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Title: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TheOtherWhiteMeat on January 30, 2012, 09:05:16 AM
May as well get it started.


Receiver officially commits

Monday, January 30, 2012

LITTLE ROCK — An oral commitment Arkansas received Wednesday from one of the nation’s top junior-college receivers was made public Sunday.

Demetrius Wilson, 6-3, 180, 4.4 seconds in the 40-yard dash, of Glendale, (Ariz.) Community College, chose the Razorbacks over about 10 other offers, including Tennessee, Arizona and Arizona State. He made an official visit to Fayetteville on the the weekend of Jan. 20-22 and was impressed with the Sam M. Walton College of Business and the football program.

Wilson is Arkansas’ 21st oral commitment, with national signing date arriving on Wednesday. Arkansas signed defensive end Austin Flynn, 6-4, 260, 4.47 of Wilmington (Calif.) Los Angeles Harbor Community College in December. Oral commitments are nonbinding.

“They’re doing excellent at graduating their students and that’s another good thing,” Wilson said. “And the football program that coach (Bobby) Petrino brings to Arkansas is just amazing.”

Wilson, who recorded 51 receptions for 927 yards and 10 touchdowns this past season, earned first-team all-Arizona Community College Athletic Conference honors.

Wilson, who made an official visit to Tennessee, said he considered other schools but the visit to Fayetteville sealed the deal for him.

“Once I took my visit and saw how nice the campus was and how all of the teammates were acting like family,” Wilson said. “That really caught my attention.”

Wilson also returned 22 punts for 289 yards and 1 touchdown this season.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 09:07:18 AM
Bad news for Courtney Gardner.

Our "recruiting experts" don't know dick.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 30, 2012, 09:54:55 AM
Bad news for Courtney Gardner.

Our "recruiting experts" don't know dick.

According to one of them, he was "let go Friday".  FSU backed off him as well.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: GuinnessHog on January 30, 2012, 10:00:52 AM
According to one of them, he was "let go Friday".  FSU backed off him as well.

He are dumb?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on January 30, 2012, 10:06:09 AM
The 'Experts" are saying DGB to Mizzou now too.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
 :nazi:
The 'Experts" are saying DGB to Mizzou now too.

It would be great if we got this kid but if he decides to go to his home state school I can't blame him too much and am not going to lose any sleep over it.  One position I will never worry about with Petrino as coach is WR. 

Now if he he was a 5 star 300lb DT who runs a 4.8 then I might weep a little.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 10:37:36 AM
:nazi:
It would be great if we got this kid but if he decides to go to his home state school I can't blame him too much and am not going to lose any sleep over it.  One position I will never worry about with Petrino as coach is WR. 

Now if he he was a 5 star 300lb DT who runs a 4.8 then I might weep a little.


Yeah, it would be nice to land some highly-touted defensive players here at the end.  Are there even any left to land?  I guess I should keep up with this more closely. 

Green-Beckham would have been a great pickup, but at least he's playing a position where, at least on paper, we're pretty deep.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogfan58 on January 30, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
who are these "experts" you speak of?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on January 30, 2012, 10:54:58 AM
who are these "experts" you speak of?

ESpiN for one:

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UPDATE: Texas continues to linger in its attempts to land the nation's top wide receiver, Dorial Green-Beckham (Sprinfield, Missouri/Hillcrest). But, the team's recent addition of another wide receiver, Daje Johnson, indicates where Texas believes their standing is with DGB.

Instead, a top two has emerged for Dorial Green Beckham. Arkansas and Missouri appear to have a 50/50 shot to land the 6-6 220-pound target.

"In some ways, Arkansas seems like the perfect fit for Green-Beckham," Stephen Spiewak of Maxpreps.com wrote. "He would be close to home and get to play right away for a team that can compete for a national championship next season.

Spiewak considers Missouri the favorite to acquire DGB.

"While Arkansas will be tempting, Missouri could win out by executing one of the biggest recruiting coups ever," he wrote. "With family all around the state, Columbia makes sense as a centrally located destination for Green-Beckham, even if Fayetteville is closer to Springfield. Not to mention, his last official visit was to Missouri, meaning Gary Pinkel and staff got the often critical last word."

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogfan58 on January 30, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
fuck
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 30, 2012, 11:00:48 AM
"Biggest recruiting coups ever..."  Really?  A kid that decides to attend his home state's school that's been in the top 3 throughout the entire recruiting process, has family all over the state, and took his last visit there.

That's expert analysis there.   ::)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:11:53 AM
Alabama has 12 of the ESPNu top 150 commited. The rest of the West has 9.

I started a thread about recruiting after the Alabama game and was lambasted. I stand by what I wrote. Bobby Petrino is a GREAT coach but I've yet to see him assemble a staff that looks to be great recruiters. I understand that he doesn't like recruiting, but he needs to hire someone that does. Yeah, we have been in the mix for all this elite talent but our staff really struggles at closing.

We will whiff on DGB, Santos, Peters, Diamond, Goodman, and Gardner. There is no way to positively spin that.

I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 11:14:42 AM
Alabama has 12 of the ESPNu top 150 commited. The rest of the West has 9.

I started a thread about recruiting after the Alabama game and was lambasted. I stand by what I wrote. Bobby Petrino is a GREAT coach but I've yet to see him assemble a staff that looks to be great recruiters. I understand that he doesn't like recruiting, but he needs to hire someone that does. Yeah, we have been in the mix for all this elite talent but our staff really struggles at closing.

We will whiff on DGB, Santos, Peters, Diamond, Goodman, and Gardner. There is no way to positively spin that.

I hope I am wrong.


Please try not to be that guy.  It makes the rest of us Razorback fans look bad.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:18:00 AM

Please try not to be that guy.  It makes the rest of us Razorback fans look bad.
That's what I don't get. Why?

I am not trying to be "that guy". I am just suggesting that as awesome as BMFP is, he might could do well to get some recruiters on this staff.

We obviously want DGB, Neal, Diamond, Peters, Orijke, Santos, and Garnder. Hell, we even get them to campus. We had an incredible recruiting extravaganza lat week filled with pep rallies, 19,050 fans at BWA and TulsaPerv stalking recruits at The Catfish Hole and nary a one commitment has come from it.

Surely I am not the only one who sees this.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
That's what I don't get. Why?

I am not trying to be "that guy". I am just suggesting that as awesome as BMFP is, he might could do well to get some recruiters on this staff.

We obviously want DGB, Neal, Diamond, Peters, Orijke, Santos, and Garnder. Starkville, we even get them to campus. We had an incredible recruiting extravaganza lat week filled with pep rallies, 19,050 fans at BWA and TulsaPerv stalking recruits at The Catfish Hole and nary a one commitment has come from it.

Surely I am not the only one who sees this.


There are probably over 50 schools that want each one of those guys, only one school is going to get him.  In your way of thinking the other 49 schools are failures.

When you go for higher caliber players you run into more competition and are going to have fewer successes.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:29:34 AM

There are probably over 50 schools that want each one of those guys, only one school is going to get him.  In your way of thinking the other 49 schools are failures.

When you go for higher caliber players you run into more competition and are going to have fewer successes.
I suppose that is true.

I also suppose that we all want to win a national championship. I don't think we have a staff that recruits well enough to do that. Yeah, we lost two games this past year but we were rather outclassed IMO. It wasn't anything we did on the field, it was 3 years of signing day catching up to us.

Has our recruiting improved since the new regime? Clearly.
Is our recruiting good enough for a national championship? Hardly.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on January 30, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
We haven't lost to a team outside the top 5 in what...2 or 3 years? I think our talent is doing ok. Everything thinks LSU is the shit because of one great year. They get lucky every year and win on talent alone. We kicked their ass up and down the field in the 4th quarter last year and again in the 1st quarter this year. A couple of crazy punt returns and all of the sudden our team basically quits...and they are "outclassing" us.

You're not the only one who sees this...you're just one of the only ones stupid enough to care what a bunch of nerds rate some high school kids. I'll take a top 5 finish on the field over a top 5 finish in February any time.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 11:36:50 AM
I suppose that is true.

I also suppose that we all want to win a national championship. I don't think we have a staff that recruits well enough to do that. Yeah, we lost two games this past year but we were rather outclassed IMO. It wasn't anything we did on the field, it was 3 years of signing day catching up to us.

Has our recruiting improved since the new regime? Clearly.
Is our recruiting good enough for a national championship? Hardly.

Alabama and LSU have great years where everything comes together for them and it becomes doom and gloom for Arkansas.  Alabama has had great recruiting classes every year Saban has been there, do they win the National championship ever year?  Same for LSU.  These things come in cycles and just because these two teams have transcendent years doesn't mean they're going to win championships year after year after year.  Schedules are a big part, having a team of upperclassmen, injuries, etc have huge impacts on winning titles. 

Next year ARkansas has a ton coming back, our young offensive line will be much improved, our defense looks to be improved just going by the Cotton Bow, and maybe most importantly we get both Bama and LSU at home.

I'm as negative as they come and I think things are great, just relax and enjoy the ride that next few years is going to be.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:38:06 AM

You're not the only one who sees this...you're just one of the only ones stupid enough to care what a bunch of nerds rate some high school kids.
I have never given two shits about stars or rankings of our guys. I mentioned Alabama and the ESPNu Top 150 because Arkansas was in on some of those kids. 

