.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on November 13, 2013, 06:27:40 AM
I live 35 miles Southwest of Ocala and about 75 from Gainesville, and I certainly don't feel that they are shitholes.

Every larger city has areas that are less than desirable, whether it be Little Rock, Memphis, Chicago, Minneapolis or Ocala/Gainesville.

Have never been to Auburn, AL, so I cannot speak for that area.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Dr. HawgLove on November 13, 2013, 07:01:55 AM
I have been to Auburn. It's a nice small southern town with a RTJ course. It does feel very isolated.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on November 23, 2013, 06:11:48 PM
FSU is going to run up the score on Florida, for about 99 different reasons.  I doubt Muschamp ever gets another chance to be a head coach. 

Kirby Smart will get some gig this year - either take over at Bama after Nick retires/leaves or heads to some non SEC head gig, maybe even Texas although I can't see them doing that.  Maybe A&M though.....
BMF ends up at Bama as their new DC under Saban or Smart. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Lurking Tiger on November 23, 2013, 10:06:16 PM
...I would have to say that UF is a way better job than AU.

Why would you say that ? I disagree, but I am biased. What do you base your opinion on ?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on November 23, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Why would you say that ? I disagree, but I am biased. What do you base your opinion on ?


The last 20 years
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 23, 2013, 10:09:00 PM
Why would you say that ? I disagree, but I am biased. What do you base your opinion on ?

maybe he has never been to Opelieka or Gainsville.  :-/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on November 23, 2013, 10:38:07 PM
Back when my teeth were much shorter, I'd venture to some Gator boards and have a field day.

Anyone looked? I bet the meltdown is glorious.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on November 23, 2013, 10:38:44 PM
David cutcliffe will coach at fla


He will take a shit on tennessee and ole miss as much as possible
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on November 23, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
David cutcliffe will coach at fla


He will take a shit on tennessee and ole miss as much as possible

The universe is too hilarious for this NOT to happen.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 23, 2013, 10:57:48 PM
David cutcliffe will coach at fla


He will take a shit on tennessee and ole miss as much as possible

after what he's done this year, i wouldn't be surprised to see him there, and it would be lovely.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on November 23, 2013, 10:59:12 PM
Why would you say that ? I disagree, but I am biased. What do you base your opinion on ?

Oh, nothing scientific, just my opinion. Just like Auburn is a better job than Arkansas. I think it's easier to win at UF than Auburn, you're the state school in a huge recruiting state, but you dont have the microscope that a school like Texas has.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snowman Slayer on November 23, 2013, 11:28:17 PM
I think most people see Florida as the better job, but I would disagree with them.  No one other than Spurrier and Meyer ever won dick there.  Half a dozen coaches have won big at Dead Trees.
Florida today is probably the better job and one of the biggest factors has to do with them inevitably sitting in the shadows of Nick Saban until he is raptured into the planar realm.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 24, 2013, 01:41:59 AM
Does Auburn have more undefeated seasons than Alabama and Florida combined in the last 20 years?

I think yes.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: I got squealz on November 24, 2013, 07:32:02 AM
So bama has 4 titles...florida has three, auburn has one and two undefeated seasons in those 20 years(three if you count bowden's ineligible team) ..auburns a better program??
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on November 24, 2013, 08:56:08 AM
So bama has 4 titles...florida has three, auburn has one and two undefeated seasons in those 20 years(three if you count bowden's ineligible team) ..auburns a better program??

I say it's a better program only because of the fans. Mike Shula, Ron Zook, and Muschamp would agree.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on November 24, 2013, 09:01:07 AM
I say it's a better program only because of the fans. Mike Shula, Ron Zook, and Muschamp would agree.

That is true
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on November 24, 2013, 12:46:21 PM
Auburn is not a better program than Bama or Florida. With all the other tarded threads going on here, I swear this could be nobville.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on November 24, 2013, 03:10:15 PM
Dead Trees is not a better program than Bama or Florida. With all the other tarded threads going on here, I swear this could be nobville.

Worse...Nobville Lite.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on November 24, 2013, 03:41:30 PM
Boom Motherfricker off the hot seat.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/24/report-muschamp-to-return-as-gators-coach-in-2014/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on November 24, 2013, 03:47:42 PM
Boom Motherfricker off the hot seat.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/24/report-muschamp-to-return-as-gators-coach-in-2014/

Nine million reasons why that's the case.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on November 24, 2013, 04:37:20 PM
Boom Motherfricker off the hot seat.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/24/report-muschamp-to-return-as-gators-coach-in-2014/

That report also tells me we don't have the worst offense in the SEC   ;D
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on November 25, 2013, 09:44:08 AM
Nine million reasons why that's the case.
He's going to fire his OC though. As bad as they have been, they have had almost everyone on their team get hurt so I'm not sure it's a bad decision to give him more time, especially with a new offensive staff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hognarok on November 26, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
Somewhat thread related:

http://www.theolympian.com/2013/11/26/2852078/wsu-ad-didnt-forget-nasty-emails.html

Quote
After one fan predicted in an email that “this will go down as one of the biggest disasters in coaching history and Leach will NEVER be a head coach again,” Moos forwarded the message to a colleague, along with his own acronym: NBT, short for “no bowl tickets.”

Moos’ message was clear: If you’re not with us now, you won’t be with us when we start winning.“

I answer all of those emails, then I send them to the Cougar Athletic Fund to see what their gift history is, and what their ticket purchase history is,” Moos said via telephone Monday as he drove back to Pullman from his ranch outside of Spokane. “Pretty amazing — about 85-90 percent of them are not members of the CAF.”

“I’ve got a no-bowl ticket file, and I want people on board and believing in what we’re doing, and trusting how we’re going about it. If they don’t want to be on the train, the train’s already pulled out of the station.”

TL;DR - Wash. St. AD took down names of people who sent insulting e-mails.  Those people make up a list of fans who won't get to buy bowl tickets through the school if/when the Cougars make a bowl.  They haven't gone to one since 2003 and they are 6-5 this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nighttrain on November 26, 2013, 01:01:48 PM
He's going to fire his OC though. As bad as they have been, they have had almost everyone on their team get hurt so I'm not sure it's a bad decision to give him more time, especially with a new offensive staff.

Quote
Florida has pinned its problems on a slew of injuries. But that excuse doesn't work against Georgia Southern, which has won three in a row and played without 19 of 65 scholarship athletes.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=333270057
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on November 26, 2013, 01:16:51 PM
Reading about Florida's problems makes me cringe even more knowing we really probably should have beaten them, Rutgers, and MSU. Florida plays the type of style we are headed for and are finding the transition to be difficult...and they have the assets of talent in-state to pick from as a major aid. Boom may just not be that good as a head coach, no doubt they've had some bad injuries but one would think at Florida they'd have capable backups.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on November 26, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Reading about Florida's problems makes me cringe even more knowing we really probably should have beaten them, Frosted Tips University, and MSU. Florida plays the type of style we are headed for and are finding the transition to be difficult...and they have the assets of talent in-state to pick from as a major aid. Boom may just not be that good as a head coach, no doubt they've had some bad injuries but one would think at Florida they'd have capable backups.

Beating Florida would've been the equivalent to Petrino beating Auburn in his first year.
They were not as decimated by injuries when we played them as they are now. That's definitely a game I'd like to be playing over again this week.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on November 26, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Somewhat thread related:

http://www.theolympian.com/2013/11/26/2852078/wsu-ad-didnt-forget-nasty-emails.html

TL;DR - Wash. St. AD took down names of people who sent insulting e-mails.  Those people make up a list of fans who won't get to buy bowl tickets through the school if/when the Cougars make a bowl.  They haven't gone to one since 2003 and they are 6-5 this year.

i wonder if its the same around here.   :hmmm:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on November 26, 2013, 03:06:55 PM
i wonder if its the same around here.   :hmmm:

We're a long way from 6-5.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on November 26, 2013, 03:07:29 PM
We're a long way from 6-5.
:rofl:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on November 26, 2013, 03:58:15 PM
We're a long way from 6-5.

Communist
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 26, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
So bama has 4 titles...florida has three, Dead Trees has one and two undefeated seasons in those 20 years(three if you count bowden's ineligible team) ..auburns a better program??

Is that what I or anyone else said? 

I swear, reading comprehension has reached an all time low around here since April 2011.
Dead Trees is not a better program than Bama or Florida. With all the other tarded threads going on here, I swear this could be nobville.

Could be close enough to equal to back up the original point. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: snoots on November 26, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
We're a long way from 6-5.

NBT
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on November 27, 2013, 07:35:26 AM
He's going to fire his OC though. As bad as they have been, they have had almost everyone on their team get hurt so I'm not sure it's a bad decision to give him more time, especially with a new offensive staff.

They should concentrate on getting smarter, less color blind players.

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10041972&src=desktop

That video made me L out L.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on November 29, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
Bo Pelini just went Nolan Richardson.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on November 29, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
Bo Pelini just went Nolan Richardson.

Minus the winning, of course.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on November 29, 2013, 03:53:18 PM
Bo Pelini just went Nolan Richardson.

I wonder if the AD goes full Broyles.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on November 29, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
Bo Pelini just went Nolan Richardson.
And it was beautiful.  I love seeing this at Nebraska.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on November 29, 2013, 04:09:25 PM
I wonder if the AD goes full Broyles.

Forgets who his children are?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on November 29, 2013, 04:16:41 PM
Hey, Hey, Hey

(http://media.arkansasonline.com/img/photos/2013/09/23/NUTT004-1_t598.jpg?b7052f07a6139e7088ebc43100469802b2560d37)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on November 29, 2013, 04:21:48 PM
Oh boy, he would be great in Lincoln.  Get on that plane.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on November 29, 2013, 04:23:35 PM
Oh boy, he would be great in Lincoln.  Get on that plane.

Yep, it's time for him to get back to the game he loves. No other game in the world like it.

The Big 10 is at least a two chinstrap league.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on November 29, 2013, 04:34:19 PM
Yep, it's time for him to get back to the game he loves. No other game in the world like it.

The Big 10 is at least a two chinstrap league.

It is about the speed Danny is used to.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Porkrinds on November 29, 2013, 06:06:36 PM
I wonder if the AD goes full Broyles.

Doubt it... like 25M buyout between Bo and his staff. He's in a nice position to talk plenty of shit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: gambler on November 29, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
Hey, Hey, Hey

(http://media.arkansasonline.com/img/photos/2013/09/23/NUTT004-1_t598.jpg?b7052f07a6139e7088ebc43100469802b2560d37)
There's only one Cornhusker.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ob Gyn Kenobi on November 29, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
Doubt it... like 25M buyout between Bo and his staff. He's in a nice position to talk plenty of aMm.

They must have had a real dumb-ass negotiate those contracts for the university. Pelini has never produced at a high enough level to need this much buy out to keep other programs away.

Jeebus. Who would ever want that puss as a HC anyway?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on November 29, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
There's only one Cornhusker.

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on November 30, 2013, 01:21:32 AM
There's only one Cornhusker.

Throw in some HNIII and the jokes endlessly write themselves.
 
It's what I want for Christmas from woopig jesus.

 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on November 30, 2013, 07:17:50 AM
Hey, Hey, Hey

(http://media.arkansasonline.com/img/photos/2013/09/23/NUTT004-1_t598.jpg?b7052f07a6139e7088ebc43100469802b2560d37)

It will never happen. It's not a 2 chin strap conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on November 30, 2013, 08:21:16 AM
Oh yes, the real entertainment season starts now. We are so bad that I don't think we have any of our assistants voluntarily leave. Unless BB fires one or two guys that just haven't worked I'd say we won't see any changes.

Maybe Partridge or a couple other guys that have enough of a rep to get another gig but most of these guys I feel are committed to being here like it or not.

We get to focus on recruiting in crunch time with a fully assembled staff for the first time in three years. I'm hoping we finally see an uptick in landing dudes instead of losing out.

I guess if I had a wish list in general terms I'd say we need an upgrade at QB coach but the way the staff is set up with Chaney as OC/QBC we won't see that happen anyways soon. I think maybe BB understands a lot better now what it will take to win in this league. It starts with the trenches on both sides of the ball, and second would be a key focus on the QB position, third being Speed and lots of it. I think BB really thought he could solve the trenches and the rest would take care of itself. It won't.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on November 30, 2013, 08:36:34 AM
Oh yes, the real entertainment season starts now. We are so bad that I don't think we have any of our assistants voluntarily leave. Unless BB fires one or two guys that just haven't worked I'd say we won't see any changes.

Maybe Partridge or a couple other guys that have enough of a rep to get another gig but most of these guys I feel are committed to being here like it or not.

We get to focus on recruiting in crunch time with a fully assembled staff for the first time in three years. I'm hoping we finally see an uptick in landing dudes instead of losing out.

I guess if I had a wish list in general terms I'd say we need an upgrade at QB coach but the way the staff is set up with Chaney as OC/QBC we won't see that happen anyways soon. I think maybe BB understands a lot better now what it will take to win in this league. It starts with the trenches on both sides of the ball, and second would be a key focus on the QB position, third being Speed and lots of it. I think BB really thought he could solve the trenches and the rest would take care of itself. It won't.

There are pieces in place to have a competent offense.  The two freshmen starters on the o-line will have a year of strength training and experience behind them going into next year.  What has to happen is for one or two of the young guys to step up and help Hatcher at WR, and one of the two freshmen (three counting Peavey I guess) needs to step up and take the QB position away from BA.  Allen played pretty well yesterday for him, but that kind of performance needs to be the average as opposed to the best game we get from our QB in a season. 

I don't see any quick fix coming for the defense.  Our backup defensive line from this year looks solid, but without Smith, Jones, and Thomas we're going to need some guys who haven't done much step up and provide depth.  The fact that no one beat out Eric Bennett this season scares the hell out of me regarding the future of our secondary.  The young corners show some promise, but with a lazy ass/ dumb ass playing behind them as insurance against the deep ball they are going to continue to get exposed the way Collins was on the winning play yesterday.  Turner showed some flashes late in the year, but he's still got a long way to go. 

We'll be doing well to get to six wins next year.  Hopefully without Lynch Northern Illinois will fall back to being a rent-a-win.  Texas Tech won't be easy in Lubbock.  We may have to win four SEC games to get to a bowl.  That may be a bit much to ask of this group.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on November 30, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
There are pieces in place to have a competent offense.  The two freshmen starters on the o-line will have a year of strength training and experience behind them going into next year.  What has to happen is for one or two of the young guys to step up and help Hatcher at WR, and one of the two freshmen (three counting Peavey I guess) needs to step up and take the QB position away from BA.  Allen played pretty well yesterday for him, but that kind of performance needs to be the average as opposed to the best game we get from our QB in a season. 

I don't see any quick fix coming for the defense.  Our backup defensive line from this year looks solid, but without Smith, Jones, and Thomas we're going to need some guys who haven't done much step up and provide depth.  The fact that no one beat out Eric Bennett this season scares the Starkville out of me regarding the future of our secondary.  The young corners show some promise, but with a lazy ass/ dumb ass playing behind them as insurance against the deep ball they are going to continue to get exposed the way Collins was on the winning play yesterday.  Turner showed some flashes late in the year, but he's still got a long way to go. 

We'll be doing well to get to six wins next year.  Hopefully without Lynch Northern Illinois will fall back to being a rent-a-win.  Texas Tech won't be easy in Lubbock.  We may have to win four SEC games to get to a bowl.  That may be a bit much to ask of this group.

I saw a tweet say that Deandre Cooley has put on like 30lbs working with Herbert, which would put him in that 205 to 210 range as a playing weight I'm guessing. I assume he is our replacement for Bennett. We really need basically everyone who redshirted this season to come in and be contributors next season and there are certainly a few like Cooley, the kid from Hawaii on the o line, and of course both freshman quarterbacks have to give us something.

I'm holding out hope that most of our juco flops from this season can regain some serviceability for next season...we need that too. That seems to be the norm with jucos, we get a decent senior season out of them. Tavares, Spaight, Washington, and Coleman need to come up to speed.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on November 30, 2013, 08:56:33 AM
I saw a tweet say that Deandre Cooley has put on like 30lbs working with Herbert, which would put him in that 205 to 210 range as a playing weight I'm guessing. I assume he is our replacement for Bennett. We really need basically everyone who redshirted this season to come in and be contributors next season and there are certainly a few like Cooley, the kid from Hawaii on the o line, and of course both freshman quarterbacks have to give us something.

I'm holding out hope that most of our juco flops from this season can regain some serviceability for next season...we need that too. That seems to be the norm with jucos, we get a decent senior season out of them. Tavares, Spaight, Washington, and Coleman need to come up to speed.

Apparently they are giving serious consideration to a JUCO OLB who played a lot at Alabama as a true freshman but had a nasty habit of helping rob other students.  Normally I'd say let him go to Ole Miss or some other thug landing spot, but as badly as we need help at that position I might reconsider.  He's not the normal JUCO that went that route because he was borderline retarded or wasn't good enough to play big time ball out of high school. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on November 30, 2013, 10:14:38 AM
Is there anyway Florida doesn't get drilled by 30+ today? I know we went winless but 3rd year and stacked with talent, I can't believe he keeps his job after this season.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on November 30, 2013, 11:42:44 AM
Apparently they are giving serious consideration to a JUCO OLB who played a lot at Alabama as a true freshman but had a nasty habit of helping rob other students. 

Maybe he could play QB at Auburn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on November 30, 2013, 12:26:09 PM
Is there anyway Florida doesn't get drilled by 30+ today? I know we went winless but 3rd year and stacked with talent, I can't believe he keeps his job after this season.

I would rather be in our position (sucking in year one) than Florida's position (sucking in year three).
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on November 30, 2013, 12:39:38 PM
Is there anyway Florida doesn't get drilled by 30+ today? I know we went winless but 3rd year and stacked with talent, I can't believe he keeps his job after this season.

no doubt, everyone talks about injuries but holy crap - how can you NOT have recruited depth at Florida?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RazorbackDad on November 30, 2013, 08:40:45 PM
Alabama may have a Special Teams position available.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on November 30, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
Shoot Bama fans will be calling for Saban to be fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DaveIsNotMyName on November 30, 2013, 08:50:13 PM
Well, most of the Rutgers staff is gone after today. Just a matter of when.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boomer_sooie on November 30, 2013, 09:00:21 PM
Yep, it's time for him to get back to the game he loves. No other game in the world like it.

The Big 10 is at least a two chinstrap league.

Don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but the Oklahoma sports radio peeps have said that nutt  said he really wants to coaching one more go.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on December 01, 2013, 12:52:59 AM
Don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but the Oklahoma sports radio peeps have said that nutt  said he really wants to coaching one more go.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 01, 2013, 01:04:14 AM
I wonder how long Garrick McGee will last.

2-10 this year and they lost to USM, who hadn't won a game in 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on December 01, 2013, 01:30:43 AM
I wonder how long Garrick McGee will last.

2-10 this year and they lost to USM, who hadn't won a game in 2 seasons.

And 5-18 overall....he can't be around much longer.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 01, 2013, 09:16:12 AM
He's black in a Memphis like city. I bet he lasts another year or two.  :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 01, 2013, 09:54:03 AM
I wonder how long Garrick McGee will last.

2-10 this year and they lost to USM, who hadn't won a game in 2 seasons.

Their previous hc won 18 games in 5 years so he will probably be ok.  Their ad was probably smart enough to not give him an 8 figure buyout though so they can move on if they want to
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: onetimer on December 01, 2013, 09:54:42 AM
He's black in a Memphis like city.

Wait, what? I think you have Birmingham confused with Montgomery.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on December 01, 2013, 10:37:23 AM
Wait, what? I think you have Birmingham confused with Montgomery.

Exactly.  It's Midnight in Montgomery, but you have Breakfast in Birmingham.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 01, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
I wonder how long Garrick McGee will last.

2-10 this year and they lost to USM, who hadn't won a game in 2 seasons.

but doesn't he get 5 years?  If that's what bielemma gets, don't other coaches need the same?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 01, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
I'd take Garrick back as QB corch if he does get canned. I bet he will be in demand as an assistant in the sec. UAB wasn't a good job for any coach to take so it's not surprising that he's having difficulty elevating that program. I'm sure it doesn't help him in recruiting that the BMFP legacy is toast...he can't point to that success and really have it carry much weight. Our brief time of ascension will be a fading memory to a lot of 17 year olds in short order.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 01, 2013, 03:18:25 PM
@McMurphyESPN: Iowa State OC/QB coach Courtney Messingham & RB coach Kenith Pope fired

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 01, 2013, 03:29:14 PM
Who are the first college coaches fired after the 2013 season?

I'll take college coaches fired for $400 Alex?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 01, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Florida fired their OC and OL coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 01, 2013, 03:48:50 PM
Florida fired their OC and OL coach.

he should hire Mangino
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 01, 2013, 03:50:59 PM
@McMurphyESPN: Wyoming's Dave Christensen has 5 p.m. ET meeting w/AD where he will be fired source told @ESPN. 1st reported by @footballscoop

Another shocker
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 01, 2013, 03:53:04 PM
Florida fired their OC and OL coach.

I think Muschamp gets another year.  Probably replaces an asst or two.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on December 01, 2013, 03:53:34 PM
@McMurphyESPN: Wyoming's Dave Christensen has 5 p.m. ET meeting w/AD where he will be fired source told @ESPN. 1st reported by @footballscoop

Another shocker
 

Sounds like a good place for Petrino. He can hang out there for a couple of years until a Pac12 job opens up.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 01, 2013, 04:00:46 PM
 

Sounds like a good place for Petrino. He can hang out there for a couple of years until a Pac12 job opens up.

Just spit balling but would Bryan Harsin jump all over that gig? Might not be enough of an upgrade in pay. He could ride out another year at ASU, get to ten wins or so and flip it for a Big 12 or SEC gig like Freeze and Malzahn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 01, 2013, 04:36:20 PM
I'd take Garrick back as QB corch if he does get canned. I bet he will be in demand as an assistant in the sec. UAB wasn't a good job for any coach to take so it's not surprising that he's having difficulty elevating that program. I'm sure it doesn't help him in recruiting that the BMFP legacy is toast...he can't point to that success and really have it carry much weight. Our brief time of ascension will be a fading memory to a lot of 17 year olds in short order.

As long as Long is AD McGee will not be here. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: jeb stuart on December 01, 2013, 05:18:47 PM
As long as Long is AD McGee will not be here.

I have seen multiple instances where it was alluded that McGee was involved in something untawdry but never has it been put out there that I'm aware of. What gives?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: oddi on December 01, 2013, 05:28:40 PM
As long as Long is AD McGee will not be here.

You think Long would put his personal feelings about a coach above what might be best for the football program?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 01, 2013, 05:30:37 PM
I have seen multiple instances where it was alluded that McGee was involved in something untawdry but never has it been put out there that I'm aware of. What gives?

My understanding has always been that Garrick LOVED volleyball too.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: razor9 on December 01, 2013, 05:53:35 PM
I have seen multiple instances where it was alluded that McGee was involved in something untawdry but never has it been put out there that I'm aware of. What gives?
He was bangin' the now divorced gymnast coach

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 01, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
but doesn't he get 5 years?  If that's what bielemma gets, don't other coaches need the same?

I usually subscribe to RMPL, but this is the dumbest fricking thing I have read on the internet in a long time. 
Jesus H, I've been around here for a long time and I swear bullshit like this is beneath this place.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on December 01, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
I usually subscribe to RMPL, but this is the dumbest fricking thing I have read on the internet in a long time. 
Jesus H, I've been around here for a long time and I swear bullshit like this is beneath this place.

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(sarcasm)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 01, 2013, 06:29:15 PM
You're right.  I won't contribute to another thread getting douched up by darksider discussions.  Proceed.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on December 01, 2013, 06:40:18 PM
You're right.  I won't contribute to another thread getting douched up by darksider discussions.  Proceed.

Just fucking with you, man.  Small font was too small?

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 01, 2013, 06:52:01 PM
You're right.  I won't contribute to another thread getting douched up by darksider discussions.  Proceed.
Actually your post just reinforces how ridiculous some of this thread is.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 01, 2013, 07:20:34 PM
Just fricking with you, man.  Small font was too small?
I got it. Maybe I just need to only read basketball threads and Crapola for awhile.  I swear, not being in the Arkansas talk radio market is a blessing.
It's not just Arkansas radio that's full of idiocy though. 
Hokie Gajean and Bobby Hebert=Randy Rainwater and whatevermoronisontherenow.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 01, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
I got it. Maybe I just need to only read basketball threads and Crapola for awhile.  I swear, not being in the Arkansas talk radio market is a blessing.
It's not just Arkansas radio that's full of idiocy though. 
Hokie Gajean and Bobby Hebert=Randy Rainwater and whatevermoronisontherenow.

I love listening to Hokie and Hebert after a Saints win...but that's the only time I tune in.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: cotte on December 01, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
I love listening to Hokie and Hebert after a Saints win...but that's the only time I tune in.

We have a big game tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on December 01, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
I wonder how long Garrick McGee will last.

2-10 this year and they lost to USM, who hadn't won a game in 2 seasons.

they didn't just lose to USM, they got blowed out...

The Golden Eagles (1-11, 1-7 Conference USA) trailed by eight points at the start of the third quarter. Mullens led a 28-0 rally with three touchdown passes and a 1-yard touchdown rush to put Southern Miss ahead by 20 points at the start of the fourth. He threw for 370 yards.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/gameflash/2013/11/30/52562/index.html#ixzz2mHUSvH3l
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on December 01, 2013, 09:15:53 PM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/01/report-usc-coaching-search-focusing-on-chris-peterson-james-franklin/

ESPN’s Joe Schad is reporting on Sunday night that USC has decided against elevating interim coach Ed Orgeron and is instead focused on Boise State coach Chris Petersen and Vanderbilt coach James Franklin as its primary candidates to fill the school’s head coaching position.

According to the report, the Trojans have made it known to Orgeron that they would like to keep him on staff in some capacity. USC was defeated 35-14 by rival UCLA this past Saturday, thus puncturing his chances at the head job.

Petersen is 92-12 in his eight seasons at Boise State head coach and has twice been named the Bear Bryant Coach of the Year.

Franklin has done wonders at Vanderbilt, building a once-downtrodden program to the point where bowls berths are expected rather than scoffed at. He is 23-15 in his three seasons there.

Between the two, Petersen might be the best fit at USC and would be the biggest splash hire, though Franklin’s ability to compete in the SEC is also an intriguing point in his favor.

It’s likely that the Trojans will announce a head coach before this week is out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: razor9 on December 01, 2013, 09:51:27 PM
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/threads/rumor-major-applewhite-new-oc-jimbo-fisher-to-texas.279910/

Major Applewhite new OC, Jimbo Fisher to Texas
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: cotte on December 01, 2013, 09:55:39 PM
http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/threads/rumor-major-applewhite-new-oc-jimbo-fisher-to-texas.279910/

Major Applewhite new OC, Jimbo Fisher to Texas

Florida wishes Jimbo would leave. I do not see that happening.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: gambler on December 01, 2013, 09:57:32 PM
Florida wishes Jimbo would leave. I do not see that happening.
I don't either. That team is loaded.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 01, 2013, 10:28:44 PM
Didn't see it posted but Sumlin's new deal is supposed to be for 5 million a year.

Sources tell ESPN Senior NFL Insider Chris Mortensen that Sumlin has agreed to forsake NFL bids as part of his new contract. The sources said Sumlin's new $5 million-per-year deal guarantees him to coach the Aggies until the school has completed and played in its $450 million renovation of Kyle Field, which is set to open in 2015.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10057549/texas-aggies-give-kevin-sumlin-new-contract-2019
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 01, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
Didn't see it posted but Sumlin's new deal is supposed to be for 5 million a year.

Sources tell ESPN Senior NFL Insider Chris Mortensen that Sumlin has agreed to forsake NFL bids as part of his new contract. The sources said Sumlin's new $5 million-per-year deal guarantees him to coach the Aggies until the school has completed and played in its $450 million renovation of Kyle Field, which is set to open in 2015.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10057549/texas-aggies-give-kevin-sumlin-new-contract-2019
Wonder how those Aggies will feel after going from 11 wins last year to 8 (maybe 9) wins this year to less than that next year when there's no Johnny Football to bail out that 100+ rated defense? $5mil per year for Sumlin? That's the most Aggie thing I've seen all year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 01, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
I love listening to Hokie and Hebert after a Saints win...but that's the only time I tune in.

Wow, to each their own, but they are like nails on a chalkboard.  To those in Arkansas, Bobby Hebert after a game is like Forrest City Joe after a bottle of Early Times, only with an annoyingly folksy, Cajun accent.  My seats are right underneath his booth where he calls the game, so I hear that fucker the whole time.  Awful.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 02, 2013, 01:07:30 AM
Wonder how those Aggies will feel after going from 11 wins last year to 8 (maybe 9) wins this year to less than that next year when there's no Johnny Football to bail out that 100+ rated defense? $5mil per year for Sumlin? That's the most Aggie thing I've seen all year.

This will not end well for them. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 02, 2013, 07:09:23 AM
puncturing his chances at the head job.


Oh man, I know that feeling...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 02, 2013, 10:17:55 AM
@schadjoe: Boise State's Chris Petersen has withdrawn from USC coaching search after mutual interest.

SHOCKER


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 10:23:44 AM
I think Petersen could end up at Texas, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 02, 2013, 10:55:08 AM
@schadjoe: Boise State's Chris Petersen has withdrawn from USC coaching search after mutual interest.

SHOCKER


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People need to stop offering that man a job.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 11:12:35 AM
People need to stop offering that man a job.
He turns down USC and Texas this offseason, they would have to.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 02, 2013, 11:16:46 AM
Wonder how those Aggies will feel after going from 11 wins last year to 8 (maybe 9) wins this year to less than that next year when there's no Johnny Football to bail out that 100+ rated defense? $5mil per year for Sumlin? That's the most Aggie thing I've seen all year.
I was with some hardcore aggies this past weekend, and it was interesting. They actually love Manziel which kind of surprised me. Their only problem was that he is elevated above the rest of the team which is against the aggie spirit or something. I'd think his Longhorn tattoo would be the bigger offense but apparently not.

They actually think he'll come back next year, and their defense will be better, and they will have a better year than they have this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 02, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
Sumlin is a tremendous offensive coach, so if they could get their defense to show up, I think they could win at least 8 games without Manziel.  But I heard (don't know if it's true) that Adams could leave this year as well, which may hurt them more.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 02, 2013, 11:21:49 AM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/01/report-usc-coaching-search-focusing-on-chris-peterson-james-franklin/

ESPN’s Joe Schad is reporting on Sunday night that USC has decided against elevating interim coach Ed Orgeron and is instead focused on Boise State coach Chris Petersen and Vanderbilt coach James Franklin as its primary candidates to fill the school’s head coaching position.

According to the report, the Trojans have made it known to Orgeron that they would like to keep him on staff in some capacity. USC was defeated 35-14 by rival UCLA this past Saturday, thus puncturing his chances at the head job.

Petersen is 92-12 in his eight seasons at Boise State head coach and has twice been named the Bear Bryant Coach of the Year.

Franklin has done wonders at Vanderbilt, building a once-downtrodden program to the point where bowls berths are expected rather than scoffed at. He is 23-15 in his three seasons there.

Between the two, Petersen might be the best fit at USC and would be the biggest splash hire, though Franklin’s ability to compete in the SEC is also an intriguing point in his favor.

It’s likely that the Trojans will announce a head coach before this week is out.

 I hope Orgeron has a hot wife to impress Pit Bull, to keep his job.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 02, 2013, 11:22:26 AM
Wonder how those Aggies will feel after going from 11 wins last year to 8 (maybe 9) wins this year to less than that next year when there's no Johnny Football to bail out that 100+ rated defense? $5mil per year for Sumlin? That's the most Aggie thing I've seen all year.

The Aggies are just righting their financial ship after digging themselves deep in debt with an awful contract to Franchione and some bad decisions on facility construction, including basketball.  They had an athletic budget in the red in consecutive years just a few years ago.

Sumlin flirted with USC, and now aTm just ponied up $5 mil a year for a guy that went 8-4 in Year 2 with the best player in CFB and quite a bit of talent across the offense. Huge risk there.

Meanwhile attendance is down everywhere including the SEC and they're spending $450 million, virtually all of which is in bonded debt, to add 30,000 seats and upgrade their stadium.  What they AREN'T spending money on is upgrading their ancillary facilities for football players the way the rest of CFB including us seem to be doing.

Fools.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 02, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Sumlin is a tremendous offensive coach...

Is he?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on December 02, 2013, 11:23:41 AM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/chris-petersen-reportedly-withdraws-name-from-usc-coach-search/

Washington’s Steve Sarkisian also interviewed, although the UW coach said “USC reached out to him but he did NOT interview for the job” according to local radio reports.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 02, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/02/chris-petersen-reportedly-withdraws-name-from-usc-coach-search/

Washington’s Steve Sarkisian also interviewed, although the UW coach said “USC reached out to him but he did NOT interview for the job” according to local radio reports.

Looks like it's Sarkisian.  UW is having a previously unscheduled team meeting at 2:00 and the UW Rivals sight is saying he's gone.

EDIT... He gone.

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
Steve Sarkisian has accepted the USC head coaching position
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 01:13:18 PM
Reading rumors already about it... not sure how serious they are, but...
Does Petersen end up at UW now?

I mean...  I can see that, I guess. Brand new facilities.

Seems absurd that a coach would turn down USC then go to UW, but Petersen hasn't exactly fit the mold of those Boise St coaches before him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 02, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
That's who I heard it would probably be when Kiffin was left off the bus.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
To me, the wacky part is...  I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Sark is over Orgeron at this point.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 02, 2013, 01:20:10 PM
To me, the wacky part is...  I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Sark is over Orgeron at this point.

It definitely looks like this was a backup plan for USC. I know Sark took over a total mess at UW, but this was year 5 and they just now improved 1 win over year 2.

2009   Washington   5–7   4–5   7th   
2010   Washington   7–6   5–4   T–3rd
2011   Washington   7–6   5–4   3rd (North)   
2012   Washington   7–6   5–4   4th (North)
2013   Washington   8–4   5–4   3rd (North)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
It definitely looks like this was a backup plan for USC. I know Sark took over a total mess at UW, but this was year 5 and they just now improved 1 win over year 2.

2009   Washington   5–7   4–5   7th   
2010   Washington   7–6   5–4   T–3rd
2011   Washington   7–6   5–4   3rd (North)   
2012   Washington   7–6   5–4   4th (North)
2013   Washington   8–4   5–4   3rd (North)

For the record, I think Sark will do fine at USC... but put me in the camp that thought Orgeron would do just fine there too. The continuity might be a little undervalued there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 02, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
Didn't hire Malzarn--They're fucked.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 01:32:48 PM
Washington is bringing a lot of kids back. Sark's leaving them in great shape. They could potentially come out of this with a better coach.

Great facilities, great city. That's a very attractive job opening right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 02, 2013, 01:33:56 PM
From what USC fans on other boards are saying, Orgeron will be staying as asst. HC.

So they get best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 01:37:45 PM
Now this is interesting.

Colorado Mines Bob Stitt Interested in Wyoming Job (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_24638788/bob-stitt-colorado-mines-interested-wyoming-football-job)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 02, 2013, 01:44:36 PM
To me, the wacky part is...  I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Sark is over Orgeron at this point.

agreed but one (Sark) is USC family
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 02, 2013, 01:48:45 PM
agreed but one (Sark) is USC family

And Coach O isn't?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 02:00:47 PM
agreed but one (Sark) is USC family

Orgeron has coached there much longer than Sarkisian has. Neither went to school there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 02, 2013, 02:30:47 PM
From what USC fans on other boards are saying, Orgeron will be staying as asst. HC.

So they get best of both worlds.

