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Title: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 11, 2014, 09:46:39 PM
I can't say I was wowed by the Smith hire.  I wasn't overly impressed but Bielema has been good at hiring assistants and figured he must be a schemer.

The improvement in our defensive play has been nothing short of incredible.  Our schemes and preparation against Tech, aTm, and Bama were really hard to find anything wrong with.  Our defense gave up plays late against aTm but I don't think it was scheme, it was giving too many opportunities to a team with elite receivers.

Clay Jennings has to be a big part of that.  Our DBs have never played this aggressively, swatting balls, being in position, not blowing assignments, etc.  This is the biggest turnaround in a position group I've seen in a year ever.  We had no LBs when we got here and Spaight and Ellis are both very solid and I think Shannon has done a solid job with the unit, especially given lack of depth.

Segrest was the hire I was most critical of.  Our DL dominated Bama's OL tonight.  They have been very hard to run on this season.  I feel a lot better about that hire now.

That said, I feel bad for the players and coaches.  They did well enough to win every game we've played except for Auburn.  The defense played more than well enough to win the last 2.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Snortingred1 on October 11, 2014, 09:49:05 PM
Amazing what he's doing with freshmen and sophomores.  Everyone is contributing.  Everyone is actually playing the schemes.  I couldn't be more impressed.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hit_that_line on October 11, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
He's definitely maximizing his talent. Outside of Philon who is probably out for the year, we've got no pure pass rusher. Flowers is more of a set the edge kind of guy. If Ellis is out a while and we shut down UGA I will definitely be a believer.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on October 11, 2014, 09:53:48 PM
I'm drinking the kool aid.  He has this team playing like a team.  I don't look at them and automatically go "man, if only ______ _____ doesn't get us beat tonight"
There is some talent on This team, but coaching is obvious.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Po Pimp on October 11, 2014, 09:55:18 PM
Agreed.  The improvement in defense has been remarkable.  Take away a couple of slips against the Aggies late and I have no problem with the way our D has played since Auburn.  I no longer shit my pants when the D takes the field, hell I actually look forward to it now.

If someone could teach the guys on defense to catch an interception that hits them in the hands then that would be great.  Other than that, no complaints.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hit_that_line on October 11, 2014, 09:56:43 PM
We need an OC. If you are gonna be a game manager type like CBB who doesn't specialize in anything, you need rock star coordinators. Our offensive staff outside of Pittman is god awful.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Snortingred1 on October 11, 2014, 09:57:43 PM
Agreed.  The improvement in defense has been remarkable.  Take away a couple of slips against the Aggies late and I have no problem with the way our D has played since Auburn.  I no longer shit my pants when the D takes the field, hell I actually look forward to it now.

If someone could teach the guys on defense to catch an interception that hits them in the hands then that would be great.  Other than that, no complaints.
If they could catch, they would be wr's, not db's.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HoneyBakedPiglet on October 11, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
Per ESPN:


Alabama had seven 3-and-out drives Saturday against Arkansas, its most under Nick Saban. The Crimson Tide had five total such drives in their first five games of the season.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Mike Slive on October 11, 2014, 10:16:09 PM
Per ESPN:


Alabama had seven 3-and-out drives Saturday against Arkansas, its most under Nick Saban. The Crimson Tide had five total such drives in their first five games of the season.

I was going to start a new thread for Kiffin but I guess this will work. Does he keep his job after this year?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 11, 2014, 10:22:02 PM
Per ESPN:


Alabama had seven 3-and-out drives Saturday against Arkansas, its most under Nick Saban. The Crimson Tide had five total such drives in their first five games of the season.

They do NOT like 3rd and long.  We kept getting in it over and over by hitting them for losses and no gains when they tried to run.

They had a great plan to contain Cooper.  2 catches for 22 yds.  He was doubled every time I saw him.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hit_that_line on October 11, 2014, 10:24:48 PM
They do NOT like 3rd and long.  We kept getting in it over and over by hitting them for losses and no gains when they tried to run.

They had a great plan to contain Cooper.  2 catches for 22 yds.  He was doubled every time I saw him.
We basically had two guys lined up within 5 yards of him. Never seen anything like it. Toliver would be presse tight then turner would be shaded inside about five yards behind him. We probably gave the rest of the west the blue print. With Moo U's DL I think they'll beat the fuck out of them.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on October 11, 2014, 10:26:47 PM
We probably gave the rest of the west the blue print.

So now we've given blueprints for both A&M and Bama.  Except, the last portion of the blueprint is never drawn.  A 75% blueprint.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Hogustus on October 11, 2014, 10:32:48 PM
If they could catch, they would be wr's, not db's.
So our WRs are really just DBs playing wideout?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 11, 2014, 10:35:56 PM
So our WRs are really just DBs playing wideout?

How many drops do we have? 

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 12, 2014, 12:06:49 AM
He's definitely maximizing his talent. Outside of Philon who is probably out for the year, we've got no pure pass rusher. Flowers is more of a set the edge kind of guy. If Ellis is out a while and we shut down UGA I will definitely be a believer.

Not sure about setting the edge, but Flowers is on pace for an All-American type year.


The biggest improvement I've seen in our defense is corners who can tackle.  That's why Bama is always so good, and it's made a huge difference in the defense.


And I hear a lot about "schemes", but Ellis said this week the main reason the defense is playing better is Smith took away almost all the schemes.  Very simplified defense.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 12, 2014, 12:10:12 AM
Not sure about setting the edge, but Flowers is on pace for an All-American type year.


The biggest improvement I've seen in our defense is corners who can tackle.  That's why Bama is always so good, and it's made a huge difference in the defense.


And I hear a lot about "schemes", but Ellis said this week the main reason the defense is playing better is Smith took away almost all the schemes.  Very simplified defense.

I know that dropping back 9 into coverage against Tech was genius and rattled the hell out of their QB.

Our scheme to stop Bama tonight, to commit to the run and double Cooper, was likewise pretty brilliant.

Maybe "scheme" isn't the right term and "gameplan" is more appropriate but we seem to have a plan on how to attack our opponents' strengths and it's working.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on October 12, 2014, 02:02:32 AM
I know that dropping back 9 into coverage against Tech was genius and rattled the Starkville out of their QB.

Our scheme to stop Bama tonight, to commit to the run and double Cooper, was likewise pretty brilliant.

Maybe "scheme" isn't the right term and "gameplan" is more appropriate but we seem to have a plan on how to attack our opponents' strengths and it's working.

Scheme or gameplan, our defense played a rock solid game tonight. Best defensive game in my memory against a top flight team.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on October 12, 2014, 08:35:05 AM
We need an OC. If you are gonna be a game manager type like CBB who doesn't specialize in anything, you need rock star coordinators. Our offensive staff outside of Pittman is god awful.

Wrong thread fuck stick.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: BlackHawgDown on October 12, 2014, 12:24:51 PM
I can't say I was wowed by the Smith hire.  I wasn't overly impressed but Bielema has been good at hiring assistants and figured he must be a schemer.

The improvement in our defensive play has been nothing short of incredible.  Our schemes and preparation against Tech, aTm, and Bama were really hard to find anything wrong with.  Our defense gave up plays late against aTm but I don't think it was scheme, it was giving too many opportunities to a team with elite receivers.

Clay Jennings has to be a big part of that.  Our DBs have never played this aggressively, swatting balls, being in position, not blowing assignments, etc.  This is the biggest turnaround in a position group I've seen in a year ever.  We had no LBs when we got here and Spaight and Ellis are both very solid and I think Shannon has done a solid job with the unit, especially given lack of depth.

Segrest was the hire I was most critical of.  Our DL dominated Bama's OL tonight.  They have been very hard to run on this season.  I feel a lot better about that hire now.

That said, I feel bad for the players and coaches.  They did well enough to win every game we've played except for Auburn.  The defense played more than well enough to win the last 2.

Smith is the only reason we haven't been blown out the past two games
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on October 12, 2014, 01:17:02 PM
Smith is the only reason we haven't been blown out the past two games

It's nice that the DC gets all of this credit because his players executed his game plan well and/or avoided costly mistakes (for the most part).  But the OC/HC?  They've "put the players in a position to win, it's on the players from then on." So basically, all of the credit and none of the blame.  i know people don't REALLY feel this way, but we definitely need to improve the talent of our offensive coaching staff.  Chaney and Smith, for sure, are 2 guys that haven't gotten enough results with their position played.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Sliver72 on October 12, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
The last time I saw the defense for The Hogs come as close to how they've been playing was BP's last bowl game at Arkansas.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: razor9 on October 12, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UQ6mmUVb.jpg)



 :worship:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on October 12, 2014, 05:43:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UQ6mmUVb.jpg)



 :worship:

Story?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: bigghurtt on October 12, 2014, 06:58:31 PM

Story?

Once upon a time, big fat titties, and they all lived happily ever after.

The End
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Sliver72 on October 14, 2014, 07:52:21 AM
Once upon a time, big fat titties, and they all lived happily ever after.

The End
Why do we have the greatest fanbase in college football? Who cares why, because big fat titties. Like the man said.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: MDEM on October 14, 2014, 09:18:37 AM
We need an OC. If you are gonna be a game manager type like CBB who doesn't specialize in anything, you need rock star coordinators. Our offensive staff outside of Pittman is god awful.

(http://i.imgur.com/rxtvQg0.gif)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Mike Slive on November 16, 2014, 08:39:25 AM
Pay that man his monies!
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Mike Slive on November 16, 2014, 08:42:35 AM
Every week, I've wondered how we will stop some of the best players in the country and every fucking week, this guy delivers the recipe. Unreal.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on November 16, 2014, 09:02:14 AM
Let's do a pay Robb Smith whatever he wants thread
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Stephen Hawging on November 16, 2014, 09:19:22 AM
He needs a bonus equal to the Petrions APR payout.  It needs to be deposited in his account within 15 days.  He needs his own chartered jet. 


We finally get a game where the offense allowed the D some breathing room with some good long timely drives.  Shows what smith can do with a reasonably fresh D.  We should be a dominant force consistently as we build more depth. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Sliver72 on November 16, 2014, 09:25:41 AM
He needs a bonus equal to the Petrions APR payout.  It needs to be deposited in his account within 15 days.  He needs his own chartered jet. 


We finally get a game where the offense allowed the D some breathing room with some good long timely drives.  Shows what smith can do with a reasonably fresh D.  We should be a dominant force consistently as we build more depth.
When we get some depth built up, we are going to crush some motherfucking souls. Send it up there. Mark it down..what the fuck ever. The day is coming, friends.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: PorkRyan on November 16, 2014, 09:39:40 AM
I read that Bama and LSU rushed 64 times for 100 yards against us this year.  If that is accurate, holy shit. Pay that man 2x his monies. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: VegasHog on November 16, 2014, 09:47:11 AM
I read that Bama and LSU rushed 64 times for 100 yards against us this year.  If that is accurate, holy shit. Pay that man 2x his monies. 

robb "who the fuck is that" smith
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on November 16, 2014, 09:57:21 AM
Bama had 66 yards
LSU had 36 yards

According to ESPN.

So round it out to 100 yards
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on November 16, 2014, 11:52:14 AM
It can't hurt that Randy Shannon and Bert is also on the staff, not sure Robb Smith is the only one deserving of credit. Clearly the defense has made great strides and we still lack talent and speed in the back end, but have managed to overcome those issues with better coverage and tackling. We have DBs that arrive willing to hit, in years past our guys would piss down their legs. Collins for example to me doesn't look half as good as he plays. Lsu by all rights had far better talent and speed but their defense just looked lost at times last night.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Boared Cynic on November 16, 2014, 11:59:55 AM
All of our defensive coaches are doing an outstanding job. All our defensive units look well coached and energetic.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 16, 2014, 12:06:34 PM
Bama had 66 yards
LSU had 36 yards

According to ESPN.