I care about if Arkansas offers a player and then who else has offered. We want the aforementioned.  It doesn't look like we will get them. It appears to be a trend that has apparently started in 2013 as well.

I don't care if DGB is a 2 or a 5 star. We rolled out the red carpet for him and it is board sentiment that this would be the most logical place for him. Doesn't appear that he will be coming. Yeah, I am disappointed.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 30, 2012, 11:39:17 AM
I tend to look at where the classes are re ranked...  Bobby's normally seem to do ok in that respect. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 11:42:00 AM

I don't care if DGB is a 2 or a 5 star. We rolled out the red carpet for him and it is board sentiment that this would be the most logical place for him. Doesn't appear that he will be coming. Yeah, I am disappointed.

Apparently Texas, Oklahoma, and Alabama aren't getting him either and I can promise they rolled out the red carpet for him as well.  Do those programs suck? 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on January 30, 2012, 11:43:19 AM
I understand that he doesn't like recruiting

You got a source on this, because it's pretty much the foundation of your argument and I think you're full of shit on it.

Back up this assertion or pick something else to blather on about.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
Apparently Texas, Oklahoma, and Alabama aren't getting him either and I can promise they rolled out the red carpet for him as well.  Do those programs suck?
No they don't but Texas is taking Santos, OU is taking Gardner and Bama is taking Altee Tenpenny. Who did we get that was offered by those schools?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cobbler on January 30, 2012, 11:45:03 AM
I suppose that is true.

I also suppose that we all want to win a national championship. I don't think we have a staff that recruits well enough to do that. Yeah, we lost two games this past year but we were rather outclassed IMO. It wasn't anything we did on the field, it was 3 years of signing day catching up to us.

Has our recruiting improved since the new regime? Clearly.
Is our recruiting good enough for a national championship? Hardly.

You'd fit in well with the Rivals crowd. Never seen a group of weeping gashes like they have over there. We had our best season in over 30 years and have improved each year since Petrino arrived, yet half that board seems ready to turn on him because his recruiting isn't living up to their own expectations.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:45:52 AM
You got a source on this, because it's pretty much the foundation of your argument and I think you're full of shit on it.

Back up this assertion or pick something else to blather on about.
Point taken. I don't. Pure speculation on my part.

I don't think it is the foundation of my argument though. My foundation is that it is of my opinion that our near misses in recruiting don't seem to be getting corrected and until they do we won't win a national championship.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 30, 2012, 11:46:03 AM
No they don't but Texas is taking Santos, OU is taking Gardner and Bama is taking Altee Tenpenny. Who did we get that was offered by those schools?

OU is not "taking" Gardner...in fact, I will be surprised if you see him in college.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:46:40 AM
You'd fit in well with the Rivals crowd. Never seen a group of weeping gashes like they have over there. We had our best season in over 30 years and have improved each year since Petrino arrived, yet half that board seems ready to turn on him because his recruiting isn't living up to their own expectations.
Motherfuck. Nobody is ready to turn on Petrino. I also don't think questioning his recruiting is beyond reproach.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 30, 2012, 11:46:55 AM
No they don't but Texas is taking Santos, OU is taking Gardner and Bama is taking Altee Tenpenny. Who did we get that was offered by those schools?

Fine, go ahead and panic.  Bobby Petrino sucks at recruiting and Arkansas will never compete with him at the helm.  We're doomed.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:47:05 AM
OU is not "taking" Gardner...in fact, I will be surprised if you see him in college.
Oh please, do tell.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cobbler on January 30, 2012, 11:48:21 AM
No they don't but Texas is taking Santos, OU is taking Gardner and Bama is taking Altee Tenpenny. Who did we get that was offered by those schools?

Santos is from Texas. Gardner can't get into the SEC. Altee Tenpenny is signing next year, so Alabama hasn't exactly "taken" him yet.

And Donovan Roberts was offered by Oklahoma, no matter how much they want to deny it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:49:23 AM
Fine, go ahead and panic.  Bobby Petrino sucks at recruiting and Arkansas will never compete with him at the helm.  We're doomed.
Look, nobody is panicking (at least not me). I don't believe Petrino sucks at recruiting.

You don't go the Sugar Bowl or win the Cotton Bowl with sucky recruiting. I am merely stating we aren't on the level of some other programs in our conference. We are able to overcome that with our superb coach but when you have a superb coach and a great recruiter (Alabama for example) then it is difficult for us to compete unless we hit on some of the near misses. For fucks sake people.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on January 30, 2012, 11:49:44 AM
That's what I don't get. Why?

I am not trying to be "that guy". I am just suggesting that as awesome as BMFP is, he might could do well to get some recruiters on this staff.

We obviously want DGB, Neal, Diamond, Peters, Orijke, Santos, and Garnder. Starkville, we even get them to campus. We had an incredible recruiting extravaganza lat week filled with pep rallies, 19,050 fans at BWA and TulsaPerv stalking recruits at The Catfish Hole and nary a one commitment has come from it.

Surely I am not the only one who sees this.

Sorry, but you're already "that guy" who freaks out over what a few 17 year olds decide to do for the next 3-4 years. I seem to remember that this staff has done a pretty decent job of developing the players they DO get. Whether or not we get DGB and/or some of the others on the list wiil NOT make this class a complete bust, but there will be quite a gew such as yourself who will be screaming that from the mountaintops if that happens.

Seems to me that the recruiting class from 4 years ago was rated pretty low and yet we got a couple of 10 win seasons out of that group at a time when LSU and Alabama are PEAKING. I tend to think that maybe our coaching staff might know just a little bit more about how to recruit and develop players than I, you, or the doofs at Rivals or ESPN do. That's just me, though. Freak away if you must. ::)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:53:39 AM
Santos is from Texas. Gardner can't get into the SEC.

And Donovan Roberts was offered by Oklahoma, no matter how much they want to deny it.

1. Tenpenny is from Arkansas.
2. If Gardner can't get into the SEC then why the fuck did we offer him? Is this just a revelation this weekend after his OU visit?
3. I'll only believe Roberts was offered by OU if Duckman's wife's set of knockers say so.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hoggadore on January 30, 2012, 11:55:53 AM
No they don't but Texas is taking Santos, OU is taking Gardner and Bama is taking Altee Tenpenny. Who did we get that was offered by those schools?

Brey Cook, Quinta Funderburke, Mitch Smothers, Lonnie Gosha all got offers from Alabama. Tevin Mitchell and Austin Flynn got offers from OU.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:56:31 AM
Sorry, but you're already "that guy" who freaks out over what a few 17 year olds decide to do for the next 3-4 years. I seem to remember that this staff has done a pretty decent job of developing the players they DO get. Whether or not we get DGB and/or some of the others on the list wiil NOT make this class a complete bust, but there will be quite a gew such as yourself who will be screaming that from the mountaintops if that happens.

Seems to me that the recruiting class from 4 years ago was rated pretty low and yet we got a couple of 10 win seasons out of that group at a time when LSU and Alabama are PEAKING. I tend to think that maybe our coaching staff might know just a little bit more about how to recruit and develop players than I, you, or the doofs at Rivals or ESPN do. That's just me, though. Freak away if you must. ::)
This class is not a bust. How the hell would anyone know if it was a bust after signing day anyway? Please review my posting history. We were lead to believe that Arkansas was in the lead at one point for many of those mentioned in this thread. Now as signing day approaches we probably aren't.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
Brey Cook, Quinta Funderburke, Mitch Smothers, Lonnie Gosha all got offers from Alabama. Tevin Mitchell and Austin Flynn got offers from OU.
Good point. I have high hopes for all except Gosha.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 30, 2012, 11:59:05 AM
That's it for me in this thread. Go Hogs. By the way, big game tomorrow night at BWA.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TravelHog on January 30, 2012, 12:00:23 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2RD8xxK-JJc/TXbzPhI7zzI/AAAAAAAAPDA/NsO8qCSfACc/Iraqi%252520Information%252520Minister.jpg)

There's still 2 days until NSD. Everyone needs to chill and look at some tig ole bitties in the meantime.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on January 30, 2012, 12:07:12 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2RD8xxK-JJc/TXbzPhI7zzI/AAAAAAAAPDA/NsO8qCSfACc/Iraqi%252520Information%252520Minister.jpg)

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 30, 2012, 12:12:32 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2RD8xxK-JJc/TXbzPhI7zzI/AAAAAAAAPDA/NsO8qCSfACc/Iraqi%252520Information%252520Minister.jpg)

There's still 2 days until NSD. Everyone needs to chill and look at some tig ole bitties in the meantime.