Sounds like Coach O has turned in his resignation. I'm sure USC will try to convince him to stay, but you can't blame him for leaving after basically being told he's not good enough to be the HC.

Elsewhere, Jim Grobe has resigned at Wake Forest per Brett McMurphy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 02, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
Sounds like Coach O has turned in his resignation. I'm sure USC will try to convince him to stay, but you can't blame him for leaving after basically being told he's not good enough to be the HC.

Elsewhere, Jim Grobe has resigned at Wake Forest per Brett McMurphy.
Would Coach O work in Fayetteville?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on December 02, 2013, 02:32:26 PM
Be awesome if Washington hires Coach O.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 02, 2013, 02:55:59 PM
USC hires Sarkisian

Jim Grobe resigns at Wake Forest

Interesting day, so far.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 02, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
Bielema ought to hire O simply for the recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 03:03:58 PM
Bielema ought to hire O simply for the recruiting.
To do what.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 02, 2013, 03:05:29 PM
Bielema ought to hire O simply for the recruiting.
I believe he has been a proven recruiter.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 02, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
To do what.

Recruit badasses that can win. He made Nutt look halfway decent in the SEC for two years at Ole Miss.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 02, 2013, 03:07:50 PM
Recruit badasses that can win. He made Nutt look halfway decent in the SEC for two years at Ole Miss.

Do you want to get rid of Partridge or Shannon?  Because one would have to go to make room for Orgeron.

He's not a fit with the Hogs.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
Do you want to get rid of Partridge or Shannon?  Because one would have to go to make room for Orgeron.

He's not a fit with the Hogs.

Right, we've got a highly respected DL coach that is known to be one of the better recruiters in his own right.
Not sure where one would fit Orgeron on this staff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogggdadi on December 02, 2013, 03:13:12 PM
To do what.



yo yo yo yo yo, yo yo , yo yo, foobaw
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 02, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Are some assistant football coaches just knowledgeable at one position or do many have enough of a grasp on the total game to go from line coach to defensive back or running backs, special teams, etc.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 03:16:40 PM
Are some assistant football coaches just knowledgeable at one position or do many have enough of a grasp on the total game to go from line coach to defensive back or running backs, special teams, etc.

Well... I mean, I think football coaches specialize in certain positions for a reason.
Who are you looking at replacing on this staff? Why?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: cotte on December 02, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
Now this is interesting.

Colorado Mines Bob Stitt Interested in Wyoming Job (http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_24638788/bob-stitt-colorado-mines-interested-wyoming-football-job)

What is interesting about that?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogggdadi on December 02, 2013, 03:18:27 PM
Well... I mean, I think football coaches specialize in certain positions for a reason.
Who are you looking at replacing on this staff? Why?

I think Taver J isn't lighting the world up as a secondary coach. 

maybe coach O can teach them how to play cover 2.

Yo yo yo cover2.  aigh?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 02, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
Jim Grobe resigns at Wake Forest


Offered the Razorback job, accepted the Razorback job, and then backed out wanting to be loyal to Wake Forest.  See what that "loyalty" got you Coach Grobe?

Unemployed is the answer you're looking for Jim.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 02, 2013, 03:20:47 PM
I think Taver J isn't lighting the world up as a secondary coach. 

maybe coach O can teach them how to play cover 2.

Yo yo yo cover2.  aigh?

Johnson was the lead recruiter on the top 100 defensive tackle that committed about half an hour ago.

Only person I want to replace on this staff is Chaney, and I doubt that happens if he was spending 5 hours at Peavey's house a day or two ago.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 02, 2013, 03:21:39 PM
Well... I mean, I think football coaches specialize in certain positions for a reason.
Who are you looking at replacing on this staff? Why?
No one in my mind.  I just asked a question.  I think the last thing Bielema should do is chance the staff prematurely, unless someone leaves on their own.

Oregeron was mentioned and I wondered about if someone left, could things get shuffled, or even if there should be any interest.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 02, 2013, 03:22:37 PM
I'm shocked about Grobe resigning.  His AD's expectations have been pretty low.  I thought he'd be there for a few more years but maybe he is a good guy and knows when it's time to hang it up for the fan's sake.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 03:35:33 PM
What is interesting about that?

Google him up.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/10/29/bob-stitt-fly-sweep-colorado-school-of-mines-college-football-offense/1659819/

One of the more innovative offensive minds out there.  Has been at Colorado Mines for years.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 02, 2013, 03:36:48 PM
Johnson was the lead recruiter on the top 100 defensive tackle that committed about half an hour ago.

Only person I want to replace on this staff is Chaney, and I doubt that happens if he was spending 5 hours at Peavey's house a day or two ago.

It's great that we got a commit from a good player but I'm just not going to get too excited about a 2015 commit right now.  I'm going to wait and see who signs this year before proclaiming someone a very good recruiter.  Over the years seems like we lose more than our fair share of top early recruits.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: cotte on December 02, 2013, 03:39:54 PM
Orgeron said fuck that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
Re: Taver Johnson.
He was well-respected as a top-notch recruiter at Ohio State.
I think we also forget he hasn't really been here as long as we might think either.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 02, 2013, 03:47:05 PM
Re: Taver Johnson.
He was well-respected as a top-notch recruiter at Ohio State.
I think we also forget he hasn't really been here as long as we might think either.

Yup.  I'm not really sure what there is to gripe about position coach-wise.  Bielema assembled a pretty awesome staff. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: authorhawgerelli on December 02, 2013, 03:57:35 PM
Re: Taver Johnson.
He was well-respected as a top-notch recruiter at Ohio State.
I think we also forget he hasn't really been here as long as we might think either.

Cleaning up after 5 or 6 years of the only holdover from the Housto.n N.utt staff tutelage.  Ended up playing lots of true freshmen. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 02, 2013, 04:24:51 PM
Right, we've got a highly respected DL coach that is known to be one of the better recruiters in his own right.
Not sure where one would fit Orgeron on this staff.

There isn't enough whiskey in Fayetteville for both Bielema and Orgeron to be there at the same time.

It's only a matter of time before they take off their shirts and wrestle in the BAC parking lot. 

I don't really want to see that.  Nobody does.

I'm fine with this staff.  Sure, I'd take Orgeron for Lunney if he can coach TEs.  Maybe we could just hire Trooper Taylor and let him wave towels and the WR coach could handle the TEs.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 02, 2013, 04:35:25 PM
There isn't enough whiskey in Fayetteville for both Bielema and Orgeron to be there at the same time.

It's only a matter of time before they take off their shirts and wrestle in the BAC parking lot. 

I don't really want to see that.  Nobody does.

I'm fine with this staff.  Sure, I'd take Orgeron for Lunney if he can coach TEs.  Maybe we could just hire Trooper Taylor and let him wave towels and the WR coach could handle the TEs.

Hiring Taylor would be amazing.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 02, 2013, 04:37:35 PM
No one in my mind.  I just asked a question.  I think the last thing Bielema should do is chance the staff prematurely, unless someone leaves on their own.

Oregeron was mentioned and I wondered about if someone left, could things get shuffled, or even if there should be any interest.

You can't just ask a question of Coalboar.  You could ask him if he wanted you to pick him up any bananas at the store, and he'd ask you what you had against apples and then give you 20 reasons why apples are better than bananas.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 02, 2013, 04:37:47 PM
Maybe we could just hire Trooper Taylor and let him wave towels and the WR coach could handle the TEs.

We could sell #NeverYield embroidered towels.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 02, 2013, 04:40:11 PM
Maybe we could just hire Trooper Taylor and let him wave towels and the WR coach could handle the TEs.

He'd never leave Auburn High School.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 04:40:49 PM
You can't just ask a question of Coalboar.  You could ask him if he wanted you to pick him up any bananas at the store, and he'd ask you what you had against apples and then give you 20 reasons why apples are better than bananas.
::) God forbid someone respond with a question of their own.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 02, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
You can't just ask a question of Coalboar.  You could ask him if he wanted you to pick him up any bananas at the store, and he'd ask you what you had against apples and then give you 20 reasons why apples are better than bananas.
:maundoed:  Normally I am on his side of an argument, but I probably should not have asked a simple question. ;D
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 04:46:54 PM
I prefer bananas over apples anyways.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 02, 2013, 04:47:38 PM
I prefer bananas over apples anyways.
Me too.  How many should I pick up?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 02, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
You can't just ask a question of Coalboar.  You could ask him if he wanted you to pick him up any bananas at the store, and he'd ask you what you had against apples and then give you 20 reasons why apples are better than bananas.

Ok that's funny.

::) God forbid someone respond with a question of their own.

AP actually got in a funny at your expense, just roll with it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 02, 2013, 07:25:38 PM
Count me in the camp that still is buying that Taver is a good coach. I see some modicum of development from our corners not named Tevin. Hines got better before the injury, Dean showed progress, Collins was coming around before the botched coverage against LSU which appears to be about as much Bennett's fault as it may have been his. Turner at safety started to at least make tackles which again is more than I can say for Bennett or Gaines. (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school) we won't know more about the fruits of development under Johnson until some time next season. We had some really horrible talent at safety this season and to once be "safety U" we sure have sucked getting talent in here other than a few guys in the past ten years.


Re: Sark

He was on my short list of guys I would have been happy with. It's hard to put a grade on him because he had to build the UDub from shambles and has basically topped out. If we gave coaches the time that a guy like Beamer has had at Va Tech who knows what he would have built at UDUB, but the reality is one more eight win year next season and it's time to back up the UHAUL.

Taking the USC gig easily buys him approx five years. USC can't afford to keep hiring and firing in the wake of Pete Carroll and Sark at the very least is not an arrogant ass like Kiffin and he has shown he can build. I think he will do very well and his star will quickly rise at USC.

Ed O showed he could recruit at Ole Miss, but didn't win. He showed he could take over a quality Kiffin staff and WIN some games. Long term who the fuck knows but I think USC made the right choice, not sure there is anything that screams championship pedigree when discussing Ed O...great position coach but is he really on the level with your elite D1 head coaches? Probably not. I think he could possibly get a middle of the pack type of gig like he had at Ole Miss and get another chance to prove his mettle.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Hawging on December 02, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
USC assistant Ed Orgeron resigned Monday, reportedly “outraged” that he did not receive the head coaching job, according to ESPN.com’s Brett McMurphy.  http://tracking.si.com/2013/12/02/usc-ed-orgeron-resigns-passed-over-for-job/




So Orgeron quits in protest and won't coach USC in it's bowl game?   

If true, what a complete absence of integrity.  He couldn't foowbal foowbal aiee for Jeff Long.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
Haden didn't handle that well. Refused to give Orgeron an interview apparently. Not sure I get that. At least give him one in kind for the good work he did this season.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 02, 2013, 08:16:16 PM
Haden didn't handle that well. Refused to give Orgeron an interview apparently. Not sure I get that. At least give him one in kind for the good work he did this season.

Really?  If so, Haden's a fucknut.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 02, 2013, 08:18:21 PM
Really?  If so, Haden's a fucknut.

Read that somewhere, but not sure. Sure seems like it based on O's reaction.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on December 02, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
There isn't enough whiskey in Fayetteville for both Bielema and Orgeron to be there at the same time.

It's only a matter of time before they take off their shirts and wrestle in the BAC parking lot. 

I don't really want to see that.  Nobody does.

I'm fine with this staff.  Sure, I'd take Orgeron for Lunney if he can coach TEs.  Maybe we could just hire Trooper Taylor and let him wave towels and the WR coach could handle the TEs.
 

I can see a shirtless DACOACHO standing in front of the USC athletic offices telling Sark if he wants to be the man he has to beat the man...well something like that in authentic frontier jibberish. WILD BOYZ!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 02, 2013, 08:20:18 PM
The only person on this staff that I want to see shirtless is Jen.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LaMoHog on December 02, 2013, 08:22:30 PM
The only person on this staff that I want to see shirtless is Jen.

She'd still probably have the smallest tits.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on December 02, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
No one in my mind.  I just asked a question.  I think the last thing Bielema should do is chance the staff prematurely, unless someone leaves on their own.

Oregeron was mentioned and I wondered about if someone left, could things get shuffled, or even if there should be any interest.

You're such a troublemaker. Some might even say a habitual line-stepper.   O0

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 02, 2013, 08:26:44 PM
She'd still probably have the smallest tits.
So.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 02, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
So where does Cookiemonster Orgeron end up?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 02, 2013, 10:11:36 PM
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 02, 2013, 10:14:20 PM
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.

An Ole Piss friend told me this weekend that Shibest was a great special teams coacha nd they wish they still had him. I lol'd, and said I wished they still had him, too.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 02, 2013, 10:23:19 PM
Washington might be an interesting place for Orgeron.  It would be interesting to see him assrape Haden every year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 02, 2013, 10:25:12 PM
Orgeron isn't head coach material at a big time school. Washington trying to get Jim Mora as we type.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: machog23 on December 02, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
I wonder if Pinkel will consider Washington? Was an assistant under Don James, and his stock is pretty high right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 02, 2013, 10:33:05 PM
I wonder if Pinkel will consider Washington? Was an assistant under Don James, and his stock is pretty high right now.
He read he turned them down in 2008. Doubt he'd leave now that Mizzou is doing well in SEC.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 02, 2013, 10:38:32 PM
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.

I'm watching Die Hard so I'm already in a good mood.

This post slayed me.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 03, 2013, 04:34:30 AM
Orgeron has coached there much longer than Sarkisian has. Neither went to school there.

Coach did coach there longer but is not considered USC family.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Hawging on December 03, 2013, 06:29:59 AM
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.

This made me lol. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 03, 2013, 07:38:50 AM
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.

 :maundoed:

For the record:  http://www.gotigersgo.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/shibest_james00.html
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 03, 2013, 07:47:37 AM
Wasn't Footbaw's reputation supposed to be that of an outstanding (albeit shady) recruiter? I mean, look how well he did as HC of Ole' Piss. :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Red Death on December 03, 2013, 08:49:40 AM
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.

It's posts like this one that made this place.  :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 03, 2013, 09:16:28 AM
Wasn't Footbaw's reputation supposed to be that of an outstanding (albeit shady) recruiter? I mean, look how well he did as HC of Ole' Piss. :sarcasm:
Yes, and he was Nutt's best recruiter there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 03, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
Orgeron isn't head coach material at a big time school. Washington trying to get Jim Mora as we type.

Recruiter....great

Motivator, at least in the short run.....great

Building a program through great organizational skills and a plan...not so much

As said before he's Nutt except a much better recruiter. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 03, 2013, 12:21:07 PM
You're such a troublemaker. Some might even say a habitual line-stepper.   O0
And Fuck you, he shouted, in woopig fashion.  Damn, that feels good!   O0
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 03, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
And Fuck you, he shouted, in woopig fashion.  Damn, that feels good!   O0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJCFc_qkHw
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 03, 2013, 03:22:28 PM
CoachingSearch.com seems like it's just some guy randomly making shit up as he goes.


BTW, Jeff Tedford may be a candidate at Wyoming and Ed O to Wake  :stache:

Still no Hootie rumors...how can this be possible? He must have already turned down the UCONN gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 03, 2013, 03:26:50 PM
CoachingSearch.com seems like it's just some guy randomly making shit up as he goes.


BTW, Jeff Tedford may be a candidate at Wyoming and Ed O to Wake  :stache:

Still no Hootie rumors...how can this be possible? He must have already turned down the UCONN gig.

It's run by a guy who is a bartender in Oxford.  Seriously. 

Maybe there's hope yet for Imherefortaint. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 03, 2013, 03:28:11 PM

BTW, Jeff Tedford may be a candidate at Wyoming and Ed O to Wake  :stache:

Coach O at Wake would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 03, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
the football scoop guy is usually pretty good for this time of year.

http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop (http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 03, 2013, 08:51:46 PM
fuck all you assholes. :D


i love teh wooopigles.



and this is why.
Is James Shibest coaching anywhere?  If so he should be fired.

fuck yeah.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 04, 2013, 10:02:14 AM
Phoenix College (CC - AZ): Phoenix College is looking to fill coaching vacancies at QB, RB, OL, DL, OLB & secondary. These will all be stipend positions. Please email resumes to Jerome.daniels@phoenixcollege.edu and attach three references, of which two need to be direct

Someone send this guy Hooties resume...we suck so it's important for us to find someone to make fun of in the mean time.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 04, 2013, 10:13:50 AM
Phoenix College (CC - AZ): Phoenix College is looking to fill coaching vacancies at QB, RB, OL, DL, OLB & secondary. These will all be stipend positions. Please email resumes to Jerome.daniels@phoenixcollege.edu and attach three references, of which two need to be direct

Someone send this guy Hooties resume...we suck so it's important for us to find someone to make fun of in the mean time.

Set up Clint Stoerner for that QB gig, because his radio show is fucking horrible.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mr A Ziffell on December 04, 2013, 10:40:35 AM
Someone send this guy Hooties resume...we suck so it's important for us to find someone to make fun of in the mean time.

But it says he needs three references....
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 04, 2013, 10:51:08 AM
But it says he needs three references....

They can waive that aMm for the right candidate.

Set up Clint Stoerner for that QB gig, because his radio show is fricking horrible.

He's now on with a couple other ESPN Arkansas guys in the morning as of Monday morning. 93.3 The Fuzz is still dog aMm.

 ESPN Arkansas ‏@espnarkansas 4h

The Morning Rush with @ClintStoerner @derekruscin @tommycraftESPN on 96.3 in FS -93.3 in LR - 99.5 in NWA - 104.3 in North ARK -105.5 SW ARK



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 04, 2013, 10:51:16 AM
But it says he needs three references....

Teresa Prewitt
Tulsahog
GTMF

Done
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 04, 2013, 10:51:59 AM
Teresa Prewitt
Tulsahog
GTMF

Done

When they say "trade references" they aren't talking about what you took in trade ya know.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 04, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
93.3 The Fuzz is still dog shit.

It's still better than your fun and games station.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 04, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
But it says he needs three references....

He's got a lot of brothers.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 04, 2013, 11:51:11 AM

But it says he needs three references....

Bazzel
Marcus Eliot
Papa


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk (http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 04, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
Bazzel
Marcus Eliot
Papa


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk (http://tapatalk.com/m?id=1)

He knew Ernest Hemingway?

Shit.  That asshole really got around.

Due to a shotgun accident, he will not be a very good reference.  :-/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 05, 2013, 11:12:02 PM
Petersen is supposedly interviewing for the Washington job tonight.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 05, 2013, 11:20:25 PM
Petersen is supposedly interviewing for the Washington job tonight.
I wish at some point schools would quit asking his ass. He obviously has doubts about himself in a major conference OR he, for some reason, absolutely loves Boise. Washington should be the last big school to ask him. If he's a no go to Seattle, I hope he's stuck in Boise forever always wanting to be included with the big boys without BEING a big boy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 05, 2013, 11:29:33 PM
I wish at some point schools would quit asking his ass. He obviously has doubts about himself in a major conference OR he, for some reason, absolutely loves Boise. Washington should be the last big school to ask him. If he's a no go to Seattle, I hope he's stuck in Boise forever always wanting to be included with the big boys without BEING a big boy.

I think he's happy with his life where he's at, and doesn't give a fuck about going anywhere else.  I don't think he's interviewing at WA either.  Not impossible, but I doubt it.

Nothing wrong with that at all.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: razor9 on December 05, 2013, 11:31:35 PM
I wish at some point schools would quit asking his ass. He obviously has doubts about himself in a major conference OR he, for some reason, absolutely loves Boise. Washington should be the last big school to ask him. If he's a no go to Seattle, I hope he's stuck in Boise forever always wanting to be included with the big boys without BEING a big boy.

USC passed on him, he wanted the job
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 05, 2013, 11:35:11 PM
I should've clarified that Bruce Feldman was reporting that. So it wasn't Doug Gottlieb or someone else just pulling shit out of their ass.

Seattle seems to be a good fit for him, I think. Would be a huge coup for Washington.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 05, 2013, 11:38:00 PM
Feldman just put this out there...

RT @murphsturph: Flight w/ #UW AD Scott Woodward just left Boise. Plane had 2 passengers. Male & female. No Petersen. 90 min meeting
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on December 06, 2013, 07:28:41 AM
Wash hired Peterson
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 06, 2013, 07:29:45 AM
ESPN now reporting it is done.

 http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10088337

 Washington to hire Chris Peterson

Joe Schad and Brett McMurphy [ARCHIVE] ESPN | December 6, 2013

Boise State coach Chris Petersen is expected to be named head coach of the Washington Huskies on Friday, according to a source.

Petersen will be one of the highest paid coaches in the Pac-12.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 06, 2013, 08:00:33 AM
Wonder how close it came to him being hired by the UA? I know the story was always that he wanted to stay close to the area for his kid to continue his medical treatments with the same doctors or something like that. Is he autistic? I think so. Anyway...UDUB makes sense for him and his family. I guess he passed on it a few years ago when Sark was hired.


Does Harsin get a call? Poor ASU, they can't keep a coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 06, 2013, 08:12:55 AM
Boise got the short end of the stick during conference realignment and I wonder if that played a role. Losing Utah, BYU, and TCU really hurt the MWC and any chance Boise had to ever make a title game. They thought they had an escape plan with moving to the Big East, and then the Big East fell apart.

Interent rumors are that Petersen isn't great at dealing with the media and boosters, so that would explain him not being a great fit at USC.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 06, 2013, 08:33:59 AM
This is cool. My brother lives in Seattle and when I'm not rooting for our lowly razorbacks, I follow the Seattle sports teams including U-Dub.

Sark and staff were great recruiters. I wonder ifPeterson can continue that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 06, 2013, 08:36:20 AM
Boise got the short end of the stick during conference realignment and I wonder if that played a role. Losing Utah, BYU, and TCU really hurt the MWC and any chance Boise had to ever make a title game. They thought they had an escape plan with moving to the Big East, and then the Big East fell apart.

Interent rumors are that Petersen isn't great at dealing with the media and boosters, so that would explain him not being a great fit at USC.
Nutt to Boise?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 06, 2013, 09:19:58 AM
This is cool. My brother lives in Seattle and when I'm not rooting for our lowly razorbacks, I follow the Seattle sports teams including U-Dub.

Sark and staff were great recruiters. I wonder ifPeterson can continue that.

he brings a lot of cache with his name. i bet he can do things at a major university
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 06, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
Wonder how close it came to him being hired by the UA? I know the story was always that he wanted to stay close to the area for his kid to continue his medical treatments with the same doctors or something like that. Is he autistic? I think so. Anyway...UDUB makes sense for him and his family. I guess he passed on it a few years ago when Sark was hired.


Does Harsin get a call? Poor ASU, they can't keep a coach.

I'd think they have to go after Harsin. Close to the program, knows the gig.

Where does stAte go after that? Do they go after Lashlee? Does Lashlee even consider it?


Their next coach is going to have a tough go at it at this point. You can't have that much instability and continue to win the majority of your games. 4 coaches in 4 years is crazy. 5 in 5 is unfathomable.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 06, 2013, 09:24:35 AM
I'd think they have to go after Harsin. Close to the program, knows the gig.

Where does stAte go after that? Do they go after Lashlee? Does Lashlee even consider it?


Next coach is going to run into some major issues at stAte at this point. You can't have that much instability and continue to win the majority of your games. 4 coaches in 4 years is crazy. 5 in 5 is unfathomable.

Brent Pease is available for Boise.  No buyout needed.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 06, 2013, 09:25:40 AM
Will he install purple field turf?

I think Hootie is really pressing Jimmy Sexton on things beyond coaching.  I hear he really wanted a role on that Live Sound of Music show last night once he heard Carrie Underwood would be there. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 06, 2013, 09:33:35 AM
I'd think they have to go after Harsin. Close to the program, knows the gig.

Where does stAte go after that? Do they go after Lashlee? Does Lashlee even consider it?


Their next coach is going to have a tough go at it at this point. You can't have that much instability and continue to win the majority of your games. 4 coaches in 4 years is crazy. 5 in 5 is unfathomable.

It being a stepping stone job, it would end up being good placement for the Clemson OC but State should maybe think about hiring someone nobody else wants like Hoot or maybe a more sensible pick like Chizik.

I keep throwing out Tedford for a job, Boise would be a good placement for him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 06, 2013, 09:38:29 AM
It being a stepping stone job, it would end up being good placement for the Clemson OC but State should maybe think about hiring someone nobody else wants like Hoot or maybe a more sensible pick like Chizik.

I keep throwing out Tedford for a job, Boise would be a good placement for him.

If stAte could land somebody like Cristobal, who still fits their mold of up-and-comers, he might be a guy that could at least stay there for several years..
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 06, 2013, 09:41:12 AM
It being a stepping stone job, it would end up being good placement for the Clemson OC but State should maybe think about hiring someone nobody else wants like Hoot or maybe a more sensible pick like Chizik.

I keep throwing out Tedford for a job, Boise would be a good placement for him.

Could ASU afford Chad Morris? He makes $1.3 million as OC.  If he wanted to be a HC at a Sun Belt school he would be already. I think he's waiting for a BCS job.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 06, 2013, 09:48:26 AM
I hate it for them, but I'd be lying if I said I won't giggle a little bit if the program that's trying to bill its self as the "Boise State" of the South loses it's head coach to...  Boise State.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 06, 2013, 09:49:06 AM
Could ASU afford Chad Morris? He makes $1.3 million as OC.  If he wanted to be a HC at a Sun Belt school he would be already. I think he's waiting for a BCS job.

Well point taken, I had forgotten dude got a hefty raise. Though if I recall Gis had a hefty raise at Auburn and later took a pay cut to go to ASU for a year. Chad Morris needs to strike while the iron is hot and Clemson didn't light the world on fire this season...he might need to take a gig or figure on staying put at Clemson for a while longer.

If stAte could land somebody like Cristobal, who still fits their mold of up-and-comers, he might be a guy that could at least stay there for several years..

Possibly a good choice, he got railroaded at FIU. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 06, 2013, 10:03:29 AM
It being a stepping stone job, it would end up being good placement for the Clemson OC but State should maybe think about hiring someone nobody else wants like Hoot or maybe a more sensible pick like Chizik.

I keep throwing out Tedford for a job, Boise would be a good placement for him.

Nutt is a better coach than Chizik, provided that Chizik doesn't have Gus or someone comparable as his OC/ co-head coach. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 06, 2013, 10:07:26 AM
Nutt is a better coach than Chizik, provided that Chizik doesn't have Gus or someone comparable as his OC/ co-head coach.

What is Nutt's specialty?

Chizik, at the very least, has put together some tough defenses out on the field.



Even if you clarify to head coach, your qualifier cancels out the one thing Nutt could never construct.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on December 06, 2013, 10:11:34 AM
Chizik, at the very least, has put together some tough defenses out on the field.

As a head coach?  I didn't follow his abortion of a term at ISU, but his defenses sucked white dog shit at Auburn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 06, 2013, 10:21:12 AM
Nutt is a better coach than Chizik, provided that Chizik doesn't have Gus or someone comparable as his OC/ co-head coach.

I think Chizik is a better recruiter and coordinator but may lack the leading CEO quality of a first rate BCS head coach.

Nutt is good to under promise and over deliver...sometimes. Had Nutt realized long ago to that he should check his ego and hire professionals to surround himself with he would still be coaching somewhere and likely successful because he is likable especially in small doses to the national mob. Like it or not, he's got that motivational quality to ask his players to run through walls.

Chizik surrounded himself around towel waving idiots who were great recruiters but terrible at providing real substance, Malzahn took full opportunity to maximize himself as the true genius and by leaving when he did virtually assured himself to be insulated from the fallout. He came out smelling like a rose didn't he?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 06, 2013, 10:25:20 AM
As a head coach?  I didn't follow his abortion of a term at ISU, but his defenses sucked white dog shit at Auburn.

As DC at Auburn and Texas, he put together some good units.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 06, 2013, 10:32:48 AM
As DC at Auburn and Texas, he put together some good units.

I meant as a head coach.  Chizik was completely inept in that regard - offensively, defensively, and otherwise. 

Nutt underachieved most of the time, but never did as badly as Chizik's last year while having that kind of talent.  Hootie's teams that had losing records each had a much lower talent level than what Chizik had to work with in 2012. 

Both apparently had ego issues, as Chizik basically forced Malzahn out after the 2011 season.  Judgment was similar as well, when you consider the idiotic decision to switch a team built purely for the spread with a limited QB to a pro-set. 

I wouldn't want either as a head coach, but if forced at gunpoint to take one or the other I'd throw up and hire Nutt.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: UAClassof81 on December 06, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
What is Nutt's specialty?


Well, let's see.........

Burning back to back timeouts; delay of game penalties after timeouts; loss of twelve yards after timeouts; smoke-draws; impressive win every 2-3 years with four or five wtf losses in between each one; doing a not-too bad job on recruiting but underachieving with said recruits; not developing players.......

The list goes on and on...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: slimswiney on December 06, 2013, 10:40:37 AM

Listened to the Coaching Search guy yesterday on local radio, he said Nutts name had not been associated with any job, but Sexton had tried to find him a spot.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 06, 2013, 10:43:59 AM
Listened to the Coaching Search guy yesterday on local radio, he said Nutts name had not been associated with any job, but Sexton had tried to find him a spot.

How about Diana's leather snatch for a change?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 06, 2013, 10:45:16 AM
I think he's happy with his life where he's at, and doesn't give a frick about going anywhere else.  I don't think he's interviewing at WA either.  Not impossible, but I doubt it.

Nothing wrong with that at all.

So who do you like in this weekend's games?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 06, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
Listened to the Coaching Search guy yesterday on local radio, he said Nutts name had not been associated with any job, but Sexton had tried to find him a spot.

It's going to have to be some mission impossible job only the bulk of those jobs now days are going to the up and comers of the world and not the has-been's or never-was's. Everyone wants the niche offense and nothing in Nutt's history screams new hotness.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 06, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Boise ought to take a look at Skip Holtz.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 06, 2013, 04:05:12 PM
What is Nutt's specialty?


Fucking up QBs, boinking local newswimmens, power texting, finding odd jobs for those suffering bleeding brain stems

Schools like ASU now face the challenges of big school OCs making more dough than they want to pay for a HC. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 06, 2013, 04:33:40 PM
So who do you like in this weekend's games?

Looks like I was wrong.  Glad I don't bet.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 06, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
USC fans have gone nuclear over hiring Sark and then Washington getting Petersen.  They are NOT happy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HipHog on December 06, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
i guess they would rather have peterson?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 06, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
I would have last year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 06, 2013, 08:03:38 PM
i guess they would rather have peterson?

UW fans I know that live there were ready to try a new coach if Sark had the same type of season next year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 06, 2013, 08:32:30 PM
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@RapSheet: Texas helping coaches cash in RT @slmandel: RT @bmarcello: Auburn's Gus Malzahn agrees to new six-year deal worth $3.85 million next year

Yep, coming out smelling like a rose is getting to be a habit. Obi Wan Nutt taught him well. He can buy momma lots more presents to put under the tree now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 06, 2013, 08:38:01 PM
Yep, coming out smelling like a rose is getting to be a habit. Obi Wan Nutt taught him well. He can buy momma lots more presents to put under the tree now.

Seems like ADs would get wise to this shit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 06, 2013, 08:47:52 PM
Seems like ADs would get wise to this aMm.
Would you want to be the AD to 'wise up' only to have your guy bolt? That wouldn't buff out. Gus was getting a raise anyway.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 06, 2013, 08:49:39 PM
USC fans have gone nuclear over hiring Sark and then Washington getting Petersen.  They are NOT happy.

Well maybe he didn't want to go to USC.  Maybe that "need to stay in the Northwest" (for medical reasons or whatever) had truth to it.

The Rolling Stones come to mind.  "You can't...always get...what you waaannntt...."
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 06, 2013, 08:56:27 PM
Gus now getting a 6-year deal for $3.8 mil a year at Auburn.

Wonder what the buyout is.  Allegedly he was a candidate at Texas, who still has a football coach.

Sounds like Aubie was Sextowned.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 06, 2013, 09:28:45 PM
Would you want to be the AD to 'wise up' only to have your guy bolt? That wouldn't buff out. Gus was getting a raise anyway.

No, but a guy in Gus' position is prime for a healthy raise.  No need for the texass communication to be a factor.  Seems like an AD worth his salt would tell Gus "We're working on getting you a healthy raise.  I'd appreciate it if you and your agent would tell any suitors you're not intereseted...in the best interest of the program.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 07, 2013, 12:28:50 AM
I meant as a head coach.  Chizik was completely inept in that regard - offensively, defensively, and otherwise. 

Nutt underachieved most of the time, but never did as badly as Chizik's last year while having that kind of talent.  Hootie's teams that had losing records each had a much lower talent level than what Chizik had to work with in 2012. 

Both apparently had ego issues, as Chizik basically forced Malzahn out after the 2011 season.  Judgment was similar as well, when you consider the idiotic decision to switch a team built purely for the spread with a limited QB to a pro-set. 

I wouldn't want either as a head coach, but if forced at gunpoint to take one or the other I'd throw up and hire Nutt.

Oh, I don't disagree... Was just pointing out that Chizik at least had a bit of a track record before that title.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 07, 2013, 08:33:59 AM
I guess I just think a head coach at a major university and his agent shouldn't be shopping their services after one year on the job. Happy he got paid and no I wouldn't turn it down either but I don't buy that a guy under contract in his first year is due for a raise strictly. They paid him to come in and win already, what changed? I guess if Gus had turned down the restructured contract he would get flack for not being committed long term so it's just a terrible situation all the way around. So go be a whore for the money..yes please.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: mde114 on December 07, 2013, 08:46:55 AM
What if BB's agent goes to Long and asks for a raise? Should Long comply in order to continue this 5 year rebuilding process?

He's the man for the job.  Right???
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 07, 2013, 08:53:40 AM
It's kinda funny though because you gotta know Saban and his agent are sitting by thinking Malzahn just defaulted them a raise. The price of pudding is going up. If Malzahn is worth 3.3 or whatever then surely Lord Saban is popping six. Yes Texas is going to get a lot of coaches raises and they haven't even opened up the job yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 07, 2013, 09:41:55 AM
So according Malzahn's contract it's $3.85 mil the first year, with a $250K raise every year after. $5.1 mil for his last year. Wow. They haven't said what the buyout is.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 07, 2013, 09:56:03 AM
Boise paper mentions Harsin, Koetter, and Wilcox as the top candidates.

Harsin has a 1.75 million dollar buyout, but his diddy says its Brian's dream job. I bet they pick Dirk K. up cheap and the Falcons staff is probably hanging their resumes out right about now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on December 07, 2013, 09:59:45 AM
So according Malzahn's contract it's $3.85 mil the first year, with a $250K raise every year after. $5.1 mil for his last year. Wow. They haven't said what the buyout is.

Holy dog balls! How will Hog Fans answer the call in 5 years in order to fullfill ArProud's prophecy?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 07, 2013, 10:00:35 AM
What if BB's agent goes to Long and asks for a raise? Should Long comply in order to continue this 5 year rebuilding process?

He's the man for the job.  Right???


I'd give him a raise, provided that the new contract provided a one-sided buyout in the university's favor.  I'm a fan of the guy and think he's going to get it done, but not so much that I wouldn't jump at the chance to get a lower buyout in the event it doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 07, 2013, 10:17:02 AM
So according Malzahn's contract it's $3.85 mil the first year, with a $250K raise every year after. $5.1 mil for his last year. Wow. They haven't said what the buyout is.

I get the feeling Gus isn't as good as his stock makes him look right now and they'll regret this. When this junior class graduates they may wish they hadn't made this deal.

I'm grateful Bielema doesn't have Sexton (though Mike does).  The guy is just absurd at milking money out of schools.  I still shake my head thinking about him flirting with Kansas at the end of his first season at Ole Miss.  No scruples.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pig Benis on December 07, 2013, 10:25:07 AM
I still shake my head thinking about him flirting with Kansas at the end of his first season at Ole Miss.  No scruples.