So round it out to 100 yards

And I believe negative first half yardage.


When we get some depth built up, we are going to crush some motherfucking souls. Send it up there. Mark it down..what the frick ever. The day is coming, friends.

Um, we have a lot of depth right now.  I'm not sure how much more you want.

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Sliver72 on November 16, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
And I believe negative first half yardage.


Um, we have a lot of depth right now.  I'm not sure how much more you want.
If we had the proper depth, we would have won a couple of those that we lost...going away. Not just winning, but dominating. But sure, whatever you say.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on November 16, 2014, 12:12:48 PM
And I believe negative first half yardage.


Um, we have a lot of depth right now.  I'm not sure how much more you want.



Yes it was like -4 to 129.

Hilarious.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on November 16, 2014, 12:51:14 PM
If we had the proper depth, we would have won a couple of those that we lost...going away. Not just winning, but dominating. But sure, whatever you say.

Agree.  When you consistently give way in the 4th quarter the way we have, it's a depth issue.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on November 16, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
Agree.  When you consistently give way in the 4th quarter the way we have, it's a depth issue.
 

We have to develop a better oline so we can run the ball with more consistency and run the clock more in the 4th when we have a lead.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Sliver72 on November 16, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
 

We have to develop a better oline so we can run the ball with more consistency and run the clock more in the 4th when we have a lead.
Fresh horses wouldn't hurt one bit, though, either. Not that I'm disagreeing with you. I love the fact that we have the backs we do.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on November 16, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
Fresh horses wouldn't hurt one bit, though, either. Not that I'm disagreeing with you. I love the fact that we have the backs we do.
 

I also think we need a playmaker at WR that can stretch the field and be a threat to house it any time he touches the ball. Improvement in our return game and special teams in general would greatly help also.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: TexZilla on November 16, 2014, 04:33:37 PM
 

We have to develop a better oline so we can run the ball with more consistency and run the clock more in the 4th when we have a lead.

I agree we need to be able to pound the ball in the fourth, and I know our line will get deeper and play better.  What we need is a QB that presents enough of a threat that defenses can't cheat and overplay the run.  Until that happens ground game will be challenged.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on November 16, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
 

I also think we need a playmaker at WR that can stretch the field and be a threat to house it any time he touches the ball. Improvement in our return game and special teams in general would greatly help also.

I think Cornelius can develop into this guy.  He seems pretty sure-handed, to boot.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 16, 2014, 05:53:46 PM
If we had the proper depth, we would have won a couple of those that we lost...going away. Not just winning, but dominating. But sure, whatever you say.


Agree.  When you consistently give way in the 4th quarter the way we have, it's a depth issue.

We have depth on defense.  A supposed lack of depth on defense is not what cost us the AL game where they had just a couple first downs the whole 4th quarter or the MSU game that we lost on a complete defensive breakdown.

If anything, these games were lost on lack of offense and possibly oline depth.  But defensive depth is definitely not the problem.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: capnthog on November 16, 2014, 06:25:56 PM
I would be curious to know how many players have played on defense this year.  I have had to go to the roster numerous times to find out who number so and so is.

We have depth.  And we have players coming.  I like Rob, hell, he can come over and fuck my sister.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: LashHog on November 16, 2014, 06:32:43 PM
There was talk in the offseason that part of the problem last year was that Ash butted heads with Shannon some and was stubborn in some things he wanted to do. I wrote that off as the people who are convinced Shannon is the greatest defensive coach to ever stand on a sideline just making assumptions.

But this defense is so much better than last year, and I don't feel like Smith has ever had a defense like this before. I don't remember Rutgers defenses having that reputation, but maybe they did.

It just makes me curious how much is just smith or just not having Ash. Either way, it is working and they should pay him whatever he wants to stay here.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on November 16, 2014, 06:37:10 PM
 

I also think we need a playmaker at WR that can stretch the field and be a threat to house it any time he touches the ball. Improvement in our return game and special teams in general would greatly help also.

We definitely need a playmaker.  It's amazing how we've been able to stay in games without one.  Once we recruit one of these electrifying athletes, he'll be used early and often.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on November 16, 2014, 06:43:36 PM
There was talk in the offseason that part of the problem last year was that Ash butted heads with Shannon some and was stubborn in some things he wanted to do. I wrote that off as the people who are convinced Shannon is the greatest defensive coach to ever stand on a sideline just making assumptions.

But this defense is so much better than last year, and I don't feel like Smith has ever had a defense like this before. I don't remember Rutgers defenses having that reputation, but maybe they did.

It just makes me curious how much is just smith or just not having Ash. Either way, it is working and they should pay him whatever he wants to stay here.
 

Rutgers had some good defenses when Schiano was there. Smith and Shannon should be on the same page since they both have years of experience with this defensive system. One thing I see is that we have way less blown assignments. The difference in our CB's from last season is remarkable. We just have more guys in position to make plays.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on November 17, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
man crush

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on November 19, 2014, 09:39:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UQ6mmUVb.jpg)

Gotta bump these back up

 :worship:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on November 23, 2014, 10:37:12 PM
Time to pay this man.

Clay Jennings, the DB coach, as well.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Red Death on November 26, 2014, 03:05:48 PM
DAMN IT!!!  Robb Smith nominared for Broyles award.  Shouldn't we be keeping him a secret?

http://www.broylesaward.com/press-releases/2014/11/26/nominees-announced-for-2014-broyles-award (http://www.broylesaward.com/press-releases/2014/11/26/nominees-announced-for-2014-broyles-award)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on November 26, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
DAMN IT!!!  Robb Smith nominared for Broyles award.  Shouldn't we be keeping him a secret?

http://www.broylesaward.com/press-releases/2014/11/26/nominees-announced-for-2014-broyles-award (http://www.broylesaward.com/press-releases/2014/11/26/nominees-announced-for-2014-broyles-award)

A lot of interesting names on that list.  The biggest surprise to me was James Shibest.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Mike Slive on November 26, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
I'll just put this here.

I really like having a CEO type coach who isn't afraid to make changes when he thinks we can do better. The DC change is the biggest improvement on the team and Coach should get a lot of credit for that.

It's seems great having a guy like Gus, Bobby, Briles, ect... but that is almost always a one sided coin. The OC head coach types seem to never have a good defense. I'm not sure of the reason because anyone and everyone exclaims, if they only had a decent defense. I like our balance and believe it allows us to play more consistent.



Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: TexZilla on November 26, 2014, 04:51:09 PM
DAMN IT!!!  Robb Smith nominared for Broyles award.  Shouldn't we be keeping him a secret?

http://www.broylesaward.com/press-releases/2014/11/26/nominees-announced-for-2014-broyles-award (http://www.broylesaward.com/press-releases/2014/11/26/nominees-announced-for-2014-broyles-award)

If I were Bret, I'd set him up with a blonde and a nice used Harley.  He could then be contrite and sign a contract with a fat raise.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on November 26, 2014, 05:35:37 PM
Id like to win more than two sec games before crowning anybody.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Mike Slive on November 26, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
Id like to win more than two sec games before crowning anybody.

Good point but our defense didn't just show up the last 2 games.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on November 26, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
A lot of interesting names on that list.  The biggest surprise to me was James Shibest.

Well, wasn't he a teammate of Bazzel's, at least for one year?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 29, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
PAY

THE

FUCKING

MAN

NOW!!!!
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DaveIsNotMyName on December 29, 2014, 11:24:21 PM
You guys are welcome, lol.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 29, 2014, 11:29:09 PM
You guys are welcome, lol.

Congrats on your bowl win.  Was pulling for you guys.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Passed on December 29, 2014, 11:51:33 PM

PAY

THE

FUCKING

MAN

NOW!!!!


This right motherfucking now!
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: LashHog on December 30, 2014, 01:05:36 AM
 :notexas:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 30, 2014, 01:11:43 AM
Florida's coming after Shannon as LBs coach.  They hired Miss St's DC already.

That man needs his paycheck, too.  Spaight and Ellis were superb this year.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Vito Porkleone on December 30, 2014, 01:37:41 AM
Surprised no one went here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jUBbCgMWmE
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: TC on December 30, 2014, 01:56:56 AM
Florida's coming after Shannon as LBs coach. They hired Miss St's DC already.

That man needs his paycheck, too.  Spaight and Ellis were superb this year.

Really?  Why would Shannon leave for anything less than a DC or HC spot?  He'd have the DC spot here if he wants if Smith leaves.  Of the 2 though, I'll be happily surprised come fall if they're both still on staff.  For Shannon I just don't see him leaving us to go work for Ms St's DC as a LB Coach in a new staff rebuild.

But yeah, Long for real needs to be throwing money around like he just signed a new Cola contract. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on December 30, 2014, 07:53:33 AM
Great job.  7 points and their lone TD was on an obvious outside hold.  That's 2tds or less in final 5 games?  And against top 5 teams in west plus east champ?  Needs muschamp type money.


Don't read this thread Robb.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 09:08:09 AM
We need to step it up with coordinator salaries.  Teams that want to win are going big.  Auburn just paid a coordinator 1.8 million a year.  Michigan just made its head coach the highest paid person in football on any level.  THAT is what it takes to win.

We make $40 million a year in television revenue solely because of football.  $15 million of that or so needs to be earmarked for salaries.  Coordinators, if you are happy with them, need to make at least $1 million a year.  Arkansas should not lose a coordinator to another Big 5 school.  We should only lose them if they get a HC job.  And, then we need to pay them well enough that they only leave for a really good HC job at that.

If Robb Smith isn't making at least (probably more) $750k in the next year or so, we will lose him.  There isn't a doubt in my mind.  It might seem stupid, hard to live with, but it is going to take big money to keep winning staffs together for the time being.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 30, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
We need to step it up with coordinator salaries.  Teams that want to win are going big.  Auburn just paid a coordinator 1.8 million a year. Michigan just made its head coach the highest paid person in football on any level.  THAT is what it takes to win.

We make $40 million a year in television revenue solely because of football.  $15 million of that or so needs to be earmarked for salaries.  Coordinators, if you are happy with them, need to make at least $1 million a year.  Arkansas should not lose a coordinator to another Big 5 school.  We should only lose them if they get a HC job.  And, then we need to pay them well enough that they only leave for a really good HC job at that.

If Robb Smith isn't making at least (probably more) $750k in the next year or so, we will lose him.  There isn't a doubt in my mind.  It might seem stupid, hard to live with, but it is going to take big money to keep winning staffs together for the time being.

Harbaugh is making $5 mil./yr. at Michigan which puts him in the top 6 for college but he isn't in the top 10 for the NFL. That being said, don't let facts get in the way of your nonsensical bullshit.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HogHead McCormick on December 30, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
Harbaugh's salary was initially reported as 8 mill.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: cotte on December 30, 2014, 12:32:47 PM
We need to step it up with coordinator salaries.  Teams that want to win are going big.  Auburn just paid a coordinator 1.8 million a year.  Michigan just made its head coach the highest paid person in football on any level.  THAT is what it takes to win.

We make $40 million a year in television revenue solely because of football.  $15 million of that or so needs to be earmarked for salaries.  Coordinators, if you are happy with them, need to make at least $1 million a year.  Arkansas should not lose a coordinator to another Big 5 school.  We should only lose them if they get a HC job.  And, then we need to pay them well enough that they only leave for a really good HC job at that.

If Robb Smith isn't making at least (probably more) $750k in the next year or so, we will lose him.  There isn't a doubt in my mind.  It might seem stupid, hard to live with, but it is going to take big money to keep winning staffs together for the time being.

You is so dumb.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 01:04:45 PM
Harbaugh is making $5 mil./yr. at Michigan which puts him in the top 6 for college but he isn't in the top 10 for the NFL. That being said, don't let facts get in the way of your nonsensical bullshit.