See: Duckman, Recruiting Forum
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on January 30, 2012, 12:27:43 PM
nm

Sent from hoggly's mom's room
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 30, 2012, 12:33:18 PM
In wake of the Gardner flip, anyone heard word on whether we're going to save a scholly for Davonte Neal?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on January 30, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
Seems to me that the recruiting class from 4 years ago was rated pretty low and yet we got a couple of 10 win seasons out of that group at a time when LSU and Alabama are PEAKING. I tend to think that maybe our coaching staff might know just a little bit more about how to recruit and develop players than I, you, or the doofs at Rivals or ESPN do. That's just me, though. Freak away if you must. ::)

Personally, I'm not sure I give a shit what the recruiting services 'rank' our recruiting class or anyone else's, but for anyone who does care, ESPN thinks pretty highly of that 2008 class now.  After they've actually played football in college.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7473214/alabama-crimson-tide-prove-had-nation-top-class-2008 (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7473214/alabama-crimson-tide-prove-had-nation-top-class-2008)

Here's the text from #6 on their list:

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Many of the key contributors to the Razorbacks' 11-win season this fall came from this class, highlighted by quarterback Tyler Wilson, who threw for over 3,500 yards, the versatile Joe Adams, who returned four punts for TDs, and Jarius Wright, who led the team in receiving with 66 grabs and 12 touchdowns. It wasn't all offense in this class, however, as the Razorbacks also signed safety Tramain Thomas, who led the team in interceptions in 2011, and talented linebacker Jerico Nelson.

I'm not sure where we were at the time on the list, but tOSU was #6 originally, and we were outside the top 10.  Likely outside the top 20 or 25.  These rankings really don't mean shit, and neither does Grit's opinion on Rivals.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: JoeBobHog on January 30, 2012, 12:47:09 PM
Personally, I'm not sure I give a shit what the recruiting services 'rank' our recruiting class or anyone else's, but for anyone who does care, ESPN thinks pretty highly of that 2008 class now.  After they've actually played football in college.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7473214/alabama-crimson-tide-prove-had-nation-top-class-2008 (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7473214/alabama-crimson-tide-prove-had-nation-top-class-2008)

Here's the text from #6 on their list:

I'm not sure where we were at the time on the list, but tOSU was #6 originally, and we were outside the top 10.  Likely outside the top 20 or 25.  These rankings really don't mean shit, and neither does Grit's opinion on Rivals.


pretty sure I saw where we were #36 that year.


in fact, this link says we averaged #31 over the last 5 years, and our best finish was 16th in 2009.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=ArhqTLrCCY5J4hFTutH3H7YcvrYF?slug=mh-huguenin_how_top_teams_fared_recruiting_012912




 :notexas:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on January 30, 2012, 12:51:11 PM

pretty sure I saw where we were #36 that year.



 :notexas:

Not a bad improvement, huh?  I'm looking forward to seeing some of those mediocre guys from last year's class put on the pads and show us what a year of redshirting can do for the average 18-year-old.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on January 30, 2012, 01:01:52 PM
I like recruiting a lot but I could do without the constant back and forth mood swings and hysteria.  It is almost like you have to fear people in Missouri, Texas or Arkansas throwing themselves out of office windows on Wednesday morning at 9:30. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 30, 2012, 01:09:29 PM
Peters
Diamond
Gregory
DGB

That would calm some folks down.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sliver72 on January 30, 2012, 02:01:40 PM
Motherfuck. Nobody is ready to turn on Petrino. I also don't think questioning his recruiting is beyond reproach.
Not unless we've had four straight seasons of ending the season in the shitter and consistently losing to ULM.


None of this has happened...so yeah, your questioning of The Petrino is kind of off base there, sir.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 30, 2012, 02:40:45 PM
Peters
Diamond
Gregory
DGB

That would calm some folks down.

Even that.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 30, 2012, 02:48:39 PM
Even that.

Peters
Diamond
Jacobs
are bigger needs.  DGB Bigger splash.

We have 4 spots from what I gather.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 30, 2012, 02:59:41 PM
Peters
Diamond
Jacobs
are bigger needs.  DGB Bigger splash.

We have 4 spots from what I gather.

Yeah, I just meant those two in particular.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on January 30, 2012, 04:03:55 PM
No they don't but Texas is taking Santos, OU is taking Gardner and Bama is taking Altee Tenpenny. Who did we get that was offered by those schools?

Quit yer bitchin.

Santos has been a  :notexas: fan his whole life.  Of course he's going to go there when he gets an offer.

Courtney Gardner may not qualify to play in the SEC right away.  That's why he may end up at OU.

Altee Tenpenny did not grow up an Arkansas fan, and he's just a junior anyway. 

Who has ever recruited better than Petrino at Arkansas?  Houston Nutt?  Danny Ford?

You know his 2008 class was just reranked 6th? 

What do you want him to do?  Arkansas isn't exactly filled with lots of talent like Lousiana, Texas, or Florida.

Quit bitching about recruiting. 

For god sakes signing day hasn't even happened and you're all upset about who we didn't get.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: PorkRyan on January 30, 2012, 04:35:41 PM
player development>recruiting

unfortunately Nick Saban is about the only coach who is really good at both.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on January 30, 2012, 04:41:18 PM
player development>recruiting

unfortunately Nick Saban is about the only coach who is really good at both.
He's also coached at two of the easiest to recruit schools in the country. Funny how he wasn't quite as good of a recruiter at MSU as he was at LSU or Bama. Trade him and Petrino and I bet Petrino is bringing in top recruiting classes just the same.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on January 30, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
player development>recruiting

unfortunately Nick Saban is about the only coach who is really good at both
.

I'm not even sure he's that great at player development.  He's just an outstanding coach and an excellent recruiter (shouldn't be hard considering where he's been).  But when he constantly reloads, that makes me put more of an emphasis on his coaching/recruiting.  How much does he have to develop? Plug 5* A into hole left by 5* B. Rinse. Repeat.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: IH8LSU on January 30, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
What a bunch of Negative Nancies.

Anybody know TV coverage of signees? Channel, time, etc.?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 30, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
What a bunch of Negative Nancies.

Anybody know TV coverage of signees? Channel, time, etc.?

ESPU pretty much all day.

GFY.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TUSK_U on January 30, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
That's what I don't get. Why?

I am not trying to be "that guy". I am just suggesting that as awesome as BMFP is, he might could do well to get some recruiters on this staff.


We obviously want DGB, Neal, Diamond, Peters, Orijke, Santos, and Garnder. Hell, we even get them to campus. We had an incredible recruiting extravaganza lat week filled with pep rallies, 19,050 fans at BWA and TulsaPerv stalking recruits at The Catfish Hole and nary a one commitment has come from it.

Surely I am not the only one who sees this.

Neal Diamond?  I thought he spelled his name Neil?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 30, 2012, 11:46:42 PM
Anyone a 247 VIP?:

http://247sports.com/Article/New-SEC-school-in-the-mix-59295
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on January 30, 2012, 11:50:35 PM
Anyone a 247 VIP?:

http://247sports.com/Article/New-SEC-school-in-the-mix-59295

It's this guy and Hogville Lite is already complaining non-stop:
http://www.razorbacktalk.com/board/index.php?topic=58772.0
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 12:06:53 AM
It's this guy and Hogville Lite is already complaining non-stop:
http://www.razorbacktalk.com/board/index.php?topic=58772.0

It's requiring me to log in.  :nazi:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 05:58:31 AM
Anyone a 247 VIP?:

http://247sports.com/Article/New-SEC-school-in-the-mix-59295

A new SEC school has jumped into the race for this sleeper wide receiver from Fayetteville (Ark.) and it’s a potential game changer.


“I’m going to sign Wednesday at 3p.m,” Brad Culp explained. “But I’m not sure who I’m going to sign with because Arkansas might still be offering me.

“I got a call from coach (Bobby) Allen (Monday). He said they would let me know by Wednesday morning if they were going to offer.”

Culp had previously been offered and visited Ole Miss and North Carolina and thought his decision was just going to come down to those two schools.

“(Arkansas) hasn’t offered but they said they lost two receivers today,” Culp explained. “(Allen) said they evaluated me today and watched all my film. I’m supposed to know either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning if I’ll have an offer.

“I’ve visited Arkansas a number of times.”

So is it a foregone conclusion that Culp will sign with the hometown Razorbacks if he gets the offer?

“I couldn’t say that. I’m honestly not sure…I’m confused on where I’m going to go. I’ll have a choice by Wednesday.”


Jon Leggette is a senior writer for CarolinaBlue
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: papermill on January 31, 2012, 06:53:13 AM
I like recruiting a lot but I could do without the constant back and forth mood swings and hysteria.  It is almost like you have to fear people in Missouri, Texas or Arkansas throwing themselves out of office windows on Wednesday morning at 9:30.

good thing we don't have as many tall buildings as those other places
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on January 31, 2012, 07:01:46 AM
One more long long long day away folks. Keep up the positive vibes...all will be ok.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on January 31, 2012, 07:19:37 AM
A new SEC school has jumped into the race for this sleeper wide receiver from Fayetteville (Ark.) and it’s a potential game changer.


“I’m going to sign Wednesday at 3p.m,” Brad Culp explained. “But I’m not sure who I’m going to sign with because Arkansas might still be offering me.

“I got a call from coach (Bobby) Allen (Monday). He said they would let me know by Wednesday morning if they were going to offer.”

Culp had previously been offered and visited Ole Miss and North Carolina and thought his decision was just going to come down to those two schools.

“(Arkansas) hasn’t offered but they said they lost two receivers today,” Culp explained. “(Allen) said they evaluated me today and watched all my film. I’m supposed to know either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning if I’ll have an offer.

“I’ve visited Arkansas a number of times.”

So is it a foregone conclusion that Culp will sign with the hometown Razorbacks if he gets the offer?

“I couldn’t say that. I’m honestly not sure…I’m confused on where I’m going to go. I’ll have a choice by Wednesday.”