Hootie? I don't even remember that one.  I guess I lost track of how many jobs he's turned down that were never offered.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 07, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
I get the feeling Gus isn't as good as his stock makes him look right now and they'll regret this. When this junior class graduates they may wish they hadn't made this deal.

I'm grateful Bielema doesn't have Sexton (though Mike does).  The guy is just absurd at milking money out of schools.  I still shake my head thinking about him flirting with Kansas at the end of his first season at Ole Miss.  No scruples.

You might be right.  But I think it's a smarter move to pay a guy less money, then give him a raise after he goes 11-1, than start him out high with an incredibly high buyout that lasts forever and be trapped.

Holy dog balls! How will Hog Fans answer the call in 5 years in order to fullfill ArProud's prophecy?

If you don't have anything intelligent to say, the next card is to try and blast someone for something they didn't say but can make four other people on the board believe they did say.

Kind of hogvillian, but whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 07, 2013, 10:35:59 AM
Gus is either going to blow up and be worth every penny for a while similar to Spurrier or maybe Urban or he's going to be exposed after a few years. He's not stayed anywhere long enough to show that he can build and sustain and his previous stint at Auburn suggests his style gets figured out.

I can't help but wonder how royally fucked MIZZOU is in this game, Auburn needs to win in convincing fashion in order for the SEC to find placement in the championship game for the eight consecutive year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 07, 2013, 10:40:07 AM
You might be right.  But I think it's a smarter move to pay a guy less money, then give him a raise after he goes 11-1, than start him out high with an incredibly high buyout that lasts forever and be trapped.


We're paying Bielema $2.85 mil a year and he's been to 3 BCS bowls.  Gus' contract escalates from $3.85 mil (what he paid Petrino) up to $5.1 mil in his 6th year.

Bielema's buyout is tough but that's what happened when you bring a coach into a situation where you have no talent and he leaves a team that is stocked and went to 3 BCS bowls.  You don't need a fat buyout when you're hiring a coach from Arkansas State or Houston.  We're obviously taking a risk and if he doesn't pan out we may end up like aTm did with Franchione.  His buyout took down their whole budget for a while.

aTm got taken the same way by Sumlin, who I don't think uses Sexton.

Before you break the bank I'd prefer to see what a coach can do with the players he recruited himself.  We'll see what the buyouts are with these guys with these new deals.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 07, 2013, 10:49:24 AM
You might be right.  But I think it's a smarter move to pay a guy less money, then give him a raise after he goes 11-1, than start him out high with an incredibly high buyout that lasts forever and be trapped.


This is EXACTLY the strategy that brought up Holtz, Hatfield, Crowe, Ford, and Nutt.  One for five.  I'm comfortable trying something else at this point, especially right after swinging for the fences with Petrino.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 07, 2013, 11:13:13 AM
I think Gus got this raise based on stupid giddiness of the BoT at their mistaking blind luck for genius.  If those Georgia DBs simply knock the ball down, and if Bama's kickers hadnt faltered, Gus would be down 2 games.  A rumor of Texas and then the Texans, and they bump him big time BEFORE the SEC champ game.

Not blaming him for taking the money, but I think Malzahn knows that to leave AU after one season would paint him as the worst job hopper ever. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 07, 2013, 12:00:57 PM
We're paying Bielema $2.85 mil a year and he's been to 3 BCS bowls.  Gus' contract escalates from $3.85 mil (what he paid Petrino) up to $5.1 mil in his 6th year.


Right, but AU is paying Gus for success at their own school.  We're paying Bielema for success at a different school in a much lesser conference.  It may actually work out in the long run for both schools.  We took the other direction with Petrino, giving him the fat raise after the BCS bowl, and it would have worked out fine for us.  It may actually have worked out, as we didn't have to pay the buyout.

This is EXACTLY the strategy that brought up Holtz, Hatfield, Crowe, Ford, and Nutt.  One for five.  I'm comfortable trying something else at this point, especially right after swinging for the fences with Petrino.

I think Holtz and Hatfield earned their money though.  We were nationally relevant for a 12 year span.

I hope it works out for us - just pointing out the differences in the approach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 07, 2013, 12:07:25 PM
Right, but AU is paying Gus for success at their own school.  We're paying Bielema for success at a different school in a much lesser conference.

Are you retarded?  Gus' track record included mighty A State and Tulsa. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on December 07, 2013, 12:17:24 PM
Right, but AU is paying Gus for success at their own school.  We're paying Bielema for success at a different school in a much lesser conference.  It may actually work out in the long run for both schools.  We took the other direction with Petrino, giving him the fat raise after the BCS bowl, and it would have worked out fine for us.  It may actually have worked out, as we didn't have to pay the buyout.


Programs pay coaches all the time for success at other schools.  Washington just made Peterson the highest paid coach in the Pac 12 for success at a different school in a much lesser conference.  We weren't going to get Bielema or someone here of his caliber without paying them a fat load of cash.  And if he produces, he'll likely get a deserved raise.  If he doesn't, he'll get canned.  That's how coaching contracts work. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 07, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
Programs pay coaches all the time for success at other schools.  Washington just made Peterson the highest paid coach in the Pac 12 for success at a different school in a much lesser conference.  We weren't going to get Bielema or someone here of his caliber without paying them a fat load of cash.  And if he produces, he'll likely get a deserved raise.  If he doesn't, he'll get canned.  That's how coaching contracts work.

Or, he'll win, then fuck up off the field, and get canned.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on December 07, 2013, 01:26:23 PM
Boise paper mentions Harsin, Koetter, and Wilcox as the top candidates.

Harsin has a 1.75 million dollar buyout, but his diddy says its Brian's dream job. I bet they pick Dirk K. up cheap and the Falcons staff is probably hanging their resumes out right about now.

Koetter would complete the full circle as he's the one who first won 10 games at Boise. They don't want Hawkins or Hootie??
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 07, 2013, 03:10:19 PM
Right, but AU is paying Gus for success at their own school.  We're paying Bielema for success at a different school in a much lesser conference.  It may actually work out in the long run for both schools.  We took the other direction with Petrino, giving him the fat raise after the BCS bowl, and it would have worked out fine for us.  It may actually have worked out, as we didn't have to pay the buyout.


Going to BCS bowls in years 5, 6 and 7 in another major conference means more to me than winning in year 1.  I've just seen too many guys win in year 1 and completely shit the bed.  Both teams will have a lot of turnover and should look completely different in 2 seasons, so it will be interesting to see how they both play in 2015.  It's not inconceivable that losing Manziel alone will be enough for aTm to drop off significantly.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 07, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
Koetter would complete the full circle as he's the one who first won 10 games at Boise. They don't want Hawkins or Hootie??

The comments section from the fans seems to be a consensus that they wouldn't mind having Koetter back, they'd welcome him back.

No word on Hootie and that Univ. Phoenix online gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PigHair on December 07, 2013, 03:44:35 PM
The comments section from the fans seems to be a consensus that they wouldn't mind having Koetter back, they'd welcome him

Will Horshack and Barbarino come with him?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 07, 2013, 04:13:10 PM
Are you retarded?  Gus' track record included mighty A State and Tulsa.

Exactly.  That's why they got him for like $2 million a year.  Whatever they paid him this year, it was far under the SEC average - I can guarantee that.  Then, he produces in year 1 and they immediately pay him what he's worth.

Going to BCS bowls in years 5, 6 and 7 in another major conference means more to me than winning in year 1. 

Sure, that's logical.  But in the SEC, where you have 9-10 teams vying for the title every year rather than just 3 in the big 10 (wisc/osu/msu or mi), even just one SEC title means more than 3 in the big ten, (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school).

Here's a little known stat.  If Auburn wins today, Gus will own as many SEC titles in 4 years in the SEC as Saban's had at Alabama in 7.   :stunned:


Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 07, 2013, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: Arkansas Proud
Here's a little known stat.  If Auburn wins today, Gus will own as many SEC titles in 4 years in the SEC as Saban's had at Alabama in 7.   :stunned:

Amazing, because he's only been an SEC head coach for a full season, yet.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 07, 2013, 04:17:58 PM
Sounds like Tedford turned down Wyoming after he figured out they wanted him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 07, 2013, 04:18:06 PM

Sure, that's logical.  But in the SEC, where you have 9-10 teams vying for the title every year rather than just 3 in the big 10 (wisc/osu/msu or mi), even just one SEC title means more than 3 in the big ten, (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school).

Here's a little known stat.  If Dead Trees wins today, Gus will own as many SEC titles in 4 years in the SEC as Saban's had at Alabama in 7.   :stunned:

Most years there are only a couple of legit title candidates in the SEC.  Lately it's usually been LSU and Bama.

You can't give Gus credit for what he did as coordinator, he wasn't the head coach. He didn't bring in all of those personnel.  Well, if you do that you have to do the same regarding his failure his last season at AU when they finished below 100th in total offense.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jackie Treehorn on December 07, 2013, 04:18:13 PM
Exactly.  That's why they got him for like $2 million a year.  Whatever they paid him this year, it was far under the SEC average - I can guarantee that.  Then, he produces in year 1 and they immediately pay him what he's worth.

Sure, that's logical.  But in the SEC, where you have 9-10 teams vying for the title every year rather than just 3 in the big 10 (wisc/osu/msu or mi), even just one SEC title means more than 3 in the big ten, (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school).

Here's a little known stat.  If Dead Trees wins today, Gus will own as many SEC titles in 4 years in the SEC as Saban's had at Alabama in 7.   :stunned:

Your stat isn't incorrect, but Saban has another two at LSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 07, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
Arkansas Proud sure does say some weird shit sometimes.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 07, 2013, 04:36:51 PM
Most years there are only a couple of legit title candidates in the SEC.  Lately it's usually been LSU and Bama.


Are you serious?  Florida won a national title just 4 years ago.  Georgia was one play away from the SEC title just last year.  In the last 8 years now, 9 different teams have appeared in the Championship Game, 5 from the East, 4 from the West.  I'd be shocked if any other conferences have that.

Just this year, there were what, maybe 6-8 teams in the top 25 teams in the preseason, and that doesn't include the two teams in the SEC Championship game.

Arkansas Proud sure does say some weird aMm sometimes.

I'm here for your enjoyment.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 07, 2013, 05:01:40 PM
Are you serious?  Florida won a national title just 4 years ago.  Georgia was one play away from the SEC title just last year.  In the last 8 years now, 9 different teams have appeared in the Championship Game, 5 from the East, 4 from the West.  I'd be shocked if any other conferences have that.

Just this year, there were what, maybe 6-8 teams in the top 25 teams in the preseason, and that doesn't include the two teams in the SEC Championship game.

I'm here for your enjoyment.

When it was Florida it was just Florida and Bama.  Usually it's 2 teams per year that have a shot.

Not that they are always the same two, any idiot can clearly see that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 07, 2013, 06:16:26 PM
The comments section from the fans seems to be a consensus that they wouldn't mind having Koetter back, they'd welcome him back.

No word on Hootie and that Univ. Phoenix online gig.
The names have all changed, though, since he's been around.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 08, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
Just putting together a list of names I feel bare watching for upgraded jobs.


Tim DeRuyter - Fresno State (the youngest Carr brother will be QB next year most likely)
Dave Clawson - Bowling Green
Mark Hudspeth - ULL
Ken Niumataloa - Navy
Jeff Tedford - former Cal coach
Dirk Koetter - OC Atlanta Falcons

Current Coordinators at college level ready for big chair.

Nick Aliotti - DC OREGON (was he passed over?)
Bud Foster - DC VIRGINIA TECH (once new hotness, now nearly forgotten)
Chad Morris - OC CLEMSON (Gus just did him a giant fucking favor)
Pat Narduzzi - DC MICHIGAN STATE
KIRBY SMART - DC ALABAMA
BOB DIACO - DC NOTRE DAME
Everett Withers - coDC OHIO STATE


Current head coaches at small gigs that might be working their way up.

Bobby Hauck - UNLV
Rod Carey - NIU
Jim McElwain - Colorado State
Doc Holliday - Marshall
Joey Jones - South Alabama (played under the Bear)
Jeff Quinn - Buffalo
Terry Bowden - like him or not the guy builds and wins



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 08, 2013, 11:46:59 AM
The names have all changed, though, since he's been around.
Yeah, we'd tease Hootie alot...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 08, 2013, 01:10:35 PM
When it was Florida it was just Florida and Bama.  Usually it's 2 teams per year that have a shot.

Not that they are always the same two, any idiot can clearly see that.

Which two teams from this year had a shot?

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 08, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/08/report-rutgers-fires-three-coaches-including-dc/

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on December 08, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
Which two teams from this year had a shot?

Those from Alabama.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on December 08, 2013, 08:10:12 PM
Just putting together a list of names I feel bare watching for upgraded jobs.


Tim DeRuyter - Fresno State (the youngest Carr brother will be QB next year most likely)
Dave Clawson - Bowling Green
Mark Hudspeth - ULL
Ken Niumataloa - Navy
Jeff Tedford - former Cal coach
Dirk Koetter - OC Atlanta Falcons

Current Coordinators at college level ready for big chair.

Nick Aliotti - DC OREGON (was he passed over?)
Bud Foster - DC VIRGINIA TECH (once new hotness, now nearly forgotten)
Chad Morris - OC CLEMSON (Gus just did him a giant fricking favor)
Pat Narduzzi - DC MICHIGAN STATE
KIRBY SMART - DC ALABAMA
BOB DIACO - DC NOTRE DAME
Everett Withers - coDC OHIO STATE


Current head coaches at small gigs that might be working their way up.

Bobby Hauck - UNLV
Rod Carey - NIU
Jim McElwain - Colorado State
Doc Holliday - Marshall
Joey Jones - South Alabama (played under the Bear)
Jeff Quinn - Buffalo
Terry Bowden - like him or not the guy builds and wins


You feel bare?  TMI, dude.    :police:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 08, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
Which two teams from this year had a shot?

Bama and Auburn.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 09, 2013, 12:19:59 AM
It's midnight and Shanahan hasn't been fired yet.  Tomorrow perhaps.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 09:03:05 AM
It's midnight and Shanahan hasn't been fired yet.  Tomorrow perhaps.
Here's a telling photo of the current state of Redskins football.
From the end of the first quarter:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba-9JoxIgAAKXll.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 09, 2013, 09:05:39 AM
Bama and Dead Trees.

From the beginning of the year, only Bama and Auburn had a shot?  Not top 10 LSU, Georgia, or South Carolina?

Thanks, that tells me all I need to know.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 09:11:30 AM
From the beginning of the year, only Bama and Auburn had a shot?  Not top 10 LSU, Georgia, or South Carolina?

Thanks, that tells me all I need to know.

From the beginning of the year, everybody had a shot.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 09, 2013, 09:36:22 AM
From the beginning of the year, everybody had a shot.

And from the beginning of the year up until the 4th quarter on Saturday, Missouri had a shot. So that's 3.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 09:38:46 AM
And from the beginning of the year up until the 4th quarter on Saturday, Missouri had a shot. So that's 3.
On week 1, Georgia State had a shot.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 09, 2013, 09:41:24 AM
On week 1, Georgia State had a shot.

I was just trying to add a team with a shot at the end of the year, not the beginning. "2 SEC teams have a shot" didn't seem accurate to me.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 09:43:46 AM
Harsin is interviewing at Boise State today, allegedly.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 09:44:52 AM
I was just trying to add a team with a shot at the end of the year, not the beginning. "2 SEC teams have a shot" didn't seem accurate to me.

Honestly, it seems to me like a pretty irrelevant point to argue off of. I'm not sure I understand the point of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on December 09, 2013, 09:52:55 AM
Honestly, it seems to me like a pretty irrelevant point to argue off of. I'm not sure I understand the point of it.

Bielema is the Houston Nutt of the Big 10, and he's fat.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 09:55:18 AM
Bielema is the Houston Nutt of the Big 10, and he's fat.
Your jealousy of Gus Malzahn is evident in this post.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on December 09, 2013, 10:56:35 AM
Catch me up, I've been gone. Why did Petersen turn down all these big time programs just to take the UW job?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: FNG on December 09, 2013, 11:29:44 AM
Bielema is the Hootie of the Big 10, and he's fat and he lives in Arkie saw and works for the You of A.
Accuracy is key.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 09, 2013, 11:44:06 AM
Catch me up, I've been gone. Why did Petersen turn down all these big time programs just to take the UW job?

Because the Seattle hospitals are top notch. Haven't you ever watched Grey's Anatomy?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 09, 2013, 11:59:15 AM
And he's a huge Mariners and Robinson Cano fan and wanted to see as many games as possible.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 09, 2013, 01:18:52 PM
Harsin is interviewing at Boise State today, allegedly.

ASU is rapdily developing two annual football traditions: a trip to the GoDaddy Bowl and a head coaching search.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: USAFHawg on December 09, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
Here's a telling photo of the current state of Redskins football.
From the end of the first quarter:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba-9JoxIgAAKXll.jpg)

If it is the end of the 1st quarter, why are they lined up to kickoff?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 01:36:27 PM
If it is the end of the 1st quarter, why are they lined up to kickoff?

Pulled it off twitter, so it was probably near the end of the first quarter or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 09, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
I was just trying to add a team with a shot at the end of the year, not the beginning. "2 SEC teams have a shot" didn't seem accurate to me.

 ::)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 09, 2013, 02:49:06 PM
If it is the end of the 1st quarter, why are they lined up to kickoff?

I watched bits and pieces and it look like that right after kickoff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 09, 2013, 04:56:33 PM
Honestly, it seems to me like a pretty irrelevant point to argue off of. I'm not sure I understand the point of it.

Because conference depth adds to the reality of how good the conference is.  For years when the Big 12 was getting to the championship game, one of the arguments against putting a team from that conference in was that it sucked.  Why did it suck?  B/c only OU and Texas (sometimes KSU) had legitimate shots at winning the conference title.  Everyone else was playing for 4th place.  You could say the same thing about the Big Ten the last several years.  Only MSU, OSU, and Wisconsin.

But in the SEC, at the beginning of any given year, you have at least 6 teams that have a shot at the conference title.  This year was obviously AL, LSU, A&M, GA, and SC, maybe FL.  And still, Auburn and Missouri played for it.  That is conference depth and why the SEC is perceived as the best conference.  And why it wasn't necessarily the best conference when FL and AL were facing off nearly every single year in the 90's.

Hell, the SEC has won 7 titles in a row by 4 different teams.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 09, 2013, 05:27:36 PM
Because conference depth adds to the reality of how good the conference is.  For years when the Big 12 was getting to the championship game, one of the arguments against putting a team from that conference in was that it sucked.  Why did it suck?  B/c only OU and Texas (sometimes KSU) had legitimate shots at winning the conference title.  Everyone else was playing for 4th place.  You could say the same thing about the Big Ten the last several years.  Only MSU, OSU, and Wisconsin.

But in the SEC, at the beginning of any given year, you have at least 6 teams that have a shot at the conference title.  This year was obviously AL, LSU, A&M, GA, and SC, maybe FL.  And still, Auburn and Missouri played for it.  That is conference depth and why the SEC is perceived as the best conference.  And why it wasn't necessarily the best conference when FL and AL were facing off nearly every single year in the 90's.

Hell, the SEC has won 7 titles in a row by 4 different teams.

One of the teams you named isn't even bowl eligible.
Regardless, who said the SEC isn't good top-to-bottom?
Getting snarky over how many teams are title game-relevant is pretty pointless in my eyes.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 09, 2013, 05:47:31 PM
One of the teams you named isn't even bowl eligible.
Regardless, who said the SEC isn't good top-to-bottom?
Getting snarky over how many teams are title game-relevant is pretty pointless in my eyes.

How many teams are even realistically in the mix for the Championship game?

FSU
Auburn
Bama
OSU

SEC wins that comparison, too.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 07:06:14 AM
I didn't catch this but apparently Wyoming hired the bald guy from Back to the Future, formerly of ND STATE.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 10, 2013, 09:17:06 AM
ASU is rapdily developing two annual football traditions: a trip to the GoDaddy Bowl and a head coaching search.

They should combine it into a package deal.  Buy two tix and you get to interview candidates, and get a Danica poster.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 10, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
I didn't catch this

Slacker.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 10, 2013, 09:42:13 AM
I didn't catch this but apparently Wyoming hired the bald guy from Back to the Future, formerly of ND STATE.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FfXkHFSe-m0/SkKS78_3AUI/AAAAAAAAA9w/hf3pVy2Nc3Q/s400/jim.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 09:44:52 AM
I didn't catch this but apparently Wyoming hired the bald guy from Back to the Future, formerly of ND STATE.

He's staying at NDSU through their playoff run, which is kind of a little...  awkward, I guess.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 09:48:20 AM
I didn't catch this but apparently Wyoming hired the bald guy from Back to the Future, formerly of ND STATE.

Not sure that's necessarily a good move for him.  He was already becoming a legend at ND State.  Granted, its a D-II school or whatever subdivision they call it, but talk about owning the damn place.  Hell, they even hosted College Gameday.  In Fargo, ND for pete's sake!

Not saying moving on at some point didn't make sense, but I'm thinking he could've scored better than Wyoming.  Possibly even going back to Nebraska.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 09:51:11 AM
He's staying at NDSU through their playoff run, which is kind of a little...  awkward, I guess.


He's going for a threepeat, so can't blame him for wanting to finish that out.

That said, the FCS championship game (should NDSU make it that far) isn't until January 4, so it seems like you'd lose a lot of recruiting time there. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 09:58:33 AM

He's going for a threepeat, so can't blame him for wanting to finish that out.

That said, the FCS championship game (should NDSU make it that far) isn't until January 4, so it seems like you'd lose a lot of recruiting time there.
A Nebraska-fan friend has told me that he just let recruits rail his wife to get them when he was on their staff, so maybe that's how he plans on closing out the recruiting season.

And because there are rules here:
(http://www.bakkentoday.com/media/full/jpg/2012/10/12/1014-ss-alleiabohl-5.jpg)
(http://www.bakkentoday.com/media/full/jpg/2012/10/12/1014-ss-leiabohl-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 10, 2013, 10:01:53 AM
A Nebraska-fan friend has told me that he just let recruits rail his wife to get them when he was on their staff, so maybe that's how he plans on closing out the recruiting season.

And because there are rules here:
(http://www.bakkentoday.com/media/full/jpg/2012/10/12/1014-ss-alleiabohl-5.jpg)
(http://www.bakkentoday.com/media/full/jpg/2012/10/12/1014-ss-leiabohl-6.jpg)

Damn. I wish I had some eligibility left.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Merle_Hoggard on December 10, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
A Nebraska-fan friend has told me that he just let recruits rail his wife to get them when he was on their staff, so maybe that's how he plans on closing out the recruiting season.

And because there are rules here:
(http://www.bakkentoday.com/media/full/jpg/2012/10/12/1014-ss-alleiabohl-5.jpg)
(http://www.bakkentoday.com/media/full/jpg/2012/10/12/1014-ss-leiabohl-6.jpg)

Looks like Mom in the top pic, and daughter in the second.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 10:04:12 AM
Looks like Mom in the top pic, and daughter in the second.


You only get the mom-daughter combo when you're a 4-star or 5-star.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 10:07:21 AM
Looks like Mom in the top pic, and daughter in the second.
Shit lighting can make anyone look older.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 10:10:22 AM
Shit lighting can make anyone look older.
Makes their hair lighter too?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 10:16:32 AM
Shit lighting can make anyone look older.


Point of order. 

Bohl married his current wife in 2010, while he was at NDSU.  She's a radio DJ.   

He had a different wife when he was at Nebraska. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 10:17:50 AM

Point of order. 

Bohl married his current wife in 2010, while he was at NDSU.  She's a radio DJ.   

He had a different wife when he was at Nebraska.

Well fuck.
I guess it remains to be seen if his recruiting strategy is just her game or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 10:19:53 AM
Makes their hair lighter too?

I don't know when the pics were taken, but they're from the same article, and are both numbered in sequential order with her name on them... so I can't say for sure, but it certainly appears to be the exact same person from every other pic on that piece.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 10:45:16 AM

Point of order. 

Bohl married his current wife in 2010, while he was at NDSU.  She's a radio DJ.   

He had a different wife when he was at Nebraska.

Apparently, he was fired from Nebraska for having an affair with a student while his wife was pregnant with twins?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 10:47:35 AM
Not sure that's necessarily a good move for him.  He was already becoming a legend at ND State.  Granted, its a D-II school or whatever subdivision they call it, but talk about owning the damn place.  Starkville, they even hosted College Gameday.  In Fargo, ND for pete's sake!

Not saying moving on at some point didn't make sense, but I'm thinking he could've scored better than Wyoming.  Possibly even going back to Nebraska.


I'm not sure this guy is motivated by being the big man at a major FBS school in a power conference. Wyoming might just be right up his alley. On the other hand Wyoming may be just the place he needs to go to show Nebraska what he can do at a FBS school for a few years. I think the timing is pretty bad though because I don't think there is anyway Pelini keeps his gig for too much longer.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 10:49:25 AM
Wake Forest hired BGSU's coach.

Apparently BGSU's AD is an Auburn guy who loves Gus, and some people think he will at least interview Rhett Lashlee to consider bringing the Springdale HUNH to BGSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2013, 10:50:18 AM
Apparently, he was fired from Nebraska for having an affair with a student while his wife was pregnant with twins?
Did he have a snowmobile wreck with her on the back?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: oddi on December 10, 2013, 10:56:01 AM
Apparently, he was fired from Nebraska for having an affair with a student while his wife was pregnant with twins?

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 01:03:06 PM
They should combine it into a package deal.  Buy two tix and you get to interview candidates, and get a Danica poster.

You should give their AD a call and set this up pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 10, 2013, 01:20:22 PM
Mack Brown is stepping down at Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on December 10, 2013, 01:22:26 PM
Mack Brown is stepping down at Texas.

SRSLY?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 01:23:27 PM
SRSLY?
According to the Texas Rivals site, which I'm pretty sure has been dead wrong about several big rumors before. Maybe even a "Mack is stepping down" rumor at some point.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 01:27:22 PM
FootballScoop Staff @footballscoop
There is real belief within the profession that Saban will happen. Absolutely fascinating times.

FootballScoop Staff @footballscoop
I also think that 99% of the coaching community was hoping Mack would make this announcement rather than reporters breaking it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 01:27:30 PM
Mack Brown is stepping down at Texas.

Oh this should be fun. Look forward to the corching search on this one. Mack Brown might be just ripe enough to go ahead and take another gig somewhere else.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 01:29:42 PM
Oh this should be fun. Look forward to the corching search on this one. Mack Brown might be just ripe enough to go ahead and take another gig somewhere else.

I really want Saban to go to Texas just to see the Bama fans ensuing meltdown.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 01:29:47 PM
So Saban to Texas

Gruden to Bama.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 10, 2013, 01:29:55 PM
As much as I hate texass, please let the Saban to the whorns rumors be true. 

Bama would probably promote Gomer Smart, and would be back to the Shula/Dumbose days within three or four years.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 01:31:12 PM
Oh this should be fun. Look forward to the corching search on this one. Mack Brown might be just ripe enough to go ahead and take another gig somewhere else.
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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 01:33:31 PM


Dammit.  I've been waiting to use that GIF.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 10, 2013, 01:34:21 PM
As much as I hate texass, please let the Saban to the whorns rumors be true. 

Bama would probably promote Gomer Smart, and would be back to the Shula/Dumbose days within three or four years.

As much as it would help us in recruiting and possibly winning the west, I would hate for Texass to be good again. :notexas:

If true, Stoops may actually have to put some effort into coaching again.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
Bielema to Texas?  He went to three straight Rose Bowls and has a better B1G record than Saban. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 01:37:57 PM
The meltdown really would be great enough in Tuscaloosa to make it all worth it. Especially if Auburn wins the NC and Saban left before the bowl and OU ended up beating Alabama.

Bama took one of the greatest coaches of all time from the state of Texas, and now they return the favor.

Speaking of A&M, it'd be nice to have Texas good again just to keep some recruits away from A&M.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on December 10, 2013, 01:38:05 PM
I really want Saban to go to Texas just to see the Bama fans ensuing meltdown.

Fuck yes. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 01:42:35 PM


(http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/saban.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
Get the fuck out of my conference, Saban.

Alabama will hire Kirby Smart, because their administration operates out of fear of its fanbase and their fans will want Smart.
Right, Boondoggle?


In all seriousness, I think that's exactly what they'd do. And it would be quick.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 10, 2013, 01:44:46 PM
I really want Saban to go to Texas just to see the Bama fans ensuing meltdown.

There'd be people shooting people err'where.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sweet River Baines on December 10, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
So Saban to Texas

Gruden Malzahn to Bama.

FIFY
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 10, 2013, 01:49:04 PM
Get the fuck out of my conference, Saban.

Alabama will hire Kirby Smart, because their administration operates out of fear of its fanbase and their fans will want Smart.
Right, Boondoggle?


In all seriousness, I think that's exactly what they'd do. And it would be quick.

Exactly. 

They have a track record of making dumb ass decisions like that.  After Gomer goes 7-5 a couple of times and gets shit stomped by Auburn they'll remember the formula, about the time Chip Kelly's show cause penalty expires. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 01:49:40 PM
There'd be people shooting people err'where.


Police, ambulances, fire departments, and hospitals across Alabama are on high alert today.

Some prankster paged Saban this morning at the Austin airport.

Alabama Coach Nick Saban Paged at Austin's Airport (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1883677-alabama-coach-nick-saban-paged-at-austins-airport)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 10, 2013, 01:55:12 PM
Does Texas make him the first $10 million/year HC?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 10, 2013, 01:55:15 PM
Oh this should be fun. Look forward to the corching search on this one. Mack Brown might be just ripe enough to go ahead and take another gig somewhere else.

nebraska
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 01:55:37 PM

Police, ambulances, fire departments, and hospitals across Alabama are on high alert today.

Some prankster paged Saban this morning at the Austin airport.

Alabama Coach Nick Saban Paged at Austin's Airport (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1883677-alabama-coach-nick-saban-paged-at-austins-airport)

That's hilarious.  This is going to be highly entertaining.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 10, 2013, 01:56:44 PM
Get the frick out of my conference, Saban.

Alabama will hire Kirby Smart, because their administration operates out of fear of its fanbase and their fans will want Smart.
Right, Boondoggle?


In all seriousness, I think that's exactly what they'd do. And it would be quick.

LSU fans are probably just as giddy to see the Great Satan leave Alabama.

I would think Alabama would try to steal away Miles from LSU, just to keep the hate flowing from Baton Rouge.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 01:59:38 PM
Joe Schad says not so fast. I know he knew a lot on our coaching search. Is he pretty knowledgeable around college coaches in general, or did he just have some special connection here?

Supposedly Texas denies it and their BOR will meet Thursday, but that probably just means they are trying to let Mack resign on his own and in his own time.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: raisinsnacks on December 10, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
Does Texas make him the first $10 million/year HC?

Yes...at Bama.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
Joe Schad says not so fast. I know he knew a lot on our coaching search. Is he pretty knowledgeable around college coaches in general, or did he just have some special connection here?

Supposedly Texas denies it and their BOR will meet Thursday, but that probably just means they are trying to let Mack resign on his own and in his own time.
Chip Brown broke this, just like he did with Dodds stepping down.

Of course...  they denied that about Dodds stepping down too. Dudes went after Chip Brown for being reckless.

Then Dodds stepped down.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 02:02:35 PM
nebraska

Jesus...Mack was making 5.4 million per year. And we are bitching about our guy making 3.5 or whatever.
Nah, dude is 62 years old right now. This aint Kansas State we're talking about. Mack is done getting the big jobs...but I wouldn't put it past him to take a smaller gig somewhere and being good enough to make a bit of noise once and a while.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 10, 2013, 02:04:54 PM
Chip Brown broke this, just like he did with Dodds stepping down.

Of course...  they denied that about Dodds stepping down too. Dudes went after Chip Brown for being reckless.

Then Dodds stepped down.

Is that the OrangeBloods guy who had the scoop on all of the Longhorn Network and conference defection stuff?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 02:05:07 PM
Jesus...Mack was making 5.4 million per year. And we are bitching about our guy making 3.5 or whatever.
Nah, dude is 62 years old right now. This aint Kansas State we're talking about. Mack is done getting the big jobs...but I wouldn't put it past him to take a smaller gig somewhere and being good enough to make a bit of noise once and a while.


Unless he just can't control himself, I don't see why Brown wouldn't take a cush administration job (which Texas is probably offering) and live out the rest of his days in comfort without the stress of coaching. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 02:06:23 PM
Chip Brown broke this, just like he did with Dodds stepping down.

Of course...  they denied that about Dodds stepping down too. Dudes went after Chip Brown for being reckless.

Then Dodds stepped down.
Maybe that's what I was thinking of. I thought Chip was dead wrong about some stuff recently, but maybe I was just remembering part of this story?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Joe Schad says not so fast. I know he knew a lot on our coaching search. Is he pretty knowledgeable around college coaches in general, or did he just have some special connection here?

Supposedly Texas denies it and their BOR will meet Thursday, but that probably just means they are trying to let Mack resign on his own and in his own time.

Probably means Mack agreed to resign then said fuck it...they can fire me. New AD obviously wants his own guy in there. Translation...it's golden handcuff time.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
Is that the OrangeBloods guy who had the scoop on all of the Longhorn Network and conference defection stuff?

Yep.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PorkRyan on December 10, 2013, 02:07:54 PM
Is that the OrangeBloods guy who had the scoop on all of the Longhorn Network and conference defection stuff?

It was Brown or Ketchum.  Both are from orangebloods and both seem to know everything that happens with that program. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: raisinsnacks on December 10, 2013, 02:08:10 PM
Catch ya later, Bryan Harsin.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 02:08:58 PM
Maybe that's what I was thinking of. I thought Chip was dead wrong about some stuff recently, but maybe I was just remembering part of this story?

He was also adamant about A&M to the SEC not happening, and then it happened like the next day.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 02:09:47 PM
Probably means Mack agreed to resign then said fuck it...they can fire me. New AD obviously wants his own guy in there. Translation...it's golden handcuff time.
Nah I'd bet that it just means Texas wants to announce it themselves or at least let Mack announce it, and they're trying to put it off until then and make it look that way.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:10:53 PM
Nah I'd bet that it just means Texas wants to announce it themselves or at least let Mack announce it, and they're trying to put it off until then and make it look that way.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 10, 2013, 02:12:33 PM
Catch ya later, Bryan Harsin.

Harsin to Boise?


Of all days, when I actually have shit to do at work, all this is going down.

Thanks for the updates wupig.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 02:12:34 PM

Unless he just can't control himself, I don't see why Brown wouldn't take a cush administration job (which Texas is probably offering) and live out the rest of his days in comfort without the stress of coaching.

Because he makes 5.4 million coaching and would make 500k as an admin. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 02:14:20 PM
Because he makes 5.4 million coaching and would make 500k as an admin.


I understand there might be a pay cut, but the man is already rich and doesn't necessarily need the money at this point. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:15:10 PM
FootballScoop Staff @footballscoop
Its important to read these "denials" word for word b/c they are crafted carefully. All UT & Mack are saying is he hasn't told anyone yet




And it seems like the Harsin to Boise stuff is gaining a lot more momentum. I've read it probably won't be announced today though, because they have a basketball game tonight or something like that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
Because he makes 5.4 million coaching and would make 500k as an admin.
That's drankin' money.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
LOLZ

@BFeldmanCBS: Mack Brown to 247: "I'm in FL recruiting. If I had decided to step down I sure wouldn't be killing myself down here."
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 02:16:49 PM

I understand there might be a pay cut, but the man is already rich and doesn't necessarily need the money at this point.

Not trying to get in some argument, but not many people voluntarily go from 5.4 million to 500k a year.  Especially when it seems like Mack wants to keep coaching. 