When I wrote that it was being reported as $8 million, dumbass.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 01:06:04 PM
You is so dumb.

What is dumb about that, cockgobbler?  If you are going to have top notch coordinators, you are going to have to pay top notch salaries.  And in case you haven't noticed, $500k a year is no longer up to par with top notch coordinator salaries.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on December 30, 2014, 01:29:52 PM
When I wrote that it was being reported as $8 million, dumbass.

The first numbers tossed around in rumors are almost always way over blown.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 01:36:05 PM
The first numbers tossed around in rumors are almost always way over blown.

Fine, so be it, but we still need to pay a guy like Robb Smith more than he is making now or someone else will.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 30, 2014, 01:43:50 PM
The first numbers tossed around in rumors are almost always way over blown.

It may be $8 million a year with $3 million going to assistant pay. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on December 30, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
Fine, so be it, but we still need to pay a guy like Robb Smith more than he is making now or someone else will.

We have some highly desirable assistants on the defensive staff, there is no doubt and some if not all will get paid. Smith is among the lesser that I worry about because he's still a little bit unknown. He's not all the sudden going to get Will Muschamp type of money, probably not TOP 15 among DC's. Our db's coach and Randy Shannon are about as important as Smith (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school). Both of those guys are developing a reputation for being "fixers" in addition to being excellent recruiters, which comes at a premium.

It may be $8 million a year with $3 million going to assistant pay. 

I guess that would make sense.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 30, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
We have some highly desirable assistants on the defensive staff, there is no doubt and some if not all will get paid. Smith is among the lesser that I worry about because he's still a little bit unknown. He's not all the sudden going to get Will Muschamp type of money, probably not TOP 15 among DC's. Our db's coach and Randy Shannon are about as important as Smith (also, I'm not allowed within like 50 yards of any school). Both of those guys are developing a reputation for being "fixers" in addition to being excellent recruiters, which comes at a premium.

I guess that would make sense.

I worry about the Aggies a little bit with Smith.  He has no ties there, but they are throwing huge money around at guys like Muschamp, Foster and Chavis.  The first two guys just got raises, and the Aggies actually think they are getting Chavis and Smith is on their B list. 

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Smith goes up from $550K to $750-850K this year.  At his current income he's going to be a target for lots of teams.  Better to get rid of that and create some stability.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 02:49:15 PM
The guy took our defense from being a joke to being the best one on the Hill since probably the 60s or 70s.  At some point pride is going to kick in as he sees guys who have accomplished far less get paid more.  He deserves a raise and we need to give him one if we want to keep him.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 30, 2014, 04:04:07 PM
When I wrote that it was being reported as $8 million, dumbass.

It was rumored to be $8 mil. Just because your mental midget ass believes it, doesn't make it true. If that is all it took your mother would not be the cum guzzling whore we all know her to be.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on December 30, 2014, 04:45:41 PM
It was rumored to be $8 mil. Just because your mental midget ass believes it, doesn't make it true. If that is all it took your mother would not be the cum guzzling whore we all know her to be.

(http://www.woopig.net/images/index.php?dir=&file=shocked-guys.gif)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 05:01:07 PM
It was rumored to be $8 mil. Just because your mental midget ass believes it, doesn't make it true. If that is all it took your mother would not be the cum guzzling whore we all know her to be.

If you're going to call my mother a cum guzzling whore, at least have it make sense.  A complete non sequitur like that just wastes a fine insult of one's mother. 

I'll give you an example.  "It was rumored to be an $8 million dollar contract, but of course, it wasn't.  Nevertheless, you believed it because you're as big a dumbass as your mother is a cum guzzling whore." 

But as that your cockgobbling ass is eaten up with the dumbass, you messed it all up.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Lurk on December 30, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
If you're going to call my mother a cum guzzling whore, at least have it make sense.  A complete non sequitur like just waste a fine insult of one's mother. 

I'll give you an example.  "It was rumored to be an $8 million dollar contract, but of course, it wasn't.  Nevertheless, you believed it because you're as big a dumbass as your mother is a cum guzzling whore." 

But as that your cockgobbling ass is eaten up with the dumbass, you messed it all up.
You kind of messed up your rebuttal also.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on December 30, 2014, 05:22:24 PM
You kind of messed up your rebuttal also.

Damned Ipad.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 31, 2014, 07:39:18 AM
Damned Ipad.

(http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/attachments/how_to_slit_wrist-gif.82901/)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DrMongoose on December 31, 2014, 09:41:44 AM
Once upon a time, big fat titties, and they all lived happily ever after.

The End

this is a story that has to have pictures.  :dude2:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Buffinator on December 31, 2014, 10:42:54 AM
Have we paid him yet? I had a wet dream last night about bermuda triangles 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 01, 2015, 01:03:23 AM
Have we paid him yet? I had a wet dream last night about bermuda triangles

Supposedly his wife tweeted about how much they love being here and being a part of the Razorback family, etc.  At least that's encouraging.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 01, 2015, 01:18:30 AM
Just for kicks, a look at our 2014 defense vs 2013:

8th nationally in scoring defense at 19.2 PPG (4th in SEC) ------ 89th nationally (12th in SEC)
13th nationally in total defense at 323 YPG (5th in SEC) ----- 76th nationally (8th in SEC)
12th nationally in rushing defense at 114 YPG (2nd in SEC) ----- 79th nationally (11th in SEC)
40th nationally in pass defense at 209 YPG (7th in SEC) ----- 73rd nationally (11th in SEC)
29th nationally in turnovers forced (tied for 3rd in SEC) -----  113th in turnovers forced (14th in SEC)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: VegasHog on January 01, 2015, 08:03:25 AM
considering our schedule this year, 13th in total defense is astounding
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Sliver72 on January 02, 2015, 12:56:11 PM
considering our schedule this year, 13th in total defense is astounding
Dude, our D hit some fuckers in the mouf pretty hard this season. Tough sons of bitches, too. Not no easy cupcake motherfuckers. That magnificent Aussie bastard we have punting is the amplifier to the defense's electric guitar. I wish he got more credit than he does. Our punt game is what helped our D be as awesome as it was.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Boared Cynic on January 02, 2015, 12:57:54 PM
Imagine the numbers with better Auburn and UGA games. Hell, imagine if the whole team played the earlier part of the season like they played the last part of the season.  :dude2:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 02, 2015, 01:07:18 PM
Dude, our D hit some fuckers in the mouf pretty hard this season. Tough sons of bitches, too. Not no easy cupcake motherfuckers. That magnificent Aussie bastard we have punting is the amplifier to the defense's electric guitar. I wish he got more credit than he does. Our punt game is what helped our D be as awesome as it was.

Supposedly Robb Smith is known for the way he teaches tackling, and you saw a total difference in how we tackled this year (especially counting out AU and UGa).  Some guys like Gaines we thought of as soft became punishing hitters.

Oh, and I loved having Irwin-Hill, will suck to lose him.  Anybody see the photo of his family back in Australia watching the game on twitter wearing Hog gear?  I hope he gets a shot at the NFL, but not sure he got adequate hype.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on January 02, 2015, 01:10:40 PM
Imagine the numbers with better Auburn and UGA games. Hell, imagine if the whole team played the earlier part of the season like they played the last part of the season.  :dude2:

Smith said that the team didn't really turn the lights on until after the A&M game, while prepping for Bama. It was his first year and sometimes it takes a little bit for it all to click.

Even with the loss of 2/3 (at least) of the bermuda triangle, I expect us to put up similar defensive numbers next year. Not as good I don't think (hard to replace a QB disruptor like Flowers and a tackling machine like Spaight), but good enough.

This was the first year where we've had a defense that looked like it belonged in the SEC. I expect that trend to continue.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: VegasHog on January 02, 2015, 01:44:38 PM
Supposedly Robb Smith is known for the way he teaches tackling, and you saw a total difference in how we tackled this year (especially counting out AU and UGa).  Some guys like Gaines we thought of as soft became punishing hitters.

Oh, and I loved having Irwin-Hill, will suck to lose him.  Anybody see the photo of his family back in Australia watching the game on twitter wearing Hog gear?  I hope he gets a shot at the NFL, but not sure he got adequate hype.

smith preaches the rugby style of tackling. it seems to work.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: LashHog on January 02, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
Imagine the numbers with better Auburn and UGA games. Hell, imagine if the whole team played the earlier part of the season like they played the last part of the season.  :dude2:
I was thinking the other day, I wonder if it didn't hurt us some having Gurley out. I know that sounds crazy, but it seems like the focus was not on Chubb yet, he was not thought to be good enough to carry the team like Gurley had. He has since shown he is quite good, and I have a hard time believing this defense could shut down Amari Cooper and TJ Yeldon and Derrick Henry but couldn't stop Chubb.

Although, with the turnovers we gave UGA the defense never really had a chance.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: PorkRyan on January 02, 2015, 05:22:18 PM
Supposedly Robb Smith is known for the way he teaches tackling, and you saw a total difference in how we tackled this year (especially counting out AU and UGa).  Some guys like Gaines we thought of as soft became punishing hitters.



Yep.  It's very similar to the Hawk tackling that the Seahawks use. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HRC on January 02, 2015, 05:24:44 PM
Yep.  It's very similar to the Hawk tackling that the Seahawks use.

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Ty Webb on January 03, 2015, 12:34:22 AM
I was thinking the other day, I wonder if it didn't hurt us some having Gurley out. I know that sounds crazy, but it seems like the focus was not on Chubb yet, he was not thought to be good enough to carry the team like Gurley had. He has since shown he is quite good, and I have a hard time believing this defense could shut down Amari Cooper and TJ Yeldon and Derrick Henry but couldn't stop Chubb.

Although, with the turnovers we gave UGA the defense never really had a chance.
Nobody stopped Chubb. His final season rushing total was only behind Herschel at UGA with over 1,500 yards....and they've had plenty of good RBs.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 03, 2015, 12:46:34 AM
Last 5 games of the year, against teams that won 44 games, we gave up 45 points. 

#1 defense in the nation the last five games.   :wha?:

#1.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Too Big Pig on January 03, 2015, 01:10:18 AM
Last 5 games of the year, against teams that won 44 games, we gave up 45 points. 

#1 defense in the nation the last five games.   :wha?:

#1.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQkbXWwJhQ
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on January 03, 2015, 09:52:46 AM
I may post this in every thread.

FUCK EVERYBODY ELSE.

I DONT CARE ABOUT ANY TEAM NOT NAMED ARKANSAS RAZORBACKS.

I used to care if other teams won or lost because I cared how it made us look.  Now I only care about the number of wins we have.















*also, I care a little about how sweet the tears of mine enemies are.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 06, 2015, 10:07:30 AM
ESPN said $750K for 3 years, I saw $850K somewhere else.

It's supposed to have a noncompete that prevents a lateral move.  Does that mean any college DC job?  Kind of sounded like it but that would be Jeff Long breaking new ground with that kind of deal.

With just the NC game to go we are 10th in total defense, 10th in scoring defense, and 12 in rush defense.  Only other SEC team around us is Bama.

Smith did this with no 4-5 stars starting, and only 1 4-star on the 2-deep. 

4 of 7 SEC West teams are going to new DCs.  Average PPG by SEC West opponents in bowl games was 35.  Bama is even showing serious cracks defensively.  It's nice to have some confidence we are in good shape.

 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on January 06, 2015, 11:23:55 AM
Starts at 750, next year it jumps to 800 then to 850

Philon and Flowers were both 4 stars right
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Boared Cynic on January 06, 2015, 12:36:44 PM
I can say this comfortably without much homerism guilt that WE were the best defense of the latter half of 2014 in the SEC.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: rzrbkfan69 on January 06, 2015, 01:20:17 PM
Starts at 750, next year it jumps to 800 then to 850

Philon and Flowers were both 4 stars right

3 stars

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Trey-Flowers-102347

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Darius-Philon-104444
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: KSHogg on January 06, 2015, 01:28:12 PM
3 stars

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Trey-Flowers-102347

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Darius-Philon-104444

I'd take about six more of those 3* .
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on January 06, 2015, 01:43:38 PM
I'd take about six more of those 3* .