Jon Leggette is a senior writer for CarolinaBlue

Our DGB backup plan?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on January 31, 2012, 09:32:59 AM
Our DGB backup plan?

No...just more local journalism at it's finest. We are fine...see the day is nearly 9 1/2/24ths done.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 31, 2012, 09:34:55 AM
No...just more local journalism at it's finest. We are fine...see the day is nearly 9 1/2/24ths done.

That is from a Chapel Hill writer


/eases back out of thread
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TheOtherWhiteMeat on January 31, 2012, 09:54:20 AM
My sources tell me there will be big news tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on January 31, 2012, 10:00:19 AM
My sources tell me there will be big news tomorrow.
Keep Hope Alive.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 31, 2012, 10:20:21 AM

Anyone else hearing there may or may not be some suprises tomorrow? 

You can't get this stuff for free.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on January 31, 2012, 10:20:57 AM
My sources tell me there will be big news tomorrow.

Since tomorrow isn't Tuesday I am full of skepticism.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 10:29:17 AM
Somebody go dumpster diving for Truth. He usually* nails these sorts of predictions.


*there was the one "Mitch and Damien are both locked up" prediction, but really other than that he never....really...did much.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogggdadi on January 31, 2012, 10:32:09 AM
Somebody go dumpster diving for Truth. He usually* nails these sorts of predictions.


*there was the one "Mitch and Damien are both locked up" prediction, but really other than that he never....really...did much.

You little Jimmy's need to settle down. 

(http://www.wwe.com/f/imagecache/686x384_scale_plain/talent/bio/2011/03/bio-rtruth.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 10:34:14 AM
You little Jimmy's need to settle down. 

(http://www.wwe.com/f/imagecache/686x384_scale_plain/talent/bio/2011/03/bio-rtruth.jpg)

There might be 9 people who get this reference.  2 of them may admit to it.


TCT is one of the two.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogggdadi on January 31, 2012, 10:38:07 AM
It's very slow on the tee vee's since football is over with.  Let everyone outside of the nine guess. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 10:41:18 AM
A new SEC school has jumped into the race for this sleeper wide receiver from Fayetteville (Ark.) and it’s a potential game changer.


“I’m going to sign Wednesday at 3p.m,” Brad Culp explained. “But I’m not sure who I’m going to sign with because Arkansas might still be offering me.

“I got a call from coach (Bobby) Allen (Monday). He said they would let me know by Wednesday morning if they were going to offer.”

Culp had previously been offered and visited Ole Miss and North Carolina and thought his decision was just going to come down to those two schools.

“(Arkansas) hasn’t offered but they said they lost two receivers today,” Culp explained. “(Allen) said they evaluated me today and watched all my film. I’m supposed to know either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning if I’ll have an offer.

“I’ve visited Arkansas a number of times.”

So is it a foregone conclusion that Culp will sign with the hometown Razorbacks if he gets the offer?

“I couldn’t say that. I’m honestly not sure…I’m confused on where I’m going to go. I’ll have a choice by Wednesday.”


Jon Leggette is a senior writer for CarolinaBlue

Thanks.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TravelHog on January 31, 2012, 10:42:12 AM
Unfortunately I get the rasslin' reference too.  :-[
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Nukinhawg on January 31, 2012, 11:22:28 AM
There might be 9 people who get this reference.  2 of them may admit to it.


TCT is one of the two.

Guess that mkes me #2 3
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on January 31, 2012, 11:41:51 AM
That is from a Chapel Hill writer


/eases back out of thread

Well clearly I meant North America when I said "Local".
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 12:25:04 PM
Apparently a lot of that is coming from the kid himself.  He is hoping to get an offer and what was conveyed to him was that IF two WR's fell through, we will evaluate his tape.  Sounds like he may be drumming up some interest for himself to a NC writer.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 31, 2012, 12:52:40 PM
So the only thing I saw in this thread that even resembles evidence that DGB might not be coming here is the Fayetteville kid's quote.

Anything else is pure speculation.  And Petrino was in DGB's home yesterday, right?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 31, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
Anything else is pure speculation.  And Petrino was in DGB's home yesterday, right?
No.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Biff Malibu on January 31, 2012, 01:03:16 PM
No.

They talked on the phone though...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 01:27:25 PM
So guy that loves raccoons thinks this... 21 commitments.
22-- They want DGB. If they can get him that is their other WR. If he tells them no I have been told they will turn to Javon Williams.
23-- Jordan Diamond gets first shot at OT. If no Diamond expect them to move on Joe Warburg
24-- Seth Jacobs. They want him to the other safety in this class. If no Jacobs, maybe Humes.
25-- It could be Gary Simon, Otha Peters (probably going to UT), Reggie Northrup (not coming), Chris Humes, Robert Gregory ? or maybe one of the others we had in the Offense and defense stories yesterday.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 01:54:40 PM
Meanwhile, up yonder.

http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/missouri-tigers.php?message=9348002

An Open Letter to Mizzou Fans: Understanding Arkansas Fans

Ok:
 
I've seen several posts on here about Arkansas and their fans. Because I grew up in N.W. Arkansas (note: wasn't born there), I wanted to give some insight into the psyche of the Razorback faithful.

Full disclosure: I grew up watching Ark b-ball and f-ball and still consider myself a fan. But being a Mizzou Alum, I will cheer on Mizzou over Arkansas any day.
 
Arkansas had good success in the SWC, competing with the likes of Texas, SMU, etc., and would have been considered a top-tier program back then. They claim 13 SWC championships and a share of the 1964 National Championship with Alabama. However, they were always considered unwelcomed outsiders by the rest of the Texas league, even with their success.
 
Arkansas football, since its move to the SEC has been always classified as a middle to low tier program. Arkansas basketball had some great seasons, won a NC in 1994 and played again the following year in the N.C. to UCLA (Tyus Edney anyone?).
 
Recent history is different, however. The older fans still cling to the old SWC football days and consider the team a traditional power (this is not true). Younger fans remember the 80s and early 90s dominance in basketball and think it is easily achievable again (again, a faulty assumption).
 
All fans know of the recent failures of the basketball teams coached by Stan Heath and John Pelphrey. Both recruited well but never delivered and were in over their heads with fan expectations. Another black mark on the program was when Creighton coach Dana Altman accepted the head job, gave a press conference and called the hogs awkwardly, and then reneged the next day. At the time, the fans couldn't seem to figure out why no "Top Tier" coaches wanted to coach at Arkansas.

Now, the move to bring back Mike Anderson has excited the fans and has made them nostalgic for the "40 min of Hell" that Nolan Richardson brought. By plugging in CMA, Arkansas fans believe that he too can bring them to the promise land like Nolan did (don't think so but time will tell).
 
Football, until recently, has had some very long seasons as well. The tenure of Danny Ford failed. The Houston Nutt experiment fractured the fan base, too. Nutt endured some reasonable success, but never delivered when he was suppose to win and kept his job by winning when he wasn't supposed to. He had some decent success (won a couple SEC West titles), but most will agree that he was continually out-coached and out-recruited on the big stage and was stubborn to change his offense. It took him years to turn over play calling duties, and when he did, he undermined his OCs at every opportunity. He would take credit for the good calls, laid blame to others for the bad ones.
 
Then came Nutt’s undoing: He hires a local h.s. coach by the name of Gus Malzahn who literally wrote the book on the spread offense. This move secured the services of Parade All-American QB Mitch Mustain and several top-tier receivers (including Damian Williams). Prior to this move, Nutt was considered on the hot seat after another underperforming season with Felix Jones (Cowboys), Darrin McFadden (Raiders), and Peyton Hillis (Browns) all in the backfield.
 
The coach butts heads with his new OC and benches Mustain after he started 7-0 for the season. Long story short: Mustain isn't happy and gets his mother involved, an Arkansas booster and a friend of Nutt's sends a strongly worded email to Mustain, a FOIA is put in to obtain Nutt's cell phone records that show hundreds of phone calls and texts to a local female news anchor (implying infidelity). At the end of the season, Arkansas upsets LSU in OT, the Chancellor tries to extend Nutt's contract b/c he won the last game, and Nutt bolts parlays his last win into a new job at Ole Miss. The Chancellor is fired and a new AD comes into to replace the legendary Frank Broyles.
 
Jeff Long (from Pitt) makes a splash and hires NFL Coach Bobby Petrino. Although the national media skewers Arkansas for hiring a nomadic coach who bolted from the Falcons, I always felt it was a great hire and CBP would soon have Arkansas on the national stage. Within a few short years, CBP has turned the program around and has them contending very well.
 
This football success has helped Arkansas fans to puff out their collective chests. What I find interesting is the response of Ark fans as it relates to Mizzou and its move to the SEC. The recent success has disillusioned them into forgetting their recent past and has them thinking they are "above" the caliber of Mizzou and are part of the cream of the crop of the SEC. Don't be tricked. The feelings are really founded in the embarrassment during the Nutt years, the inferiority complex created during the SWC days, and the desire to be accepted at the "cool kids table" of the SEC.
 
Remind them of the scoreboard (38-7) and they will probably talk about recruits they got from Missouri. Talk about Mizzou bball success and they will bring up Matt Painter.

So remember: when Arkansas fans start talking smack remind them of their past, congratulate them on their very recent football success, and tell them that they, just like every other SEC team, rides the coat tails of the top tier programs in the conference and they, just like Mizzou, are not one yet but are working to be there.