I have no idea how much money he has saved.  But it would suck going from almost 500k a month to making that per year.  That is a pretty significant pay cut.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:18:28 PM
Not trying to get in some argument, but not many people voluntarily go from 5.4 million to 500k a year.  Especially when it seems like Mack wants to keep coaching. 

I have no idea how much money he has saved.  But it would suck going from almost 500k a month to making that per year.  That is a pretty significant pay cut.

He's basically getting fired for that $5.4 mil though.

If he ends up coaching at Texas State, he's going to be getting something like 500k-800k
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 02:18:49 PM
Because he makes 5.4 million coaching and would make 500k as an admin.

Yeah and he can take his Resignation-Out money from Ole Tex and go coach some middle tier program at a cool 2 million a year unless momma says it's time to come home.




Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: raisinsnacks on December 10, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
Harsin to Boise?

No, he's my fantasy candidate for Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 02:24:33 PM
He's basically getting fired for that $5.4 mil though.

If he ends up coaching at Texas State, he's going to be getting something like 500k-800k

I could be wrong (see any of my Drew Morgan posts  :suicide: ) but I don't think Texas has the balls to fire Mack outright, and he seems like he wants to keep coaching.  And he has Jamail and McCombs in his corner, and those two basically run the athletic dept. in Austin.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
I could be wrong (see any of my Drew Morgan posts  :suicide: ) but I don't think Texas has the balls to fire Mack outright, and he seems like he wants to keep coaching.  And he has Jamail and McCombs in his corner, and those two basically run the athletic dept. in Austin.

So you think he's still going to coach there? That's different from what other folks are talking about.

Personally, I think he "retires" and sits out for at least a season.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 02:33:55 PM
So you think he's still going to coach there? That's different from what other folks are talking about.

Personally, I think he "retires" and sits out for at least a season.

I have no idea.  I don't think Texas has the balls to just outright say Mack you are fired.  And I think that he wants to keep coaching and not take some token 500k a year job in the athletic dept.

I think it will be an awkward few days in Austin.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
I have no idea.  I don't think Texas has the balls to just outright say Mack you are fired.  And I think that he wants to keep coaching and not take some token 500k a year job in the athletic dept.

I think it will be an awkward few days in Austin.

If you are the new AD I can see letting this float for a while. It's not on his head to do anything for at least another year or so. Let Mack have one more year...maybe they go back to the plan of getting a serious coach in waiting candidate on the staff and let Mack have the next couple years. By then he will probably for sure be done. It's funny that it seems Texas has been trying (passively) for about 5 years to get him out of there and they just never have the sack to actually pull the trigger. Nobody wants to be the guy that fired a head coach wearing a ring. I guess it's hard for us to imagine most of the current Texas big wigs thinking he's their Darrell Royal but in essence that is exactly what he is.


FWIW:

Iowa State News: It appears that current offensive line coach Chris Klenakis will interview for the offensive coordinator position at Iowa State. Per Local fish wrap in Iowa.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 02:49:58 PM
If you are the new AD I can see letting this float for a while. It's not on his head to do anything for at least another year or so. Let Mack have one more year...maybe they go back to the plan of getting a serious coach in waiting candidate on the staff and let Mack have the next couple years. By then he will probably for sure be done. It's funny that it seems Texas has been trying (passively) for about 5 years to get him out of there and they just never have the sack to actually pull the trigger. Nobody wants to be the guy that fired a head coach wearing a ring. I guess it's hard for us to imagine most of the current Texas big wigs thinking he's their Darrell Royal but in essence that is exactly what he is.

See, they've already tried the Coach-in-waiting thing and then force him out, but wanted it to go over better than Bowden's did at FSU, waited too long to move on it and the CIW left for an actual HC gig.
I think this time it's really done.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 02:51:25 PM
No, he's my fantasy candidate for Texas.
:hmmm:


Chris Bahn
RT @BlueTurf: Just informed that Harsin has withdrawn his name for the #BoiseState job
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 02:56:38 PM
If you are the new AD I can see letting this float for a while. It's not on his head to do anything for at least another year or so. Let Mack have one more year...maybe they go back to the plan of getting a serious coach in waiting candidate on the staff and let Mack have the next couple years. By then he will probably for sure be done. It's funny that it seems Texas has been trying (passively) for about 5 years to get him out of there and they just never have the sack to actually pull the trigger. Nobody wants to be the guy that fired a head coach wearing a ring. I guess it's hard for us to imagine most of the current Texas big wigs thinking he's their Darrell Royal but in essence that is exactly what he is.


FWIW:

Iowa State News: It appears that current offensive line coach Chris Klenakis will interview for the offensive coordinator position at Iowa State. Per Local fish wrap in Iowa.

The new AD is probably like the 8th most powerful person in that athletic department.  None of them have the balls to fire Mack, and it doesn't seem like Mack wants to take an ~85% pay cut at age 62.

I bet he wants to retire at 65 and was counting on that extra 16.5 million over the next three years at a job he obviously loves. . 

You can pretty much do any fucking thing you want if you're making 5 million a year.  Not the case with half a million. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
:hmmm:


Chris Bahn
RT @BlueTurf: Just informed that Harsin has withdrawn his name for the #BoiseState job

I can't feature Texas hiring him. He didn't set the world on fire there. Boise State either didn't make the leap in money or just told him he's not the top choice would be my guess. You don't go after that job and then "withdrawl" without there being something behind it.

The new AD is probably like the 8th most powerful person in that athletic department.  None of them have the balls to fire Mack, and it doesn't seem like Mack wants to take an ~85% pay cut at age 62.

I bet he wants to retire at 65 and was counting on that extra 16.5 million over the next three years at a job he obviously loves. . 

You can pretty much do any fricking thing you want if you're making 5 million a year.  Not the case with half a million. 

With this playoff picture in place...it gives a program like Texas (that is always going to get the benefit) a place at the table come playoff time. Mack probably knows he's got a team in the make that can be in that conversation next year and the year after.

Hey hire Ed O as DC and Lane Kiffin at OC...yeah that's the ticket.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
   

You can pretty much do any fucking thing you want if you're making 5 million a year.  Not the case with half a million.
Try me.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 03:09:48 PM
Yep, looks like Boise is going in a different direction there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 03:19:27 PM
Yep, looks like Boise is going in a different direction there.


Dirk Koetter part deux?

Koetter and Harsin together at BSU in 1998:

(http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2013/12/10/01/12/5c4dv.AuSt.36.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 03:21:37 PM
If they go back to Koetter, I'll laugh my ass off...

I think this means Wilcox isn't staying around at Washington or going to USC, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
Try me.

500k turns into 275ish after taxes.  His wife wants to take a private jet from Austin to Paris, then another private jet from Paris to Dubai, then another private jet from Dubai back to Austin. 

If you make 5.4 million that costs you about a months salary.  If you make 500k a year, you have no money left.

Anyone acting like money isn't an issue here is pretty naive.  Also, acting like Mack has just been banking all of his income for the last 15 years and has 20-40 million sitting around doesn't know that 60 year old house wives who have millionaire husbands like nice things.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
FWIW

Bruce Feldman @BFeldmanCBS
Heard from two sources who said the @ChipBrownOB report about Mack Brown being out at #Texas will prove accurate.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
500k turns into 275ish after taxes.  His wife wants to take a private jet from Austin to Paris, then another private jet from Paris to Dubai, then another private jet from Dubai back to Austin. 

If you make 5.4 million that costs you about a months salary.  If you make 500k a year, you have no money left.

Anyone acting like money isn't an issue here is pretty naive.  Also, acting like Mack has just been banking all of his income for the last 15 years and has 20-40 million sitting around doesn't know that 60 year old house wives who have millionaire husbands like nice things.

Acting like Mack has any leverage financially is a bit naive, too.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 10, 2013, 03:29:26 PM
500k turns into 275ish after taxes.  His wife wants to take a private jet from Austin to Paris, then another private jet from Paris to Dubai, then another private jet from Dubai back to Austin. 

If you make 5.4 million that costs you about a months salary.  If you make 500k a year, you have no money left.

Anyone acting like money isn't an issue here is pretty naive.  Also, acting like Mack has just been banking all of his income for the last 15 years and has 20-40 million sitting around doesn't know that 60 year old house wives who have millionaire husbands like nice things.
Momma gonna hafta cut back. That 5.4mil per year is going away pronto.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
If they go back to Koetter, I'll laugh my ass off...

I think this means Wilcox isn't staying around at Washington or going to USC, though.


Interestingly, there's another former BSU coach out there who needs a coaching job . . .

(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/455036/houstonnutt.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: woopiginaustin on December 10, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
60 year old house wives who have millionaire husbands like nice things.

lol

Mack's wife makes much, much more than Mack ever will.

She owns half of North Carolina.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
lol

Mack's wife makes much, much more than Mack ever will.

She owns half of North Carolina.

She owns Sakerlina?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 10, 2013, 03:38:38 PM
She owns Sakerlina?


Sally Brown's a badass. (http://www.austinwomanmagazine.com/sally-brown)

And yes, I just posted a link from Austin Woman Magazine. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 10, 2013, 03:40:34 PM
Didn't realize Koetter took over for HDN.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 03:41:49 PM

Sally Brown's a badass. (http://www.austinwomanmagazine.com/sally-brown)

And yes, I just posted a link from Austin Woman Magazine.

Just read the same article. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
Everyone should read this article. It's about how bad QB recruiting led to Texas downfall. This should be enough to get Mack fired.  Just to name a few quarterbacks Mack passed on/failed to land...

Mallett
Stafford
Tannehill
Nck Foles
Manziel
RG3
Darron Tomas
James Franklin
Jameis Winston

http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/How-Awful-QB-Recruiting-Led-to-Mack-Browns-Downfall-At-Texas-10-136-515
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2013, 03:45:38 PM
500k turns into 275ish after taxes.  His wife wants to take a private jet from Austin to Paris, then another private jet from Paris to Dubai, then another private jet from Dubai back to Austin. 

If you make 5.4 million that costs you about a months salary.  If you make 500k a year, you have no money left.

Anyone acting like money isn't an issue here is pretty naive.  Also, acting like Mack has just been banking all of his income for the last 15 years and has 20-40 million sitting around doesn't know that 60 year old house wives who have millionaire husbands like nice things.
I just need drank,smoke and outboard motor fuel. And jigs and fishing line. It would go a long ways.
Oh yeah, grease meal/flour and taters. Maybe some .22 bullets. Gasoline, propane.
I can live a year off of what one 2 week trip to Paris costs.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 03:49:45 PM
All you guys arguing this $5M vs. $500k thing are missing one major factor...ego.  We all have it at various levels, but for somebody that's been at that level for that amount of time, it has to be enormous and more influential that simple cash.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
All you guys arguing this $5M vs. $500k thing are missing one major factor...ego.  We all have it at various levels, but for somebody that's been at that level for that amount of time, it has to be enormous and more influential that simple cash.
It's a pointless discussion anyway. If Mack resigns, it's not out of the goodness of his heart or because he has plenty of money saved up. It's because he is being forced to.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mr A Ziffell on December 10, 2013, 03:57:22 PM
I just need drank,smoke and outboard motor fuel. And jigs and fishing line. It would go a long ways.
Oh yeah, grease meal/flour and taters. Maybe some .22 bullets. Gasoline, propane.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 10, 2013, 04:00:40 PM
Mack Brown would be a good fit at Arkansas.  He and Mrs Brown can catch that direct NWA/RDU flight, which is a drive and a long iron from her Chapel Hill development she loves! 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 10, 2013, 04:18:03 PM

You don't catch shit when you jerk at the first nibble, you gotta let them swaller it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 04:28:43 PM
Everyone should read this article. It's about how bad QB recruiting led to Texas downfall. This should be enough to get Mack fired.  Just to name a few quarterbacks Mack passed on/failed to land...

Mallett
Stafford
Tannehill
Nck Foles
Bonfire
RG3
Darron Tomas
James Franklin
Jameis Winston

http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/How-Awful-QB-Recruiting-Led-to-Mack-Browns-Downfall-At-Texas-10-136-515

As much as I hate them with a passion, the reality is that Texas almost always gets to select the cream of the crop in-state and everybody else fights over the leftovers.  Generally speaking. 

That said, that article perfectly sums up and personifies the unrealistic arrogance and delusion of a Longhorn fan.  Take away the whole hindsight 20/20 thing, but that author is clueless of what actually went down at the time.  I barely made it through most of the players, but remembering back (and it wasn't long ago!):

Give me a damn break with some of this shit.  I say good for Mack if he leaves.  A bunch of tea-sipping cocksuckers around that place.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: woopiginaustin on December 10, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
As much as I hate them with a passion, the reality is that Texas almost always gets to select the cream of the crop in-state and everybody else fights over the leftovers.  Generally speaking. 

That said, that article perfectly sums up and personifies the unrealistic arrogance and delusion of a Longhorn fan.  Take away the whole hindsight 20/20 thing, but that author is clueless of what actually went down at the time.  I barely made it through most of the players, but remembering back (and it wasn't long ago!):
  • Luck was never, ever going to Austin.  EVER.  Had no desire and was dead-set on going to an elite academic school.  Starkville, he seriously thought about going to Rice!  Harbaugh did a great job recruiting and was the deciding factor there.
  • Snead was viewed as "can't miss" by almost the entire free world.
  • Mallet was thought of highly (on the cover of Dave Campbell - I still have it), wasn't necessarily viewed as a good fit for them (they were used to mobile and just watched Vince Young win the MNC) and they were LOADED at the position at the time.
  • Stafford was thought to be a "system QB" out of Southlake Carroll.
  • Tannehill and Foles?  Seriously?  Like Texas is going to go after the #99 player in the state when they are stocked at the position.  Starkville, had they signed either one, the fans would've been wanting to hold lynchings on signing day.

Give me a damn break with some of this aMm.  I say good for Mack if he leaves.  A bunch of tea-sipping cocksuckers around that place.

Exactly

The article is an arrogant assumption that most of them were Longhorns at heart, just waiting a chance to wear burnt orange. Get real.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
You guys are probably right and definitely know more about the situation around Texas football than I do, but passing on the last 3 Heisman winners (assuming Winston has it locked up this year)  looks pretty damn bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
You guys are probably right and definitely know more about the situation around Texas football than I do, but passing on the last 3 Heisman winners (assuming Winston has it locked up this year)  looks pretty damn bad.

Winston was never going to Texas.  Texas definitely passed on Manziel, and wanted RG3 to play defensive back.  Ouch.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Winston was never going to Texas.  Texas definitely passed on Manziel, and wanted RG3 to play defensive back.  Ouch.

Well I am starting to question the accuracy of the article I posted but they put this quote in there when referencing Winston.


“If I’d gotten offer from Texas, I’d be going to Texas right now.” Winston told ESPN’s Brett McMurphy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 04:45:07 PM
As much as I hate them with a passion, the reality is that Texas almost always gets to select the cream of the crop in-state and everybody else fights over the leftovers.  Generally speaking. 

That said, that article perfectly sums up and personifies the unrealistic arrogance and delusion of a Longhorn fan.  Take away the whole hindsight 20/20 thing, but that author is clueless of what actually went down at the time.  I barely made it through most of the players, but remembering back (and it wasn't long ago!):
  • Luck was never, ever going to Austin.  EVER.  Had no desire and was dead-set on going to an elite academic school.  Starkville, he seriously thought about going to Rice!  Harbaugh did a great job recruiting and was the deciding factor there.
  • Snead was viewed as "can't miss" by almost the entire free world.
  • Mallet was thought of highly (on the cover of Dave Campbell - I still have it), wasn't necessarily viewed as a good fit for them (they were used to mobile and just watched Vince Young win the MNC) and they were LOADED at the position at the time.
  • Stafford was thought to be a "system QB" out of Southlake Carroll.
  • Tannehill and Foles?  Seriously?  Like Texas is going to go after the #99 player in the state when they are stocked at the position.  Starkville, had they signed either one, the fans would've been wanting to hold lynchings on signing day.

Give me a damn break with some of this aMm.  I say good for Mack if he leaves.  A bunch of tea-sipping cocksuckers around that place.

Part of what you said aligns with some of the criticism Mack and his staff have gotten. One of the biggest issues has been them failing to properly evaluate talent. They got lazy, signed the highest rated kids in the state based on the recruiting experts, and ended up with highly ranked classes. They either didn't do the homework themselves or weren't very good at it.

EDIT... This reminded me of two tweets from Bruce Feldman earlier today...

@BFeldmanCBS Mack Brown to 247: "I'm in FL recruiting. If I had decided to step down I sure wouldn't be killing myself down here." Said not stepping down

@BFeldmanCBS Just got this text from a college coach: "Great quote by Mack 'killing himself"..That's what other people call 'working'"
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: BigEarn on December 10, 2013, 04:54:33 PM
As much as I hate them with a passion, the reality is that Texas almost always gets to select the cream of the crop in-state and everybody else fights over the leftovers.  Generally speaking. 

That said, that article perfectly sums up and personifies the unrealistic arrogance and delusion of a Longhorn fan.  Take away the whole hindsight 20/20 thing, but that author is clueless of what actually went down at the time.  I barely made it through most of the players, but remembering back (and it wasn't long ago!):
  • Luck was never, ever going to Austin.  EVER.  Had no desire and was dead-set on going to an elite academic school.  Starkville, he seriously thought about going to Rice!  Harbaugh did a great job recruiting and was the deciding factor there.
  • Snead was viewed as "can't miss" by almost the entire free world.
  • Mallet was thought of highly (on the cover of Dave Campbell - I still have it), wasn't necessarily viewed as a good fit for them (they were used to mobile and just watched Vince Young win the MNC) and they were LOADED at the position at the time.
  • Stafford was thought to be a "system QB" out of Southlake Carroll.
  • Tannehill and Foles?  Seriously?  Like Texas is going to go after the #99 player in the state when they are stocked at the position.  Starkville, had they signed either one, the fans would've been wanting to hold lynchings on signing day.

Give me a damn break with some of this aMm.  I say good for Mack if he leaves.  A bunch of tea-sipping cocksuckers around that place.

Stafford went to Highland Park. He did run a spread but threw the ball to 5'8-5'10 slower than Christmas white kids unlike Mustain who had Damian Williams and Cleveland.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 04:56:38 PM
Stafford went to Highland Park. He did run a spread but threw the ball to 5'8-5'10 slower than Christmas white kids unlike Mustain who had Damian Williams and Cleveland.
And he was a 5* recruit that was right up there with Mustain as the top two QBs in the country. I never heard about him being a system QB, but either way he was a highly regarded recruit and whether Texas whiffed on him or didn't want him, they still screwed up.

And when you say Texas was "loaded" after Vince Young won the NC, that's just not true. They just thought they were loaded, which is their mistake and kind of the point.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 10, 2013, 04:57:28 PM
Well I am starting to question the accuracy of the article I posted but they put this quote in there when referencing Winston.


“If I’d gotten offer from Texas, I’d be going to Texas right now.” Winston told ESPN’s Brett McMurphy.

He was the #1 qb in the country and it was always between Bama and FSU.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on December 10, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Part of what you said aligns with some of the criticism Mack and his staff have gotten. One of the biggest issues has been them failing to properly evaluate talent. They got lazy, signed the highest rated kids in the state based on the recruiting experts, and ended up with highly ranked classes. They either didn't do the homework themselves or weren't very good at it.

EDIT... This reminded me of two tweets from Bruce Feldman earlier today...

@BFeldmanCBS Mack Brown to 247: "I'm in FL recruiting. If I had decided to step down I sure wouldn't be killing myself down here." Said not stepping down

@BFeldmanCBS Just got this text from a college coach: "Great quote by Mack 'killing himself"..That's what other people call 'working'"

I've posted this before but Bobby Bowden says the reason his teams weren't winning towards the end of his career is because they offered almost every 5* without even seeing the film.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on December 10, 2013, 05:04:18 PM
Everyone should read this article. It's about how bad QB recruiting led to Texas downfall. This should be enough to get Mack fired.  Just to name a few quarterbacks Mack passed on/failed to land...

Mallett
Stafford
Tannehill
Nck Foles
Bonfire
RG3
Darron Tomas
James Franklin
Jameis Winston

http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/How-Awful-QB-Recruiting-Led-to-Mack-Browns-Downfall-At-Texas-10-136-515

I've been saying that exact thing for three years. Glad the media finally noticed.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 10, 2013, 05:09:07 PM
Gil Brandt @Gil_Brandt
Just told by source Nick Saban in contract negotiations w #Alabama for extension in $7M/year range.


 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 10, 2013, 05:10:15 PM
As much as I hate them with a passion, the reality is that Texas almost always gets to select the cream of the crop in-state and everybody else fights over the leftovers.  Generally speaking. 

That said, that article perfectly sums up and personifies the unrealistic arrogance and delusion of a Longhorn fan.  Take away the whole hindsight 20/20 thing, but that author is clueless of what actually went down at the time.  I barely made it through most of the players, but remembering back (and it wasn't long ago!):
  • Luck was never, ever going to Austin.  EVER.  Had no desire and was dead-set on going to an elite academic school.  Starkville, he seriously thought about going to Rice!  Harbaugh did a great job recruiting and was the deciding factor there.
  • Snead was viewed as "can't miss" by almost the entire free world.
  • Mallet was thought of highly (on the cover of Dave Campbell - I still have it), wasn't necessarily viewed as a good fit for them (they were used to mobile and just watched Vince Young win the MNC) and they were LOADED at the position at the time.
  • Stafford was thought to be a "system QB" out of Southlake Carroll.
  • Tannehill and Foles?  Seriously?  Like Texas is going to go after the #99 player in the state when they are stocked at the position.  Starkville, had they signed either one, the fans would've been wanting to hold lynchings on signing day.

Give me a damn break with some of this aMm.  I say good for Mack if he leaves.  A bunch of tea-sipping cocksuckers around that place.

Texas has had a string of QBs that everyone thought were absolute "can't miss" types.  Top-rated nationally like Gilbert and Ash, that turned out to be way over-rated and/or weren't developed at Texas.  It wasn't just Snead.

If the kids didn't want to go to UT, you can hold that against Brown as well.  That's why you go out and recruit them rather than waiting for them to come to you.  Obviously Sherman thought Manziel was worth a scholie and Briles thought Griffin could play QB, but Brown couldn't.  Texas' staff flat out sucks at talent evaluation and development.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
Stafford went to Highland Park. He did run a spread but threw the ball to 5'8-5'10 slower than Christmas white kids unlike Mustain who had Damian Williams and Cleveland.

Sorry - Getting my slow white guys mixed up.  Point remains the same - he was highly-recruited, but he had that moniker on him, right or wrong (obviously wrong in hindsight). 

And he was a 5* recruit that was right up there with Mustain as the top two QBs in the country. I never heard about him being a system QB, but either way he was a highly regarded recruit and whether Texas whiffed on him or didn't want him, they still screwed up.

And when you say Texas was "loaded" after Vince Young won the NC, that's just not true. They just thought they were loaded, which is their mistake and kind of the point.

By everyone's standards, based on recruiting, they were loaded.  Back in the early days of the Woppussy, it was a constant joke around here and their "recruiting national championships, but no actual rings" (then the 2006 Rose Bowl happened).  Problem was, they had the same problem many others do in that a large portion of their recruits were busts.  Starkville, look no further than the Hogs over the last 5 years.  Only difference is most of ours didn't start out 4 and 5 star recruits.  Everybody whiffs.  Even Saban, although he's got a better track record and its most likely the "putting in work" that is mentioned here.  There's that arrogance again.

   
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 05:21:46 PM
Texas has had a string of QBs that everyone thought were absolute "can't miss" types.  Top-rated nationally like Gilbert and Ash, that turned out to be way over-rated and/or weren't developed at Texas.  It wasn't just Snead.

If the kids didn't want to go to UT, you can hold that against Brown as well.  That's why you go out and recruit them rather than waiting for them to come to you.  Obviously Sherman thought Bonfire was worth a scholie and Briles thought Griffin could play QB, but Brown couldn't.  Texas' staff flat out sucks at talent evaluation and development.

I think Mack is suffering a bit from what eventually got Nolan - he felt/feels that he can select and not recruit.   More arrogance.  A vicious cycle of narcissism in that place.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on December 10, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
Texas has had a string of QBs that everyone thought were absolute "can't miss" types.  Top-rated nationally like Gilbert and Ash, that turned out to be way over-rated and/or weren't developed at Texas.  It wasn't just Snead.

If the kids didn't want to go to UT, you can hold that against Brown as well.  That's why you go out and recruit them rather than waiting for them to come to you.  Obviously Sherman thought Bonfire was worth a scholie and Briles thought Griffin could play QB, but Brown couldn't.  Texas' staff flat out sucks at talent evaluation and development.

Thats why i dont understand why they hired the HC from Memphis. Hes a hired gun recruiter, you dont need that at Texas, you need a teacher and evaluator.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Snowman Slayer on December 10, 2013, 05:28:51 PM
Thats why i dont understand why they hired the HC from Memphis. Hes a hired gun recruiter, you dont need that at Texas, you need a teacher and evaluator.
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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 10, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
Jesus...Mack was making 5.4 million per year. And we are bitching about our guy making 3.5 or whatever.


If Bielema can get us to a few Cotton Bowls, a couple Fiesta-like Bowls, then a BCS Bowl and we keep him, and he wins a championship in year 7 or 8, I'd be happy to give my support to a raise to 5.4 million and keep him after yet two more BCS Bowls and a NC game appearance.  And no, nobody would have the right to bitch, even if his last 3 years were a little over .500.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on December 10, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
(http://www.collegefootballzealots.com/images/stories/bbielema.jpg)

Coach had some firm tits back then.  :stache:

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 10, 2013, 05:36:35 PM

By everyone's standards, based on recruiting, they were loaded.  Back in the early days of the Woppussy, it was a constant joke around here and their "recruiting national championships, but no actual rings" (then the 2006 Rose Bowl happened).  Problem was, they had the same problem many others do in that a large portion of their recruits were busts.  Starkville, look no further than the Hogs over the last 5 years.  Only difference is most of ours didn't start out 4 and 5 star recruits.  Everybody whiffs.  Even Saban, although he's got a better track record and its most likely the "putting in work" that is mentioned here.  There's that arrogance again.

 
Like I said, that's kind of the point. Whether they lacked the ability to evaluate recruits, or lacked the ability to develop them once they got there...that falls on the coaches. They haven't had a decent QB since Vince Young. They have several in-state guys go on to do great things at other places, while no QBs they have recruited since then have lived up to the hype. Once or twice, that might be a coincidence. After 6-7 years of the same thing happening with multiple guys, it's not a coincidence any more...it's on the coaches.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Texas adores Mack and keeps him around a while, but he should be fired, and his poor QB play while letting countless big time guys get out of his state is a big part of it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 10, 2013, 05:51:31 PM
Like I said, that's kind of the point. Whether they lacked the ability to evaluate recruits, or lacked the ability to develop them once they got there...that falls on the coaches. They haven't had a decent QB since Vince Young. They have several in-state guys go on to do great things at other places, while no QBs they have recruited since then have lived up to the hype. Once or twice, that might be a coincidence. After 6-7 years of the same thing happening with multiple guys, it's not a coincidence any more...it's on the coaches.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Texas adores Mack and keeps him around a while, but he should be fired, and his poor QB play while letting countless big time guys get out of his state is a big part of it.

He did have Colt McCoy right after Young, but your point is valid and yes, we're saying the same thing - Mack should be gone.  They are justified in firing him, especially given all of their resources and local talent pool, but that still doesn't make them any less of arrogant cocksuckers, which was my original point.  In short, fuck Texas. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: SoldierSooie on December 10, 2013, 06:01:29 PM
In short, fuck Texas.

Yes.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 06:16:34 PM
They haven't had a decent QB since Vince Young.

Colt McCoy doesn't rate?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 10, 2013, 06:24:10 PM
allegedly, Texas offering Saban 10 years, 100mm with a % of the Longhorn Network.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 10, 2013, 06:32:04 PM
allegedly, Texas offering Saban 10 years, 100mm with a % of the Longhorn Network.

 :o
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 10, 2013, 06:36:51 PM
I have no idea. 

That was a good stopping point.

The new AD is probably like the 8th most powerful person in that athletic department.  None of them have the balls to fire Mack, and it doesn't seem like Mack wants to take an ~85% pay cut at age 62.

I bet he wants to retire at 65 and was counting on that extra 16.5 million over the next three years at a job he obviously loves. . 

You can pretty much do any fucking thing you want if you're making 5 million a year.  Not the case with half a million. 

Should have stuck with that first part of the first post.

500k turns into 275ish after taxes.  His wife wants to take a private jet from Austin to Paris, then another private jet from Paris to Dubai, then another private jet from Dubai back to Austin. 

If you make 5.4 million that costs you about a months salary.  If you make 500k a year, you have no money left.

Anyone acting like money isn't an issue here is pretty naive.  Also, acting like Mack has just been banking all of his income for the last 15 years and has 20-40 million sitting around doesn't know that 60 year old house wives who have millionaire husbands like nice things.

See? You still have no idea! Just make some more shit up!

Winston was never going to Texas. 

Still having no idea. You're on a roll, today.

He was the #1 qb in the country and it was always between Bama and FSU.

So Jameis is not only a rapist, but also a liar? Seems like it.



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HRC on December 10, 2013, 06:38:07 PM
allegedly, Texas offering Saban 10 years, 100mm with a % of the Longhorn Network.

Reported from where? Not doubting you but that sounds like complete bullshit. It would be miles above what any college or pro coach would make. Texas doesn't need to hire Saban. They just need to hire someone not named Mack who can stop brainfarting on QBs. It's a simple formula.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on December 10, 2013, 06:38:27 PM
allegedly, Texas offering Saban 10 years, 100mm with a % of the Longhorn Network.

So that's 100 mil + $48 in 10 years. Good for him and I hope he takes it, even if it seems Gus done runt him off.  :stache:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 10, 2013, 06:39:14 PM
Reported from where? Not doubting you but that sounds like complete bullshit. It would be miles above what any college or pro coach would make. Texas doesn't need to hire Saban. They just need to hire someone not named Mack who can stop brainfarting on QBs. It's a simple formula.

It's allegedly. Allegedly from his ass.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 10, 2013, 06:41:54 PM
Reported from where? Not doubting you but that sounds like complete bullshit. It would be miles above what any college or pro coach would make. Texas doesn't need to hire Saban. They just need to hire someone not named Mack who can stop brainfarting on QBs. It's a simple formula.

Shaggy Bevo is linking this
http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/university_of_texas_ready_to_make_nick_saban_huge_offer/14569486
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HRC on December 10, 2013, 06:46:19 PM
Shaggy Bevo is linking this
http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/university_of_texas_ready_to_make_nick_saban_huge_offer/14569486

Thanks for the link but there isn't much in it. Really nothing more than is posted here and that site is called yardbarker? It was one paragraph that anybody could've written. Again, thanks for the link but I don't see any way in the world this is close to accurate.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 06:47:12 PM
Reported from where? Not doubting you but that sounds like complete bullshit. It would be miles above what any college or pro coach would make. Texas doesn't need to hire Saban. They just need to hire someone not named Mack who can stop brainfarting on QBs. It's a simple formula.

You're right, but this is arrogant Texas we're talking about.  They can't just quietly hire the right guy. They have to make a splash.

Unrelated- I'm sure it's been mentioned, but there's a big power struggle right now at UT between the president, governor, etc, that could (and hopefully) turn this into a huge clusterfuck.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 10, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
Thanks for the link but there isn't much in it. Really nothing more than is posted here and that site is called yardbarker? It was one paragraph that anybody could've written. Again, thanks for the link but I don't see any way in the world this is close to accurate.

Hey no shit.

That's Payton/Belichick money.  No way.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Green_Lanternn on December 10, 2013, 06:50:47 PM
Shaggy Bevo is linking this
http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/university_of_texas_ready_to_make_nick_saban_huge_offer/14569486

The butthurt will be fierce when Saban plays them for a nice raise from Bama, then,  "big name" coaches start getting locked up with new contracts (sextoning).  If they swing big and miss on Saban who's a candidate?

I'll throw Mark Richt out there.  Who else?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 10, 2013, 06:51:58 PM
Shaggy Bevo is linking this
http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/university_of_texas_ready_to_make_nick_saban_huge_offer/14569486
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 06:52:50 PM
Reported from where? Not doubting you but that sounds like complete bullshit. It would be miles above what any college or pro coach would make. Texas doesn't need to hire Saban. They just need to hire someone not named Mack who can stop brainfarting on QBs. It's a simple formula.

I know a guy that has some very simple requirements, something about volleyball and Harley motorcycles..
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
All this does is remind Saban of that stupid fucking Longhorn network where he has to give access to his practices and do all kinds of extra stuff. Plus hasn't the Longhorn Network been a giant failure so far?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 07:00:58 PM
I'll go ahead and pitch Larry Fedora to Texas, they raped UNC once before and Fedora seems to have the pedigree they need and would like at Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 10, 2013, 07:01:28 PM
Not only has Mack Brown been sloppy with the recruiting and development of QBs, the rest of the positions have suffered similarly.  One bad habit the teasippers fell into was getting commitments from sophomores and juniors and actually keeping them; a lot happens to a kid from 16 to 18, whether they grow too much or not enough, or fail to be competitors, or hate practice, or find out about pussy, or smoke too much weed, Texas just got lazy. 

Coaching is hard work, and college coaching is probably the hardest because of the recruiting requirement.  If there is anything to be learned from JFB (pre-PawPaw era) is that he understood recruiting (as in selling a kid on coming all the way to Fayetteville from out of state) and required that his assistants not only go on the road, but be effective on the road.  Lance Alworth, Joe Ferguson, Bill Montgomery, Calcagni, etc had no plans to go to Arkansas until they got recruited by JFB and his crew, most of whom carried the same discipline to their own programs.

In a day where coaches and coordinators make millions, most of them will be lazy and not watch the hours of film, talk to the kids, and get on the road to know which 4 stars are overhyped, and which 2 stars are future stars.  Hopefully, BB and crew remain hungry enough to be eating rubber chicken at the DeQueen and Mena football banquets.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 10, 2013, 07:08:55 PM
All this does is remind Saban of that stupid fucking Longhorn network where he has to give access to his practices and do all kinds of extra stuff. Plus hasn't the Longhorn Network been a giant failure so far?

I can't see Saban putting in all the time that the  :notexas: job requires outside of coaching/recruiting. Every coach has to glad hand the big wigs, but unless there's going to be a change in how they run the program, I don't see him putting in the face time that Mack has. Then again $10 mil/yr might make it a little easier.

As for the longhorn network, the joke's on ESPN. Texass gets their $300 million whether anyone watches or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 07:09:14 PM
All this does is remind Saban of that stupid fricking Longhorn network where he has to give access to his practices and do all kinds of extra stuff. Plus hasn't the Longhorn Network been a giant failure so far?

I think the LHN is a big turn off for some coaches. Not that these guys are all candidates, but can you imagine someone like Petrino, Patterson, Saban or Leach having to deal with that shit?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 07:18:54 PM
I think the LHN is a big turn off for some coaches. Not that these guys are all candidates, but can you imagine someone like Petrino, Patterson, Saban or Leach having to deal with that shit?

Nope all this rumor does is make me remember the Longhorn Network actually exists and I can't imagine Saban allowing access to his practices and whatever else they have to do.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 10, 2013, 07:19:22 PM
I think the LHN is a big turn off for some coaches. Not that these guys are all candidates, but can you imagine someone like Petrino, Patterson, Saban or Leach having to deal with that shit?

I know who would eat that shit up...




DABO!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
If I were Saban I would take the money and tell the Longhorn Network they can film the kickers every practice.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: pinkphiloyd on December 10, 2013, 07:30:39 PM
If I were Saban I would take the money and tell the Longhorn Network they can film the kickers every practice.