No kidding. Both played like 5 stars at times this year.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on January 06, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
Quote
If Robb Smith isn't making at least (probably more) $750k in the next year or so, we will lose him.  There isn't a doubt in my mind.  It might seem stupid, hard to live with, but it is going to take big money to keep winning staffs together for the time being.

Gee, I even picked the right number on his new contract.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HoneyBakedPiglet on January 08, 2015, 07:04:34 PM
http://www.arkansasfight.com/2015/1/8/7507993/long-form-why-robb-smiths-new-contract-is-worth-every-penny
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on October 22, 2016, 07:15:40 PM

This seems like a good time to bring this thread back.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on October 22, 2016, 07:16:43 PM
yeeeah it does
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Buffinator on October 22, 2016, 07:17:33 PM
le ouch.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HoneyBakedPiglet on October 22, 2016, 07:49:22 PM
This seems like a good time to bring this thread back.

Why? It reminds me I posted this:


http://www.arkansasfight.com/2015/1/8/7507993/long-form-why-robb-smiths-new-contract-is-worth-every-penny
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Count Porkula on October 22, 2016, 07:54:28 PM
our D line blows.  we need men.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 22, 2016, 08:00:41 PM
our D line blows.  we need men.

Excellent observation. 

Who is responsible for player personnel again?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on October 22, 2016, 08:13:09 PM
Who's bright idea was it to put the highly recruited defensive end at tackle?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on October 22, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
he has to go

it goes without saying but he's doing worse as DC than Chaney did as OC. We fired Chaney, even after 30-0 over Ole Miss and whatever the blowout score was over Texas.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 22, 2016, 08:25:01 PM
Smith can't adapt to college spread schemes, he has to go.  Defense is outcoached every game.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 22, 2016, 08:44:36 PM
Is it time to induct Flowers into our HOF?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 22, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
We need to fire

Herbert (no speed and lines get owned)
Robb Smith and his gay blade defense
That D LINE coach
The O Line coach
The linebackers coach
Whoever the scouting guru is and film study...

Then let's go to work on the compliance Dept: there is clearly some dumb motherfuckers slipping through the cracks





Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Razor B on October 22, 2016, 08:52:51 PM
The only way BB fires Robb is if BB's job is on the line, which it's not, and won't be as long as Jeff Long is here. This is an AD that went to bat to give John Pelphrey one more year. The board had to force a change due to attendance.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Barton Fink on October 22, 2016, 08:53:08 PM
Who's bright idea was it to put the highly recruited defensive end at tackle?

Yeah I don't get that. Maybe if it got him on the field more but it hasn't.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on October 22, 2016, 08:54:51 PM
we have to decide if we want to be a player or not.  If we do then we need to do like A&M and throw money at a big name who can recruit and coach at a high(er) level
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on October 22, 2016, 08:55:25 PM
Jeff Long has to go.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 22, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
The only way BB fires Robb is if BB's job is on the line, which it's not, and won't be as long as Jeff Long is here. This is an AD that went to bat to give John Pelphrey one more year. The board had to force a change due to attendance.

Maybe, but this is the same guy who fired Mike Markuson after 1 game.  I don't think he has any particular loyalty to Smith or any other underperforming assistant.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on October 22, 2016, 09:02:26 PM
Maybe, but this is the same guy who fired Mike Markuson after 1 game.  I don't think he has any particular loyalty to Smith or any other underperforming assistant.

I'm so sick of hearing about that.

Mike Markuson is a freaking retard. Smith is just in over his head. I can see Smith getting another year though I hope I'm wrong.  I thought Chaney would stay just because we blew out a terrible Texas team.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 22, 2016, 09:03:16 PM
Yeah I don't get that. Maybe if it got him on the field more but it hasn't.

He grew.  It happens all the friggin' time.  Players bulk up in the weight room and change positions.

That's the least of our problems.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on October 22, 2016, 09:05:09 PM
8 and 4 ad infinitum
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Razor B on October 22, 2016, 09:07:32 PM
Maybe, but this is the same guy who fired Mike Markuson after 1 game.  I don't think he has any particular loyalty to Smith or any other underperforming assistant.

Bret knew Robb's wife while in school. They are close family friends.  This isn't a coach that he's got no prior relationship with.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 22, 2016, 09:07:42 PM
I'm so sick of hearing about that.

Mike Markuson is a freaking retard. Smith is just in over his head. I can see Smith getting another year though I hope I'm wrong.  I thought Chaney would stay just because we blew out a terrible Texas team.

I'm trying to find reasons for hope.  Stop taking them away from me please.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: mde114 on October 22, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
8 and 4 ad infinitum

I'd take that, unfortunately that will be our high water mark under Bert.

Our only score was a 57 yard field goal. Think about how lucky we were to even get that. This is unacceptable for the money he makes and the resources at his disposal.

Someone has to go this week.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 22, 2016, 09:13:30 PM
Maybe, but this is the same guy who fired Mike Markuson after 1 game.  I don't think he has any particular loyalty to Smith or any other underperforming assistant.

He had daddy Alvarez covering his six then, who was probably the one doing the firing. I kind of think there must have been more to the story than Markuson underperforming after a couple of games. Who fires an OLine coach that quickly? That doesn't even happen in the pros.

I also think we as dark sider anti Nutt prone fans like thinking Markuson was as unqualified as we imagined him being.


I wouldn't keep leaning on this logic because after a while what looks like a line of "invited to find a job elsewhere" coaches is really a bunch of dudes smart enough to cut bait.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 22, 2016, 09:18:04 PM
Bret knew Robb's wife while in school. They are close family friends.  This isn't a coach that he's got no prior relationship with.

Business is business. 

Let Rhoads call the plays and have Smith slide into an NFL position coach job at season end without any hoopla.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Razor B on October 22, 2016, 09:18:06 PM
I'm trying to find reasons for hope.  Stop taking them away from me please.

(http://glasstire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/bob-ross-600x368.png?bdc2e0)

You can do anything you want to do. It's your world.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on October 22, 2016, 09:51:57 PM
He grew.  It happens all the friggin' time.  Players bulk up in the weight room and change positions.

That's the least of our problems.

Hardly the least of our problems. 

We need a rush end as bad as anything, and he was supposed to be a stud At the position.  Fattening him up and bending him over to put a knuckle in the dirt isn't a problem?
'C'mon man...you know better than that.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 22, 2016, 10:02:29 PM
We have about six DEs that look like Tarzan...

Our defensive tackles were "slimmed down" to get quicker up the gut. Has Johnson made a play since Philon and Flowers left?

How many yards per rush are we giving up?

Where is Randy Shannon now?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on October 22, 2016, 10:21:09 PM
To think Ryan Pulley was our best chance to score a touchdown in this game...
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on October 22, 2016, 10:24:19 PM
?

How many yards per rush are we giving up?


All of them.  😳 fucking all of them.

To think Ryan Pulley was our best chance to score a touchdown in this game...


And he showed us why he plays defense instead of receiver...
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on October 22, 2016, 10:50:32 PM
Rob Smith should be fired along with his fat ass head coach.

They're bad coaches.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 22, 2016, 10:57:50 PM
All of them.  😳 fucking all of them.

And he showed us why he plays defense instead of receiver...

2nd game in a row for Pulley.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 22, 2016, 11:02:10 PM
Hardly the least of our problems. 

We need a rush end as bad as anything, and he was supposed to be a stud At the position.  Fattening him up and bending him over to put a knuckle in the dirt isn't a problem?
'C'mon man...you know better than that.

He was 288 before spring practice even started (which would've been the end of his senior year of high school).  The position he's projected at before his senior year of high school wasn't the position he would ultimately play and tons of articles going back to his junior year suggested that.

He's quick for his size, but not quick enough to be a 300 lb DE in the SEC.


Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogfan58 on October 23, 2016, 06:37:20 AM
He was 288 before spring practice even started (which would've been the end of his senior year of high school).  The position he's projected at before his senior year of high school wasn't the position he would ultimately play and tons of articles going back to his junior year suggested that.

He's quick for his size, but not quick enough to be a 300 lb DE in the SEC.

Watching other teams in the SEC and watching ours is like watching the difference between college and pro teams. Our defense looks small, slow and doesn't hit anyone.....unless we target a WR.

Auburn, Bama, TAMU...they look like MEN. They hit, they are fast. Watching the Ole Miss-LSU game last night, both of those defenses were fast and big and just laying the wood to people. Sure, Ole Miss could not stop the run, but they are fast and can rush the passer. Do we ever?

I have no idea what Herb is going to add weight to our guys, but is he making them stronger? To me, it doesn't appear so since our OL gets pushed around and our DL does as well. He needs to join Robb on the plane out of town.

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Clark on October 23, 2016, 07:47:36 AM
57 carries for 543 yards and you lose by 50+?  That's a fireable offense for Robb Smith. Zero excuse for that shit. If you can't make them at least throw it 20-30 times to beat you then you need to gtfo of the news. 

Also: Is Herbert worth a shit? Is he taking marginal bodies and making them better or is he just got us on som kind of crossfit regiment? We look like bitches.

I like Bielema a lot. Think he's a good person to have as the figurehead. The assistants need a transformation. I'm also looking at you, Segrest and Anderson.
I'd start with firing Smith, making Rhoads the D.C.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 23, 2016, 08:05:14 AM
See I'm thinking Partridge could be lured back as DC if we paid him more than he's making as HC. Then again I guess living in Florida isn't so bad.

Offensive Line, maybe Anderson gets another year since basically none of these guys are his players. They need a "consultant" to bring Anderson along.

look at who's left lately and that's Jennings and Shannon. Everyone was convinced these two guys weren't as good as advertised but maybe that's not actually the case.

Obviously, It seems we have a lot of pieces on our defensive staff that just aren't working well together.

Offensively we suck and there is no hiding our lack of blocking above an 8th grade level. Every defense we face knows they can bring it right in our face and we won't check out of a bad play or somehow make them pay for that kind of pressure.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on October 23, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Auburn set a couple of milestones:

1.  Auburn's biggest win ever against a ranked team.

2.  Most rushing yards in an SEC game ever, and I think 7th most by an SEC team regardless of opponent.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Satch on October 23, 2016, 09:02:41 AM
I am listening to Bert's post game this morning, I am pretty sure Smith is fired.

Smith's been running on the fumes of 2014's end of season.  I hear the media talking about how amazing our D was at the end of that year.  I've always thought our opponents were playing bad ball, and we got the advantage of that.  I think the D was playing pretty good ball, but not near the level that they were getting credit for.  That Mizzou game was more of a measure of where we actually were at the end of 2014.
And it hasn't been consistently good since then.  Sometimes we look pretty good.  More than enough times we've broken down, we've been wildly out of position, or we've just looked clueless.

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogfan58 on October 23, 2016, 09:36:40 AM
9 returning starters on defense. And it has been a shit-show almost from the first game. To say we taken a step backwards is a vast understatement. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HoneyBakedPiglet on October 23, 2016, 09:57:11 AM
9 returning starters on defense. And it has been a shit-show almost from the first game. To say we taken a step backwards is a vast understatement.

I'm convinced Randy Shannon had a LOT more to do with our success than we knew. Downward trends year after year since he left.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: CrocodileHunter on October 23, 2016, 10:15:18 AM
Lolz

https://www.gofundme.com/drop-robb-smith-and-kurt-anderson-2vkhu7w?rcid=2e2b6d44992811e6b4ddbc764e05b494
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Snorts on October 23, 2016, 11:57:29 AM
The only way BB fires Robb is if BB's job is on the line, which it's not, and won't be as long as Jeff Long is here. This is an AD that went to bat to give John Pelphrey one more year. The board had to force a change due to attendance.