Armed with the knowledge I've outlined will help you in your dealings with Hog fans.
 
M-I-Z...S-E-C!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Guardrail on January 31, 2012, 02:13:50 PM
 
This football success has helped Arkansas fans to puff out their collective chests. What I find interesting is the response of Ark fans as it relates to Mizzou and its move to the SEC. The recent success has disillusioned them into forgetting their recent past and has them thinking they are "above" the caliber of Mizzou and are part of the cream of the crop of the SEC. Don't be tricked. 
 
M-I-Z...S-E-C!
So their comeback is "38-7"? OK Scooter. And the "part of the cream of the crop of the SEC"? Yeah, finishing as one of 3 in the SEC out of top 5 in the nation will do that to you. Oh, this next football season will be glorious. What a smarmy LOLMiss-esque doosh.

Watching them in conference play next season will be like watching Pvt Pyle in the first 30 minutes of Full Metal Jacket. Somebody needs to start a LOL MO thread to track the wailing and gnashing of teeth. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
blahblah
 
M-I-Z...S-E-C!

Some of this is true.  Some of it is factually incorrect (his timeline with the Jeff Long hire and the Houston Nutt departure for example), and some is just homerish spin, which is tolerable since fans are supposed to be homers to an extent.

I think his point is this:

Arkansas was once a good team in an good conference, then jumped ship to a great conference and proceeded to more of less suck until now. Mizzou was a good team in a good conference, and now has jumped ship to a great conference and will proceed to suck until some indeterminate time in the future when they will no longer suck.

I think that's his point, but if so, it begs the question: Who will be their Bobby Petrino to rescue them from sucking?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on January 31, 2012, 02:23:23 PM
Some of this is true.  Some of it is factually incorrect (his timeline with the Jeff Long hire and the Hootie departure for example), and some is just homerish spin, which is tolerable since fans are supposed to be homers to an extent.

I think his point is this:

Arkansas was once a good team in an good conference, then jumped ship to a great conference and proceeded to more of less suck until now. Mizzou was a good team in a good conference, and now has jumped ship to a great conference and will proceed to suck until some indeterminate time in the future when they will no longer suck.

I think that's his point, but if so, it begs the question: Who will be their Bobby Petrino to rescue them from sucking?

Sounds like a call for a certain someone interested in People Helpin if I ever heard one.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 02:25:27 PM
Sounds like a call for a certain someone interested in People Helpin if I ever heard one.

Oh MAN. That'd be pure awesomeness.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on January 31, 2012, 02:26:43 PM
Some of this is true.  Some of it is factually incorrect (his timeline with the Jeff Long hire and the Houston Nutt departure for example), and some is just homerish spin, which is tolerable since fans are supposed to be homers to an extent.

I think his point is this:

Arkansas was once a good team in an good conference, then jumped ship to a great conference and proceeded to more of less suck until now. Mizzou was a good team in a good conference, and now has jumped ship to a great conference and will proceed to suck until some indeterminate time in the future when they will no longer suck.

I think that's his point, but if so, it begs the question: Who will be their Bobby Petrino, rabid fan-base, Wal-Mart, Tyson, et. al. to rescue them from sucking?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FayettenamHog on January 31, 2012, 02:29:27 PM
Remind them of the scoreboard (38-7) and they will probably talk about recruits they got from Missouri. Talk about Mizzou bball success and they will bring up Matt Painter. 

Actually, I wouldn't bring up Painter. I'd simply point to the fact they've never even been to a Final 4.

And crowing about beating us in the Cotton Bowl is very Ole Miss-ish...which they should get used to.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 31, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
He hires a local h.s. coach by the name of Gus Malzahn who literally wrote the book on the spread offense.

the fuck?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: shortstop6 on January 31, 2012, 02:36:38 PM
Remind them of the scoreboard (38-7) and they will probably talk about recruits they got from Missouri. Talk about Mizzou bball success and they will bring up Matt Painter.

So remember: when Arkansas fans start talking smack remind them of their past, congratulate them on their very recent football success, and tell them that they, just like every other SEC team, rides the coat tails of the top tier programs in the conference and they, just like Mizzou, are not one yet but are working to be there.

Armed with the knowledge I've outlined will help you in your dealings with Hog fans.
 
M-I-Z...S-E-C!

Translation:

We may suck, but you had a stretch where you sucked, too, and we kicked your ass in that one game after you shitcanned your coach who even we now recognize was no damned good so ignore all the current evidence and don't act like you're better than us even though you are.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on January 31, 2012, 02:37:28 PM
Actually, I wouldn't bring up Painter. I'd simply point to the fact they've never even been to a Final 4.

And crowing about beating us in the Cotton Bowl is very Ole Miss-ish...which they should get used to.
Yeah, that guy is pretty comical. I forgot about Painter, I just think it's funny they are ready for us to fail with the coach they wanted and also the coach that built their current team.

I also think it's funny they are proud of that cotton bowl, we just beat them in a bowl a couple of years before that. Which is sad because Houston sucked in bowls but Mizzou was one of only 2 that he won.

They haven't won a conference championship since 1969, in the 90s they are talking about they were happy to go 7-5 in 1996 because it ended a 12 year drought of winning seasons.

I actually had more respect for Missouri athletics until I looked up what they had done in football and basketball and the facts proved they have sucked for a long, long time.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: PorkRyan on January 31, 2012, 02:37:49 PM
Otha Peters is a Razorback.

http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-8682208888218914670/covington-lb-otha-peters-switches-football-commitment-to-arkansas/
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 31, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
Otha Peters is a Razorback.

http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-8682208888218914670/covington-lb-otha-peters-switches-football-commitment-to-arkansas/
This staff can straight recruit. Nobody closes like Petrino and this staff.

 :shocker:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogggdadi on January 31, 2012, 03:00:00 PM
Sounds like a call for a certain someone interested in People Helpin if I ever heard one.

LoL Miss < LoL Mizz
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on January 31, 2012, 03:05:26 PM
I prefer the MIZ-LOL format myself.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 31, 2012, 03:08:02 PM
Otha Peters is a Razorback.

http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-8682208888218914670/covington-lb-otha-peters-switches-football-commitment-to-arkansas/

If true, this is a crushing blow to Volnation.  Their message board had a 130 page thread on just him on the recruiting board.  It blew up 15 pages in the last 30 minutes.

And not one person posted pics of his wifes titties.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on January 31, 2012, 03:12:44 PM
This staff can straight recruit. Nobody closes like Petrino and this staff.

 :shocker:

iswydt
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 03:24:52 PM
_BlakeEddins Blake Eddins
Im not sure which school has lost more BIG recruits/commits in the last month Tennessee OR Missouri? Not good for eithers future in the SEC
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on January 31, 2012, 03:35:21 PM
Volnation and SEC Rant are high comedy right now.  Vols have gone from enraged to just admitted how bad they are now.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Biff Malibu on January 31, 2012, 03:48:46 PM
_BlakeEddins Blake Eddins
Im not sure which school has lost more BIG recruits/commits in the last month Tennessee OR Missouri? Not good for eithers future in the SEC

He's such a dick....and I love him for it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on January 31, 2012, 04:31:01 PM
Someone gonna lock this mother bitch down for the big day?
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luy0vnlihr1qln825o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on January 31, 2012, 04:31:54 PM
Otha Peters is a Razorback.

http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-8682208888218914670/covington-lb-otha-peters-switches-football-commitment-to-arkansas/

According to Rivals, Otha is the #6 rated inside linebacker and the #126 overall recruit in the nation. 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Otha-Peters-125603

Hells yeah bitches.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on January 31, 2012, 04:48:32 PM
According to Rivals, Otha is the #6 rated inside linebacker and the #126 overall recruit in the nation. 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Otha-Peters-125603

Hells yeah bitches.

Then why is he rated 3*? This is why recruiting rankings drive me crazy.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HipHog on January 31, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
Then why is he rated 3*? This is why recruiting rankings drive me crazy.
*4 star on other sites...who cares
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 04:50:22 PM
Otha Peters is a Razorback.

http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-8682208888218914670/covington-lb-otha-peters-switches-football-commitment-to-arkansas/

(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/kip_yes.gif)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 04:57:44 PM
So, three spots left now?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on January 31, 2012, 05:05:40 PM
So, three spots left now?

Three spots, like 12 stars.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 31, 2012, 05:07:34 PM

I knew a girl with 3 spots one time.

I liked to do them all.   :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sliver72 on January 31, 2012, 05:10:14 PM
I knew a girl with 3 spots one time.

I liked to do them all.   :thumbdown:
So did everyone else. You weren't as special as she told you.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on January 31, 2012, 05:11:49 PM
So did everyone else. You weren't as special as she told you.

I taught her how to do that thing you liked so much.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on January 31, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
I taught her how to do that thing you liked so much.

You pickle ticklers are fucked up.  There's no half-way to homo fellas.

nttawwt.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on January 31, 2012, 05:27:55 PM
Then why is he rated 3*? This is why recruiting rankings drive me crazy.