I'd take the deal, then crawfish and drill that ol' devil in the ass.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 10, 2013, 07:31:06 PM
The last time Bevo was on the Ticket he was complaining that Mack Brown often snuck into the barn to ass rape him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: gambler on December 10, 2013, 07:33:36 PM
I know a guy that has some very simple requirements, something about volleyball and Harley motorcycles..
There's another guy that just wants a good texting plan.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 10, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
I know who would eat that aMm up...




DABO!!!
Dabo or Mora is who they'll settle on.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on December 10, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
They should hire Petrino.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 10, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
They should hire Petrino.

Yep
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 10, 2013, 07:54:11 PM
They should hire Petrino.

Maybe they should but they won't.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 10, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
They should hire Petrino.

Saban goes to Texas and as Hog fans rejoice Bama announces Petrino as their new head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Satchuation on December 10, 2013, 08:29:08 PM
Saban goes to Texas and as Hog fans rejoice Bama announces Petrino as their new head coach.

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LaMoHog on December 10, 2013, 08:30:30 PM
Saban goes to Texas and as Hog fans rejoice Bama announces Petrino as their new head coach.

That'd be some shit.....
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 10, 2013, 08:33:32 PM
That'd be some aMm.....

Wait, what are worried about? BMFP cannot recroot.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 10, 2013, 09:15:56 PM
So let me get this straight.  Texas hires Saban, then Bama hires Petrino, and suddenly we're all supposed to shit our pants now? 
Anybody who sees that as anything but a net win for the rest of the West has lost their everfugging minds.  Bobby's a damn good coach, but Jesus H guys.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 10, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
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ossum   :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 10, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
Not sure that's necessarily a good move for him.  He was already becoming a legend at ND State.  Granted, its a D-II school or whatever subdivision they call it, but talk about owning the damn place.  Hell, they even hosted College Gameday.  In Fargo, ND for pete's sake!

Not saying moving on at some point didn't make sense, but I'm thinking he could've scored better than Wyoming.  Possibly even going back to Nebraska.
Laramie's kind of a shit hole. Especially in winter.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 10, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
So you think he's still going to coach there? That's different from what other folks are talking about.

Personally, I think he "retires" and sits out for at least a season.

he could always run the basketball program into the ground as well.  :-/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 10, 2013, 10:15:57 PM
has Hootie announce he's not interested/very interested/fat and stupid yet?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 10, 2013, 10:36:45 PM
he could always run the basketball program into the ground as well.  :-/

I don't think Rick Barnes needs any help with that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on December 10, 2013, 11:17:02 PM
I still think chip Kelley is a legit candidate....not as much as I did
Prior to winning streak
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 10, 2013, 11:48:29 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 11, 2013, 12:03:37 AM
Rumors have it Texas has offered Saban a contract for $7MM annually, along with 1% of the profits from the Longhorn Network, and a $1MM annual payment for life in retirement.  He has accepted but they are waiting on the Mack Brown situation to settle.
I heard this from somebody yesterday and now I just saw it on twitter.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 11, 2013, 12:06:28 AM
Rumors have it Texas has offered Saban a contract for $7MM annually, along with 1% of the profits from the Longhorn Network, and a $1MM annual payment for life in retirement.  He has accepted but they are waiting on the Mack Brown situation to settle.
I heard this from somebody yesterday and now I just saw it on twitter.

Waiting on the Mack Brown situation to settle before making the Saban hiring official huh?

Sounds legit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Vito Porkleone on December 11, 2013, 12:15:03 AM
There's some gold in here...

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2013/12/10/5197040/mack-brown-prepares-his-farewell-speech (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2013/12/10/5197040/mack-brown-prepares-his-farewell-speech)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 11, 2013, 03:52:15 AM
Saban goes to Texas and as Hog fans rejoice Bama announces Petrino as their new head coach.

So, in three to four years Bama will be down again.  I can deal with this scenario.  It's way better than Saban sticking around, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on December 11, 2013, 08:17:28 AM
Harslin resigned.  Wtf?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 11, 2013, 08:31:59 AM
Harslin resigned.  Wtf?

Boise.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 11, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Harslin resigned.  Wtf?

resigned or resigned?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on December 11, 2013, 08:33:18 AM
resigned or resigned?

ReASsigned to Boise

LOL HOWL
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 08:37:26 AM
Where are you guys getting the info on Harsin?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 11, 2013, 08:40:12 AM
Where are you guys getting the info on Harsin?

Obviously from Woopig, dumbass.   :stache:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 08:41:48 AM
Obviously from Woopig, dumbass.   :stache:

@footballscoop
Boise State: Sources confirm to us that Bryan Harsin will be the new head coach at Boise State. Update> ESPN and others confirming the same now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bogey7 on December 11, 2013, 08:47:12 AM
http://www.kait8.com/story/24191723/harsin-boise-state-bound-asu-coaching-search-begins-again
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 11, 2013, 08:50:27 AM
http://www.kait8.com/story/24191723/harsin-boise-state-bound-asu-coaching-search-begins-again

I've got a Grude feeling about this...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bogey7 on December 11, 2013, 08:52:05 AM
Houston Nutt to the Red courtesy phone.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 08:53:18 AM
 :stunned:
Apparently that early info on Boise wanting to wait until after that basketball game was spot on.


I honestly feel bad for stAte now. They have to go a different direction and get some stability now, not a guy that's just itching to leave at the drop of a hat. I know it was his "dream" job and their President really loved him and all, but this wasn't a big-time SEC gig that just stole your coach, it was a Mountain West school.

Their next coach will be their 5th in 5 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on December 11, 2013, 08:55:16 AM
Hire Houston and be done with it - he'd stay for a while and do okay there....or go the route of someone like Lashlee who you know is way earlier on the career ladder and not likely to jump in 2 years.

It's tough on a program to keep changing head coaches. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 11, 2013, 08:55:49 AM
:hmmm:


Chris Bahn
RT @BlueTurf: Just informed that Harsin has withdrawn his name for the #BoiseState job
More proof nobody knows anything.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 08:57:58 AM
Hire Houston and be done with it - he'd stay for a while and do okay there....or go the route of someone like Lashlee who you know is way earlier on the career ladder and not likely to jump in 2 years.

It's tough on a program to keep changing head coaches.

Why would Lashlee take that job?
Next coach there has to have some struggles ahead. You can't turnover coaches like that and continue to win games.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on December 11, 2013, 09:00:23 AM
Why would Lashlee take that job?

Good point.  I don't really have an answer unless he's just dying to be in charge.  He's way better off being on Malzhan's staff for a number of years and learning the ropes though. 

I'm really impressed with Malzhan.  There's a lot to learn there for a guy like Lashlee. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 09:01:14 AM
Hootie to the Red courtesy phone.

"We wanted to guarantee that nobody would ever take our coach ever again"
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on December 11, 2013, 09:01:51 AM
I've got a Grude feeling about this...

My sister in law saw Gruden last night at Fat City. 

Keep this here.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on December 11, 2013, 09:04:26 AM
They need someone like Keith Burns or James Sheibest.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
ASU short list

Tim Horton
John Thompson
Kevin Kelly
Phil Montgomery
Houston Nutt Jr.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
They're going to be able to get a good coach, but their main concern should be getting someone who will not leave right off the bat. They should make a run at someone like Cristobal.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 09:09:20 AM
More proof nobody knows anything.
Pretty funny that the "Boise of the south" just had their coach stolen by the actual Boise.

As an ASU fan on twitter pointed out, they had stability for a long time and never won like they have the last few years. But Colboar is probably right that it will start to catch up to them. Then again, they aren't winning many recruiting battles anyway, the second tier kids in the state and the surrounding areas would probably like playing for the next big name in coaching every year.

Lashlee would make sense, he'd have to stick around for a couple of years and he probably recruited a lot of the guys on that team. But again, Colboar is probably right(has that ever been said twice in a post before???  :o ) that if he sticks around a couple of years he'll have a shot at a better gig. Then again, Auburn is basically at the top of college football this month so his stock will never be higher. Lots of people are going to be hesitant to hire a young guy who has basically ridden Gus' coattails so if he wants to be a head coach he might want to jump on it while he can.

Really their only choice is fall back to mediocrity or below, or keep losing their coach every year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 09:11:27 AM
Then again, Auburn is basically at the top of college football this month so his stock will never be higher. Lots of people are going to be hesitant to hire a young guy who has basically ridden Gus' coattails so if he wants to be a head coach he might want to jump on it while he can.

That's actually a pretty good point.

I saw where someone mentioned Bowling Green possibly looking at him too. If he's really wanting to be a head coach, this might be a good chance to jump on it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 11, 2013, 09:14:14 AM
Honestly, how much could ASU afford to pay or is willing to pay?

I haven't researched it but I'm sure Lashlee is pulling some pretty good bank being the OC at Aubbie without the headache of running a program. I'm sure he'll eventually get a HC gig one of these days but smart money would be to stay put and ride this one out for a while.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 09:17:01 AM
Honestly, how much could ASU afford to pay or is willing to pay?

I haven't researched it but I'm sure Lashlee is pulling some pretty good bank being the OC at Aubbie without the headache of running a program. I'm sure he'll eventually get a HC gig one of these days but smart money would be to stay put and ride this one out for a while.
I bet ASU would be a raise for him. They've made a lot of money off of buy-outs the last few years, and Malzahn was getting paid next to nothing before his raise so I'm sure Lashlee was much lower.

Edit:

ok fine, I did my own research. Lashlee was getting $350k, ASU was paying their coach $675k, and they paid Malzahn $800k although they probably got that back and then some.

They could easily give Lashlee a raise, but then again if Gus asked I'm sure Auburn would give him a raise as well, may already be planning on it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on December 11, 2013, 09:19:21 AM
Interesting tidbit I found somewhere else - no idea of the accuracy of the claim:

 Alabama has by far and away the largest off the field staff in the country. TWENTY FOUR coaches and ex coaches employed in off the field jobs such as analysts, recruiting jobs and quality control.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: KCHOGS on December 11, 2013, 09:20:19 AM
Without knowing any history of ASU I'd say their AD has a pretty good eye at hiring good up and coming football coaches.  Ole Miss, Auburn, and now Boise State.  So they've been winning while the other schools, already listed, have been paying for their coaches.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 11, 2013, 09:20:42 AM
Interesting tidbit I found somewhere else - no idea of the accuracy of the claim:

 Alabama has by far and away the largest off the field staff in the country. TWENTY FOUR coaches and ex coaches employed in off the field jobs such as analysts, recruiting jobs and quality control.

Damn! The grey shirt everybody!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 09:20:52 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they make it Thompson and hire an OC.  I also can't help but think about their recent success.  Steve Roberts established the base for the current streak, but it was Freeze who really took off with them (and on them, I guess).

It was also Freeze who landed a top recruiting class his second year at Ole Miss.  Maybe Freeze was equally lucky* while recruiting in Jonesboro.  Maybe they're due for a slump when those players are gone anyway.



*dirty
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
My sister in law saw Gruden last night at Fat City. 

Keep this here.

I went to Brownie Town with your sister-in-law.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 11, 2013, 09:23:03 AM
OK I looked it up. Lashlee is pulling $350K at Aubbie.
(edit - Sorry Lash I was looking it up to)

Also, regular people don't understand the competitive fire these guys have. First legit opportunity to be the HC and he may be gone.  As someone pointed out earlier, Auburn stock is high right now. Somebody may take a chance on him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 11, 2013, 09:24:08 AM
They should hire Tim Horton. He will win some games there, get them to a bowl every now and then and never leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
ASU will have 1.75 million more than they did have which I imagine will be spread out and budgeted toward the next coaches salary. Not sure what they were paying Harsin, probably in the area of 500k per.

EDIT...675k per someone else
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on December 11, 2013, 09:25:24 AM
30 is pretty damn young to be head coach at any FCS school.

Just keep hiring the offensive gurus ASU, but seems like Phllip Montgomery would be the better choice. More experience, success at basically every level, started with Briles at Stephensville HS, great system, recruiting ties in east and central Texas, cache of having coached RGIII, Kendall Wright, and Terrance Williams.

ASU could do a lot worse than having the reputation of being the best launching point for great offensive minds to get their first shot as a head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 11, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
Why would Lashlee take that job?

Because their last three coaches are now at Ole Miss, Auburn and Boise State?

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 09:31:29 AM
30 is pretty damn young to be head coach at any FCS school.

Just keep hiring the offensive gurus ASU, but seems like Phllip Montgomery would be the better choice. More experience, success at basically every level, started with Briles at Stephensville HS, great system, recruiting ties in east and central Texas, cache of having coached RGIII, Kendall Wright, and Terrance Williams.

ASU could do a lot worse than having the reputation of being the best launching point for great offensive minds to get their first shot as a head coach.

Yeah I agree that he should be on the interview list. On the other hand he knows he's getting Petty back for another year...he could possibly parlay that into a bigger gig by waiting another year. Also Briles is going to get some looks, possibly Texas, possibly even an NFL opportunity.

ASU: This is going to blow up in someone's face though and these coaches have to know that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 11, 2013, 09:33:31 AM
They need stability and there is no better fine christian man who could give it to them than Rev. Nutt.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 09:37:19 AM
Because their last three coaches are now at Ole Miss, Auburn and Boise State?
The point was, with that instability, there's no way the next coach is hired by a big program next year.

Being a launching point for coaches is fine and all, but nobody there foresaw three each leaving after one year. That kind of instability and turnover can wreck a program.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 09:41:07 AM
Interesting name thrown out on twitter...Orgeron.

He wants a head coaching job and probably wouldn't get offered another one for at least a year or two, maybe more if he is waiting on a big time gig.

He'd recruit well until then, I'm sure.

His wife is supposedly from Arkansas and currently lives in Louisiana, so she'd probably like it too.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 11, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
Being one who loves to troll my ASU friends, this was golden. All yesterday, I was conceding and giving them congratulations on actually keeping a coach. Even though I was still pointing out that "pulled his name out of consideration" really meant wasn't going to get it and trying to save face.

Then today. The old trickaroo, the fumbleruski, the shocker in the stink. This couldn't have happened better. I hate those bastards. You've had 4 winning seasons since 1990 and you want to talk trash over the GoDaddy bowl. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 09:45:24 AM
Interesting name thrown out on twitter...Orgeron.

He wants a head coaching job and probably wouldn't get offered another one for at least a year or two, maybe more if he is waiting on a big time gig.

He'd recruit well until then, I'm sure.

His wife is supposedly from Arkansas and currently lives in Louisiana, so she'd probably like it too.

Pretty sure his wife is from Jonesboro, too.  Didn't Foobaw work for Hatfield?  I assume they met during that time.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 11, 2013, 09:45:54 AM
The point was, with that instability, there's no way the next coach is hired by a big program next year.

Being a launching point for coaches is fine and all, but nobody there foresaw three each leaving after one year. That kind of instability and turnover can wreck a program.

You're right.  No one foresaw Harsin leaving for a big time job as soon as possible.  He wanted to be in Jonesboro, Arkansas for the long haul. 

Arkansas State is the #1 non-BCS school right now if you're an offensive-minded coach who is looking to be a head coach and then move onto a big time school within 1-3 years.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 09:47:49 AM

He wanted to be in Jonesboro, Arkansas for the long haul. 



Said nobody in the history of the world.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 11, 2013, 09:48:12 AM
Maybe stAte should go with a rehabilitation project.  This guy sounds like he's ready to go back to work.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24372078/despite-being-cleared-in-unc-scandal-davis-still-waiting-for-next-gig
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 09:48:41 AM
Pretty sure his wife is from Jonesboro, too.  Didn't Foobaw work for Hatfield?  I assume they met during that time.
Saw somewhere she is from Cave City or something like that but couldn't find that for sure.

He was a strength coach for Hatfield for a couple of years, but he was married to someone else back then. He met his current wife at the Liberty Bowl several years later while the team he was coaching was there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 09:50:33 AM
Saw somewhere she is from Cave City or something like that but couldn't find that for sure.

He was a strength coach for Hatfield for a couple of years, but he was married to someone else back then. He met his current wife at the Liberty Bowl several years later while the team he was coaching was there.

Stalker.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
You're right.  No one foresaw Harsin leaving for a big time job as soon as possible.  He wanted to be in Jonesboro, Arkansas for the long haul. 

Arkansas State is the #1 non-BCS school right now if you're an offensive-minded coach who is looking to be a head coach and then move onto a big time school within 1-3 years.

I never said he was in it for the long haul. I said no one foresaw either of them leaving in one year.

And no offensive mind is going in there and leaving after next season. Someone is going to have to actually build something there at some point.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 11, 2013, 09:51:34 AM

Said nobody in the history of the world.



 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 11, 2013, 09:53:17 AM
FootballScoop Staff ‏@footballscoop 1m

At A-State, the early chatter from coaches is: Tim Horton, Neal Brown, Eddie Gran. Scott Maxfield at Henderson State has connections too

Tim Horton would be a disaster.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 09:57:16 AM
Eddie Gran

We gonna' rock down to. . .Pathetic Avenue.  And then I'll get rehired.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 09:58:49 AM
Maxfield would be an interesting hire.

Wish they'd go after Stitt, if they're wanting to stick with the "offensive minds" theme.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 11, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
Henderson State coach would be a great hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 11, 2013, 10:05:18 AM
That was a good stopping point.

Should have stuck with that first part of the first post.

See? You still have no idea! Just make some more shit up!

Still having no idea. You're on a roll, today.

So Jameis is not only a rapist, but also a liar? Seems like it.

https://twitter.com/TravHaneyESPN/status/410795774167875584

Fuck you.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: WPFM on December 11, 2013, 10:05:42 AM
We gonna' rock down to. . .Pathetic Avenue.  And then I'll get rehired.

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogFeezy on December 11, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
Henderson State coach would be a great hire.
Although I'd hate it for Henderson, that would be an excellent hire for Howlin N Shit and he shouldn't have a reason to leave in a year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 10:07:22 AM
Saw somewhere she is from Cave City or something like that but couldn't find that for sure.

He was a strength coach for Hatfield for a couple of years, but he was married to someone else back then. He met his current wife at the Liberty Bowl several years later while the team he was coaching was there.


Man, you can find almost anything on the internet.

Like, for instance, the obituary for Kelly Orgeron's mother. (http://www.emersonfuneralhome.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1347481&fh_id=10418)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: SteveJ on December 11, 2013, 10:07:34 AM
I went to Brownie Town with your sister-in-law.

Is that code for something?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 10:08:53 AM
Although I'd hate it for Henderson, that would be an excellent hire for Howlin N Shit and he shouldn't have a reason to leave in a year.


Unless somebody else offers him a job after a year.  That seems to be all it takes. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 10:10:44 AM

Man, you can find almost anything on the internet.

Like, for instance, the obituary for Kelly Orgeron's mother. (http://www.emersonfuneralhome.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1347481&fh_id=10418)
Yeah, I just googled her name and found a couple of articles saying they met at the Liberty Bowl.

Didn't see that link though. I guess she is from Jonesboro.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Old Man Rimshaw on December 11, 2013, 10:11:55 AM
I had a chance to meet Harsin last summer. Really a down-to-earth, likeable guy. I wish him well. Gonna be weird rooting FOR Boise after years of hoping they lose.

/csb
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 10:12:12 AM
Yeah, I just googled her name and found a couple of articles saying they met at the Liberty Bowl.

Didn't see that link though. I guess she is from Jonesboro.


I have no idea.  This was the first I'd heard she was even from Arkansas.  I was just surprised to find that. 

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 11, 2013, 10:13:06 AM
Maybe stAte should go with a rehabilitation project.  This guy sounds like he's ready to go back to work.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/bruce-feldman/24372078/despite-being-cleared-in-unc-scandal-davis-still-waiting-for-next-gig

Wonder if the "prominent" job that Feldman mentions is Arkansas. JL afraid to hire Butch over Bielema?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on December 11, 2013, 10:17:38 AM
I went to Brownie Town with your sister-in-law.

You wish. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 10:27:31 AM
You wish.

She named me Mayor of Brownie Town.  I was all up in there. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on December 11, 2013, 10:32:32 AM
She named me Mayor of Brownie Town.  I was all up in there.

No.  No you didn't. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Satchuation on December 11, 2013, 10:37:02 AM
FootballScoop Staff ‏@footballscoop 1m

At A-State, the early chatter from coaches is: Tim Horton, Neal Brown, Eddie Gran. Scott Maxfield at Henderson State has connections too

Tim Horton would be a disaster.

Maxfield... wtf? So he knows the ASU president and beats OBU and some directional Oklahoma D2's every year? That is definitely the man that should be howlin' & shit for the next several years.

If they're going to drop down to a lower division, they'd be smarter to take Conque, the guy at Sam Houston State, or the billionaire at Coastal Carolina. But, they're in a position where there's no need for them to mess with any of that. FBS schools aren't really big on taking lower-level guys, which is part of the reason why the North Dakota State guy had to settle for Wyoming.

ASU's going to have a lot of coordinators wanting a HC gig, and doing it a three-time conference champion sounds like a pretty attractive proposition. And then there will be the possibility of guys looking for work like Butch, Orgeron, Cristobal, Nutt, hell Lane Kiffin ain't busy. How many jobs better than ASU will open up this offseason? A lot of it will depend on what Texas does and the trickle-down from that, but none of it is certain. It's pretty tough to have an offer and say no with hopes that you might get a job that might open. For now, the only more attractive spot is UConn, right?. After that, fuckin' howl on. They could even hire an established coach from within their own league like Franchione, Coker or Todd Berry at ULM and offer them all a major raise. So, there should be no way/reason that Maxfield gets a sniff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ham Malone on December 11, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Maxfield... wtf? So he knows the ASU president and beats OBU and some directional Oklahoma D2's every year? That is definitely the man that should be howlin' & shit for the next several years.
Exactly, being the best coach in the GAC is not an accomplishment.  Henderson State looked good this year till the playoffs started and they got walloped by a D2 powerhouse, like the GAC champ always does. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 10:49:09 AM
ASU's going to have a lot of coordinators wanting a HC gig, and doing it a three-time conference champion sounds like a pretty attractive proposition. And then there will be the possibility of guys looking for work like Butch, Orgeron, Cristobal, Nutt, hell Lane Kiffin ain't busy. How many jobs better than ASU will open up this offseason? A lot of it will depend on what Texas does and the trickle-down from that, but none of it is certain. It's pretty tough to have an offer and say no with hopes that you might get a job that might open. For now, the only more attractive spot is UConn, right?. After that, fuckin' howl on. They could even hire an established coach from within their own league like Franchione, Coker or Todd Berry at ULM and offer them all a major raise. So, there should be no way/reason that Maxfield gets a sniff.
That is a good point. If they think they have a chance at someone that might take another job, they need to try to get them to make a decision before anything goes down at Texas.

Otherwise, they'll have to settle for someone that isn't getting another job anywhere, or wait for everything to play out with Texas and whoever they hire and whoever replaces that person, and so on.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 11, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
She named me Mayor of Brownie Town.  I was all up in there.

No.  No you didn't.

(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-33001-I-know-from-experience-if-you-gar1.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on December 11, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
(http://img.pandawhale.com/post-33001-I-know-from-experience-if-you-gar1.gif)

But you can imagine if they did. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 11, 2013, 11:17:30 AM
http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2013/12/texas-coaching-search-quagfuckmire-2013.html (http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2013/12/texas-coaching-search-quagfuckmire-2013.html)

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 11, 2013, 11:20:55 AM
twitter is saying that howl-n-shit fans are happy to see Harsin go. I call bullshit on that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: JDHog on December 11, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
twitter is saying that howl-n-shit fans are happy to see Harsin go. I call bullshit on that.

Yeah.  They can do much better.   ::)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
twitter is saying that howl-n-shit fans are happy to see Harsin go. I call bullshit on that.


Pretty much every actual ASU fan posts on The Den.  One guy on there looks happy to see him go, but it doesn't look like that's the consensus.

The Den (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=334&f=4551)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 11, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
The only stAte fans that are happy have the same irrational mentality of the Boondoggles of the world.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 11, 2013, 11:30:31 AM
(http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w525/TwoPete/nomsnoms_zpsb93e3358.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 11, 2013, 11:33:39 AM
One of my friends on the facepages last night posted; "Howl yes. So glad our coach is staying put."...She's a good kid, but I felt a little sorry for her when I started making fun of her. Then I got over it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 11:36:31 AM
More proof nobody knows anything.

Nobody in the ARkansas media anyway. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 11, 2013, 11:37:01 AM
twitter is saying that howl-n-aMm fans are happy to see Harsin go. I call bullshit on that.

That must be like how we didn't want Josh Frazier anyway.

http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2013/12/texas-coaching-search-quagfuckmire-2013.html (http://prevailandride.blogspot.com/2013/12/texas-coaching-search-quagfuckmire-2013.html)

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Nobody in the ARkansas media anyway.
That tweet was from the Boise media.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
That tweet was from the Boise media.

My bad, I was thinking Chris Bahn was an Arkansas media person.  Shows you how much I read Arkansas reporters stuff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 11, 2013, 11:52:46 AM

Said nobody in the history of the world.

Unless they grew up in Pine Bluff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 11, 2013, 11:57:20 AM
My bad, I was thinking Chris Bahn was an Arkansas media person.  Shows you how much I read Arkansas reporters stuff.

Those retweets come at you so fast.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 11:57:27 AM
My bad, I was thinking Chris Bahn was an Arkansas media person.  Shows you how much I read Arkansas reporters stuff.


He is. (http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com/contributors-to-sporting-life-arkansas/chris-bahn/)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: capnthog on December 11, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
Henderson State coach would be a great hire.

He's made his bones at HSU by pulling players from his old job at Blinn JC to Henderson.

Not sure he's ever had to recruit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 11, 2013, 12:18:12 PM
He's made his bones at HSU by pulling players from his old job at Blinn JC to Henderson.

Not sure he's ever had to recruit.

So are you saying if he got the ASU job that Blinn kids wouldn't want the chance to play at a FBS school?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 11, 2013, 12:19:51 PM
Meanwhile, over on Elephantville. . .

Quote
It seems like we have a new rumor thread about CNS going to texas every other day now - it's a become a huge distraction (and detraction, (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school)) on the board, not to mention pretty much flies in the face of our 'no rumors' policy. Therefore we've decided that we're not going to allow any more of these threads during the season (unless Saban leaves before the season is over).

To the hand-wringers: CNS has said multiple times, in a variety of ways, that he's happy at Bama, (as is Ms Terry). By all accounts by those who know them this is also the case. By continuing to post these threads it's not only a distraction from a truly special football season, but it's essentially calling our coach a liar.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on December 11, 2013, 12:22:16 PM
More rumormongering, but hey, why not.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24371923/mike-tomlin-jim-harbaugh-reported-as-possible-texas-candidates

So the Texas job isn't even technically open yet, but CBSSports.com's Bruce Feldman reports that Mack Brown is on his way out, though the Longhorns administration is currently dealing with "a very messy situation." It's probably not going to get any easier going forward with the insane amount of rumors floating about the next possible coach.

To wit: Chip Brown of Orangebloods.com, who initially reported Brown was out and has always been a reliable source when it comes to Texas information, went on Fox Sports Live and reported that Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh are possible candidates for the job.

"I'm sure Texas hopes there's a chance there. I think there's no question Texas is going to aim high here. I've been told they're going to aim for a coach that's won a national championship or a Super Bowl. And I think Nick Saban's at the top of the list. I think Urban Meyer would probably be second. I've heard maybe Mike Tomlin could be approached in this. I think you have to look at guys like David Shaw -- even though he hasn't won a national title -- and Jim Harbaugh. Both had success at Stanford and school president Bill Powers is a Cal graduate and wants Texas to be seen in the same light as Cal and Stanford."

Texas is an awesome job. You have your own network and you're handed like six free wins a year just based on sheer talent level and schedule. There's an incredibly fertile recruiting area around the school and there's no income tax.

But there are only 32 NFL jobs. Guys who are having success like Tomlin (despite the Steelers recent struggles he has a Super Bowl win and a pair of AFC championships) and Harbaugh aren't bolting the NFL for a college football gig. You could argue that the Texas job is better than some NFL jobs (maybe, say, the Texans?). That's fine. But the 49ers and Steelers jobs don't open up very often. The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969. That's a weekend for Dan Snyder.

You can never say never when it comes to coaching jobs and it comes to money. Like I said, Brown's been pretty spot on with Texans info. But that pair of names seems like a stretch.

On the bright side, we're definitely going to get press conference questions for Tomlin and Harbaugh about this rumor.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 11, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
Meanwhile, over on Elephantville. . .


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Well, he might be the greatest college coach of all time, but he is indeed a proven, on-the-record, documented liar.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on December 11, 2013, 12:31:27 PM
I saw on twitter that ASU would most likely be hiring Mississippi States next coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 11, 2013, 12:32:12 PM
More rumormongering, but hey, why not.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24371923/mike-tomlin-jim-harbaugh-reported-as-possible-texas-candidates

So the Texas job isn't even technically open yet, but CBSSports.com's Bruce Feldman reports that Mack Brown is on his way out, though the Longhorns administration is currently dealing with "a very messy situation." It's probably not going to get any easier going forward with the insane amount of rumors floating about the next possible coach.

To wit: Chip Brown of Orangebloods.com, who initially reported Brown was out and has always been a reliable source when it comes to Texas information, went on Fox Sports Live and reported that Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh are possible candidates for the job.

"I'm sure Texas hopes there's a chance there. I think there's no question Texas is going to aim high here. I've been told they're going to aim for a coach that's won a national championship or a Super Bowl. And I think Nick Saban's at the top of the list. I think Urban Meyer would probably be second. I've heard maybe Mike Tomlin could be approached in this. I think you have to look at guys like David Shaw -- even though he hasn't won a national title -- and Jim Harbaugh. Both had success at Stanford and school president Bill Powers is a Cal graduate and wants Texas to be seen in the same light as Cal and Stanford."

Texas is an awesome job. You have your own network and you're handed like six free wins a year just based on sheer talent level and schedule. There's an incredibly fertile recruiting area around the school and there's no income tax.

But there are only 32 NFL jobs. Guys who are having success like Tomlin (despite the Steelers recent struggles he has a Super Bowl win and a pair of AFC championships) and Harbaugh aren't bolting the NFL for a college football gig. You could argue that the Texas job is better than some NFL jobs (maybe, say, the Texans?). That's fine. But the 49ers and Steelers jobs don't open up very often. The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969. That's a weekend for Dan Snyder.

You can never say never when it comes to coaching jobs and it comes to money. Like I said, Brown's been pretty spot on with Texans info. But that pair of names seems like a stretch.

On the bright side, we're definitely going to get press conference questions for Tomlin and Harbaugh about this rumor.

Jim Harbaugh? That's even worse than the Gruden bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Those retweets come at you so fast.

I thought he was reporting news from one of his super secret sources.  My bad.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 11, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
I think Chip Brown is good, but he's having a field day with this stuff. I'd love to see Orange Bloods traffic numbers in the last 48 hours.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 12:50:50 PM
My bad, I was thinking Chris Bahn was an Arkansas media person.  Shows you how much I read Arkansas reporters stuff.
Ask your kids to explain "RT" to you.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Well, he might be the greatest college coach of all time, but he is indeed a proven, on-the-record, documented liar.


Nick Saban in December 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2705288):  I'm not going to be the Alabama coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 11, 2013, 01:01:33 PM

Nick Saban in December 2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2705288):  I'm not going to be the Alabama coach.

That's the one.

Perhaps he meant, after I leave and go to Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on December 11, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
I saw on twitter that ASU would most likely be hiring Mississippi States next coach.

That's funny.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 11, 2013, 02:01:07 PM
http://www.rockcitytimes.com/houston-nutt-expected-arkansas-state-head-coach/

Quote
Jonesboro, AR — Arkansas State University (ASU) has confirmed they are in the final stages of contract negotiations with former Arkansas and Ole Miss coach Houston Nutt.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: SteveJ on December 11, 2013, 02:02:38 PM
http://www.rockcitytimes.com/houston-nutt-expected-arkansas-state-head-coach/

Don't forget that's Little Rock's version of The Onion.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Old Man Rimshaw on December 11, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Don't forget that's Little Rock's version of The Onion.

...minus the humor.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 11, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
Rock City Times was funny the first 3-4 times.

Now it needs to find the screen door.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Rock City Times was funny the first 3-4 times.

Now it needs to find the screen door.
The parody stuff is funny, but that was just a troll job.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 11, 2013, 02:50:56 PM
You all had to be the first one to point out that you saw the bait, huh? 

It's getting where a guy can't dangle crank bait around here anymore.   :-\
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 11, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
I despise Hootie as much as the next guy on here (minus some nutthuggers) but in all seriousness, it would hurt the Hogs for him to go to ASU.  I can definitely see him selling some snake oil and plucking some badass RB or lineman from in state or Memphis.  You know some of these HS coaches still love him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: authorhawgerelli on December 11, 2013, 02:55:59 PM
I despise Hootie as much as the next guy on here (minus some nutthuggers) but in all seriousness, it would hurt the Hogs for him to go to ASU.  I can definitely see him selling some snake oil and plucking some badass RB or lineman from in state or Memphis.  You know some of these HS coaches still love him.

Not many.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 11, 2013, 03:16:48 PM
Ask your kids to explain "RT" to you.

Is that one of those fancy features on my selectric typewriter?  I just now figured out the Tab button doesn't really bring you a cold refreshing diet beverage.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 11, 2013, 03:40:19 PM
I despise Hootie as much as the next guy on here (minus some nutthuggers) but in all seriousness, it would hurt the Hogs for him to go to ASU.  I can definitely see him selling some snake oil and plucking some badass RB or lineman from in state or Memphis.  You know some of these HS coaches still love him.

He would spend the majority of time messing with the recruits on our list, spreading rumors, etc. rather than recruiting for Arkansas State.  You know, like he did when he was at Ole Miss.  He told one recruit that wasn't going to sign with Ole Miss to please not sign with Arkansas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 11, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
Is that one of those fancy features on my selectric typewriter?  I just now figured out the Tab button doesn't really bring you a cold refreshing diet beverage.

Boy, I'll tell you what, Evan Williams and Tab is a great drink.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 11, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
Boy, I'll tell you what, Evan Williams and Tab is a great drink.   :thumbup:

pretty sure i just puked reading that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 11, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/139938-Texas-Coaching-Search-Quagfuckmire-in-MS-PAINT
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: boartitz on December 11, 2013, 05:08:35 PM
Started in September, but really rolling the last few days.

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/135854-University-of-Texas-Ready-to-Make-Nick-Saban-Huge-Offer
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 05:17:16 PM
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/139938-Texas-Coaching-Search-Quagfuckmire-in-MS-PAINT
Wow I hate message boards where people do that "in!" "page 1!" bullshit. Absolutely drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 11, 2013, 05:18:24 PM
Wow I hate message boards where people do that "in!" "page 1!" bullshit. Absolutely drives me crazy.

We do that here, too.  Only difference is we're usually referencing Hoggly's mom.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 11, 2013, 06:09:26 PM
Wow I hate message boards where people do that "in!" "page 1!" bullshit. Absolutely drives me crazy.

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 06:20:08 PM
FAU announced they will not be retaining interim head coach Brian Wright. He took over for Carl Pelini and went 4-0. He had a good run at Montana State as OC, before that coached at Youngstown State so he's got a good resume.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 11, 2013, 06:37:14 PM
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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 11, 2013, 07:56:23 PM
TCU beat writer Stefan Stevenson cites a source "close to Texas executive council of regents" that says Alabama's Nick Saban will be Texas' next head coach.

The buzz has been there for some time, and this only adds to it. Saban is notorious for hoping from job to job, so it is time to take the rumors seriously. Another report, from NFL.com's Gil Brandt, stated Alabama and Saban were in contract talks to reach the $7 million level.