Not sure the many thousands of dollars we spend each year on donations, seats and the aTm game are worth it.  Like Notas says, at my age I don't like doing something unless it gives me pleasure.  So far this year Razorback Football has been a miserable pain in the ass except for the Ole Piss game.

Betcha there are several thousand people just like me and the wife.  This game was/is a watershed game.  That Team we fielded played like pansies, quit and disgraced the Razorback name.  A record-setting bad performance.  I guess what I mostly feel, and I am NOT in touch with my feelings, being an INTJ and all, is outrage.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on October 23, 2016, 12:09:00 PM
Auburn set a couple of milestones:

1.  Auburn's biggest win ever against a ranked team.

2.  Most rushing yards in an SEC game ever, and I think 7th most by an SEC team regardless of opponent.

A correction:  Auburn now has the misty rushing yards in a SEC regular-season game.  They broke the previous record we set against South Carolina in 2007.

Auburn also holds the record for most rushing yards in any SEC game, set against Missouri in the 2013 SEC Championship Game.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 23, 2016, 12:16:25 PM
A correction:  Auburn now has the misty rushing yards in a SEC regular-season game.  They broke the previous record we set against South Carolina in 2007.

Auburn also holds the record for most rushing yards in any SEC game, set against Missouri in the 2013 SEC Championship Game.

This is called taking what the defense gives you. Something we refuse to do because we want to be a power rushing team.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: mde114 on October 23, 2016, 12:18:03 PM
This is called taking what the defense gives you. Something we refuse to do because we want to be a power rushing team.

WE HAVE A FULLBACK! WE'LL KICK YOUR ASS!
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogsrunwild on October 23, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
While smith deserves all the bashing he is getting, lest we forget our awesome offense managed 3 fucking points on a 50+ yard field goal.  Something like 25 yards rushing.  Every coach on the staff deserves a swift kick in the balls for that massive failure.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on October 23, 2016, 12:22:40 PM
While smith deserves all the bashing he is getting, lest we forget our awesome offense managed 3 fucking points on a 50+ yard field goal.  Something like 25 yards rushing.  Every coach on the staff deserves a swift kick in the balls for that massive failure.

Absolutely.  3 fucking points. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Buffinator on October 23, 2016, 03:09:48 PM
I wish we'd done something like a quick passing game or some more draw plays (LOL, Auburn's linebackers wish the same) to try to offset the fact that our Offensive Line is a bunch of bleeding gashes. 

If Dan Enos doesn't have authority to dictate such things, he needs to kick Bert's door in and demand it.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: acater on October 23, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
A correction:  Auburn now has the misty rushing yards in a SEC regular-season game.  They broke the previous record we set against South Carolina in 2007.

Auburn also holds the record for most rushing yards in any SEC game, set against Missouri in the 2013 SEC Championship Game.

Fred Talley can never again be mentioned.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on October 23, 2016, 09:20:22 PM
Fred Talley can never again be mentioned.

They retired #22 by proxy.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 23, 2016, 09:31:59 PM
Watching other teams in the SEC and watching ours is like watching the difference between college and pro teams. Our defense looks small, slow and doesn't hit anyone.....unless we target a WR.

Auburn, Bama, TAMU...they look like MEN. They hit, they are fast. Watching the Ole Miss-LSU game last night, both of those defenses were fast and big and just laying the wood to people. Sure, Ole Miss could not stop the run, but they are fast and can rush the passer. Do we ever?

I have no idea what Herb is going to add weight to our guys, but is he making them stronger? To me, it doesn't appear so since our OL gets pushed around and our DL does as well. He needs to join Robb on the plane out of town.

This was a 17 year old, he's going to add weight no matter what.  A lot of that happened before he got here.

Our problem is lack of team speed on defense.  The spread running attack requires speed and tackling ability at safety, LB and DE we don't have.  Smaller, faster and more versatile is how you win these days (unless you are playing Bama). 

I think our scheme is flawed against these teams (obviously).  When you can run the same zone read option a hundred times and it always works, or run your QB at will when going 4-5 wide and we can't adjust, our defensive approach is running 5-10 yards behind.  This is the most common offense to defend now, it's not a trick you occasionally have to prepare for anymore. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 23, 2016, 09:36:00 PM
This was a 17 year old, he's going to add weight no matter what.  A lot of that happened before he got here.

Our problem is lack of team speed on defense.  The spread running attack requires speed and tackling ability at safety, LB and DE we don't have.  Smaller, faster and more versatile is how you win these days (unless you are playing Bama). 

I think our scheme is flawed against these teams (obviously).  When you can run the same zone read option a hundred times and it always works, or run your QB at will when going 4-5 wide and we can't adjust, our defensive approach is running 5-10 yards behind.  This is the most common offense to defend now, it's not a trick you occasionally have to prepare for anymore.

Great article from earlier this year on espn about how Saban switched his recruiting to speed over size after getting beaten by Auburn in 2013 and OU in the bowl that year.   Some of his coaches have stated they now have players they would have never recruited 4 years ago.

Adjustments.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 23, 2016, 09:43:27 PM
Great article from earlier this year on espn about how Saban switched his recruiting to speed over size after getting beaten by Auburn in 2013 and OU in the bowl that year.   Some of his coaches have stated they now have players they would have never recruited 4 years ago.

Adjustments.

Defense was always second fiddle for Petrino but he actually had this all figured out.  He knew how to defend teams like Auburn and the type of player to go after to stop them, even though he couldn't recruit players that were highly sought after at all.

That was 5+ years ago.

Our coaches need to catch up.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 23, 2016, 10:41:29 PM
Defense was always second fiddle for Petrino but he actually had this all figured out.  He knew how to defend teams like Auburn and the type of player to go after to stop them, even though he couldn't recruit players that were highly sought after at all.

That was 5+ years ago.

Our coaches need to catch up.

He actually recruited some pretty good defensive players while he was here.

Obviously Philon and Flowers, but Bequette (he and Flowers missed the '11 Bama game), Chris Smith, Tank Wright, Franklin, Highsmith, Nelson , etc
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Ty Webb on October 23, 2016, 11:07:28 PM
I just can't figure out how in the fuck we could stop the run last year pretty damn well (including Henry 27-95 and Fourette 19-91) and now we can't stop anyone from getting 9ypc. We have damn near the same D. What the hell is going on there?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogtimate29 on October 24, 2016, 12:00:48 AM
work ethic?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on October 24, 2016, 12:32:09 AM
He actually recruited some pretty good defensive players while he was here.

Obviously Philon and Flowers, but Bequette (he and Flowers missed the '11 Bama game), Chris Smith, Tank Wright, Franklin, Highsmith, Nelson , etc

Nelson was the only 4-star in that group FWIW.  Mostly 3s and a couple of 2s in there.  He had a knack for finding underrated players.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: FNG on October 24, 2016, 05:39:02 AM
Read it and weep (or vomit).

http://www.arkansasfight.com/2016/10/23/13374408/arkansas-auburn-advanced-stats-recap-kicker-pretty-good
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Snorts on October 24, 2016, 06:15:09 AM
Well, its Monday and no one got fired or reassigned, from what I can tell.  Rearranging those deck chairs, eh?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 24, 2016, 07:28:02 AM
Re J Nelson

I had a love hate kind of thing on him but he's exactly the type of player this defense needs.

Beyond the obvious need for speed and dudes that just know how to run to the football...we lack leverage guys. Dudes that can shed blocks and pursue with violence. We have tall lanky DEs that really don't "set the edge" on anything. They don't get under pads, they really don't scare anyone. Our Linebackers unilaterally disappear compounding the problem.

Anyway I think I'm seeing or developing a theory on why we suck at least defensively. We have a lot of dudes on defense that are done with this shit in a month. That's exactly what they act like. Their goals aren't being met and therefor the rest of this is going through the motions. You can forget about a decent bowl effort. I've seen this before.

You prepare your body all year for battle. I have no doubt it's an assault on the body. This excuse being tossed around of eight weeks straight to me holds water as a reason why we might have looked flat and ran out of gas in the second half, but these guys just didn't come to play at all. They waved the white flag against Bama and it really looked like they were saving themselves for Ole Miss. Against Auburn it just looked like a team that was emotionally checked out. The kind of thing we saw with a lame duck staff.

What did Vegas know? That question last week had me a little scared...Vegas tends to be right. Anytime I see talk of free money I generally get that nervous oh fuck feeling deep down in places we won't talk about.

Back to speed. I recall one play in particular that stood out to me. Ryan Pulley had turned to pursue Sean White. The quarterback had already ran several times around the end knowing nobody would be there. Pulley predictably took a poor angle but still recovered to pull even with White before White pulled away and eventually electing to go down...not one Razorback had gotten a hand on him. Pursuit angles be damned. We have some slow motherfuckers.

Eye discipline is typically the buzz word. I think that only comes into play if your defense was prepared at all to play football. These guys weren't.


Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: kingofdequeen on October 24, 2016, 08:18:53 AM
We have some slow motherfuckers.


fatigue.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: bogeyfree on October 24, 2016, 08:22:38 AM
Fred Talley can never again be mentioned.
I said this exact thing on the shuttle back to the airport after the game.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hit_that_line on October 24, 2016, 08:29:57 AM
Everything about this program fucking sucks. Recruiting is awful. Bert is so goddamn dumb and stubborn he will never change. He thinks he can develop two stars. JJ Watt fell into his fucking lap. Herbert is worse than decker. Look how fat and sloppy this team is. Saban works 15 hour days all offseason while Bert is partying in Cabo. Fuck them. Fuck them all. We're stuck with him and will have to endure a four win season next year. The fans deserve better.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Tonic on October 24, 2016, 08:45:28 AM
Everything about this program fucking sucks. Recruiting is awful. Bert is so goddamn dumb and stubborn he will never change. He thinks he can develop two stars. JJ Watt fell into his fucking lap. Herbert is worse than decker. Look how fat and sloppy this team is. Saban works 15 hour days all offseason while Bert is partying in Cabo. Fuck them. Fuck them all. We're stuck with him and will have to endure a four win season next year. The fans deserve better.

Miss Cleo?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hit_that_line on October 24, 2016, 08:52:26 AM
Miss Cleo?
We lose most of our "good" players and recruiting has never been worse since we joined the SEC. Get ready to get fucked.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Tonic on October 24, 2016, 09:01:31 AM
We lose most of our "good" players and recruiting has never been worse since we joined the SEC. Get ready to get fucked.

Don't be offended when I tell you that I don't trust your analysis of next year's team when we have 4 games left this season.

Saturday was an abomination but as Hog fans we should all be used to these kind of WTF games happening from time to time.

I still want to see if our team picks their ass up off the mat and responds after the bye week. This season isn't lost yet.

Sorry to interrupt the bitch fest, now back to the sky is falling.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: authorhawgerelli on October 24, 2016, 09:23:22 AM
This is big boy football.  Dashawn Hand destroys the right guard from aTM.  Neither of our guards should be allowed to even wear the aTm guard's shoes they are in such a different league. 

https://twitter.com/demetricdwarren/status/789967247838248960

Excuse 1.  "Jimmys and Joes"  No coach we've ever had has been able to consistently recruit either of these type of kids.  Hand is unbelievable.  Both of those programs are able to do something we don't do on the recruiting level.  Unfortunately it is a Catch 22.  If you're going to do it legally (and I'm not saying Bama and/or aTm does everything legally or illegally), you have to have some NC's under your belt, and they need to be recent, or (as in aTm's case) unlimited resources.