Click the link again.  He's a 4* on Rivals.   :beer:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on January 31, 2012, 05:52:44 PM
Can you imagine having the luxury of having in-state players like Peters, and not even offering them because you've already got a cupboard full of supposedly superior players? LSU should play in the BCSNG at least every other year, simply based on talent alone.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on January 31, 2012, 07:42:17 PM
The Fighting Halzahns lost a qb today, dude chose Kentucky instead.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 07:57:07 PM
The Fighting Halzahns lost a qb today, dude chose Kentucky instead.
Not Fighten' Freddy Knighten'??
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on January 31, 2012, 08:00:57 PM
Not Fighten' Freddy Knighten'??

It's on espnU ticker, didn't catch the name.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on January 31, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
Not Fighten' Freddy Knighten'??


No, some guy from Alabama named Jalen Whitlow.

http://www.nationofblue.com/f3/3-star-qb-commits-kentucky-14593/ (http://www.nationofblue.com/f3/3-star-qb-commits-kentucky-14593/)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
So we may finish with:
5* WR
4* Top OT
4* Top S
4* Top OLB

That would be the best I have ever seen us finish
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 08:36:07 PM
So we may finish with:
5* WR
4* Top OT
4* Top S
4* Top OLB

That would be the best I have ever seen us finish

2006?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 08:43:14 PM
2006?

Mitch 5*
Freddie Barnett 4*
Van Stumon 4*
Damien Williams 4

Whole lotta 2* in that class.  WHOLE lot. 7 Actually
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogggdadi on January 31, 2012, 08:49:00 PM
Mitch 5*
Freddie Barnett 4*
Van Stumon 4*
Damien Williams 4

Whole lotta 2* in that class.  WHOLE lot. 7 Actually

& a head coach that handcuffed the OC that just won a NC last year. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on January 31, 2012, 08:53:36 PM
It's on espnU ticker, didn't catch the name.
And just got a QB from La Tech Dez Stegall from Searcy
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on January 31, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
So we may finish with:
5* WR
4* Top OT
4* Top S
4* Top OLB

That would be the best I have ever seen us finish
:beer:

Alabama has 12 of the ESPNu top 150 commited. The rest of the West has 9.

I started a thread about recruiting after the Alabama game and was lambasted. I stand by what I wrote. Bobby Petrino is a GREAT coach but I've yet to see him assemble a staff that looks to be great recruiters. I understand that he doesn't like recruiting, but he needs to hire someone that does. Yeah, we have been in the mix for all this elite talent but our staff really struggles at closing.

We will whiff on DGB, Santos, Peters, Diamond, Goodman, and Gardner. There is no way to positively spin that.

I hope I am wrong.

Are you still bleeding?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on January 31, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
Translation:

We may suck, but you had a stretch where you sucked, too, and we kicked your ass in that one game after you shitcanned your coach who even we now recognize was no damned good so ignore all the current evidence and don't act like you're better than us even though you are.
 

MU isn't worth our time. Their football history in the modern era consists of...

Dan Devine

LOL Wut?

Gary Pinkel 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on February 01, 2012, 05:12:13 AM
Guess that mkes me #2 3

can't see me
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:34:47 AM
Recruiting Guy @ArRecruitingGuy

I expect Simon and Gardner to sign with OU
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 01, 2012, 06:40:14 AM
Lets not let the haters from the north ruin this day, we are still going to get some really good playas even without DGB.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:49:32 AM
Lets not let the haters from the north ruin this day, we are still going to get some really good playas even without DGB.
Double true
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
Lets not let the haters from the north ruin this day, we are still going to get some really good playas even without DGB.

yep. working from home, got my six pack of leinenkugel's ready to go.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Razordoc on February 01, 2012, 07:11:55 AM
Making rounds early, then to the office where the computer will be continually on this thread.  Go Hogs, WPS!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: CharlieHog on February 01, 2012, 07:35:13 AM
Looks like ESPN's signing day special will be on ESPN3: http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/

DGB at 9:15 central, I think.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Clark on February 01, 2012, 08:01:27 AM
Making rounds early, then to the office where the computer will be continually on this thread.  Go Hogs, WPS!
.....oh, in that case just snake a tube down her nose and I'll be there in four to five hours. Testing 1.....2......3

(in the background) Oh! Porterhouse!!!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Count Porkula on February 01, 2012, 08:23:48 AM
.....oh, in that case just snake a tube down her nose and I'll be there in four to five hours. Testing 1.....2......3

(in the background) Oh! Porterhouse!!!

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 01, 2012, 08:32:24 AM
where's the list of guys who's fax we've received?  duckman, you claim to have sources inside the BAC, have your buddy text you names as they come across the fax.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 01, 2012, 08:35:29 AM
where's the list of guys who's fax we've received?  duckman, you claim to have sources inside the BAC, have your buddy text you names as they come across the fax.

http://www.arpreps.com/signingday/

Appears to be updated frequently.  Try to ignore the commenters though.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
Holy shit, Hootie is on ESPNU talkin recruut'n
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Porkrinds on February 01, 2012, 08:39:00 AM
Nutt making his ESPN supporting role debut to talk about recruiting. This should be good. :beer:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Red Death on February 01, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
Will someone ask him how those recruiting victories landed him a seat on the panel?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HROHawg on February 01, 2012, 08:42:14 AM
Perfect.... the man that does the best with other coaches players... providing 'expert' commentary..
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 08:42:53 AM
Will someone ask him how those recruiting victories landed him a seat on the panel?

You can go places when you win back-to-back cotton bowls
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on February 01, 2012, 08:43:46 AM
Can one of you insiders tell me which recrootin thread I'm supposed to be reading to keep up?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 08:45:41 AM
All of them.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogfan58 on February 01, 2012, 08:46:49 AM
Hootie talking about recruiting qb's.....classic!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: shortstop6 on February 01, 2012, 08:49:05 AM
Hoot was easy to book for recruiting talk this morning.  He didn't have shit else to do.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 01, 2012, 08:51:06 AM
Nutt on early enrollees: "It takes a special person to give up that prom."
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: uagrad89 on February 01, 2012, 08:53:52 AM
where's the list of guys who's fax we've received?  duckman, you claim to have sources inside the BAC, have your buddy text you names as they come across the fax.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/school/_/id/8/arkansas

Listen live on http://espnarkansas.net/#
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 01, 2012, 09:00:59 AM
It has begun.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Guardrail on February 01, 2012, 09:08:32 AM
FSU racking up
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: GolfingHog on February 01, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
Fuck you Duckman!  :bird:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 01, 2012, 09:20:53 AM
Fuck you Duckman!  :bird:

What's a Duckman?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on February 01, 2012, 09:22:38 AM
What's a Duckman?

Sorta like a dinosaur in that they are both extict.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tim Calhoun on February 01, 2012, 09:25:55 AM
frick you Duckman!  :bird:

I hope he wasn't lying again when he said he would leave if wrong.  Idiot.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogBroyles on February 01, 2012, 09:27:22 AM
It's Missouri :bird:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: krack1925 on February 01, 2012, 09:28:21 AM
DGB going to Mizzu.   Look forward to shutting him down.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tim Calhoun on February 01, 2012, 09:29:17 AM
when does Diamond announce?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 09:30:51 AM
It sure would've been nice to get this kid, could've been the difference maker in getting us a national championship next year but oh well.  At least he's not going to Alabama or some other school where he would've made a huge difference.  Missouri is going to win 5 or 6 games next year with or without him. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 01, 2012, 09:31:34 AM
Is there an actual up-to-date list of the kids who have faxed their LOI to the right number?  I'd like to see who made the right choice.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: VegasHog on February 01, 2012, 09:31:35 AM
Hopefully we can sign Javon Williams.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 01, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
Well I hope he enjoys playing in multiple Independence bowls.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
To me, this raises question about our recruiting ability, when a player is such a great fit, yet we still can't close.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Well I hope he enjoys playing in multiple Independence bowls.


Would've been great to have him, but I do hope we lay him on his ass a few times for stringing us along for so long if we get to play Missouri in the next few years.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 09:36:16 AM
To me, this raises question about our recruiting ability, when a player is such a great fit, yet we still can't close.
You'll soon be labeled a bleeding gash
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 09:36:44 AM
when does Diamond announce?
Friday
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Reo Porkwagon on February 01, 2012, 09:37:13 AM
So who's the designated driver for Coach Pinkel tonight?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 01, 2012, 09:42:54 AM
To me, this raises question about our recruiting ability, when a player is such a great fit, yet we still can't close.

I would agree if he went out of state. He stayed home though,  can't blame the kid too much.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: authorhawgerelli on February 01, 2012, 09:43:19 AM
To me, this raises question about our recruiting ability, when a player is such a great fit, yet we still can't close.

BMFP couldn't lie to him and tell him he would be the only receiver in the routes (think Shibest in Hatfield's offense).  Good luck to the kid.  Also good luck on being the Homecoming opponent for every road SEC game for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 09:44:12 AM
To me, this raises question about our recruiting ability, when a player is such a great fit, yet we still can't close.


Yeah they suck.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: CharlieHog on February 01, 2012, 09:46:30 AM
I just don't buy the stuff about wanting to stay at home or feeling at home. The only thing that makes sense to me is that he wanted to be "THE" guy. Some players are like that. If you come to Arkansas as a WR you are going to be 1 in a group of great and athletic WRs, and we are going to spread the ball around to all of them, plus TEs and RBs.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on February 01, 2012, 09:47:38 AM
He will play for possibly 2 head coaches at Mizzou and be dealing with double teams from SEC defensive backs.... experienced SEC defensive backs who play football like he has never seen.  At Arkansas he was going to be lined up with the top WR in next year's NFL draft.  His mediocre QB will be lying on his back and injured after their date with Alabama. 