Source: Stefan Stevenson on Twitter Dec 10 - 7:54 PM
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 11, 2013, 07:59:00 PM
Don't forget that's Little Rock's version of The Onion.

Bruce Feldman needs to start visiting the wooppussy for his Arkansas State football info.

https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS/status/410947660292833281
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HRC on December 11, 2013, 08:03:10 PM
TCU beat writer Stefan Stevenson cites a source "close to Texas executive council of regents" that says Alabama's Nick Saban will be Texas' next head coach.

The buzz has been there for some time, and this only adds to it. Saban is notorious for hoping from job to job, so it is time to take the rumors seriously. Another report, from NFL.com's Gil Brandt, stated Alabama and Saban were in contract talks to reach the $7 million level.

Source: Stefan Stevenson on Twitter Dec 10 - 7:54 PM


"hoping?" FFS. Hopefully nobody pays that guy for grammar.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 11, 2013, 08:45:16 PM
@BFeldmanCBS: #UConn hiring #NotreDame DC Bob Diaco as new head coach, source tells CBS: http://t.co/0JEvJXSM3q

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on December 11, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
Boy, I'll tell you what, Evan Williams and Tab is a great drink.   :thumbup:
 

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 11, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/139938-Texas-Coaching-Search-Quagfuckmire-in-MS-PAINT

Mother Of the Baby Jesus...that is the hillarious.

i laughed all over myself.  i spit beer out loud.

if you didn't click that link, you are missing.

















*out.  missing out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 11, 2013, 11:45:29 PM
Mother Of the Baby Jesus...that is the hillarious.

i laughed all over myself.  i spit beer out loud.

if you didn't click that link, you are missng

*out.  missing out.

Funny as hell
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 12, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
Bama assistants are telling a few high school coaches that they are off to Texas.  Also, Saban signs some footballs every year for retiring Alabama military.  They guy in charge there was told that these were the last ones he'd be signing for them.  It sounds like this is happening. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 12, 2013, 08:41:57 AM
Bama assistants are telling a few high school coaches that they are off to Texas.  Also, Saban signs some footballs every year for retiring Alabama military.  They guy in charge there was told that these were the last ones he'd be signing for them.  It sounds like this is happening.

I'm not believing anything until Duckman's wife's tits weigh in on the matter.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 12, 2013, 08:43:08 AM
I'm not believing anything until Duckman's wife's tits weigh in on the matter.
Send up the signal.  Someone has that pic still, right?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 12, 2013, 08:55:28 AM
I'm not believing anything until Duckman's wife's tits weigh in on the matter.
Yeah, any time there is a big fake coaching rumor it almost always starts with high school coaches leaking it and coaches missing some fundraiser event, but never any specific names on the record.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hoggadore on December 12, 2013, 09:04:43 AM
Also, Saban signs some footballs every year for retiring Alabama military.  They guy in charge there was told that these were the last ones he'd be signing for them.  It sounds like this is happening.

Because when you're keeping a secret, you drop hints to near strangers, unprovoked. Sounds legit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 12, 2013, 09:08:48 AM
Because when you're keeping a secret, you drop hints to near strangers, unprovoked. Sounds legit.
Actually wasn't Saban who told the guy this.  It was a guy who is some underling. 
I'm not going all Duckman on this, just repeating things I've heard from guys who are usually in the know.  Take it with multiple grains of salt.  I am until I actually see it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 12, 2013, 09:11:51 AM
Actually wasn't Saban who told the guy this.  It was a guy who is some underling. 
I'm not going all Duckman on this, just repeating things I've heard from guys who are usually in the know.  Take it with multiple grains of salt.  I am until I actually see it.

Totally. I'm not bashing you one bit. I like reading coaching rumors, even though in my mind I know most are complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Red Death on December 12, 2013, 09:14:27 AM
Nick Saban and Alabama never was a good fit.  From a personality standpoint.  In fact, he is the polar opposite of the south.

He definitely fits better in Austin.  Apparently his wife wants out.  He's done everything there is to do down there.  It makes good sense.

Now the unraveling of Bama begins that I've been waiting on and it will be glorious.  They will crucify the next hire.  They will go into a period of rebuilding where they get busted for cheating at least 3 times, they might even miss a bowl game or 2.

I can't wait.  Give it to Smart and let the good times roll tide.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 12, 2013, 09:15:56 AM
Nick Saban and Alabama never was a good fit.  From a personality standpoint.  In fact, he is the polar opposite of the south.
He definitely fits better in Austin.  Apparently his wife wants out.

Ding, ding.  This is more important than many realize I think.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 12, 2013, 09:19:32 AM
Let this be a lesson for you youngsters - pussy makes the world go round.  Look what its power has done through history (poor Sparta).

Women have half the money and all the pussy.  When you have all the pussy, its only a matter of time before you have all the money.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 12, 2013, 09:21:08 AM
Nick Saban and Alabama never was a good fit.  From a personality standpoint.  In fact, he is the polar opposite of the south.

He definitely fits better in Austin.  Apparently his wife wants out.  He's done everything there is to do down there.  It makes good sense.

Now the unraveling of Bama begins that I've been waiting on and it will be glorious.  They will crucify the next hire.  They will go into a period of rebuilding where they get busted for cheating at least 3 times, they might even miss a bowl game or 2.

I can't wait.  Give it to Smart and let the good times roll tide.

Until we see rumors of Gruden being contacted by Bama, I am not buying it.  :cheese:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 12, 2013, 09:24:50 AM
If Saban were to choose to go to Texas what would be the deadline for making the move? Taking recruiting and what not into consideration I would think it would have to be around Christmas to give a good month before national signing day.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 12, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
BTW, if this doesn't go down don't blame me.  I am just relaying info given to me from some big wigs with the Sugar Bowl committee who are very interested and in tune with the goings on in Bama.  They're the ones who told me a couple of days ago about the contract offered to Saban from TX.  They are also the ones who seemed to first know when it was Mizzou who was coming into the conference.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 12, 2013, 09:27:41 AM
Let this be a lesson for you youngsters - puthy makes the world go round.  Look what its power has done through history (poor Sparta).
Women have half the money and all the puthy.  When you have all the puthy, its only a matter of time before you have all the money.

Don't forget Troy. That greek pussy was devastating. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 12, 2013, 09:27:47 AM
Ding, ding.  This is more important than many realize I think.

i read this a couple of weeks ago that his wife is not happy with the way they are treated. Even while winning, their fans bitch about everything. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 12, 2013, 09:30:17 AM
BTW, if this doesn't go down don't blame me.  I am just relaying info given to me from some big wigs with the Sugar Bowl committee who are very interested and in tune with the goings on in Bama.  They're the ones who told me a couple of days ago about the contract offered to Saban from TX.  They are also the ones who seemed to first know when it was Mizzou who was coming into the conference.
We will blame you. You're leaking all this big connected info. It all comes back to you, man.





Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on December 12, 2013, 09:33:08 AM
We will blame you. You're leaking all this big connected info. It all comes back to you, man.
You're not seeing my girlfriend's tits.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 12, 2013, 09:46:55 AM
The Alamo Bowl press conference is at 10.  I wouldn't expect any news out of it, but it should be plenty awkward if nothing else.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 12, 2013, 09:48:44 AM
I just can't buy any of this Saban stuff, but if it happens I look forward to the epic failure of that Smart feller.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 12, 2013, 09:49:21 AM
You're not seeing my girlfriend's tits.

I just want you to stop making shit up.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 12, 2013, 09:49:43 AM
Don't forget Troy. That greek puthy was devastating.

Money and puthey are two things that will make a man kill for no good reason
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 12, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
You're not seeing my girlfriend's tits.

Why is that?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 12, 2013, 09:57:51 AM
Money and puthey are two things that will make a man kill for no good reason

That's doesn't make any sense since you already listed two good reasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 12, 2013, 10:17:29 AM
If Saban were to choose to go to Texas what would be the deadline for making the move? Taking recruiting and what not into consideration I would think it would have to be around Christmas to give a good month before national signing day.

If he is taking the job, I would bet after the Heisman (what is that, Saturday?) he would be announced. He'll be out of Alabama before the sun rises on Monday.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 12, 2013, 10:30:52 AM
You're not seeing my girlfriend's tits.

Already did.  Meh.

Look at this woman and tell me why.  Why would a guy like little Nick stay married to a beast like this, let alone allow her to run his life?

(http://saturdaydownsouth.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/terri-saban.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 12, 2013, 10:32:12 AM
Already did.  Meh.

Look at this woman and tell me why.  Why would a guy like little Nick stay married to a beast like this, let alone allow her to run his life?

(http://saturdaydownsouth.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/terri-saban.jpg)

Because he is a little old man?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 12, 2013, 10:33:15 AM
Because he is a little old man?

That pint-sized motherfucker could have his pick of Alabama pussy. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: libertyhog on December 12, 2013, 10:34:53 AM
That pint-sized motherfucker could have his pick of Alabama pussy.

You just answered your own question dude. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 12, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
That pint-sized motherfucker could have his pick of Alabama pussy.
Side pieces.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 12, 2013, 10:41:30 AM
That pint-sized motherfricker could have his pick of Alabama puthy.

He probably does the Rick Petino like the rest of 'em, only he knows how to keep it quiet.

On the wife, there's likely a redeeming quality like being able to suck the skin right off his pecker.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 12, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
Already did.  Meh.

Look at this woman and tell me why.  Why would a guy like little Nick stay married to a beast like this, let alone allow her to run his life?

(http://saturdaydownsouth.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/terri-saban.jpg)

Obviously she beats him; he's afraid to leave.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 12, 2013, 10:45:03 AM
He probably does the Rick Petino like the rest of 'em, only he knows how to keep it quiet.

On the wife, there's likely a redeeming quality like being able to suck the skin right off his pecker.

Dude, she probably just makes a damn fine meal when he gets in. He can get his side action where ever. Can't get a nice home-cooked meal just anywhere.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 12, 2013, 10:59:51 AM
Sorry, the ultimate head scratcher is still Les Miles and his "wife".
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogtired on December 12, 2013, 11:02:24 AM
That's doesn't make any sense since you already listed two good reasons.

Grammatical error
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on December 12, 2013, 11:05:48 AM
Already did.  Meh.

Look at this woman and tell me why.  Why would a guy like little Nick stay married to a beast like this, let alone allow her to run his life?


Sorry, the ultimate head scratcher is still Les Miles and his "wife".

Guess successful coaches have really ugly wives?

 :stunned:

We are fooked.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on December 12, 2013, 11:07:10 AM
Doesn't Texas have to fire their coach first or are they going with some new wave dual head coach thing?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 12, 2013, 11:08:01 AM
Guess successful coaches have really ugly wives?

 :stunned:

We are fooked.

Gus's wife not too hard on the eyes. You just have to keep her mouth shut, or full.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: raisinsnacks on December 12, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
Dude, she probably just makes a damn fine meal when he gets in. He can get his side action where ever. Can't get a nice home-cooked meal just anywhere.

Listen up, young men. Mr. Colboar is handing out the greatest advice you will ever hear.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 12, 2013, 11:14:20 AM
Listen up, young men. Mr. Colboar is handing out the greatest advice you will ever hear.
For the most part, yes.

Saban and Miles are just following the advice of the great Jimmy Soul. Although I have to admit I somehow got lucky and found a pretty one that is an outstanding cook as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4TOR7856d4
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 12, 2013, 11:16:17 AM
Sorry, the ultimate head scratcher is still Les Miles and his "wife".

The wife is scary, but stumbled on to the daughter.  She turned out better.  Proof that 2 negatives equal a positive.

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_12_290.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1zkOWsCcAAWAyb.jpg:large)

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_10_642.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 12, 2013, 11:19:05 AM
Soo....Miles to Texas then? I heard he already enrolled his daughter there to prepare for the move.  :D
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on December 12, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
I hope Bama hires Gruden. Whats that goofy fuck ever done to prove hes a college coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 12, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
I saw on ESPN where since 2010, and I believe that's the year after Colt McCoy was dead in the Bama national title game, Texas has like the 5th best winning percentage of Texas schools behind Baylor, A&M, Houston and someone else.  I laughed and found this extremely entertaining.  Then it sank in. 

I'm scared to look it up, but how do the Razorbacks stack up against other Arkansas colleges since 2010?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 12, 2013, 11:39:48 AM
I saw on ESPN where since 2010, and I believe that's the year after Colt McCoy was dead in the Bama national title game, Texas has like the 5th best winning percentage of Texas schools behind Baylor, A&M, Houston and someone else.  I laughed and found this extremely entertaining.  Then it sank in. 

I'm scared to look it up, but how do the Razorbacks stack up against other Arkansas colleges since 2010?
Probably not great, but until any of those other Arkansas colleges are even on the level of Houston, what does it matter?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 12, 2013, 11:48:17 AM
Miles' wife looks like a cross between Robin Roberts and Obama.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 12, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Look at this woman and tell me why.  Why would a guy like little Nick stay married to a beast like this, let alone allow her to run his life?

it is truly a mystery why the 62 year old man married over 30 years would value his wife's input into what they do with their future.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 12, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
I saw on ESPN where since 2010, and I believe that's the year after Colt McCoy was dead in the Bama national title game, Texas has like the 5th best winning percentage of Texas schools behind Baylor, A&M, Houston and someone else.  I laughed and found this extremely entertaining.  Then it sank in. 

I'm scared to look it up, but how do the Razorbacks stack up against other Arkansas colleges since 2010?


You were forgetting Tarleton State.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 12, 2013, 12:01:06 PM
I saw on ESPN where since 2010, and I believe that's the year after Colt McCoy was dead in the Bama national title game, Texas has like the 5th best winning percentage of Texas schools behind Baylor, A&M, Houston and someone else.  I laughed and found this extremely entertaining.  Then it sank in. 

I'm scared to look it up, but how do the Razorbacks stack up against other Arkansas colleges since 2010?

Texas is ranked something like 45th in the nation in winning percentage in that time period.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 12, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
it is truly a mystery why the 62 year old man married over 30 years would value his wife's input into what they do with their future.
You have much to learn.  Not that I don't agree with you, but not how it usually works.  ;D
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 12, 2013, 12:05:18 PM
You have much to learn.
definitely.

Quote
Not that I don't agree with you, but not how it usually works.  ;D

with the sabans, her input is more than a little important:

ack Andonie, a member of the LSU board, said that when LSU was negotiating with Saban, there was "no doubt in my mind" that Saban sought his wife's input and that "her input would be significant."

Chris Black, an Alabama wide receiver, said Saban often jokes that Terry makes all of the important decisions. "She kind of wears the pants," Black said. (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303281504579220393805048908)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 12, 2013, 12:08:15 PM
The wife is scary, but stumbled on to the daughter.  She turned out better. 

Not by much.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 12, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
The wife is scary, but stumbled on to the daughter.  She turned out better.  Proof that 2 negatives equal a positive.

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_12_290.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1zkOWsCcAAWAyb.jpg:large)

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_10_642.jpg)

That little boy under Miles's left arm looks rough.  Is he adapted or something,?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 12, 2013, 12:19:59 PM

You were forgetting Tarleton State.
Miles' wife looks like she goes to Tareyton State.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: authorhawgerelli on December 12, 2013, 12:20:53 PM
That little boy under Miles's left arm looks rough.  Is he adapted or something,?

Not adapted.  I think metamorphisized is the correct term.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 12, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
How come the family's not throwing the "L?"
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 12, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
You know, Evan Williams goes pretty good with Diet Coke, too.   :notexas:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: lawtiger on December 12, 2013, 12:35:17 PM
Not by much.

She got her daddy's cro-magnon supraorbital ridge.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 12, 2013, 12:49:35 PM
Listen up, young men. Mr. Colboar is handing out the greatest advice you will ever hear.

Fuck that. I know how to cook. I only care what she does in the bedroom with lights off and on. Only occasionally do I care what she can do in the kitchen, bathroom, backyard, etc..
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 12, 2013, 12:52:41 PM
it is truly a mystery why the 62 year old man married over 30 years would value his wife's input into what they do with their future.

Because she keeps his secrets and lets his boyfriends sleep over?

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 12, 2013, 12:53:06 PM
She got her daddy's cro-magnon supraorbital ridge.

I was just about to say you could photoshop Les' face onto his daughter's and she would look damn near the same.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 12, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
I was just about to say you could photoshop Les' face onto his daughter's and she would look damn near the same.
If you photoshopped Les' face onto his daughter's face, they'd look exactly the same, Napoleon.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 12, 2013, 01:13:17 PM
Not adapted.  I think metamorphisized is the correct term.


 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 12, 2013, 01:18:01 PM
She got her daddy's cro-magnon supraorbital ridge.

i.e.

Bitch got a five-head.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 12, 2013, 01:32:34 PM
The wife is scary, but stumbled on to the daughter.  She turned out better.  Proof that 2 negatives equal a positive.

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_12_290.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1zkOWsCcAAWAyb.jpg:large)

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_10_642.jpg)

I never realized Les was married to Gilbert Gottfried
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 12, 2013, 02:00:51 PM
Les, where did you meet the wife?

Jiffy Lube.

What, you were both having your cars serviced there?

Nah. She was under the car changing the oil. There was just something in the way she asked if I wanted synthetic or not.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 12, 2013, 02:18:07 PM
The entire immediate Miles family takes up less space than Bert!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 12, 2013, 02:21:57 PM
more shaggy bevo MS paint fun: http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/135854-University-of-Texas-Ready-to-Make-Nick-Saban-Huge-Offer?p=6108168&viewfull=1#post6108168

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Jordan on December 12, 2013, 02:22:43 PM
the jimmy sexton one is the best, but i won't post it here due to NSFW issues. next best:

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/thujone/QuagmirePart2-9_zpsdc73c7e7.png)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/thujone/QuagmirePart2-10_zpsa46b65f5.png)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 12, 2013, 02:23:16 PM
Anyone figure Dowell Loggins is one the nfl coordinators seeking the head job for the injuns?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 12, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
Anyone figure Dowell Loggins is one the nfl coordinators seeking the head job for the injuns?

Possibly...  because he's probably about to get canned.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 12, 2013, 02:42:07 PM
More Mack rumors....supposed to resign on Friday...

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/12/12/source-mack-brown-to-resign-friday/#.UqoCNMl14Pg.twitter

Also, you can bookmark this rather than checking this thread over and over...

http://hastexashirednicksabanyet.com/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on December 12, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
The wife is scary, but stumbled on to the daughter.  She turned out better.  Proof that 2 negatives equal a positive.

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_12_290.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1zkOWsCcAAWAyb.jpg:large)

[img width=600 height=483]http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_10_642.jpg[/




That last picture....looks like the one I saw of you and your family


Douchetastic
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 12, 2013, 03:07:44 PM
Not by much.

I'd hit it with authority, but it'd have to be either dark, or from behind, because there's no way my junk works with Les Miles looking up at me.

Evan Williams and Ginger Ale might get me past that, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 12, 2013, 04:12:31 PM
I always thought Les and Kurt looked alike.

(http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070313/russell_k_l.jpg)

(http://www.sportsnola.com/imagesnov/sports/lsu/lsu_miles_basic_sideline.jpg)

Nick looks like if Dick Clark and Ric Flair had a baby.


(http://s.mcstatic.com/thumb/10967027/28512162/4/flash_player/0/1/biography_dick_clark.jpg?v=1)

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-51e6aa6e/turbine/la-sp-sn-judge-issues-an-arrest-warrant-for-ri-001/440)

(http://totalfratmove.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/17c08f5d5372f0b7f912d52887aae663732629753.png)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on December 12, 2013, 04:14:57 PM
The wife is scary, but stumbled on to the daughter.  She turned out better.  Proof that 2 negatives equal a positive.

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_12_290.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1zkOWsCcAAWAyb.jpg:large)

(http://espn.go.com/photo/2011/1101/etick_lemiles_10_642.jpg)

The chick on the right in the UT photo can get it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: authorhawgerelli on December 12, 2013, 04:17:27 PM
If you photoshopped Les' face onto his daughter's face, they'd look exactly the same, Napoleon.

Not unnoticed, btw.  Excellent.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Buhleedat on December 12, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
University of North Dakota can end it's coaching search:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/hilarious-cover-letter-gives-the-compelling-case-for-a-head

    “Mr. Faison,

    I would like to express to you my interest in your now open position for head coach of football at the University of North Dakota

    Currently, I work in IT at a college in West Virginia, but I have many years of experience with football, starting with attending my first Marshall University football game when I was 3 years old. In the past 30 years I’ve only missed a handful of Marshall’s home games, attended many road games, and all of their bowl games.

    All the while I played various football games including Madden on Sega Genesis where I completely dominated with the Bills and Thurman Thomas. Seriously, was he a beast on the game or was he a beast because I was a football genius controlling him? I then moved on to a Playstation gaming system and purchased NCAA Football every year and put together several programs that completely dominated the recruiting scene and college football winning several national titles with Marshall University. I took them from a decent Mid-American Conference School on the game to a perennial national power that makes Nick Saban look like a chump. One year my third string quarterback left school early to enter the NFL Draft, he was a first round pick. Boom.

    My football philosophy is basically an attacking one. We’re going to give AIR RAID a whole new definition. Theoretically how many times do you think a team can pass in a game? Challenge accepted. We’re going 5 wide, chucking the pigskin all over the place. Never punt. Onside every time. Chip Kelly will be calling me to learn my offense. We will put on an exciting brand of football, we will pack them into the Alerus Center night in and night out, go ahead and blow the roof off the place and add about 35,000 seats to that place.

    I would love to speak with you further regarding this opening and what I can bring to UND, putting UND back on the national map and making NDSU our (b****).

    Attached to this email you will find a PowerPoint with more information.

    Thanks,

    Christopher McComas

    PS - I prefer Coke to Pepsi, so go ahead and fill the fridge up in the head coach’s office with Coke.”
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 13, 2013, 07:37:59 AM
UCONN giving DIACO a retention bonus of 500,000 if he remains head coach through dec 31st 2018 is smart money. Asu should do something similar, that injun ad seems to love the attention...gotta know he is going to try to spin this into a better gig for himself and who could blame him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jose Papoopoo on December 13, 2013, 08:47:52 AM
I'd hit it with authority, but it'd have to be either dark, or from behind, because there's no way my junk works with Les Miles looking up at me.

Evan Williams and Ginger Ale might get me past that, though.

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 13, 2013, 09:20:10 AM
Interesting that Alabama AD is "declining to comment on Saban's status" at this time.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 13, 2013, 09:53:03 AM
Interesting that Alabama AD is "declining to comment on Saban's status" at this time.
He needs to have Sweet Brown's soundbyte readily available for all questions;
"Ain't nobody got time fuh dat."
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 13, 2013, 10:12:39 AM
I don't have the time or the energy, so just picture Sumlin and Saban's pictures on this.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 13, 2013, 10:21:56 AM
I don't have the time or the energy, so just picture Sumlin and Saban's pictures on this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzba7V8uB04
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 13, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzba7V8uB04
Yes, that also applies. For more current material, Bilbo in the gold would also work.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 13, 2013, 01:28:02 PM
UCONN giving DIACO a retention bonus of 500,000 if he remains head coach through dec 31st 2018 is smart money. Asu should do something similar, that injun ad seems to love the attention...gotta know he is going to try to spin this into a better gig for himself and who could blame him.

Are you kidding?  The ASU has discovered the most impressive revenue stream in the history of the athletic dept there.

They've made a killing on these buyouts.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 13, 2013, 01:39:04 PM
Are you kidding?  The ASU has discovered the most impressive revenue stream in the history of the athletic dept there.

They've made a killing on these buyouts.
Shouldn't the state get some reimbursement?

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 13, 2013, 01:42:23 PM
Shouldn't the state get some reimbursement?

Reimbursed for what?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 13, 2013, 01:44:58 PM
Reimbursed for what?


state funds their athletics employees, unlike the UofA
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 13, 2013, 01:50:48 PM
Reimbursed for what?
C'MON MAN!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 13, 2013, 01:52:26 PM
Are you kidding?  The ASU has discovered the most impressive revenue stream in the history of the athletic dept there.

They've made a killing on these buyouts.

Oh my bad, I thought they aspired to be like Boise State and be successful and able to retain their head coach at least for a decent amount of time. But hey they could keep rolling with the buyout plans funding their athletic program.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: fuentecigar on December 13, 2013, 02:20:13 PM
Oh my bad, I thought they aspired to be like Boise State and be successful and able to retain their head coach at least for a decent amount of time. But hey they could keep rolling with the buyout plans funding their athletic program.

On a good day, ASU is a cut rate program. How many winning seasons in the passed 20? Few. I remember in the late 60's and early 70"s; they were tried to be placed in parity with UA, by playing a game at War Memorial Stadium. I went to one. Think I ended up getting the ticket for free. About 4,000 in attendance. Catholic High usually did much better than that. I know of few, if any outside of alumni, that are interested in ASU football.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 13, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
On a good day, ASU is a cut rate program. How many winning seasons in the passed 20? Few. I remember in the late 60's and early 70"s; they were tried to be placed in parity with UA, by playing a game at War Memorial Stadium. I went to one. Think I ended up getting the ticket for free. About 4,000 in attendance. Catholic High usually did much better than that. I know of few, if any outside of alumni, that are interested in ASU football.

You don't have to tell me that...tell it to the Wild Red Injun Wolfs, afterall it is they whom aspire to better themselves instead of understanding and accepting their place. I do know it pisses me off when I'm told (as a Hog fan) to know my place in the grand scope of college football.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 13, 2013, 03:19:17 PM
C'MON MAN!

My bad 

(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Just+back+away+slowly+and.....+RUNNNNNNN_c189d9_3839276.gif)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: fuentecigar on December 13, 2013, 05:23:48 PM
You don't have to tell me that...tell it to the Wild Red Injun Wolfs, afterall it is they whom aspire to better themselves instead of understanding and accepting their place. I do know it pisses me off when I'm told (as a Hog fan) to know my place in the grand scope of college football.

I assumed you hadn't been around for the 60 years I have. No offense intended.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 13, 2013, 05:29:16 PM

I assumed you hadn't been around for the 60 years I have. No offense intended.
just 36 years sir


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hoghorn Leghorn on December 13, 2013, 06:58:12 PM

On a good day, ASU is a cut rate program. How many winning seasons in the passed 20? Few.


As we know asu-j has had a winning season in each of the last three.

In the 23 years prior, they had a grand total of one.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Vito Porkleone on December 13, 2013, 07:24:26 PM
In other news, there's a great thread on Shaggy Bevo about the shorthorn football banquet.  lots of win.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 13, 2013, 07:46:48 PM
In other news, there's a great thread on Shaggy Bevo about the shorthorn football banquet.  lots of win.

So now that chip brown guy says he's hearing mack gets another year. The meltdown will be glorious.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 13, 2013, 08:32:44 PM
So now that chip brown guy says he's hearing mack gets another year. The meltdown will be glorious.
Coincidentally, it seems Saban has signed an extension at Alabama.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GolfingHog on December 13, 2013, 08:46:06 PM
Coincidentally, it seems Saban has signed an extension at Alabama.

Good, I don't want any fucking excuses when we finally beat Bama.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: woopiginaustin on December 13, 2013, 08:52:48 PM
I bounce back and forth from Austin and LR. Been down here with the Whorns for a few weeks.

Let me say this about Chip Brown. He can suck my dick. That dude is ALWAYS throwing shit at the wall hoping it sticks. I can't recall how many times he has some juicy bit of breaking news that only he knows the details about, only for it not to pan out.

On the radio today he was talking about all of his super secret info and blah blah blah. Fuck him. Fuck all of these Whorns. This whole town was CONVINCED Saban was coming. You can tell they haven't done this in 16+ years. They haven't been burned and shamed in coaching searches enough to not go all-in on the first hot name they think they can get.

FUCK THEM. I'm so God damn happy right now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 13, 2013, 09:17:23 PM
Good, I don't want any fricking excuses when we finally beat Bama.

Excuses from whom?

Beating Bama is beating Bama.  And it's about time.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 13, 2013, 09:38:31 PM
Saban got a $2 Mil/yr raise out of all this.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 13, 2013, 09:51:09 PM
Saban got a $2 Mil/yr raise out of all this.

He's earned it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: lawtiger on December 13, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
it is they whom aspire to better themselves instead of understanding and accepting their place.

Quote
I do know it pisses me off when I'm told (as a Hog fan) to know my place

?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 13, 2013, 09:55:21 PM
An aggie blog retweeted this....

@ChipBrownOB: There is no truth to reports that Texas A&M will join the SEC in the spring of 2012. None. #A&M #Aggies #big12 #cfb

Aggies are loving this but they got played pretty well themselves. Made Sumlin the first coach in history to make over $5 million/year without having won a NC, while coming off an 8-win season with arguably the best player in college football.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 13, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
Sexton should send that Brown guy a nice stocking stuffer.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on December 13, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
Saban got a $2 Mil/yr raise out of all this.

he's still underpaid. no telling how much their endowment and donations have gone up since his arrival.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 13, 2013, 10:07:18 PM
The new AD is probably like the 8th most powerful person in that athletic department.  None of them have the balls to fire Mack, and it doesn't seem like Mack wants to take an ~85% pay cut at age 62.

I bet he wants to retire at 65 and was counting on that extra 16.5 million over the next three years at a job he obviously loves. . 

You can pretty much do any fucking thing you want if you're making 5 million a year.  Not the case with half a million.

 :stache:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GolfingHog on December 13, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
Excuses from whom?

Beating Bama is beating Bama.  And it's about time.

There would have always been people from the Bama side and our own fans who said we never beat them with Saban. Now it's time to do work, they won't stay on top forever.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 13, 2013, 10:37:20 PM
An aggie blog retweeted this....

@ChipBrownOB: There is no truth to reports that Texas A&M will join the SEC in the spring of 2012. None. #A&M #Aggies #big12 #cfb

Aggies are loving this but they got played pretty well themselves. Made Sumlin the first coach in history to make over $5 million/year without having won a NC, while coming off an 8-win season with arguably the best player in college football.
Sumlin hasn't even win a conference title much less a natty, has he?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 13, 2013, 10:44:55 PM
Sumlin hasn't even win a conference title much less a natty, has he?

But they heard he was USCW's target. Gotta wrap him up. I think it's a $5mil buyout too. Suckas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 13, 2013, 11:38:50 PM
An aggie blog retweeted this....

@ChipBrownOB: There is no truth to reports that Texas A&M will join the SEC in the spring of 2012. None. #A&M #Aggies #big12 #cfb

Aggies are loving this but they got played pretty well themselves. Made Sumlin the first coach in history to make over $5 million/year without having won a NC, while coming off an 8-win season with arguably the best player in college football.

I agree. Mike Evans was the best player in college football when healthy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on December 14, 2013, 12:41:40 AM
There would have always been people from the Bama side and our own fans who said we never beat them with Saban. Now it's time to do work, they won't stay on top forever.

That's just retarded.  How many around here bragging that Auburn never beat us while John L. was the head coach?

Saban leaving means Bama stumbles. 
Bama stumbles is good for other SEC West teams.
Arkansas is an SEC West team
Ergo, Saban leaving is good for Arkansas.

QED
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: FNG on December 14, 2013, 06:00:44 AM
Saban or no, I have a feeling the SEC west is about to endure a new 800 lb gorilla.
The King is dead.
Long live the King.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 14, 2013, 08:11:13 AM
Saban or no, I have a feeling the SEC west is about to endure a new 800 lb gorilla.
The King is dead.
Long live the King.

Who is that?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 08:25:04 AM
Who is that?

Not Hunchback
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 14, 2013, 08:42:03 AM
If you're talking about Gus, he is good, but he in no way is going to create an unbeatable Death Star system like Darth Saban.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 08:43:11 AM
Saban or no, I have a feeling the SEC west is about to endure a new 800 lb gorilla.
The King is dead.
Long live the King.
Bret is a big guy but lets not say he's 800lbs....maybe pushing 3 bills.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ob Gyn Kenobi on December 14, 2013, 09:18:14 AM
Bret is a big guy but lets not say he's 800lbs....maybe pushing 3 bills.

I was thinking exactly the same thing
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogHead McCormick on December 14, 2013, 09:22:11 AM
I was thinking exactly the same thing

Well, if by pushing 3 bills you really mean north of 350, then yeah. I'm not sure at all that b is under 400.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 14, 2013, 09:31:01 AM
Saban or no, I have a feeling the SEC west is about to endure a new 800 lb gorilla.
The King is dead.
Long live the King.

She actually lives in Atlanta where her husband's media empire is based. But the kids don't call it Atlanta anymore. They call it "Hotlanta," or "Footballnam."
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 14, 2013, 11:31:47 AM
In surprising news related to a Texas school hiring a coach...

Clint Conque is apparently leaving UCA for Stephen F Austin.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 11:47:32 AM

In surprising news related to a Texas school hiring a coach...

Clint Conque is apparently leaving UCA for Stephen F Austin.

He kinda bottomed out in terms of popularity round here abouts


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 14, 2013, 11:57:14 AM
In surprising news related to a Texas school hiring a coach...

Clint Conque is apparently leaving UCA for Stephen F Austin.

He apparently wanted more money for assistants. Bizarre move.

They need to go after Todd Cooley at Delta State. He was their OC during their best years anyways.
Dark horse would be Nathan Brown  or Hendy High's coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 12:22:48 PM

He apparently wanted more money for assistants. Bizarre move.

They need to go after Todd Cooley at Delta State. He was their OC during their best years anyways.
Dark horse would be Nathan Brown  or Hendy High's coach.

This could be the big break Hoot needs to get back to building fences


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on December 14, 2013, 12:28:10 PM
This could be the big break Hoot needs to get back to building fences


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I saw him on the CBS morning show a couple of weeks ago. 

I gotta be honest, I thought he would excel as a TV guy, but that shit was incredibly awkward for all involved.  It was the rantings of a crazy person who doesn't have that typical crazy person quality of knowing they're a little bit crazy.  Not fun crazy, but awkward crazy.  The other guys at the desk had no idea how to respond to him, he talked exclusively with non-sequiturs and crazy expressions...it was like all the details we mocked back in the day got blowed the fuck out of proportion.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 12:36:15 PM

I saw him on the CBS morning show a couple of weeks ago. 

I gotta be honest, I thought he would excel as a TV guy, but that aMm was incredibly awkward for all involved.  It was the rantings of a crazy person who doesn't have that typical crazy person quality of knowing they're a little bit crazy.  Not fun crazy, but awkward crazy.  The other guys at the desk had no idea how to respond to him, he talked exclusively with non-sequiturs and crazy expressions...it was like all the details we mocked back in the day got blowed the frick out of proportion.

Yeah I almost figured being out of it for a time would give him perspective but hasn't. Just as big an arrogant ass as ever and now twice as craycray.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hobo on December 14, 2013, 02:00:49 PM
He apparently wanted more money for assistants. Bizarre move.

They need to go after Todd Cooley at Delta State. He was their OC during their best years anyways.
Dark horse would be Nathan Brown  or Hendy High's coach.
Timmy Horton
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 14, 2013, 02:28:02 PM
Timmy Horton
To come fill daddy's old shoes...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 14, 2013, 02:29:09 PM
Yeah I almost figured being out of it for a time would give him perspective but hasn't. Just as big an arrogant ass as ever and now twice as craycray.


Narcissists don't gain perspective. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Show-Me Hog on December 14, 2013, 02:54:31 PM
Well, if by pushing 3 bills you really mean north of 350, then yeah. I'm not sure at all that b is under 400.

No, now you're talking Mangino territory. Bielema ain't that high.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 14, 2013, 03:26:56 PM
No, now you're talking Mangino territory. Bielema ain't that high.

No, I wouldn't be surprised if Mangino wasn't north of 500 lbs.

Bret is tree-fiddy easy.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 14, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
Speaking of google, there's this company called Boston Dynamics, which is really cool.  They fuck around with all sorts of craziness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3fmFTtP9g

Behind the parking lot in that video is an abandoned ski hill, all woods.  Forest park, and it's where I run my dog.  Attached below is a pic I grabbed from the top of it a couple weeks ago.