Excuse 2.  "Defensive Coordinator"  Coach Bielema has made statements many times this year he is dissatisfied with how are defense is playing.  Firing him now is only an option if he plans to move the replacement in from inside the staff.  That's doable.  I personally would like to limp through and see if Charlie Strong is available (I think he will be).

Excuse 3:  "Offensive Line Coach"   The word is that Anderson has brought NFL level technique and "rules" with him.  Not that I've heard that he and Enos are feuding, but it does appear the line is still confused.  The shocking thing to me is that our depth is so thin, nobody else is ever trotted out there to "wake up" a starter.  Our backup center surely should be able to play some guard for when either of our 2 starters can't remember to block a guy lined up directly in front of them, but I've also been told we try that all week in practice, but apparently he's not able.  This one is a head scratcher, because one thing Coach B has really going for him, reputation wise, is the number of offensive linemen he puts into the NFL.  Something has to happen here.

Excuse 4:  "Strength and Conditioning"  I've said it before.  We get stronger, and somewhat bigger, but the irony of our university being the most successful track and field school ever and our football team being possibly the slowest in D-1 (whatever it is called now) is unbelievable.  Coach Herb has the personality to get these guys to do anything.  He needs to try some speed and quickness workouts.

Excuse 5;  "Big 10 Offense"  Although AA is not the prototypical spread option looking guy, he's much more athletic than Auburn's qb.  I don't have access to all of our game film this year, but when our offense seemed to really be unstoppable to me is when we are running our hurry up offense (the closest to spread we have).  How about Auburn fired 4 tailbacks pre-season, and we still gave up 544 yards to them rushing?  What would they have done with their true #1 tailback?  Shudder.

As the drill sergeant said, it's a shit sandwich, and we're all going to have to take a bite.  I really like Coach Biliema.  He has some tough decisions to make.  Firing him ain't going to happen.  Most of the Hog message boards would be better off renaming themselves the Woopigkneejerkers to properly quantify the reaction.  Yes, the tired, our losses are to 3 teams that are a combined 20-3, but unless we are planning on joining the Big 12, we need to do what it takes to run with the big boys in the SEC West (NFL-Lite).
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HoneyBakedPiglet on October 24, 2016, 10:03:55 AM
It's pretty bad.


http://www.arkansasfight.com/2016/10/24/13374522/arkansas-brought-back-everyone-defense-got-worse-razorbacks-auburn
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: authorhawgerelli on October 24, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
It's pretty bad.


http://www.arkansasfight.com/2016/10/24/13374522/arkansas-brought-back-everyone-defense-got-worse-razorbacks-auburn

Tough to ignore. 

It's kind of like a romantic relationship.  You expect that things will get better with age, but when they don't, even with understanding, counseling, etc., the only thing that fixes it is complete separation. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on October 24, 2016, 10:24:00 AM
I'm not off the bandwagon, but if Smith isn't fired I will be.  That's a change that needs to be made, for optics if nothing else (and that's silly to say because of course there's other reasons to fire him...like the fact that he's coordinating a historically bad defense in year three). I don't care if Bret's old friends with wife or whatever, this is the SEC. You have kill your grandma sometimes.

He should have been fired yesterday and the job given to Rhoads. That way we'd at least see if some problems could be fixed with playcalling. In the end we need to pull a Texas A&M and throw big money at a big coach/recruiter. What's Clemson paying Brent Venebles? Go offer him a million more.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogsrunwild on October 24, 2016, 10:28:27 AM
The problem isn't that we are only slow, we are weak too.  Blockers lock up our defensive guys and they are too weak to shed them.  Our offense linemen consistently get abused and pushed backwards, even on running plays where they literally only need to fire off the ball straight forward.  No pulling, just fire straight ahead and they get their shit pushed backwards into the backfield.  Shameful.  They are slow and weak.  Herb isn't getting it done and there simply isn't any way to say he is. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: PBHogcaller on October 24, 2016, 10:33:53 AM
The problem isn't that we are only slow, we are weak too.  Blockers lock up our defensive guys and they are too weak to shed them.  Our offense linemen consistently get abused and pushed backwards, even on running plays where they literally only need to fire off the ball straight forward.  No pulling, just fire straight ahead and they get their shit pushed backwards into the backfield.  Shameful.  They are slow and weak.  Herb isn't getting it done and there simply isn't any way to say he is.
Its a patch work offense line, one was on defense last year, one is a newcomer, one prob. wouldn't start much places. To me the O-line is our most glaring weakness.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Whyte Boar on October 24, 2016, 10:35:49 AM
You think it is a glaring weakness now?  Check out what we have coming in next year.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: notaslibro on October 24, 2016, 10:56:10 AM
Don't be offended when I tell you that I don't trust your analysis

Don't argue with his analysis.

Auburn opens -9. That's too high. Their offense is not very good.

Auburn's offense is not very good.

Auburn's offense is average. Particularly with White not being a runner. This will be the 5th best offense we've seen so far. We've got the best QB in the league, the league's leading rusher, NFL TE and five really good wideouts and Auburn's offense is better? You should never go full retard.

Auburn certainly isn't gonna score 35.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogfan58 on October 24, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
The problem isn't that we are only slow, we are weak too.  Blockers lock up our defensive guys and they are too weak to shed them.  Our offense linemen consistently get abused and pushed backwards, even on running plays where they literally only need to fire off the ball straight forward.  No pulling, just fire straight ahead and they get their shit pushed backwards into the backfield.  Shameful.  They are slow and weak.  Herb isn't getting it done and there simply isn't any way to say he is.

I have no idea who Bama's S&C coach is, but I'm sure they have like a zillion assistants or "special consultants". Hire one of those guys, if not to replace Herb, then to teach him to do what Bama does.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Mr A Ziffell on October 24, 2016, 11:08:30 AM
Don't argue with his analysis.

He got 1 right.
Auburn certainly isn't gonna score 35.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: authorhawgerelli on October 24, 2016, 11:21:25 AM
I have no idea who Bama's S&C coach is, but I'm sure they have like a zillion assistants or "special consultants". Hire one of those guys, if not to replace Herb, then to teach him to do what Bama does.

Don't forget, even though I know the Bama coach to be crazier than a loon, and he does, obviously, a better job, he's also got the elite of the elite.  There is no magic workout.  Whatever we're doing, isn't working.  We need to find out what similar programs to us are doing, and let's face it, Bama isn't a similar program to anybody in the NCAA for right now. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Snowman Slayer on October 24, 2016, 11:40:31 AM
We were sold a bill of goods this year.  The department narrative was this defense was returning 9 out of 11 starters and they would understand their role much better this year and might even pleasantly surprise us.   The narrative was that Bert was getting his types of players on both sides of the ball and that the program was in a better place for it.  We were told that we should start seeing this hard earned depth pay off for us in the future.  That sales pitch looks entirely shot to shit after this weekend. 

Another thing we haven't really talked about in this thread is how clearly this team quit on saturday.  They just flat out rolled over.  Our player's coach let his team spread their cheeks and take maybe the most embarrassing beating I've ever seen the hogs take (The USC beating had a few 4th quarter bright spots for the program).  Just for clarity's sake, even Petrino** led team's defenses never had a beating this bad.  I haven't quite lost 100% of my faith in Bert like some of you have, but you have to be crazy if this game didn't shake that to the foundations.

The offseason narrative was that we thought our Dline could be the best we've ever had. -They have looked much worse. 
We knew our DB's and LBs were shitty and thin. -well that's the story of the program. 

They've been schemed up horribly all season.  Zero pressure on the quarterback, zero setting the edge, shittastic tackling and tackling angles.  3/4 of those things are fundamental. 

There is a theme here at the SEC schools that improved mightily this year.  Auburn hired Kevin steele and A&M hired John Chavis.  Fuck, those are good hires..  These two teams had terrible defenses last year and they go out and hire monsters.  Turned around in one year.   Arkansas a couple years ago had a dramatic hiring process and lands brokedick Robb Smith. 

I'm not under any illusion that getting a guy like Chavis or Steele could even fix our issues in the short term.  A&M and Auburn had the distinct advantage of actually having pretty talented kids on campus to begin with, they just needed someone to scheme them for success.  Our issues are more insidious and endemic to our program.  The talent gap needs to close somehow and we need to get top level coaching on both sides of the ball to either compensate or fix it.  Smith ain't it.

Offensively, I hope this was an aberration for Enos.   I tend to think he's been hobbled by this shitfuck of an Oline.  Can you imagine what this team would look like right now without Enos?  Remember, Georgia tried to hire him right off the bat after hiring Smart.  I'd not be suprised if Enos bails after this year, we are losing most-if-not- all of our top WRs after the season.  AA could revert to how BA looked with no playmakers.  I don't know. 

The depth thing is also infuriating as well.  Where is this depth?  I guess I can acknowledge that there is a good amount on the Dline and at WR, but where else?  Nowhere.  We don't have any challenging our shitfuck Oline, we don't have any at DB to challenge our guys who can't tackle in space, the depth seems unathletic from a special teams standpoint, and as usual we don't have any at LB.

Bert's M.O. is that he's a CEO that the player's like and respect.  Well Bert, you gotta cut some fat ASAP.  If they respected you, they wouldn't have quit like they did.  This program needs an overhaul and if you can't get it done, ...well bye. This should be a wake-up call of a magnatude on the scale of your BMI.  Do what you have to do to save your job, get us a monster.  Take a paycut if you have to.


**I'm Not advocating we should have kept Petrino- go fuck yourself
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 24, 2016, 01:29:51 PM
I think Bama is the wrong measuring stick in general. If programs could replicate what they do with the same or even a small percentage of the same success...they would. As good as Bama has been even they have altered what they do to better compete with the teams that simply want to run around them instead of through them. LSU, Florida, and Georgia may have a shot at achieving consistent power football results (like Bama) and we might be pretty salty once every 4 years or so but it's never going to be a every year deal. We simply are not bringing in the caliber of player to maintain that level of consistency on a year by year basis. They'll always be recruiting reaches and weak links that limit what we want to do. They'll always be injuries that expose a weak link position group. Programs run spread offenses because they equalize the odds that their player has a better chance of success in space relative to lining up and trying to physically out play the other team.

We focus on the topic and say we are talking about defense, but really we are talking about offensive style. What sets the tone for the program? It's offense. Nobody talked about our great defense back in the day...they probably remember how well we ran the option/veer or even how we broke the huddle and line up and fired off the ball like they planned it that way. There are 128 D1 programs and I'd hazard a guess that 110 probably run some sort of spread offense and focus on being fast in every thing they do. That's a mentality that actually started long ago as coaches would make their players sprint between drills and no matter what they were doing...they did it fast. It carried over onto the field as the light bulbs started coming on as to what speed and simplification do for a team. These teams don't do 300 things well...they do about 5 pretty damn great. Don't worry about making a mistake as long as you do it full speed. I don't see that kind of mentality with our team. You can add in your own Denzell lines but we don't move fast, we don't think fast, we just arent' fast. We don't put hats on hats. We don't arrive angry. What I do see is defensive backs celebrating incomplete passes while we are down 28-3. I remember those days pretty well when Nutt was coach and I'm seeing it with this team.