Good luck kid.  You made a bad decision. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 09:47:50 AM
a group of great WRs

Can you expand on this?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 09:48:57 AM
Can you expand on this?

She misspoke, our WRs suck too.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 01, 2012, 09:50:20 AM
I think people will be very pleased with....

Hamilton
Horton
Wade
Funderburke
Minor
Herndon
Hatcher
Cowan

WR is one position I am absolutely not worried about. Getting DGB would have been great, many feel his parents were the hold up. Beyond that frick em and lets move the frick on. Hopefully we can still pull in Williams or Neal or someone of that caliber.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on February 01, 2012, 09:52:41 AM
Can you expand on this?
You are aware that Cobi is already projected as the top WR drafted next year, right?  Marquel Wade is a difference making WR who was trying to get PT in a group of Senior WRs who will all play in the NFL. 

I wanted the splash with this kid and he likely would have been a key in getting over the top and beating the top 2 teams in the country last year that kept US out of the NC game... but if my choice is Peters, Diamond and some other great WR or DGB, I'll take the former every time.

We're competing for National Championships here now.... not worrying about being better than Vanderbilt. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 09:55:09 AM
Well I hope he enjoys playing in multiple Independence bowls.

You do know that Missouri is now in the SEC, right?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Razordoc on February 01, 2012, 09:57:06 AM
You do know that Missouri is now in the SEC, right?

Isn't that still an SEC-texas league tie in?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 09:57:10 AM
You do know that Missouri is now in the SEC, right?


He meant multiple Music City Bowls.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogsfan4life on February 01, 2012, 09:57:52 AM
You do know that Missouri is now in the SEC, right?

You know being in the SEC doesn't guarantee you a BCS/New Years Bowl game right?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: shortstop6 on February 01, 2012, 09:58:32 AM
You do know that Missouri is now in the SEC, right?

As were we when we played Missouri in the Independence Bowl.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 09:59:17 AM
Goddamnit. The Independence Bowl no longer has a SEC tie in. It was Mizzou v UNC this past year.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: EastArkHog on February 01, 2012, 10:00:07 AM


DGB will be a Razorback according to my super secret insider source I promise - Signed Duckfart

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: acohrs02 on February 01, 2012, 10:00:31 AM
You are aware that Cobi is already projected as the top WR drafted next year, right?  Marquel Wade is a difference making WR who was trying to get PT in a group of Senior WRs who will all play in the NFL. 

I wanted the splash with this kid and he likely would have been a key in getting over the top and beating the top 2 teams in the country last year that kept US out of the NC game... but if my choice is Peters, Diamond and some other great WR or DGB, I'll take the former every time.

We're competing for National Championships here now.... not worrying about being better than Vanderbilt.

We aren't better than Vanderbilt...when it comes to recruiting this year that is. I guess we'll find out on the field like always. Pentrino's classes almost always have meteoric rises by the time they are seniors.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HipHog on February 01, 2012, 10:00:39 AM
db chris humes flipped and signed with stAte?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 10:01:28 AM
You know being in the SEC doesn't guarantee you a BCS/New Years Bowl game right?

I was reminding the person who originally stated the "good luck with those Indy Bowls" that the SEC no longer has any tie-in to the Indy Bowl.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 01, 2012, 10:02:06 AM
Goddamnit. The Independence Bowl no longer has a SEC tie in. It was Mizzou v UNC this past year.

Whatever I can't keep up with that shit. The point is Mizzou blows.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 10:02:39 AM
db chris humes flipped and signed with stAte?

I don't think his commitment was actually accepted here--I thought he was a backup plan?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:03:02 AM
Where is the LOI thread?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on February 01, 2012, 10:05:29 AM
We aren't better than Vanderbilt...when it comes to recruiting this year that is. I guess we'll find out on the field like always. Pentrino's classes almost always have meteoric rises by the time they are seniors.
I don't say this because of DGB or anything else.  I have said this for 4 years.

I will NEVER care about the rankings put together by guys like Trey Biddy, Otis Kirk or Dudley Dawson and their similarly retarded counterparts across this country.... not when I know that the people doing the actual evaluating are getting paid thirty times what Otis makes in a month and have the credentials that Petrino and his staff does.  Never. 

If all of the sudden we were highly ranked by the same dipshits, I would assume that they were now fluffing up our recruits just like they do for the Longhorns or anyone else. 

Everyone needs to stand back and use their heads sometimes. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 10:06:26 AM
Where is the LOI thread?

Here's a link to 24/7. Looks like the only two LOIs we're waiting on from commits are Buchanan, Jr. and Winston.
http://arkansas.247sports.com/Recruit/Commits
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: shortstop6 on February 01, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
Goddamnit. The Independence Bowl no longer has a SEC tie in. It was Mizzou v UNC this past year.

yeah.  Mizzou filled out that MWC tie-in quite nicely.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 01, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
Here's a link to 24/7. Looks like the only two LOIs we're waiting on from commits are Buchanan, Jr. and Winston.
http://arkansas.247sports.com/Recruit/Commits

And that only gets us to 22, by their count.  Do we have room for 25?  Who are going to get the other 3 slots?  I'd like to think we could get Diamond and Neal, but I don't want to see them wait around that long for the latter, and I'm just not going to get my hopes up on the former.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on February 01, 2012, 10:11:29 AM
I'd be surprised if we go to 25 just to fill spots. 

At some point we are going to have to fill in a smaller class because of numbers, correct?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
Javon Williams could still come here. I think it was on TD that I read that his offer was good whether DGB came here or not and I think they're reserving a spot for Diamond.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: uagrad89 on February 01, 2012, 10:17:32 AM
Stewart Mandel tweeted:

"Houston Nutt may be relegated to television today, but don't worry, he'll still find a way to sign 6 or 7 JUCOs"

That's funny right there.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 01, 2012, 10:19:55 AM
I'd be surprised if we go to 25 just to fill spots. 

At some point we are going to have to fill in a smaller class because of numbers, correct?

That's kind of what I was getting at.  I don't know how many kids we have under scholarship, and whether we have room to even sign the full 25.  I guess I was wondering out loud who the backup plan for DGB is, and if we're holding room for Diamond, Neal, or Williams.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 10:20:11 AM
Stewart Mandel tweeted:

"Hootie may be relegated to television today, but don't worry, he'll still find a way to sign 6 or 7 JUCOs"

That's funny right there.

Nice one by Mandel. It's ridiculous that anyone finds him entertaining enough to be a talking head. Tim Brando's sidekick/BFF, maybe, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
Has Diamond signed yet?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Filthy_McSwine on February 01, 2012, 10:24:05 AM
Has Diamond signed yet?

Friday.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 01, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
Has Diamond signed yet?

He's supposedly waiting till Friday to announce, for some damned reason.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
He's supposedly waiting till Friday to announce, for some damned reason.
Ok thanks!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 10:27:25 AM
DGB will be their Marcus Monk.  Also Pinkel has promised him he can play BBall too.  Problem is McFadden or Felix Jones.

He's supposedly waiting till Friday to announce, for some damned reason.
HE and Gregory are signing together. They are letting or already have let coaches know.  If we sign Joey Warberg then we are not getting Diamond. They are doing it so all their family can be there.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 01, 2012, 10:28:30 AM
DGB will be their Marcus Monk.  Also Pinkel has promised him he can play BBall too.  Problem is McFadden or Felix Jones.
 HE and Gregory are signing together. They are letting or already have let coaches know.  If we sign Joey Warberg then we are not getting Diamond. They are doing it so all their family can be there.

I guess that makes sense, as long as they aren't stringing any schools along with it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 10:30:58 AM
DGB will be their Marcus Monk.  Also Pinkel has promised him he can play BBall too.  Problem is McFadden or Felix Jones.
 


Wait, the problem with what?  Are McFadden or Jones going to Missouri to play basketball?

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
I was told by a source that is often wrong and sometimes right Mizzou offered Dorial's gf a basketball schollie.  Is that legit?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: NotoriousPIG on February 01, 2012, 10:34:52 AM
Why Bama kills it in recruiting

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Nevermind.  What a butterface.

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Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on February 01, 2012, 10:35:55 AM
I was told by a source that is often wrong and sometimes right Mizzou offered Dorial's gf a basketball schollie.  Is that legit?

Maybe
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 10:37:23 AM
I was told by a source that is often wrong and sometimes right Mizzou offered Dorial's gf a basketball schollie.  Is that legit?


Are you asking whether it's true that Missouri offered his girlfriend a scholarship, or are you asking whether offering his girlfriend a scholarship is allowed  under NCAA rules?

I don't know about the former, but as far as the latter goes, if Nick Saban can get recruits by giving their girlfriends jobs, then I don't see why Missouri can't get recruits by offering their girlfriends scholarships.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: WORD on February 01, 2012, 10:37:28 AM
Why Bama kills it in recruiting

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Nevermind.  What a butterface.