Sometimes, while we're walking around in the woods, we hear something like this.  If you've never seen a goddamnpissedoffmadwannakillsomething Airedale, these fuckers will make that happen fast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww

Really weird shit, I'm telling you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs6XmmyfQKQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebn7rFRkUTA

Anyway, the reason I mention it, is I read that Google bought this company this week.  Google.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/14/technology/google-adds-to-its-menagerie-of-robots.html

On reading into it a little, I find that Google has bought out 8 robotics companies in the last six months.

First, Amazon wanting to use drones for package delivery, and here comes Google investing HEAVILY into robotics. 

Scary.

Anyway, you guys mentioned google.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 14, 2013, 06:22:49 PM
Mack Brown is out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PorkRyan on December 14, 2013, 06:25:52 PM
And he's gone 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogHead McCormick on December 14, 2013, 06:38:31 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10138466/mack-brown-resigns-coach-texas-longhorns
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on December 14, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
Patterson
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on December 14, 2013, 06:41:09 PM
Patterson
 

I would think.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on December 14, 2013, 06:42:10 PM
At least their bad years are better than Missouri's good years!

Say this for DeLoss Dodds: He's very rarely been accused of not speaking his mind when it comes to issues surrounding his Texas athletic department, whether his mind happens to be thinking something diplomatic or not.

File this one under "not." Speaking to the Austin American-Statesman regarding a broad downturn in the athletic department's fortunes (despite it remaining the wealthiest athletic department in the nation), Dodds had this to say:

“We’re going to have good years again,” Dodds promised. “Our bad years are not that bad. Take a school like Missouri. Our bad years are better than their good years. But we’ve created a standard.”


Ooops.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
1. Dabo
2. Franklin
3. Mora

I claim to know nothing.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on December 14, 2013, 06:43:11 PM
So, my take is Mack Brown and his supporters managed to put off his resignation until Saban signed his new deal as a big "fuck you mother fuckers for talking with Saban / Sexton while I was still the head coach."
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 14, 2013, 06:46:49 PM
1. Dabo

SC has beaten Clemson 5 straight years.  Clemson fans would love nothing more than for this to happen
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on December 14, 2013, 06:52:08 PM
Texas should dump a bunch of money in front of David Shaw, then Dantonio.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 14, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
So, my take is Mack Brown and his supporters managed to put off his resignation until Saban signed his new deal as a big "fuck you mother fuckers for talking with Saban / Sexton while I was still the head coach."

Sure seems that way. Supposedly Saban has no buyout though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 07:11:11 PM
SC has beaten Clemson 5 straight years.  Clemson fans would love nothing more than for this to happen
Mack couldn't beat FSU and they hired him from UNC. I read Mack coached 30 years and won 2 conference titles...wow, if true.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
I would think Art Briles would be right up at the top...might come down to who the ad wants/can deliver.

Patterson (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school) isn't all that but like Petersen...he may up and leave right when most have given up asking.


Briles
Shaw
Tomlin (job security with Steelers?)
Fedora
Patterson
Richt (for some reason I could see him leaving Georgia within 2 years)




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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PorkRyan on December 14, 2013, 07:36:45 PM
Saw it posted that the avg salary in the SEC West is now higher than the avg salary in the AFC West
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 14, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
(also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school), Dabo and Jimbo's programs are in better shape for the foreseeable future than bevo.  Of course doubling your salary makes Austin somewhat attractive. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Sauce on December 14, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Chip Brown's take on Mack making sure Saban didn't get the job...

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1587416 (http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1587416)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: jsimp on December 14, 2013, 07:48:19 PM
Newt Rockne
Bear
Belichick
Lombardi
George Washington

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 07:50:28 PM
I don't buy the MackLash theory of cock blocking Saban.

You don't just give up a five mill a year job without a buyout in place or some golden handcuffs or something. This is weird.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogNrock on December 14, 2013, 07:58:05 PM
I don't buy the MackLash theory of cock blocking Saban.

You don't just give up a five mill a year job without a buyout in place or some golden handcuffs or something. This is weird.


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Agreed. 

And even if Saban has "agreed" to an extension or raise but has no buyout, could he not still go to Texass with little or no cost to Texas?  I and every other SEC team's fans are hoping so.  It's still real to me dammit!

I haven't read much on the details of Saban's new deal with Bama so someone that has, please enlighten me.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on December 14, 2013, 08:00:06 PM
I don't buy the MackLash theory of cock blocking Saban.

You don't just give up a five mill a year job without a buyout in place or some golden handcuffs or something. This is weird.


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Speculation out there that Texas will pay Brown more than $5 million to keep raising money.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on December 14, 2013, 08:01:20 PM
I don't buy the MackLash theory of cock blocking Saban.

You don't just give up a five mill a year job without a buyout in place or some golden handcuffs or something. This is weird.


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i can in a way, it's so dysfunctional down and it's obvious that Mack dug his heels in big time. the timing certainly makes sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
@footballscoop: Sources tell us that Arkansas DL coach Charlie Partridge has agreed to become head coach at FAU http://t.co/sNnVtycOD5


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DrMongoose on December 14, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
@footballscoop: Sources tell us that Arkansas DL coach Charlie Partridge has agreed to become head coach at FAU http://t.co/sNnVtycOD5


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oh crap!

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Sauce on December 14, 2013, 08:11:15 PM
@footballscoop: Sources tell us that Arkansas DL coach Charlie Partridge has agreed to become head coach at FAU http://t.co/sNnVtycOD5


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Frick...one of our top recruiters.   Paging Ed Orgeron
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 08:11:36 PM
Ed O please pick up the white courtesy phone


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PorkRyan on December 14, 2013, 08:20:02 PM
@footballscoop: Sources tell us that Arkansas DL coach Charlie Partridge has agreed to become head coach at FAU http://t.co/sNnVtycOD5


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Fuck
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 14, 2013, 08:21:28 PM
At least their bad years are better than Missouri's good years!

Say this for DeLoss Dodds: He's very rarely been accused of not speaking his mind when it comes to issues surrounding his Texas athletic department, whether his mind happens to be thinking something diplomatic or not.

File this one under "not." Speaking to the Austin American-Statesman regarding a broad downturn in the athletic department's fortunes (despite it remaining the wealthiest athletic department in the nation), Dodds had this to say:

“We’re going to have good years again,” Dodds promised. “Our bad years are not that bad. Take a school like Missouri. Our bad years are better than their good years. But we’ve created a standard.”


Ooops.

See....more arrogant Longhorn dickbagism.  I really wish that place would capsize into a giant sinkhole.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 14, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
Ed O please pick up the white courtesy phone


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Yes, that would be really nice. Sucks losing Partridge. Luckily Jackson is our biggest DL recruit and he seems like a guy that's solid regardless of his recruiter.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 14, 2013, 08:29:12 PM
Does Texas have DL coach worth a shit?


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: subliznime on December 14, 2013, 08:36:02 PM
Does anyone think that mack will coach at UT and Saban willl coach at bama?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
Does anyone think that mack will coach at UT and Saban willl coach at bama?
You serious Clark?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: subliznime on December 14, 2013, 08:44:20 PM
You serious Clark?
::)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 14, 2013, 08:56:28 PM
Sucks losing Partridge but you can't can't blame a guy for wanting a HC gig, especially one in his home town (almost). I also saw on this guy's blog that Ash might be interested in the Bowling Green and A State jobs.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/24373764/coaching-changes-daily-updates-on-florida-oc-arkansas-state-more

Both these guys have been with Bielema for a while so maybe a change in defensive philosophy might be going on?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Sucks losing Partridge but you can't can't blame a guy for wanting a HC gig, especially one in his home town (almost). I also saw on this guy's blog that Ash might be interested in the Bowling Green and A State jobs.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jeremy-fowler/24373764/coaching-changes-daily-updates-on-florida-oc-arkansas-state-more

Both these guys have been with Bielema for a while so maybe a change in defensive philosophy might be going on?
I don't see it as a change in philosophy but good coaches advancing up the ladder wanting to run their own program. Shannon could easily slide into DC role.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 14, 2013, 09:28:54 PM
Losing Partridge is big.

Ed O is a maniac but he can recruit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 09:35:49 PM
Losing Partridge is big.

Ed O is a maniac but he can recruit.
Ed O wants a HC gig not a DL gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogNrock on December 14, 2013, 09:35:52 PM
This is what you want to see, coaches moving up the ladder from the coaching staff.  Of course it all depends on his replacement, but this is the direct result of having quality assistants on staff.  It also makes our assistant coach positions more attractive for potential candidates.  I have no fears of Bielema finding a capable replacement and probably an upgrade based upon what we can offer salary wise.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 14, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
Does Texas have DL coach worth a shit?


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Their DL coach is Bo Davis. All-SEC d lineman at LSU, coached with Saban at Miami and Bama. Probably be looking for a job soon.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on December 14, 2013, 09:50:21 PM
Their DL coach is Bo Davis. All-SEC d lineman at LSU, coached with Saban at Miami and Bama. Probably be looking for a job soon.

Was it his D-line that BYU gashed for 550 rushing yds.?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on December 14, 2013, 10:02:59 PM
i can in a way, it's so dysfunctional down and it's obvious that Mack dug his heels in big time. the timing certainly makes sense.

It's reverted back to a divided program. Just like when Brown took it over.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 10:16:55 PM
It's reverted back to a divided program. Just like when Brown took it over.
You either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 14, 2013, 11:08:29 PM
@ArRecruitingGuy: Very reliable source- Arkansas defensive line coach Charlie Partridge has not accepted the FAU offer that's on the table at this point.

@ArRecruitingGuy: Doesn't mean the two parties won't come to an agreement but at this point it's not a done deal.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Mike Slive on December 14, 2013, 11:14:46 PM
@ArRecruitingGuy: Very reliable source- Arkansas defensive line coach Charlie Partridge has not accepted the FAU offer that's on the table at this point.

@ArRecruitingGuy: Doesn't mean the two parties won't come to an agreement but at this point it's not a done deal.

I thought we already hired Ed O?  :stache:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on December 15, 2013, 02:04:43 AM
Ed O wants a HC gig not a DL gig.

And I want to have sex with circa 1999 Halle Berry instead of my old lady.  I have a pretty good idea it's not going to happen though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on December 15, 2013, 02:05:33 AM
Newt Rockne
Bear
Belichick
Lombardi
George Washington

Darrel Royal
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: dylanfreake on December 15, 2013, 06:05:04 AM
Fill out an application for the head coaching job at Texas for Leo *
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 15, 2013, 07:53:29 AM
He apparently wanted more money for assistants. Bizarre move.

They need to go after Todd Cooley at Delta State. He was their OC during their best years anyways.
Dark horse would be Nathan Brown  or Hendy High's coach.

What about former UCA Qb Ken Collums?
He was QB for the 1991 National champ team and now HC at Abilene Christian Univ. While he was OC at the school they were setting offensive records.

edit: forgot to mention he was also a former UCA OC.

http://www.acusports.com/staff.aspx?staff=44
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: chittlins on December 15, 2013, 09:11:17 AM
I thought we already hired Ed O?  :stache:

O would be worth a million per in recruiting
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 15, 2013, 09:33:34 AM
O would be worth a million per in recruiting

Not to mention the salary he would need.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 15, 2013, 01:28:28 PM
@Hog_fan65 (Razorback Recruiting): Look for Arkansas to go after Texas Assistant Bo Davis. With the Mack Brown situation, he's a popular target. Coached at Bama few years ago
------------
Not sure if this guy is spit balling, reading woopig, or actually has some connection...

There is always Bobby Allen
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PorkRyan on December 15, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
@Hog_fan65 (Razorback Recruiting): Look for Arkansas to go after Texas Assistant Bo Davis. With the Mack Brown situation, he's a popular target. Coached at Bama few years ago
------------
Not sure if this guy is spit balling, reading woopig, or actually has some connection...


Sign him up.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 15, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
Frosted Tips University DL coach (formerly of UCF) John Panagos is speculated to be on the short list.

More early speculation from Pete Roussel is that Partridge will go after Manny Diaz and other coaches with heavy ties to Florida.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 15, 2013, 03:39:01 PM
Wonder if Partridge will take any of the grad assistants with him as position coaches at FAU.

I'm looking forward to following that program now.  Partridge seemed like a sharp guy; I bet he is successful.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on December 15, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
I'm looking forward to following that program now.  Partridge seemed like a sharp guy; I bet he is successful.

Prolly a good fit, and the timing is appropriate.  Everyone loves an ending with a Partridge in a palm tree.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 15, 2013, 06:17:14 PM
@BFeldmanCBS: QB Tyler Murphy transferring from #Florida: http://t.co/ISJnFSsyei

He can play immediately since he graduated. I could see FAU and a few others interested.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 15, 2013, 07:17:31 PM
Please god please strike down Jason Garrett tonight.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 15, 2013, 08:03:01 PM
Please god please strike down Jason Garrett tonight.

He is a fucking terrible game manager and his play calling is beyond overrated (Callahan sucks dick too).  When you have the lead and they can't stop the run, don't throw the fucking ball.  This is what happens when you put gingers in positions of power.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bogey7 on December 15, 2013, 08:05:29 PM
He is a fucking terrible game manager and his play calling is beyond overrated (Callahan sucks dick too).  When you have the lead and they can't stop the run, don't throw the fucking ball.  This is what happens when you put gingers in positions of power.

Kind of like Paul Petrino calling plays against ULM in 2012.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on December 15, 2013, 08:23:18 PM
Kind of like Paul Petrino calling plays against ULM in 2012.

Unfortunately like some of the games this year too. :(
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 15, 2013, 08:53:20 PM
Please god please strike down Jason Garrett tonight.


 :maundoed:  :thumbup:

Best post evar.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on December 15, 2013, 09:13:21 PM
Please god please strike down Jason Garrett tonight.

You should prolly axe Boar Bidet.  I hear she is pretty effective...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 16, 2013, 08:57:39 AM
Garrick McGee fired his whole defensive staff at UAB last night.  He walked into a pretty shitty situation at UAB, but he hasn't really done anything to give that program any life.

And Partridge getting 5 years 2.75m at FAU. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 16, 2013, 10:12:55 AM
@AROLDavid: RT @McMurphyESPN: New FAU coach Charlie Partridge's 5-year deal worth $2.76M, source told @ESPN. Will be formally introduced Tuesday




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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 16, 2013, 10:16:53 AM
@AROLDavid: RT @McMurphyESPN: New FAU coach Charlie Partridge's 5-year deal worth $2.76M, source told @ESPN. Will be formally introduced Tuesday




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Crap.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Sliver72 on December 16, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
@AROLDavid: RT @McMurphyESPN: New FAU coach Charlie Partridge's 5-year deal worth $2.76M, source told @ESPN. Will be formally introduced Tuesday




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Coach Partridge, FAU.
FAU, meet Coach Partridge.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 16, 2013, 11:14:05 AM
Anyone know what Partridge was making at Arkansas? Seems like it was at or near the top salaries for his position group nation wide.



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 16, 2013, 11:32:41 AM
Anyone know what Partridge was making at Arkansas? Seems like it was at or near the top salaries for his position group nation wide.

$350,000 according to this- http://arkansasnews.com/sections/razorbacks/arkansas-football-assistant-salaries-set-3-million.html

Assistants

OC/QB - Jim Chaney - $550,000

RB – Joel Thomas - $235,000

WR – Michael Smith – $275,000

OL - Sam Pittman - $275,000

TE – Barry Lunney Jr – $200,000

DL - Charlie Partridge - $350,000

LB – Randy Shannon - $315,000

DC/DBs - Chris Ash - $550,000

CB – Taver Johnson - $250,000

Other Staff Members

On-campus recruiting - Chris Hauser – $150,000

Football operations - Mark Taurisani - $80,000

HS relations – Bobby Allen – $150,000 (beginning July 1)

Strength coach - Ben Herbert - $300,000
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 16, 2013, 11:35:40 AM
$350,000 according to this- http://arkansasnews.com/sections/razorbacks/arkansas-football-assistant-salaries-set-3-million.html

Assistants

DC/DBs - Chris Ash - $550,000



 :suicide:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 16, 2013, 10:36:50 PM

Read where Saban is bringing in Kiffin as a consultant for the offense in preparation for the bowl.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: gambler on December 16, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
Read where Saban is bringing in Kiffin as a consultant for the offense in preparation for the bowl.

Interesting.
He just wants to fuck his wife.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 16, 2013, 11:51:42 PM
He just wants to fuck his wife.

Not a bad idea.  Maybe he could use one of his Dr Pepper trophies to stand on.

I'm wondering if Saban thinks Nussmeier gets hired away and he's evaluating Kiffin and how he fits.  If so, Bama plays at Knoxville next year, so that should provide some lols.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on December 17, 2013, 12:11:42 AM
Read where Saban is bringing in Kiffin as a consultant for the offense in preparation for the bowl.

Interesting.

That's what you call a jimmy sexton special. he floats some texas rumors and gets Sabes a $7MM+ deal. In return he asks Nick to do Lane a "solid", hoping to get Lane a decent job next year by showing potential suitors that the most brilliant coach in football looks to Lane Kiffin for advice..
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: dylanfreake on December 17, 2013, 05:43:18 AM
Arkansas State has got to be one of the best jobs for head coaches in the world.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 17, 2013, 10:30:46 AM
UCA coaching search in high gear.

UCA’s list deep in ‘good names’
 (http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2013/dec/17/ucas-list-deep-good-names-20131217/?f=sports)
Central Arkansas Athletic Director Brad Teague confirmed to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette on Monday that Auburn running backs coach Tim Horton, Henderson State Coach Scott Maxfield and former Arkansas State coach Steve Roberts are candidates for the vacant football coaching position.

The Bears are looking to replace Clint Conque, UCA’s all-time winningest coach, who resigned after 14 years Saturday to take over at Stephen F. Austin. Conque was 105-59 at UCA and he led the Bears to Southland Conference championships in 2008 and 2012 and consecutive NCAA Football Championship Subdivision appearances (2011, 2012).

Teague said that he wants to have a head coach in place by Friday for recruiting purposes.

Horton, 46, doesn’t have head-coaching experience, but his name is familiar in Conway and at UCA.

Horton, the son of former UCA coach Harold Horton, is in his first season at Auburn, which will play Florida State in the BCS Championship Game on Jan. 6 in Pasadena, Calif. He was running backs coach and recruiting coordinator at Arkansas in 2007-2012. Horton is a 1986 graduate of Conway High Schooland was a four-year letterman and three-year starter under Ken Hatfield at Arkansas.

Harold Horton coached at UCA in 1982-1989 and guided the Bears to two NAIA co-national championships,ties against Carson-Newman and Hillsdale in 1984 and 1985, respectively. He finished 74-12-5 at UCA and is currently an athletic booster for the school.

Maxfield, 53, recently completed his ninth season at Henderson State, which he led to a second consecutive Great American Conference championship. The Reddies finished 11-1 this season, but lost in the NCAA Division II playoffs to St. Cloud (Minn.) State.

Roberts, 49, spent nine seasons (2002-2010) at Arkansas State, where he led the then-Indians to a share of the Sun Belt Conference title and a New Orleans Bowl appearance in 2005. He is now the athletic director at Cabot High School.

“Those are three really good names,” Teague said Monday. “I’ve spoken to all of them about the job.”

Teague would not say which of the three, if any, had expressed interest.

“I don’t want to breach their confidence,” he said.

Gulf Coast (Miss.) Community College Coach Steve Campbell interviewed Monday. Campbell has coached at Gulf Coast for 10 seasons. He was 27-8 in three seasons at Delta State (1999-2001), leading the Statesmen to the 2000 NCAA Division II national championship. Before arriving at Gulf Coast in 2004, Campbell was an assistant at Middle Tennessee (2002) and Mississippi State (2003) in Jackie Sherrill’s final season.

Also, Delta State Coach Todd Cooley, a former UCA assistant coach, has expressed interest in the Bears’ job, according to multiple sources. Cooley was Conque’s offensive coordinator in 2005-2008 before leaving to take the same position at Northwestern (La.) State. He was 7-3 in his first season at Delta State in 2013, earning Gulf South Conference coach of the year honors.

Abilene Christian Coach and former UCA quarterback Ken Collums, 41, was expected to interview today. Collums is 13-9 in two seasons at Abilene Christian, a transitional member of the FCS. He was the Bears’ quarterback on the 1991 NAIA national championship team and was 30-8-3 in his collegiate career. Collums was UCA’s offensive coordinator in 2002-2004 before going to Abilene.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on December 17, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
That's what you call a jimmy sexton special. he floats some texas rumors and gets Sabes a $7MM+ deal. In return he asks Nick to do Lane a "solid", hoping to get Lane a decent job next year by showing potential suitors that the most brilliant coach in football looks to Lane Kiffin for advice..

Here's a guy who gets it.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 17, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
Send this up there.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Satchuation on December 17, 2013, 06:23:07 PM
Found out today that Nutt actually applied for the Stephen F. Austin job, but got passed over in favor of Conque. You'd think they'd be really impressed with back to back Cotton Boze there in Texas. Maybe he can get the Mafia back together if UCA hires Chris Hatcher.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: IH8LSU on December 17, 2013, 10:19:03 PM
Found out today that Nutt actually applied for the Stephen F. Austin job, but got passed over in favor of Conque. You'd think they'd be really impressed with back to back Cotton Boze there in Texas. Maybe he can get the Mafia back together if UCA hires Chris Hatcher.

Source? cause that's pretty damn funny.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hog Sauce on December 17, 2013, 11:11:39 PM
Exclusive: Why Texas Was So Sure They'd Get Nick Saban

http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/Exclusive-Why-Texas-Was-So-Sure-Theyd-Get-Nick-Saban-10-136-666 (http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/Exclusive-Why-Texas-Was-So-Sure-Theyd-Get-Nick-Saban-10-136-666)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 18, 2013, 07:10:27 AM
Mike Norvell (OC) reportedly getting raise to stay at Arizona State...believed to have interviewed for Ark State job. Chad Morris laughed off the ASU shot supposedly. Phil Robertson (Baylor OC) may still be in the running but I figure he gets a raise and stays, also he could be a serious candidate to replace Briles if the need arises.



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: subliznime on December 18, 2013, 07:55:16 AM

 :suicide:
?? ???
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Micky O'Boarke on December 18, 2013, 08:26:29 AM
Mike Norvell (OC) reportedly getting raise to stay at Arizona State...believed to have interviewed for Ark State job. Chad Morris laughed off the ASU shot supposedly. Phil Robertson (Baylor OC) may still be in the running but I figure he gets a raise and stays, also he could be a serious candidate to replace Briles if the need arises.

This guy?
(http://sicollegefootball.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/phil-robertson-p11.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 18, 2013, 08:35:29 AM
This guy?
(http://sicollegefootball.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/phil-robertson-p11.jpg)

Yes...that's him. Or maybe his name is Montgomery...who cares.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 08:42:33 AM
Norvell is a great guy. Knew him well at UCA.
Whoever whiffed on him, missed out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 18, 2013, 09:22:43 AM
As many 'piggers may know, Army fired Ellersby after five seasons and zero victories against the Mighty Midshipmen of Navy.  However, things have now stooped to an all-time low for the biggest branch of service known to man.  You heard it hear first,  Army has hired U.S. Marine Major General David Richwine, (Ret) as a head coach.  He was a Naval Aviator and intelligence bubba if I recall correctly.  Desperate times call for desperate measures. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 18, 2013, 09:31:24 AM
University of Mary (D-II - ND): Sources tell us South Dakota (FCS) defensive coordinator Jason Petrino has interviewed at Mary for the head job.

**I think Jason Petrino is a newphew of BMFP**
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 18, 2013, 09:38:11 AM
?? ???

He obviously is paid a lot because of his role as coordinator, but it's still odd to see half a million going to whomever coached our defensive backs this year.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 18, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
He obviously is paid a lot because of his role as coordinator, but it's still odd to see half a million going to whomever coached our defensive backs this year.
Our safeties were just awful, and Tevin forgot anything he ever might have known about tackling, but at the first of the year some of our CBs did look up at the ball and try to make a play on it so really that in itself is a miracle that deserves a raise.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 09:45:36 AM
As many 'piggers may know, Army fired Ellersby after five seasons and zero victories against the Mighty Midshipmen of Navy.  However, things have now stooped to an all-time low for the biggest branch of service known to man.  You heard it hear first,  Army has hired U.S. Marine Major General David Richwine, (Ret) as a head coach.  He was a Naval Aviator and intelligence bubba if I recall correctly.  Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Do you actually think this is funny?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: marine4ark on December 18, 2013, 10:22:10 AM
Do you actually think this is funny?

Sad actually, but I edited my post.  I got some disinformation and it is not going to come to fruition. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on December 18, 2013, 10:23:16 AM
This tool has been bound and gagged for your Woopig enjoyment. Show this post.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 18, 2013, 11:30:36 AM
Sad actually, but I edited my post.  I got some disinformation and it is not going to come to fruition. 

thats to bad
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 18, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
 ::)


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TC on December 18, 2013, 11:42:39 AM
Sad actually, but I edited my post.  I got some disinformation and it is not going to come to fruition.

I'd say you weren't Wright, but you really R Sean.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DirkPiggler on December 18, 2013, 01:17:21 PM
Exclusive: Why Texas Was So Sure They'd Get Nick Saban

http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/Exclusive-Why-Texas-Was-So-Sure-Theyd-Get-Nick-Saban-10-136-666 (http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/Exclusive-Why-Texas-Was-So-Sure-Theyd-Get-Nick-Saban-10-136-666)

It wouldn't shock me to see Saban end up a whorn.  Supposedly, even with his extension and raise at Alabama his contract doesn't have a buyout for Saban should he leave. 

He has to be tired of living around those simpletons for so many years. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 18, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
Norvell is a great guy. Knew him well at UCA.
Whoever whiffed on him, missed out.

He's now given the title of "Deputy Head Coach" at Arizona State...this sounds almost Nutt like.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 01:32:02 PM
He's now given the title of "Deputy Head Coach" at Arizona State...this sounds almost Nutt like.
It's Todd Graham-like. That dude certainly has to have his own category of douchiness by now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: authorhawgerelli on December 18, 2013, 01:32:55 PM
Our safeties were just awful, and Tevin forgot anything he ever might have known about tackling, but at the first of the year some of our CBs did look up at the ball and try to make a play on it so really that in itself is a miracle that deserves a raise.

I agree with notas questioning paying whomever coached the CB's a half million.  I will offer this info though.  Tevin Mitchell became a daddy for the first time around the first game.  Somewhere along there, he got a concussion, and then his mother fell into a coma for a period of time.  Last I've heard, his mom is doing better, and out of the coma.  I think (not 100% sure) she had a stroke.  That's a lot.  I think replacing the CB's with true freshmen pretty much explains just how bare the cupboard was left on the defensive side.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: authorhawgerelli on December 18, 2013, 01:33:38 PM
This guy?
(http://sicollegefootball.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/phil-robertson-p11.jpg)

This Phil Robertson actually coached at Junction City for a couple of years.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 18, 2013, 01:35:21 PM
I agree with notas questioning paying whomever coached the CB's a half million.  I will offer this info though.  Tevin Mitchell became a daddy for the first time around the first game.  Somewhere along there, he got a concussion, and then his mother fell into a coma for a period of time.  Last I've heard, his mom is doing better, and out of the coma.  I think (not 100% sure) she had a stroke.  That's a lot.  I think replacing the CB's with true freshmen pretty much explains just how bare the cupboard was left on the defensive side.

one of these things can be prevented. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 18, 2013, 02:04:36 PM
one of these things can be prevented.

Yes.  Don't piss off Boar Bidet.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Guardrail on December 18, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
one of these things can be prevented. 

His skillz with prevent defense was not his strong suit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 18, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
He's now given the title of "Deputy Head Coach" at Arizona State...this sounds almost Nutt like.


Does that come with a badge?

(http://www.agentgearusa.com/media/large_lone_ranger_deputy_badge.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: MDEM on December 18, 2013, 02:12:44 PM
one of these things can be prevented.

Yep, now that she has Obamacare she can afford to get her triglycerides under control and prevent another stroke.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 18, 2013, 02:13:31 PM


Does that come with a badge?

(http://www.agentgearusa.com/media/large_lone_ranger_deputy_badge.jpg)

Gotta save something to sweeten the pot for next year.


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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 18, 2013, 02:15:04 PM
I agree with notas questioning paying whomever coached the CB's a half million.  I will offer this info though.  Tevin Mitchell became a daddy for the first time around the first game.  Somewhere along there, he got a concussion, and then his mother fell into a coma for a period of time.  Last I've heard, his mom is doing better, and out of the coma.  I think (not 100% sure) she had a stroke.  That's a lot.  I think replacing the CB's with true freshmen pretty much explains just how bare the cupboard was left on the defensive side.


Like sands through the hour glass...
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 18, 2013, 02:15:09 PM
Yep, now that she has Obamacare she can afford to get her triglycerides under control and prevent another stroke.

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 18, 2013, 03:05:00 PM
He's now given the title of "Deputy Head Coach" at Arizona State...this sounds almost Nutt like.
(http://cdn.iofferphoto.com/img/item/134/144/817/g_O3P9622Kq6Fi2di.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 18, 2013, 03:46:15 PM
Patterson to Texas? Wondering if that had anything to do with Cornelius re-flipping. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: gmr0723 on December 18, 2013, 03:56:16 PM
Patterson to Texas? Wondering if that had anything to do with Cornelius re-flipping.

I haven't heard/seen much along those lines, mainly because of the record the past two years.  The thought was that he was off the radar.  Who knows.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 18, 2013, 04:05:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10159860/dino-babers-hired-coach-bowling-green-falcons?src=mobile

This sounds like someone ASU should have talked to. He might have been another one-and-done, but sounds like he would fit in well.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 04:14:14 PM
@BDavisAAS: BREAKING UT announces Steve Patterson has appointed 8-person advisory search comm to replace Mack Brown




 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on December 18, 2013, 04:16:02 PM
@BDavisAAS: BREAKING UT announces Steve Patterson has appointed 8-person advisory search comm to replace Mack Brown




 :maundoed:

I hope Vince Young and Ricky Williams are one of the eight
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on December 18, 2013, 04:16:15 PM
@BDavisAAS: BREAKING UT announces Steve Patterson has appointed 8-person advisory search comm to replace Mack Brown




 :maundoed:

confirmed - HA

ESPN Texas ‏@ESPNTexas 3m

Texas announces AD Steve Patterson has appointed an 8-person committee for head coaching search.



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 18, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
 :rofl:

So much for the whole "we will pick our candidate and go get them" bullshit that Texas believed. I can only hope this ends up as successful as our search committee in the 90s. Maybe even the exact same result.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 04:24:05 PM
Committee should be:
Jordan Shipley
Earl Campbell
Mack Brown
Matthew McConnaghey
Major Applewhite
Chris Simms
Mark Duplass
Jevan Snead
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 18, 2013, 04:24:46 PM
They are finding out it's harder to move a happy camper out of their current spot. I'm sure there are plenty of takers for the gig but it's their own damn fault for hyping this shit up so much that they have painted themselves in a corner. If they don't hire a big name...their fan base is going to have a epic meltdown.

On the other hand, they could already have their man and using this bullshit committee as a delay tactic tell after bowl season.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 18, 2013, 04:24:57 PM
So the committee that was chosen to hire the AD is now being chosen by the AD to hire the guy that the AD was hired to hire.  Awesome.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 04:25:50 PM
So the committee that was chosen to hire the AD is now being chosen by the AD to hire the guy that the AD was hired to hire.  Awesome.
It's a delicate process.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on December 18, 2013, 04:27:06 PM
So the committee that was chosen to hire the AD is now being chosen by the AD to hire the guy that the AD was hired to hire.  Awesome.

So what the fuck is the point of having an AD? Just have the committee run the athletic department
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 04:31:45 PM
So what the fuck is the point of having an AD? Just have the committee run the athletic department
You just don't understand. It's different at Texas.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on December 18, 2013, 04:44:52 PM
You just don't understand. It's different at Texas.


Seems as if we used the coaching search committee before . . .

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on December 18, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
Committee should be:
Jordan Shipley
Earl Campbell
Mack Brown
Matthew McConnaghey
Major Applewhite
Chris Simms
Mark Duplass
Jevan Snead

joetheismansankle
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LaMoHog on December 18, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
:rofl:

So much for the whole "we will pick our candidate and go get them" bullshit that Texas believed. I can only hope this ends up as successful as our search committee in the 90s. Maybe even the exact same result.

The committee should now go hire a firm to find em a corch, then take off and hit the links.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 05:10:16 PM
What about former UCA Qb Ken Collums?
He was QB for the 1991 National champ team and now HC at Abilene Christian Univ. While he was OC at the school they were setting offensive records.

edit: forgot to mention he was also a former UCA OC.

http://www.acusports.com/staff.aspx?staff=44

Collums it be.

I really preferred Cooley, who would've been my #1 guy to go after, but this will go over really well, too.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 18, 2013, 05:11:11 PM

#ChurchofChristForTheWin
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: UnderHog on December 18, 2013, 05:11:26 PM
The purpose may be to slow the process down enough to get Saban in January.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 18, 2013, 05:20:03 PM
Collums is a good hire.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 18, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
@footballscoop 1m
Sources tell us Blake Anderson will be the new head coach at Arkansas State
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 05:29:23 PM
Football Scoop is saying Collums may not be a done deal....  but I was just told it's just details being ironed out and that it's basically in the bag.

UNC's OC to A-State appears to be in the works, though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on December 18, 2013, 05:32:55 PM
No committee to hire a coach should be a committee to hire a coach without Quinn Grovey on the committee to hire a coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 05:36:35 PM
No committee to hire a coach should be a committee to hire a coach without Quinn Grovey on the committee to hire a coach.
You're right.
I should replace Chris Simms with Chance Mock on my UT committee.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 18, 2013, 08:27:21 PM
The committee should now go hire a firm to find em a corch, then take off and hit the links.
Actually, they did. Formed a committee, and hired a recruiting firm.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on December 18, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
@footballscoop 1m
Sources tell us Blake Anderson will be the new head coach at Arkansas State
I'm not sure that's in the bag quite yet either.

Bigger fish on the line for stAte...

Bigger fish falls thru....Anderson it is.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: raisinsnacks on December 18, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
Blake Anderson ‏@UncleBlazer 1h
Excited for my NEW JOB as offensive coordinator over at Arkansas! Workaholics was fun but I feel offensive coordinating is my true calling!

Blake Anderson ‏@UncleBlazer 1h
It's not YOURkansas, it's not MYkanasas, it's OURkansas. Go Razorbacks and also Razorbutts! Arakansas is the California of 2014!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: livnlarge on December 18, 2013, 09:11:32 PM
@BDavisAAS: BREAKING UT announces Steve Patterson has appointed 8-person advisory search comm to replace Mack Brown



 :maundoed:

Mack must have shouldered a lot of responsibility if it takes eight people to fill his role.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 18, 2013, 09:23:20 PM
Blake Anderson ‏@UncleBlazer 1h
Excited for my NEW JOB as offensive coordinator over at Arkansas! Workaholics was fun but I feel offensive coordinating is my true calling!

Blake Anderson ‏@UncleBlazer 1h
It's not YOURkansas, it's not MYkanasas, it's OURkansas. Go Razorbacks and also Razorbutts! Arakansas is the California of 2014!

Love workaholics.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 18, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
And UCA gets Sextoned. Ken Collums signs 4 year extension to stay at ACU.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 18, 2013, 11:59:36 PM
UCA just got jobbed by an alumnus and hired a JuCo coach. Hope those old alumni are happy. Teague got told not to pursue Cooley and was given a strapped budget to lure Collums from a private school (in conference now, btw) with. Unreal. Well that's what you get.