I absolutely feel like we can run a Pro style multiple formation offense and have success. This season for what ever reason we just aren't clicking with the offensive line and that's fouled up the whole works. My thinking is it's a combination of players not being ready physically and mentally, possibly defenses have broke the code on what Enos/Bert are running to the extent that we literally have no other answers. Nobody is saying this but what if Austin Allen couldn't check his way out of a wet paper bag? What if some of the problems we are having are because of an inexperienced QB who's not reading the defense as well as we need and likewise the offensive line (Center) isn't making the correct call out signals or whatever it is they do. These are what if's but when you are talking about a pro style with multiple sets...there is a lot of moving parts and schemes and sight adjustments. I'm sure we aren't exactly the New England Patriots but perhaps our offense is too complicated for the level of experience we are putting on the field.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on October 24, 2016, 01:35:31 PM
I watched the second half of the game last night.  It was hard. 
The thing that stood out as much as any one thing that hurt us...players WAY THe FUCK out of position when the ball was snapped, or even 3 seconds after, and horrible, like math/geometry-retard -level-bad angles, on every single play.   Maybe these guys need a fucking geometry class.
Out don't have to be faster than somebody to not let them get past you, you just have to be in position to at least get in their fucking way.  We had multiple plays where there wasn't even anyone to get juked out of their shoes... :suicide:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: kingofdequeen on October 24, 2016, 01:40:39 PM
I watched the second half of the game last night.  It was hard. 

look at this david carradine mofo...
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 24, 2016, 01:43:29 PM
I watched the second half of the game last night.  It was hard. 
The thing that stood out as much as any one thing that hurt us...players WAY THe FUCK out of position when the ball was snapped, or even 3 seconds after, and horrible, like math/geometry-retard -level-bad angles, on every single play.   Maybe these guys need a fucking geometry class.
Out don't have to be faster than somebody to not let them get past you, you just have to be in position to at least get in their fucking way.  We had multiple plays where there wasn't even anyone to get juked out of their shoes... :suicide:

I made some sort of snarky comment in the game thread asking why Tolliver was so far out of position. It didn't get any responses.

It was meant as a sarcastic rhetoric query because ironically Tolliver was so far in position that one time. So good in fact that I figured it had to be a mistake.
Title: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: mde114 on October 24, 2016, 05:18:24 PM
It's 515 on Monday and Robb Smith still has a job?

Has the Arkansas media addressed this with Burt?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Barton Fink on October 24, 2016, 05:35:07 PM


https://twitter.com/demetricdwarren/status/789967247838248960



I wish there was video of the one reply where Wallace was chasing the defender like a baby chasing a dog. It was pretty comical. AA didn't even want his help getting up.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 24, 2016, 06:17:50 PM
I wish there was video of the one reply where Wallace was chasing the defender like a baby chasing a dog. It was pretty comical. AA didn't even want his help getting up.


I remember that play and some reason I thought of Chris Farley doing his "Do you do you do you remember when I used to block for you..."
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on October 24, 2016, 06:40:11 PM
This is big boy football.  Dashawn Hand destroys the right guard from aTM.  Neither of our guards should be allowed to even wear the aTm guard's shoes they are in such a different league. 

https://twitter.com/demetricdwarren/status/789967247838248960

Excuse 1.  "Jimmys and Joes"  No coach we've ever had has been able to consistently recruit either of these type of kids.  Hand is unbelievable.  Both of those programs are able to do something we don't do on the recruiting level.  Unfortunately it is a Catch 22.  If you're going to do it legally (and I'm not saying Bama and/or aTm does everything legally or illegally), you have to have some NC's under your belt, and they need to be recent, or (as in aTm's case) unlimited resources.

Excuse 2.  "Defensive Coordinator"  Coach Bielema has made statements many times this year he is dissatisfied with how are defense is playing.  Firing him now is only an option if he plans to move the replacement in from inside the staff.  That's doable.  I personally would like to limp through and see if Charlie Strong is available (I think he will be).

Excuse 3:  "Offensive Line Coach"   The word is that Anderson has brought NFL level technique and "rules" with him.  Not that I've heard that he and Enos are feuding, but it does appear the line is still confused.  The shocking thing to me is that our depth is so thin, nobody else is ever trotted out there to "wake up" a starter.  Our backup center surely should be able to play some guard for when either of our 2 starters can't remember to block a guy lined up directly in front of them, but I've also been told we try that all week in practice, but apparently he's not able.  This one is a head scratcher, because one thing Coach B has really going for him, reputation wise, is the number of offensive linemen he puts into the NFL.  Something has to happen here.

Excuse 4:  "Strength and Conditioning"  I've said it before.  We get stronger, and somewhat bigger, but the irony of our university being the most successful track and field school ever and our football team being possibly the slowest in D-1 (whatever it is called now) is unbelievable.  Coach Herb has the personality to get these guys to do anything.  He needs to try some speed and quickness workouts.

Excuse 5;  "Big 10 Offense"  Although AA is not the prototypical spread option looking guy, he's much more athletic than Auburn's qb.  I don't have access to all of our game film this year, but when our offense seemed to really be unstoppable to me is when we are running our hurry up offense (the closest to spread we have).  How about Auburn fired 4 tailbacks pre-season, and we still gave up 544 yards to them rushing?  What would they have done with their true #1 tailback?  Shudder.

As the drill sergeant said, it's a shit sandwich, and we're all going to have to take a bite.  I really like Coach Biliema.  He has some tough decisions to make.  Firing him ain't going to happen.  Most of the Hog message boards would be better off renaming themselves the Woopigkneejerkers to properly quantify the reaction.  Yes, the tired, our losses are to 3 teams that are a combined 20-3, but unless we are planning on joining the Big 12, we need to do what it takes to run with the big boys in the SEC West (NFL-Lite).

How many olinemen has Bert recruited or had three years here that were drafted in the top 6 rounds?  Anyone?  I don't consider Swanson his guy.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: DirkPiggler on October 24, 2016, 06:58:33 PM
You think it is a glaring weakness now?  Check out what we have coming in next year.

You mean when four of five starters return? 

I'd love to see someone else get a crack at coaching those guys.  Contrary to popular belief, talent isn't the issue - at least physical talent.  Either our linemen are dumb as a post, or they're getting poor instruction. My bet is on the latter.   With one exception who I won't name, most of the time when our guys get beat it's not getting physically manhandled as much as not knowing who to attempt to block.  Moving them around to different positions as much as we did in the preseason and early games doesn't help much either. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on October 24, 2016, 08:17:47 PM

I remember that play and some reason I thought of Chris Farley doing his "Do you do you do you remember when I used to block for you..."

Except it wasn't so awesome.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: EastArkHog on October 24, 2016, 08:43:20 PM


Offense and the defense both looked like total shit  :puke:

Bacon out
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Ty Webb on October 24, 2016, 09:28:04 PM
From Twitter and HogStats:

"Auburn gained 72.4% of the yards it physically could have Saturday. That's a lot. Interesting stat category."

That's damn near unbelievable.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on October 24, 2016, 09:37:43 PM
From Twitter and HogStats:

"Auburn gained 72.4% of the yards it physically could have Saturday. That's a lot. Interesting stat category."

That's damn near unbelievable.

Well they gained 100% of available yards on 9 of their drives, so 72.4% in total actually seems low to me.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Ty Webb on October 24, 2016, 10:28:09 PM
Well they gained 100% of available yards on 9 of their drives, so 72.4% in total actually seems low to me.
They scored 8 times.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: MDEM on October 25, 2016, 05:29:46 AM
They scored 8 times.

Their punter was ate a whole tub of ice cream on the sidelines.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on October 25, 2016, 06:16:20 AM
They scored 8 times.

8 x 7 = 56 indeed.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on October 25, 2016, 06:52:39 AM
Oh how I long for the days when our defense could force 3rd downs
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogfan58 on October 25, 2016, 08:14:29 AM
Oh how I long for the days when our defense could force stop teams on 3rd downs

fixed that.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on October 25, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
Their punter was ate a whole tub of ice cream on the sidelines.

He prolly gained a yard or two...



around the waist.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 06, 2017, 04:25:16 PM
Damnit, we don't have wait on Wake Forest to offer him a job before we dump him!

Pull the fucking trigger already!
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: CardiacHOG on January 06, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
What is his buyout?  Save some cash to bring in the next guy by "losing" Robb to some other school.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 06, 2017, 04:48:19 PM
What is his buyout?  Save some cash to bring in the next guy by "losing" Robb to some other school.

WTF????  Smith has a buyout???  That the You of A has to pay???
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Ty Webb on January 07, 2017, 08:54:04 AM
WTF????  Smith has a buyout???  That the You of A has to pay???
Dont know about a buyout but I bet many here had zero issues with him getting this raise from 500k to 750k just a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: cotte on January 07, 2017, 09:53:26 AM
Dont know about a buyout but I bet many here had zero issues with him getting this raise from 500k to 750k just a couple years ago.

No kidding. We were all shaking in out boots that someone would come take out prized D coach.
Amazing how times have changed.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: bogeyfree on January 07, 2017, 10:15:39 AM
No kidding. We were all shaking in out boots that someone would come take out prized D coach.
Amazing how times have changed.
I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere but I still wonder how much Smith is to blame or whether he's basically being told what to run by BB.  I truly don't know.  I know all head coaches ultimately have the say but I just wonder if Smith is being handcuffed.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 07, 2017, 10:17:32 AM
I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere but I still wonder how much Smith is to blame or whether he's basically being told what to run by BB.  I truly don't know.  I know all head coaches ultimately have the say but I just wonder if Smith is being handcuffed.

Send Bielema to Wake Forest!!!!
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: cotte on January 07, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere but I still wonder how much Smith is to blame or whether he's basically being told what to run by BB.  I truly don't know.  I know all head coaches ultimately have the say but I just wonder if Smith is being handcuffed.
I've wondered the same thing. Sure we had a good triangle of players when we were a really good D. But, don't all great Ds have really good players?

But, hell. We sucked so bad last year that it really doesn't matter.

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Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 07, 2017, 12:02:12 PM
Dont know about a buyout but I bet many here had zero issues with him getting this raise from 500k to 750k just a couple years ago.

Thanks for posting that pic.  It screwed with my mind this morning.  It's what I expected with our administration, so I thought it was written today. 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Stephen Colboar on January 07, 2017, 11:19:49 PM
Considering our defense ran pretty much what Smith ran in his last year at Rutgers...  and different from what Ash had in place here... I'd guess he wasn't being interfered with all that much.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: acater on January 08, 2017, 07:20:22 PM
I've wondered the same thing. Sure we had a good triangle of players when we were a really good D. But, don't all great Ds have really good players?

But, hell. We sucked so bad last year that it really doesn't matter.

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He became a legend in our eyes for those three shutouts he had that year against teams with terrible QB's. If you have terrible QB play, he can shut you down, just look at Florida this year.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: hogs45 on January 08, 2017, 08:15:02 PM
Send Bielema to Wake Forest!!!!

Please no. My cousin has committed to WF and I'd like to see him succeed. That is all.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 08, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
He became a legend in our eyes for those three shutouts he had that year against teams with terrible QB's. If you have terrible QB play, he can shut you down, just look at Florida this year.

But Auburn, LSU, and MSU didn't exactly have stellar quarterbacks.  And OM did.  Looking back, that might have been our best defensive game.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on January 08, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Is he fired yet?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Turd F. on January 08, 2017, 11:18:51 PM
Is he fired yet?

The AFCA starts tomorrow so we should know by the end of the week if there's going to be a change.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Joe Swine on January 09, 2017, 10:15:37 AM
Maybe he wants to make a more measured move than the one he would have to make if his boss were to get fired.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: bogeyfree on January 09, 2017, 01:16:16 PM
Robb to Minnesota
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: VegasHog on January 09, 2017, 01:17:09 PM
sounds like it's for real this time
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: geohul on January 09, 2017, 01:24:46 PM
It is indeed.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18437663/minnesota-golden-gophers-hire-robb-smith-new-defensive-coordinator
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on January 09, 2017, 01:25:40 PM
Sounds like a super place for a guy that just got a raw deal here with fans managing their expectations.  :dude2:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: MDEM on January 09, 2017, 01:26:42 PM
HAHAHAHA...GTFO.  Minnysoda.  Love it.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Tampa TechnoHOG on January 09, 2017, 01:31:53 PM
Smoke and mirrors one way and then Siberia.   :stunned:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: kingofdequeen on January 09, 2017, 01:51:24 PM
gruden as DC?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Count Porkula on January 09, 2017, 01:53:08 PM
gruden as DC?

nope.  we're getting the band back together.

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400_compressed/d8/d8885227-3094-458e-b273-958e877f3b6f_400_compressed.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: kingofdequeen on January 09, 2017, 01:57:11 PM
nope.  we're getting the band back together.

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400_compressed/d8/d8885227-3094-458e-b273-958e877f3b6f_400_compressed.jpg)

what does your social life have to do with this?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: TheOtherWhiteMeat on January 09, 2017, 01:58:47 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRezj-F_N_Ud-KJYHa2g6MJa2XOAnb1UTq1JawrytBPGfFgtoVH5Q)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on January 09, 2017, 02:02:06 PM
Bob Diaco
Brady Hoke
Charlie Partridge
Tommy Tubervile
Ed Reed


Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 09, 2017, 02:03:15 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRezj-F_N_Ud-KJYHa2g6MJa2XOAnb1UTq1JawrytBPGfFgtoVH5Q)

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on January 09, 2017, 02:05:36 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRezj-F_N_Ud-KJYHa2g6MJa2XOAnb1UTq1JawrytBPGfFgtoVH5Q)

We need a photoshop of this pronto
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Stephen Colboar on January 09, 2017, 02:11:35 PM
gruden as DC?
3-4.
Rex Ryan.
Underachieving American Football.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: big_pig on January 09, 2017, 02:28:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JId1jfM.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: asshat on January 09, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
The man can't coach a 2nd half but he can get rid of his assistants without firing them.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HogofWar on January 09, 2017, 02:40:20 PM
The man can't coach a 2nd half but he can get rid of his assistants without firing them.

Seems like Bert does not want to look like he pushes them out. Makes you wonder the real reasons his assistants left him while at Wisconsin, while he says that he was unable to keep them because of what he could pay them.  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Razor B on January 09, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
3-4.
Rex Ryan.
Underachieving American Football.

I hate feet.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Wooisme on January 09, 2017, 02:58:11 PM
Bielema goes through assistants like an 18 year old with a pocket full of fifties goes through blondes with big boobs in a whore house.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: gambler on January 09, 2017, 03:24:02 PM
If Minnesota hires him after looking at our stats for this year, it makes me wonder who they turned down.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on January 09, 2017, 03:26:49 PM
If Minnesota hires him after looking at our stats for this year, it makes me wonder who they turned down.

If I were a Minnesota fan and looked at our stats, I would definitely be confused.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 09, 2017, 03:32:07 PM
Last coach from Arkansas to go to Minnesota was Lou Holtz, I believe.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HogofWar on January 09, 2017, 03:32:40 PM
If Minnesota hires him after looking at our stats for this year, it makes me wonder who they turned down.

If I were a Minnesota fan and looked at our stats, I would definitely be confused.

Maybe they were looking for a player's coach.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 09, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
Seems like Bert does not want to look like he pushes them out. Makes you wonder the real reasons his assistants left him while at Wisconsin, while he says that he was unable to keep them because of what he could pay them.  :hmmm:

Nothing to do with paying assistants.  He came here for the same reason Smith went to Minnesota.  Where do you think he learned it from?

If he wants to blame it on paying assistants, he needs to figure out that you get the talent in, then pay them.  You don't just offer more money to anyone that comes along.

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: notaslibro on January 09, 2017, 04:08:27 PM
http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?73441-New-Defensive-Coordinator-Robb-Smith

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: upine on January 09, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
About to find out how much of the defense was Bert's or Smith's.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Show-Me Hog on January 09, 2017, 04:47:53 PM
http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?73441-New-Defensive-Coordinator-Robb-Smith

After 9 pages of people mostly discussing whether Smith is as good as the outgoing DC, on page 9 a guy posts this.

Just heard on radio that this coach is ranked 81st among DC's while Sawvel was ranked 25th. Anyone concerned?

That's GDIAF level stupidity right there.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Satch on January 09, 2017, 05:47:45 PM
Bielema goes through assistants like an 18 year old with a pocket full of fifties goes through blondes with big boobs in a whore house.
You know who else goes through assistant coaches quickly? 
Teams in the NCAA.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: TexZilla on January 09, 2017, 06:00:03 PM
We need to be singing his praises until the ink is dry.  That plane from Lincoln took off because of shit being said round here.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 09, 2017, 06:42:49 PM
We need to be singing his praises until the ink is dry.  That plane from Lincoln took off because of shit being said round here.

Buncha dumbasses around here.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Count Porkula on January 09, 2017, 06:44:37 PM
Buncha dumbasses around here.

no, just dicks and bitches with messiah pig complexes
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: MDEM on January 09, 2017, 06:59:45 PM
Hey, Smith is a great DC.  I think he was handicapped by a meddling HC, shitty offense, unrealistic expectations(run O vs. pass heavy O), and taking subpar talent up against the toughest teams in the country.

Recruiting on D has been terrible.  Maybe his fault, maybe Bert's, I don't know...but he had no real playmakers in his corner this year, and absolutely zero speed at LB. 

He'll do well at Minnesota.  I wish him all the luck in the world.

We're fucked.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: acater on January 09, 2017, 08:05:55 PM
After 9 pages of people mostly discussing whether Smith is as good as the outgoing DC, on page 9 a guy posts this.

Just heard on radio that this coach is ranked 81st among DC's while Sawvel was ranked 25th. Anyone concerned?

That's GDIAF level stupidity right there.

I love that they all think we "lost him" and that they took him from us.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Son_of_Spam on January 09, 2017, 08:08:43 PM
Talent makes coaches great. When the talent drops off, the coach takes the heat. A year ago, we were praising him for our D. Talent dropped off, and well, he's gone.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: BASS on January 09, 2017, 08:09:16 PM
http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/boards/showthread.php?73441-New-Defensive-Coordinator-Robb-Smith

i guess that is the minnesota version of hogville and nafoom making a baby.  shit took forever to load.  i can't believe they think this is anything other than a horrific hire.  talk about a collection of doofuses.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: SpiderHam on January 09, 2017, 08:10:59 PM
Talent makes coaches great. When the talent drops off, the coach takes the heat. A year ago, we were praising him for our D. Talent dropped off, and well, he's gone.
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Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: MDEM on January 09, 2017, 08:15:06 PM
i guess that is the minnesota version of hogville and nafoom making a baby.  shit took forever to load.  i can't believe they think this is anything other than a horrific hire.  talk about a collection of doofuses.

You have a slow connection.  I was fairly well impressed that they have a decent board.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: jsimp on January 09, 2017, 08:15:30 PM
the posts about them "stealing one from bert" made me l o l
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: BASS on January 09, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
the posts about them "stealing one from bert" made me l o l

maybe the general knowledge of hog fans that robb was being ushered out and bert helped him find a new gig is scientific rockets to everyone else, but it ain't too hard to googlemuthafucka and do a little research.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Boared Cynic on January 09, 2017, 08:24:14 PM
Hey, Smith is a great DC.  I think he was handicapped by a meddling HC, shitty offense, unrealistic expectations(run O vs. pass heavy O), and taking subpar talent up against the toughest teams in the country.

Recruiting on D has been terrible.  Maybe his fault, maybe Bert's, I don't know...but he had no real playmakers in his corner this year, and absolutely zero speed at LB. 

He'll do well at Minnesota.  I wish him all the luck in the world.

We're fucked.

We had every reason to be better on defense this year and we weren't. We were way worse.

Again I think he can be good but apparently only with 3 NFL players on the team. He might draw it beautifully on the board but the results aren't there.

I dont buy that Bert was over meddling.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Razor B on January 09, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
We need to be singing his praises until the ink is dry.  That plane from Lincoln took off because of shit being said round here.

Little do you know that plane was never going to take off with Nutt. The deal was off as soon as Nutt asked Pederson for Tom Osborne's phone number. Nutt was told to ask that to get the AD's reaction.

That means the UA gave Nutt a two year pass when there was no Nebraska deal in place.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HogofWar on January 09, 2017, 08:59:24 PM
Little do you know that plane was never going to take off with Nutt. The deal was off as soon as Nutt asked Pederson for Tom Osborne's phone number. Nutt was told to ask that to get the AD's reaction.

That means the UA gave Nutt a two year pass when there was no Nebraska deal in place.
Who told Nutt to do that? Lindsey?
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Razor B on January 09, 2017, 09:08:53 PM
Who told Nutt to do that? Lindsey?

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Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: sofaking on January 09, 2017, 10:18:30 PM
Haven't been able to find anything online, but I got a text that Rhoads is DC, with Mississippi State's safeties coach, Maurice Linguist, coming on board. Linguist coached with Rhoads at Iowa State.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Buffinator on January 09, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
They were known for a stifling secondary.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Turd F. on January 09, 2017, 10:21:59 PM
They were known for a stifling secondary.

 :suicide:

Goddammit. We need a proven recruiter and a good coach. And ffs, if you're gonna steal, steal from a team who's known for its defense.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: jsimp on January 09, 2017, 10:27:28 PM
:suicide:

Goddammit. We need a proven recruiter and a good coach. And ffs, if you're gonna steal, steal from a team who's known for its defense.

I looked the guys recruiting  up and it looks like this year he landed mostly juco kids and lost out on most of the 4 stars he was after. I have no idea how Akrit that info is, maybe it's not. If so  :-\
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Animal on January 09, 2017, 10:29:27 PM
Haven't been able to find anything online, but I got a text that Rhoads is DC, with Mississippi State's safeties coach, Maurice Linguist, coming on board. Linguist coached with Rhoads at Iowa State.

Mo is from Dallas.

maybe he can help us get that Texas talent

Seems a little quick for Bert but maybe he's learning to not make such a production out of hiring.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: Turd F. on January 09, 2017, 10:33:50 PM
I looked the guys recruiting  up and it looks like this year he landed mostly juco kids and lost out on most of the 4 stars he was after. I have no idea how Akrit that info is, maybe it's not. If so  :-\

I don't have a problem with using jucos (nearly everyone else does) as long as they're good.
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: BASS on January 09, 2017, 10:36:53 PM
I looked the guys recruiting  up and it looks like this year he landed mostly juco kids and lost out on most of the 4 stars he was after. I have no idea how Akrit that info is, maybe it's not. If so  :-\

lighten up francis, he was recruiting those kids to fucking starkville
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: jsimp on January 09, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
lighten up francis, he was recruiting those kids to fucking starkville

Touché
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: TexZilla on January 09, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
Finding someone who can excel as strategist, a tactician, a teacher, a talent evaluator, a salesman, a counselor, and a bunch of other roles is not realistic. 




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Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: SpiderHam on January 10, 2017, 12:06:58 AM
Mississippi State's safeties coach, Maurice Linguist, coming on board. Linguist coached with Rhoads at Iowa State.
I hear he's a cunning guy...
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: HogTat on January 10, 2017, 12:12:25 AM
I hear he's a cunning guy...

Came up with the Central Linear Impact Tackle system.  He's a master of it.
 
Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: NotHereToMakeSense on January 10, 2017, 12:51:40 AM
Haven't been able to find anything online, but I got a text that Rhoads is DC, with Mississippi State's safeties coach, Maurice Linguist, coming on board. Linguist coached with Rhoads at Iowa State.

We can Nickname him "The Colonel"

Title: Re: Let's do a Robb Smith thread
Post by: lawtiger on January 10, 2017, 07:46:35 AM
Came up with the Central Linear Impact Tackle system.  He's a master of it.
 

Ah...the C.L.I.T.

An offshoot of L.A.B.I.A. - Liberate Apes Before Imprisoning Apes.

https://youtu.be/-N8Ta0v7dSM