Fucking bullshit.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Clark on December 19, 2013, 12:01:19 AM
UCA just got jobbed by an alumnus and hired a JuCo coach. Hope those old alumni are happy. Teague got told not to pursue Cooley and was given a strapped budget to lure Collums from a private school (in conference now, btw) with. Unreal. Well that's what you get.

Fucking bullshit.
You mad, bro?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 19, 2013, 12:05:36 AM
You mad, bro?

A bit. I've made no qualms about also being a UCA guy here.



They did get a good coach though, so we shall see.
Wish the old guard alumni would try to give a shit for the basketball program though.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: TexZilla on December 19, 2013, 12:24:25 AM
I hope Vince Young and Ricky Williams are one of the eight

Add in Matthew McConaughey and Willie Nelson.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hogye West on December 19, 2013, 07:03:01 AM
Add in Matthew McConaughey and Willie Nelson.

Throw Roger Clemens in and you got a party
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on December 19, 2013, 08:33:03 AM
Looks like Arkansas State's AD made it official via Twitter. They hired Blake Anderson.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: raisinsnacks on December 19, 2013, 09:44:10 AM
LOL Looks like someone doesn't know how location services work. (this is stAte's AD from this morning, BTW)

Terry Mohajir ‏@TerryMohajirAD 2h
I'm excited to announce Blake Anderson as our new head football coach!  More details coming soon @AStateRedWolves

That tweet was tweeted from...
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=34.67093287%2C-82.88474888&z=15


Ah, the ol' Twitter Walk of Shame.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 19, 2013, 09:47:50 AM
A little last minute run at Chad Morris I guess?  :maundoed:

Enjoy coach buh-lah-kay
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Trigger7672 on December 19, 2013, 10:12:45 AM
That's great. He sent the tweet at an airport 10 minutes away from Clemson. Oops.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 19, 2013, 10:14:25 AM
That's great. He sent the tweet at an airport 10 minutes away from Clemson. Oops.

Maybe the plane landed in South Carolina coming from North Carolina.


Duh
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 19, 2013, 10:18:26 AM
Speaking of howlin and aMm, here's their AD in action a couple days ago.  I couldn't find the original thread.

http://vimeo.com/82120541
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 19, 2013, 10:21:10 AM
LOL Looks like someone doesn't know how location services work. (this is stAte's AD from this morning, BTW)

Here's a spot where tweeting "Thank you, Jesus" could be interpreted multiple ways.



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 19, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
Speaking of howlin and aMm, here's their AD in action a couple days ago.  I couldn't find the original thread.

http://vimeo.com/82120541

"Can you believe it? Can you believe it....  We're a statewide program."

Wow. That's pretty embarrassing.
I'm not even referring to all of the weird howling.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 19, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
Looks like Arkansas State's AD made it official via Twitter. They hired Blake Anderson.

Here's the breathtaking play-by-play.


http://tribalden.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=c42uo591atclkphj48pdlajrd1&topic=371.0
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 19, 2013, 10:48:22 AM
UCA just got jobbed by an alumnus and hired a JuCo coach. Hope those old alumni are happy. Teague got told not to pursue Cooley and was given a strapped budget to lure Collums from a private school (in conference now, btw) with. Unreal. Well that's what you get.

Fucking bullshit.

Not sure what all happened behind the scenes at UCA with this alumnus you are referring to. As a UCA grad, I'm curious. I wish you would share the story.

I also think UCA shit the bed by not getting Collums. I know his HC record at ACU isn't great but they are in a transition period to FCS. What he did as an OC at both UCA and ACU was pretty darn good. He was a UCA guy and knew the system. I think he would have done great with the Bears.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 19, 2013, 10:51:25 AM
Collums played them for a raise back at ACU is what I was referring to.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 19, 2013, 11:06:54 AM
Ok. My reading comprehension is about 1st grade level today.

Well, if thats the case I say we are probably better off going another route. Hope the new guy is successful.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on December 19, 2013, 11:09:16 AM
-I know his HC record at ACU isn't great but
-What he did as [a coordinator] at both [schools] was pretty darn good.
-He was a UCA guy and knew the system

I'm not disagreeing with you.  I don't know enough about Collums to make a decision either way.  I truly have no opinion regarding who they did and did not hire.

I just couldn't help but notice how familiar some parts of this sounded.    ;D

(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/aub/sports/m-footbl/auto_action/2594340.jpeg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 19, 2013, 11:31:58 AM
Collums played them for a raise back at ACU is what I was referring to.

Do you have insider information on this? It's just speculation but it's possible that he was very interested in the UCA job all the way up until the part where UCA didn't come up with the money. He may also have given his current EMPLOYER an opportunity to meet or exceed the monetary package UCA was proposing as many do in every day jobs. It's even possible that he's put down roots at ACU and given the increased financial package he elected to stay. I don't think this means he "played" anyone. Sounds like to me he made a business decision as well as possibly a family decision to remain at ACU.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 19, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
Do you have insider information on this? It's just speculation but it's possible that he was very interested in the UCA job all the way up until the part where UCA didn't come up with the money. He may also have given his current EMPLOYER an opportunity to meet or exceed the monetary package UCA was proposing as many do in every day jobs. It's even possible that he's put down roots at ACU and given the increased financial package he elected to stay. I don't think this means he "played" anyone. Sounds like to me he made a business decision as well as possibly a family decision to remain at ACU.

Collums was from Vernon, TX. A lot closer to Abilene than Conway.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RiverRat on December 19, 2013, 02:04:44 PM
Collums was from Vernon, TX. A lot closer to Abilene than Conway.

Yeah but his wife is from Rison. What's your point.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Too Big Pig on December 19, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
Yeah but his wife is from Rison. What's your point.

Just saying close to home comes into play when making what would be considered almost a lateral move at this point. Didn't know his wife was from Rison.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 19, 2013, 02:36:28 PM
Do you have insider information on this? It's just speculation but it's possible that he was very interested in the UCA job all the way up until the part where UCA didn't come up with the money. He may also have given his current EMPLOYER an opportunity to meet or exceed the monetary package UCA was proposing as many do in every day jobs. It's even possible that he's put down roots at ACU and given the increased financial package he elected to stay. I don't think this means he "played" anyone. Sounds like to me he made a business decision as well as possibly a family decision to remain at ACU.

That's all nice and everything when you put it that way, but he worked it like anybody else would in that situation.
I'm not ripping him at all. That was certainly not my intent.

But a lot of folks wanted a "UCA man" and tried to steer Teague away from some good candidates because of it. It took an alumnus in Collums burning him to end that. In turn, he reached out to get a coach that he no doubt knew well from his time at Delta State years ago.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 19, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
ASU about to get paid....Anderson's buyout starts at 3 million the first two years, 2 million the next 2 years, then 1 million. His salary is just $700k/year.

It's comical they even went after Morris. No way would he have left his current gig to take on that kind of buyout, for that kind of pay cut. Less than half what he is making now.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: BrandonN004 on December 20, 2013, 06:18:03 PM
https://twitter.com/BrianEarly2 (https://twitter.com/BrianEarly2)
apparently losing a coach to arkansas state :/
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 20, 2013, 06:27:47 PM
https://twitter.com/BrianEarly2 (https://twitter.com/BrianEarly2)
apparently losing a coach to arkansas state :/

So he was part of our auxiliary staff, we have a few guys...Bama has an entire division.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 27, 2013, 02:12:31 PM
Nick Aliotti is retiring from Oregon after the bowl game. Maybe Coach O will end up with that job so he can stick it to USC.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: ups_hog on December 28, 2013, 06:02:15 PM
Mort says that Bill O'Brien is the leading candidate for the Texans job. 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 28, 2013, 06:07:53 PM
Mort says that Bill O'Brien is the leading candidate for the Texans job. 

espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach

He sure does want out of that situation. Recruiting has done nothing but improve, but it just makes you wonder if he's wanting to bail out for other reasons.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: slimswiney on December 28, 2013, 06:14:18 PM

BMFP still to radioactive for a prime gig?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Stephen Colboar on December 28, 2013, 06:25:12 PM
He sure does want out of that situation. Recruiting has done nothing but improve, but it just makes you wonder if he's wanting to bail out for other reasons.

He's just an NFL guy. It's where he'll ultimately end up. It's why there was mutual interest in the Eagles gig last season before they went after Chip Kelly.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on December 28, 2013, 06:35:14 PM
BMFP still to radioactive for a prime gig?

It might have helped lessen the blown and shorten memories had Arkansas continued to win at a decent clip in his absence. As it is, he is probably lucky to have the WKU gig.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on December 28, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
It might have helped lessen the blown and shorten memories had Arkansas continued to win at a decent clip in his absence. As it is, he is probably lucky to have the WKU gig.
Yep, one side might argue that the trouble we are having is because he is no longer here.  But the other side of it, and probably the correct one, is that his lack of recruiting, etc. has put us in that position.  I think unless he takes W Kentucky to some 10 win seasons, no one may take a chance on him.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on December 28, 2013, 07:15:36 PM
Yep, one side might argue that the trouble we are having is because he is no longer here.  But the other side of it, and probably the correct one, is that his lack of recruiting, etc. has put us in that position.  I think unless he takes W Kentucky to some 10 win seasons, no one may take a chance on him.  Time will tell.

He needs to leave a program and it not turn into a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: KCHOGS on December 28, 2013, 07:36:25 PM
BMFP still to radioactive for a prime gig?

He likes grown women, PSU has been known to like the opposite.   His system won't work in the Big 10.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 30, 2013, 02:17:14 AM
Oregon boards are saying Randy Shannon is a candidate for their DC job.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: VegasHog on December 30, 2013, 07:26:37 AM
Oregon boards are saying Randy Shannon is a candidate for their DC job.

Bruce Feldman @BFeldmanCBS
Could see #Oregon considering Randy Shannon for vacant DC job. Former Broyles Award winner is legit & has many ties to #UO staff.

I hope they are just throwing shit out there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: cotte on December 30, 2013, 07:51:55 AM
It is/possibly was only a matter of time that before he accepts a coordinator position. He's too good to keep as a linebackers coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 30, 2013, 08:37:37 AM
It is/possibly was only a matter of time that before he accepts a coordinator position. He's too good to keep as a linebackers coach.

We have a vacancy, why not promote him, Bielema?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on December 30, 2013, 08:47:17 AM
We have a vacancy, why not promote him, Bielema?

Defensive line coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 30, 2013, 08:49:12 AM
Defensive line coach?

 :suicide: I thought Partridge was our DC.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on December 30, 2013, 09:32:21 AM
:suicide: I thought Partridge was our DC.
Ash is, but Partridge was the Asst. Head Coach and had a very nice salary for a position coach. If they wanted Shannon badly enough they could offer him that, although they might have someone else they want on the Dline they want to offer that to.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: DLog12 on December 31, 2013, 09:29:24 PM
Mort says that Bill O'Brien is the leading candidate for the Texans job. 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10205777/bill-obrien-penn-state-nittany-lions-coach-working-deal-become-houston-texans-head-coach)

Done deal
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: subliznime on December 31, 2013, 10:08:43 PM
:suicide: I thought Partridge was our DC.
Really man?
So is this becomming the board of banter and wit and not of actual knowledge?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogofWar on December 31, 2013, 10:12:29 PM
Really man?
So is this becomming the board of banter and wit and not of actual knowledge?

Sorry. I was under stress to post something. Fuck off!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: CardiacHOG on December 31, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
School                 2013 Coach            2014 Coach
Arkansas State     Bryan Harsin          Blake Anderson
Army                   Rich Ellerson          Jeff Monken
Boise State          Chris Petersen        Bryan Harsin
Bowling Green      Dave Clawson        Dino Babers
Connecticut          Paul Pasqualoni      Bob Diaco
Eastern Michigan  Ron English            Chris Creighton
Florida Atlantic     Carl Pelini              Charlie Partridge
Massachusetts     Charley Molnar         ?
Miami (Ohio)       Don Treadwell         Chuck Martin
Penn State        Bill O'Brian              ?         
Texas                 Mack Brown             ?
USC                   Lane Kiffin               Steve Sarkisian

Wake Forest       Jim Grobe                Dave Clawson
Washington        Steve Sarkisian        Chris Petersen
Wyoming           Dave Christensen      Craig Bohl


At least 3 historic programs changing HCs.  It will be interesting to see what dominoes fall when Texas and PSU make their hires.  It's hard to believe there could be 0 changes in the SEC.  That is unless you believe the Saban/Sumlin/Malzahn/Franklin to NFL rumors. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 01, 2014, 07:32:36 AM
I would expect Greg Schiano to be named Penn State coach by the end of the week.  Then again, I am an idiot. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on January 01, 2014, 09:15:41 AM
The Texas search sounds like a carbon copy of ours from last year. Interviewed Charlie Strong and James Franklin and want to interview Mark Dantonio.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bar_hog on January 01, 2014, 09:23:57 AM
bet they don't hire random coach who rights the AD a letter about how much they admire his integrity.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cove Hog on January 01, 2014, 09:26:37 AM
bet they don't hire random coach who rights the AD a letter about how much they admire his integrity.

I'll bet your write.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HogHead McCormick on January 01, 2014, 09:31:54 AM
Gus is on Sportscenter now.
WTF is that on his neck?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on January 01, 2014, 09:34:02 AM
bet they don't hire random coach who rights the AD a letter about how much they admire his integrity.

I'll do you one better - I bet they don't hire a coach as good, accomplished, or highly regarded as Bret Bielema.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PigHair on January 01, 2014, 09:42:38 AM
bet they don't hire random coach who rights the AD a letter about how much they admire his integrity.

I think you're probably write.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on January 01, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
I still concur with some poster way earlier who noted that Texas hasn't conducted a coaching search in the new, modern age of media.

They'll get played for a few raises just like everyone else typically does.  If I were Gus though and the job was offered, I'd take it. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Vito Porkleone on January 01, 2014, 10:31:50 AM
I still concur with some poster way earlier who noted that Texas hasn't conducted a coaching search in the new, modern age of media.

They'll get played for a few raises just like everyone else typically does.  If I were Gus though and the job was offered, I'd take it.

I'm probably in a very small minority, but I still think Saban could be in play for Texas.  The fire has died down in both Austin and Tuscaloosa, everyone in Bama is focused on ass raping Stoops, then Nick drops the hammer at the end of next week.  All of those reasons why he and the wife might consider leaving are still there.

At the end of the day, I think it will be Saban or Gus, no matter what they say.  There will be a truckload of money under teh overpass.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Cerdo on January 01, 2014, 10:40:59 AM
I think all of that is a possibility.  Saban to Texas would be funny too because we're only talking a short term coaching hire anyway.... we're talking about a 62 year old guy.

Have you guys heard about this Bill O'Brien quote from this fall?

“You can print this: You can print that I don’t really give a ---- what the ‘Paterno people’ think about what I do with this program. I’ve done everything I can to show respect to Coach Paterno. Everything in my power. So I could really care less about what the Paterno faction of people, or whatever you call them, think about what I do with the program. I’m tired of it.

“For any ‘Paterno person’ to have any objection to what I’m doing, it makes me wanna put my fist through this windshield right now.”


You have to assume that these idiotic Penn State fans, the same ones who celebrated a failing football coach who was a decade past retirement and rioted when their whole pedophilia ring was outed - you have to assume these Penn State fans are among the most myopic fuckers to ever pollute a stadium.

Good luck to the next dumbass that takes over that shithole program. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on January 01, 2014, 12:48:02 PM
I can't believe anyone in the national media still thinks our fans are crazy for the 2007 happenings.
Bama fans shoot each other after a loss, kill trees, tea bag passed out LSU fans, and after all that's gone on Penn State fans still want Paterno to matter. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bar_hog on January 01, 2014, 03:59:54 PM
hopefully Bret will regain that respect when he finally wins an sec game
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on January 01, 2014, 05:56:54 PM

Good luck to the next dumbass that takes over that shithole program.
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/0EY.OfDMBbxoKSuAM.Qp.w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnflexperts/GS.jpg)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on January 01, 2014, 08:23:13 PM
http://tracking.si.com/2014/01/01/buccaneers-hire-lovie-smith-as-next-head-coach/

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers hired Lovie Smith as their next head coach after reaching an agreement on a contract with the former Chicago Bears coach, reports ESPN.com’s Adam Schefter.

Smith will replace Greg Schiano, who was fired on Monday after two years on the job and three years left on his contract.

Smith, 55, had been out of coaching since being fired after the Bears finished 10-6 and missed the playoffs in 2012. He had a 81-63 record in nine seasons with the Bears and led the team to three division titles and one Super Bowl appearance.

Smith was also the Buccaneers linebackers coach from 1996-2000.

He reportedly also interviewed with Houston Texans for their head coaching job. The Texans ended up hiring Penn State head coach Bill O’Brien.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: BigDMac on January 01, 2014, 09:05:05 PM
Any truth to the rumor about Ash going to Tampa Bay as DC and Randy Shannon being promoted to DC at Arkansas? I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 09:07:21 PM
Any truth to the rumor about Ash going to Tampa Bay as DC and Randy Shannon being promoted to DC at Arkansas? I'll hang up and listen.

As DB coach, not DC
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Thin Red Swine on January 01, 2014, 09:08:10 PM
hopefully Bret will regain that respect when he finally wins an sec game

Your new Delta Tau Woo name is...Non Sequitur Hog.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on January 01, 2014, 09:11:12 PM
Any truth to the rumor about Ash going to Tampa Bay as DC and Randy Shannon being promoted to DC at Arkansas? I'll hang up and listen.


Sounds like Nobville rumoring.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: NotoriousPIG on January 01, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2014/gus-malzahn-james-franklin-cleveland/ (http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2014/gus-malzahn-james-franklin-cleveland/)
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 01, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
No way Cleveland is interested in Malzahn.  I find it hard to believe an NFL front office is smarter than the majority of people on woopig. 

As I type that, I realize we are talking about Cleveland, who has been in the playoffs once in the last 18 years?  That's hard to do in the NFL.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Turd F. on January 01, 2014, 11:01:45 PM
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/01/report-art-briles-would-listen-to-texas-overtures-accept-job-if-offered/

While most of the focus on Art Briles‘ future has been connected a potential move to the NFL, it could very well be an FBS program in Baylor’s home state that swipes the innovative head coach from the Bears.

The Austin American-Statesman, citing sources close to Briles, reported very early Wednesday afternoon that Briles would be willing to meet with Texas regarding its opening after the Bears’ Fiesta Bowl Wednesday night.  Not only would the coach be interested in listening to overtures from the Longhorns, the American-Statesman writes “that Briles would accept the Texas job if offered.”

Briles, who has deep roots in the state of Texas, has been connected to the vacancy ever since it was announced that Mack Brown would be stepping down after UT’s bowl game.  Briles has also been mentioned as a possibility for the opening with the Washington Redskins, where his former quarterback, Robert Griffin III, is viewed as the future of the franchise.

On that front, Briles acknowledged earlier this week that he’s intrigued by how his style of offense would fit at the professional level.

In mid-November, Briles reached an agreement on a new contract that would keep him in Waco through the 2023 season if he remains with the program.  While the details of the new deal are not available, it’s believed the buyout is in excess of $4 million and could be as high as $12 million.  A program like Texas, however, likely wouldn’t blink at an eight-figure sum

The American-Statesman also confirmed that Louisville head coach Charlie Strong had interviewed with athletic director Steve Patterson a couple of days.  The interview took place at an undisclosed location, after which Strong was told that the university planned on interviewing additional candidates.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on January 01, 2014, 11:22:03 PM
So apparently Partridge is bringing our ST coach Hurd with him. So now we need a DL coach and ST.

What else did Hurd coach?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on January 01, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
So apparently Partridge is bringing our ST coach Hurd with him. So now we need a DL coach and ST.

What else did Hurd coach?

He was a quality control guy like the guy who left for an asst job at Arkansas state. Part of the auxiliary staff.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 01, 2014, 11:38:25 PM
He was a quality control guy like the guy who left for an asst job at Arkansas state. Part of the auxiliary staff.

Yeah, Partridge was the ST coach.

We will lose these auxiliary guys to actual asst coaching positions on the regular.  Same as we do GAs.  It's the normal way to move up the ladder.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on January 02, 2014, 09:10:32 AM
He was a quality control guy

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on January 02, 2014, 09:12:55 AM
Yeah, Partridge was the ST coach.

We will lose these auxiliary guys to actual asst coaching positions on the regular.  Same as we do GAs.  It's the normal way to move up the ladder.
That makes more sense. Someone on twitter said Hurd was our ST coach and taking a similar role there which made no sense.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on January 02, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
I kinda doubt Ash goes to Tampa Bay as a DB coach. The speculation in Tampa is that they may hire Tedford as OC and Leslie Frazier as DC which would make for a pretty good staff.




Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on January 02, 2014, 09:40:20 AM
I kinda doubt Ash goes to Tampa Bay as a DB coach. The speculation in Tampa is that they may hire Tedford as OC and Leslie Frazier as DC which would make for a pretty good staff.
I thought they already hired Tedford and then Marinelli as DC?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on January 02, 2014, 09:43:05 AM
Marinelli has to be released by the Cowboys.  Indications are that they don't want to do that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Animal on January 02, 2014, 09:52:56 AM
I thought they already hired Tedford and then Marinelli as DC?

They may have, but they just hired Smith last night "technically".
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 02, 2014, 10:31:04 AM
I think all of that is a possibility.  Saban to Texas would be funny too because we're only talking a short term coaching hire anyway.... we're talking about a 62 year old guy.

Have you guys heard about this Bill O'Brien quote from this fall?

“You can print this: You can print that I don’t really give a ---- what the ‘Paterno people’ think about what I do with this program. I’ve done everything I can to show respect to Coach Paterno. Everything in my power. So I could really care less about what the Paterno faction of people, or whatever you call them, think about what I do with the program. I’m tired of it.

“For any ‘Paterno person’ to have any objection to what I’m doing, it makes me wanna put my fist through this windshield right now.”


You have to assume that these idiotic Penn State fans, the same ones who celebrated a failing football coach who was a decade past retirement and rioted when their whole pedophilia ring was outed - you have to assume these Penn State fans are among the most myopic fuckers to ever pollute a stadium.

Good luck to the next dumbass that takes over that shithole program.


“That’s why, in probably about a month, they’re gonna be ----ing looking for a new coach.” (http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/01/bill_obrien_the_outsider_arriv.html)

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on January 02, 2014, 10:34:28 AM

“That’s why, in probably about a month, they’re gonna be ----ing looking for a new coach.” (http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/01/bill_obrien_the_outsider_arriv.html)
I like this guy. Penn State is really just an awful place, and don't deserve a coach that seems to be helping them rebuild. I hope they hire Greg Schiano and he goes down in even bigger flames than he did at Tampa Bay.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on January 02, 2014, 10:53:38 AM

“That’s why, in probably about a month, they’re gonna be ----ing looking for a new coach.” (http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/01/bill_obrien_the_outsider_arriv.html)



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I learned a while ago that if two opposite principals in a disagreement are unwilling to speak about its evolution or resolution, it’s best to discard any tangential interpretations from various third parties and leave it alone.

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Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 02, 2014, 02:01:55 PM
I like this guy. Penn State is really just an awful place, and don't deserve a coach that seems to be helping them rebuild. I hope they hire Greg Schiano and he goes down in even bigger flames than he did at Tampa Bay.

Their fans are deeply divided much like ours were at the end with Nutt.

Half of their fans are ready to move on and hire someone totally different.  The other half rally at the spot where his statue used to be, roar when they see his face on the screen in the pregame, etc.  The sane ones calls these people "JoeBots".

I can empathize with the good fans, they have a lot in common with those of us who were anti-Nutt.  They admit what Joe did wrong and are embarassed about it and want to put it behind them.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: PorkRyan on January 02, 2014, 02:10:57 PM
I have seen three different tweets by national guys saying Gus is one of the final 3 candidates for the Cleveland job.  SI was the most recent.  Gus, Franklin, and McDummy. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on January 02, 2014, 02:13:19 PM
I have seen three different tweets by national guys saying Gus is one of the final 3 candidates for the Cleveland job.  SI was the most recent.  Gus, Franklin, and McDummy.

Pretty crazy that he could go from head coach of a high school in Springdale, Arkansas to head coach of an NFL team in less than a decade. 

I hope he takes the job.  Coaches don't last longer than a few years in Cleveland. When Bielema's buyout is more manageable in 3-4 years, Malzahn will be available for the Hogs.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: LashHog on January 02, 2014, 02:22:36 PM
Pretty crazy that he could go from head coach of a high school in Springdale, Arkansas to head coach of an NFL team in less than a decade. 

I hope he takes the job.  Coaches don't last longer than a few years in Cleveland. When Bielema's buyout is more manageable in 3-4 years, Malzahn will be available for the Hogs.
Even crazier will be Rhett Lashlee going from High School system QB to NFL OC in about a decade.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 02, 2014, 02:49:55 PM
Pretty crazy that he could go from head coach of a high school in Springdale, Arkansas to head coach of an NFL team in less than a decade. 

I hope he takes the job.  Coaches don't last longer than a few years in Cleveland. When Bielema's buyout is more manageable in 3-4 years, Malzahn will be available for the Hogs.

That's assuming Bielema doesn't succeed here and assuming Malzahn gets the job in Cleveland and assuming Malzahn doesn't succeed in Cleveland. 

The chances of all 3 of those happening are about 1 in 20.  I'll let the groupthink decide which ones to rank in what order, but I doubt all 3 of those combine in some mystical force to have Malzahn be our next head coach.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 02, 2014, 02:52:45 PM
That's assuming Bielema doesn't succeed here and assuming Malzahn gets the job in Cleveland and assuming Malzahn doesn't succeed in Cleveland. 

The chances of all 3 of those happening are about 1 in 20.  I'll let the groupthink decide which ones to rank in what order, but I doubt all 3 of those combine in some mystical force to have Malzahn be our next head coach.


Is Malzahn even interested in coaching the Razorbacks again?  I mean, I've never really seen anything indicating he's just pining to come back to the UA. 
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Shermy on January 02, 2014, 03:00:30 PM
That's assuming Bielema doesn't succeed here and assuming Malzahn gets the job in Cleveland and assuming Malzahn doesn't succeed in Cleveland. 

The chances of all 3 of those happening are about 1 in 20.  I'll let the groupthink decide which ones to rank in what order, but I doubt all 3 of those combine in some mystical force to have Malzahn be our next head coach.

Yeah--I wasn't serious. Malzahn isn't going to Cleveland, and I really hope Bielema does succeed as I don't want to waste 5 years of my life on 3-5 win teams.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on January 02, 2014, 03:04:49 PM

Is Malzahn even interested in coaching the Razorbacks again?  I mean, I've never really seen anything indicating he's just pining to come back to the UA.

Why would he want to compete with Gruden for the job?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 02, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
I don't want to waste 5 years of my life on 3-5 win teams.


Good thing you weren't old enough to understand between about 1990-1997.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on January 02, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
Everyone rooting for Malzahn to go to Cleveland will be crying with Petrino goes to Auburn.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: hogsrunwild on January 02, 2014, 03:29:09 PM
Everyone rooting for Malzahn to go to Cleveland will be crying with Petrino goes to Auburn.

That would be a disaster, for everyone except Auburn probably.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: abypfcs on January 02, 2014, 03:53:09 PM


I hope he takes the job.  Coaches don't last longer than a few years in Cleveland. When Bielema's buyout is more manageable in 3-4 years, Malzahn will be available for the Hogs.
Wait, we already passed on a Cleveland Browns coach once, didn't we?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 02, 2014, 03:58:16 PM
Even crazier will be Rhett Lashlee going from High School system QB to NFL OC in about a decade.

Dowell Loggains going from clipboard holder at Arkansas to NFL OC in 10 years is a pretty good feat as well.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Spongebob on January 02, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
Dowell Loggains going from clipboard holder at Arkansas to NFL OC in 10 years is a pretty good feat as well.

He did have the advantage of learning under the master,
HDN.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 02, 2014, 04:39:31 PM
Dowell Loggains going from clipboard holder at Arkansas to NFL OC in 10 years is a pretty good feat as well.

And his dream job is the U of A job, as he's made that well known, even above an NFL job.

That can't be a bad thing - it'd be nice to have several worthy candidates who have us as their dream job, in the event it ever comes up, so we don't have to have JLS coach us again.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on January 02, 2014, 04:48:20 PM
And his dream job is the U of A job, as he's made that well known, even above an NFL job.

That can't be a bad thing - it'd be nice to have several worthy candidates who have us as their dream job, in the event it ever comes up, so we don't have to have JLS coach us again.

JLS was a victim of Petrino's poor recruiting and the chaos left behind after he forced Jeff Long to fire him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: RPL on January 02, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Wait, we already passed on a Cleveland Browns coach once, didn't we?

Wasn't he also from Springdale and had house or land for a house there?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: oddi on January 02, 2014, 04:53:41 PM
JLS was a victim of Petrino's poor recruiting and the chaos left behind after he forced Jeff Long to fire him.

Button pusher.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on January 02, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
Wasn't he also from Springdale and had house or land for a house there?

no, i think he broke his arm on a waterslide or something.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Splurge on January 02, 2014, 04:57:49 PM
Wasn't he also from Springdale and had house or land for a house there?

He no longer does.  He had bought it because his son was going to play QB in Fayetteville and he wanted to be closer to him.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 02, 2014, 04:58:53 PM
Wasn't he also from Springdale and had house or land for a house there?


Paul Brown was from Springdale?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: big_pig on January 02, 2014, 05:06:28 PM

Paul Brown was from Springdale?


Troy Aikman was from Cleveland?
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on January 03, 2014, 04:05:01 PM
Al Golden to Pedo State
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Tanny Bogus on January 03, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
Apparently Briles and Mora have said that they are not interested in the Texas job.  Who else other than Gruden would make their fans happy?  I figured one or both of those guys (and Patterson at TCU) would have been interested.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Count Porkula on January 03, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
Apparently Briles and Mora have said that they are not interested in the Texas job.  Who else other than Gruden would make their fans happy?  I figured one or both of those guys (and Patterson at TCU) would have been interested.

Texas is learning that having more money than most small countries doesn't amount to shit anymore.  People don't want to put up with the 24/7 magnifying glass and sucking up to all the tea party folks down there.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: HughJasole on January 03, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
Apparently Briles and Mora have said that they are not interested in the Texas job.  Who else other than Gruden would make their fans happy?  I figured one or both of those guys (and Patterson at TCU) would have been interested.

Chip Brown says it's gonna come down to James Franklin or Charlie Strong, with an outside shot at Jimbo Fisher.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 03, 2014, 06:41:03 PM
Chip Brown says it's gonna come down to James Franklin or Charlie Strong, with an outside shot at Jimbo Fisher.

1:52

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN9FTMleuxg



Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: notaslibro on January 03, 2014, 06:47:08 PM
Que the blazin saddles pic.


La imagen es un sheriff negro.

Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on January 03, 2014, 09:42:30 PM
no, i think he broke his arm on a waterslide or something.


No, that was Darryl McFadden.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: El Hogarado on January 03, 2014, 10:13:11 PM
247sports.com twitter says Charlie Strong to Texas is done. Makes since for Strong to leave now since Bridgewater is leaving for the NFL.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ruddy Stormwater on January 03, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
247sports.com twitter says Charlie Strong to Texas is done. Makes since sense for Strong to leave now since sense Bridgewater is leaving for the NFL.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 03, 2014, 10:29:28 PM
Strong won't go to Texas.  I hear he has too much Arkansas blood in his veins.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on January 03, 2014, 10:31:11 PM
my dreams is for this texxass search to continue the dragging of the on, then...once all have played them for raises and contract extensions, they are left with only one choice.








Hootie Dell Nutt.  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on January 03, 2014, 10:33:45 PM


You're both 1 for 2.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on January 03, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Texas beat writers are also twattering that it's Strong.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: subliznime on January 03, 2014, 10:47:48 PM
And his dream job is the U of A job, as he's made that well known, even above an NFL job.

That can't be a bad thing - it'd be nice to have several worthy candidates who have us as their dream job, in the event it ever comes up, so we don't have to have JLS coach us again.
So you are planning for failure ? Sounds like a great way to live your life. I know you hate bielema and all but you just can't look at any bright side can you? And why? That is the same reason that people use depression as a way to excuse themselves through life. Be happy dude. It's way more fun.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: libertyhog on January 03, 2014, 10:49:37 PM
So.  Strong to Texas.

Petrino to Louisville?   


Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on January 03, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
So.  Strong to Texas.

Petrino to Louisville?

cue Lion King "circle of life" intro....
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on January 03, 2014, 10:54:41 PM
my dreams is for this texxass search to continue the dragging of the on, then...once all have played them for raises and contract extensions, they are left with only one choice.








Hootie Dell Nutt.  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

This dream brought to you by Four Loko and sherm. Lots and lots of sherm*.


*Seriously folks, so much sherm, this man should be in a coma.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Nolapigz on January 03, 2014, 10:55:54 PM
Petrino to Miami would be perfect.  Back to the Future, gangsta style.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: subliznime on January 03, 2014, 11:01:48 PM
my dreams is for this texxass search to continue the dragging of the on, then...once all have played them for raises and contract extensions, they are left with only one choice.








Hootie Dell Nutt.  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shit, they will hire bob Davie before it's all said and done.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Zoso on January 03, 2014, 11:08:53 PM
Petrino to Miami would be perfect.  Back to the Future, gangsta style.

1.21 Niggawatts!


noracist
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on January 03, 2014, 11:10:52 PM
Strong to Texas surprises me.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 03, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Strong to Texas surprises me.

As far as anyone can tell, he's the only guy that was willing to meet and interview.

Fisher, Mora, and Briles wouldn't.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: acater on January 03, 2014, 11:24:16 PM
As far as anyone can tell, he's the only guy that was willing to meet and interview.

I have a hard time believing that.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: bigghurtt on January 03, 2014, 11:28:10 PM
I'll do you one better - I bet they don't hire a coach as good, accomplished, or highly regarded as Bret Bielema.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Loma on January 03, 2014, 11:35:45 PM
Strong @ Texas is not gonna work out.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 03, 2014, 11:37:53 PM
So you are planning for failure ? Sounds like a great way to live your life. I know you hate bielema and all but you just can't look at any bright side can you? And why? That is the same reason that people use depression as a way to excuse themselves through life. Be happy dude. It's way more fun.

How you got that out of what I said is mystifying.

Well, maybe not.  Like I stated earlier, you may not want to be the poster child for smoking weed or it may never get legalized.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 03, 2014, 11:39:01 PM
I have a hard time believing that.

Why?  If you're at a place like FSU or UCLA and you interview and don't get the job, what does that do to your standing at your current university?

Tuberville wouldn't interview here either, so we ended up with Nutt.

I don't think Strong's a good fit for them.  They don't need a recruiter, they need an evaluator.  They need the next Teddy Bridgewater, they come out of Texas all the time and UT keeps missing them.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on January 04, 2014, 12:03:52 AM
Strong to Texas surprises me.

Kevin Sumlin's ass just puckered... a little bit.  There goes his "swag" advantage in recruiting.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Po Pimp on January 04, 2014, 01:15:08 AM
I don't think Strong's a good fit for them.  They don't need a recruiter, they need an evaluator.  They need the next Teddy Bridgewater, they come out of Texas all the time and UT keeps missing them.

Damn, I thought Strong and his staff were the ones that evaluated Bridgewater.  Confusing post is confusing.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Ty Webb on January 04, 2014, 01:26:54 AM
Damn, I thought Strong and his staff were the ones that evaluated Bridgewater.  Confusing post is confusing.
They evaluated Teddy so good that in his frosh year he asked to play WR if he wasnt gonna be a QB.
Title: Re: Coaching Hot Seat & Changes
Post by: Razor B on