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and here we are stuck with some 40 year old fake mrs duckman funbags. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:37:59 AM
DGB will be their Marcus Monk.  Also Pinkel has promised him he can play BBall too.  Problem is McFadden or Felix Jones.
 HE and Gregory are signing together. They are letting or already have let coaches know.  If we sign Joey Warberg then we are not getting Diamond. They are doing it so all their family can be there.
ok
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:40:26 AM

Are you asking whether it's true that Missouri offered his girlfriend a scholarship, or are you asking whether offering his girlfriend a scholarship is allowed  under NCAA rules?

I don't know about the former, but as far as the latter goes, if Nick Saban can get recruits by giving their girlfriends jobs, then I don't see why Missouri can't get recruits by offering their girlfriends scholarships.
Yes

It also happened at Auburn with Micheal and Dakota.  How did that work out for them?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
Also what about Jalen Cobb what is his status?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 10:41:28 AM
You are aware that Cobi is already projected as the top WR drafted next year, right?  Marquel Wade is a difference making WR who was trying to get PT in a group of Senior WRs who will all play in the NFL. 

I wanted the splash with this kid and he likely would have been a key in getting over the top and beating the top 2 teams in the country last year that kept US out of the NC game... but if my choice is Peters, Diamond and some other great WR or DGB, I'll take the former every time.

We're competing for National Championships here now.... not worrying about being better than Vanderbilt.

I suppose you are right. This all just stings me a little more because this kid (DGB) came out of my high school. After three Boulevard Wheat's I'm starting to step back from that ledge.

I trust that Petrino's offensive scheme will continue to roll, but it's always going to be in the back of my mind how DGB would match up against Bama or LSU's number one cornerback, while the rest of their defense is being pressured by our various other weapons you highlighted.

On a more positive note, I am glad to see the improvements we've made the last couple years in recruiting the defensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 10:42:28 AM



At least we didn't have a recruit not get to sign today because he's sitting in jail.

A Division I football recruit who was expected to make his college choice on Wednesday's national signing day festivities was instead in jail, being held on two charges of rape. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/wr-recruit-roger-lewis-facing-rape-charges-instead-124158285.html)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 10:42:32 AM
Also what about Jalen Cobb what is his status?

Didn't qualify... Too bad too, he's supposed to be the best out of Warren.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
Word is Joey Warburg signed with Illinois.  That could be a good thing.  He was the back up to Diamond.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Word is Joey Warburg signed with Illinois.  That could be a good thing.  He was the back up to Diamond.

Anything on Javon Williams yet?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
Anything on Javon Williams yet?
11:45
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 11:00:26 AM
Hootie's on the espnU, talking about players and injuries.  Says, "you want to make sure that horse can run". 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: littlerayofsunshine on February 01, 2012, 11:02:06 AM
Also what about Jalen Cobb what is his status?

Retard.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on February 01, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
Retard.
Now that's a little harsh just because the kid couldn't get into the UofA.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Filthy_McSwine on February 01, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
Retard.

That's a bit harsh.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 11:05:47 AM
Jamichael Winston signed his LOI.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 11:08:28 AM
Word is Joey Warburg signed with Illinois.  That could be a good thing.  He was the back up to Diamond.

I hate to keep bringing this shit up, but I just saw this kids name scroll on ESPNU. He's the #140th ranked OT in the class. After two back-to back-top 10 finishes can we not reach a little bit higher?

/rollercoaster
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 11:09:54 AM
I hate to keep bringing this aMm up, but I just saw this kids name scroll on ESPNU. He's the #140th ranked OT in the class. After two back-to back-top 10 finishes can we not reach a little bit higher?

/rollercoaster

I don't think he was a priority. More like a backup plan.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: geohul on February 01, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
Vandy is closing with a higher ranked class.  I do not understand this.  Losing DGB hurts.  We all love to talk about BMFP's ability to evaluate talent that is right for his system.  What does it tell you that the whole staff busted their asses for 2 years to try to get that kid on campus only to fail at the end?  It says that BMFP knew DGB would have been a monster for us.  Weather some of you like it or not stars do matter. Not on the field, but in the living room of next years recruits and you can bet that other SEC coaches will point to them and use them against us.  i.e. "If Arkansas had an 11 win season and a top 5 finish why didn't they sign a class in the top 30?  Do you really want to be a part of a team that had the best season in 30 years and can't get a guy who fits their system perfectly and lives right down the road?  Something is going on there." etc...

  Are we signing some kids who are just as talented as some high 4 stars and even 5 stars? Yes.  But when you are the favorite for 6 months to sign the #1 recruit in the country and you lose him with 48 hours to go, that is devastating.  Do more stars equal more talent?  Not nessecarily.  But just think if BMFP can coach up a guy who is a 2 star recruit and 4 years later have that guy be evaluated a 4 or 5 star, what could he have done with a DGB or any other top rated recruit.  We will be fine in 2012.  Possibly even National Champs.  But at some point one would think we would see some of that success translate into top rated recruiting classes.  As of my typing this we are at best the 11th ranked class in the SEC by ESPN.  You and I know that's bullshit, but other 18 year old kids we are recruiting for 2013 don't.  That's why having DGB put on a Hog hat on national TV would have been such a huge coup for our coaches.  Furthermore, after this next season we will be looked at for better or worse as a team that is rebuilding.  That means we'll get no respect from the media to start the 2013 season and our ranking won't be where we will all feel it should be to start the season.  With polls still playing such a huge part in BCS births, the difference between a top 10 preseason ranking and a top 20 preseason ranking could mean the difference between the BCS championship and the Sugar or Cotton again. 

We will be fine in the long run.  BMFP is a fantastic coach.  I'd just like to see us make a splash and have one top 10 recruiting class.  It would help to shuck the perception of Arkansas as a mid tier or low tier SEC team both amongst other SEC schools, recruits, and the media. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 01, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
Javon Williams family wearing UCLA gear according to twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/KevinPStewart/status/164754596982558720
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 11:15:19 AM
We will be fine in the long run.  BMFP is a fantastic coach.  I'd just like to see us make a splash and have one top 10 recruiting class.  It would help to shuck the perception of Arkansas as a mid tier or low tier SEC team both amongst other SEC schools, recruits, and the media. 

You should have just posted this part.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on February 01, 2012, 11:16:36 AM
I hate to keep bringing this shit up, but I just saw this kids name scroll on ESPNU. He's the #140th ranked OT in the class. After two back-to back-top 10 finishes can we not reach a little bit higher?

/rollercoaster

What the fuck man?  Either you put your hope in these jackwagon recriting services, which it appears you have and are a dumbass for doing so, or you shut the fuck up with this shit and trust BMFP.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 11:17:37 AM
Javon Williams family wearing UCLA gear according to twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/KevinPStewart/status/164754596982558720


Could be the old switcheroo in action.

Or, we could have lost out on a third big WR recruit in two days. 

It's possible we're not offering enough under-the-table incentives to these guys.


Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on February 01, 2012, 11:22:01 AM
Vandy is closing with a higher ranked class.  I do not understand this.  Losing DGB hurts.  We all love to talk about BMFP's ability to evaluate talent that is right for his system.  What does it tell you that the whole staff busted their asses for 2 years to try to get that kid on campus only to fail at the end?  It says that BMFP knew DGB would have been a monster for us.  Weather some of you like it or not stars do matter. Not on the field, but in the living room of next years recruits and you can bet that other SEC coaches will point to them and use them against us.  i.e. "If Arkansas had an 11 win season and a top 5 finish why didn't they sign a class in the top 30?  Do you really want to be a part of a team that had the best season in 30 years and can't get a guy who fits their system perfectly and lives right down the road?  Something is going on there." etc...

  Are we signing some kids who are just as talented as some high 4 stars and even 5 stars? Yes.  But when you are the favorite for 6 months to sign the #1 recruit in the country and you lose him with 48 hours to go, that is devastating.  Do more stars equal more talent?  Not nessecarily.  But just think if BMFP can coach up a guy who is a 2 star recruit and 4 years later have that guy be evaluated a 4 or 5 star, what could he have done with a DGB or any other top rated recruit.  We will be fine in 2012.  Possibly even National Champs.  But at some point one would think we would see some of that success translate into top rated recruiting classes.  As of my typing this we are at best the 11th ranked class in the SEC by ESPN.  You and I know that's bullshit, but other 18 year old kids we are recruiting for 2013 don't.  That's why having DGB put on a Hog hat on national TV would have been such a huge coup for our coaches.  Furthermore, after this next season we will be looked at for better or worse as a team that is rebuilding.  That means we'll get no respect from the media to start the 2013 season and our ranking won't be where we will all feel it should be to start the season.  With polls still playing such a huge part in BCS births, the difference between a top 10 preseason ranking and a top 20 preseason ranking could mean the difference between the BCS championship and the Sugar or Cotton again. 

We will be fine in the long run.  BMFP is a fantastic coach.  I'd just like to see us make a splash and have one top 10 recruiting class.  It would help to shuck the perception of Arkansas as a mid tier or low tier SEC team both amongst other SEC schools, recruits, and the media.

You seem awfully worried about what other people think.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on February 01, 2012, 11:23:08 AM

Could be the old switcheroo in action.

Or, we could have lost out on a third big WR recruit in two days. 

It's possible obvious we're not offering enough under-the-table incentives to these guys.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 11:24:17 AM
db chris humes flipped and signed with stAte?
:(
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ups_hog on February 01, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
According to Rivals Humes didn't have a committable offer from us.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: enl35794 on February 01, 2012, 11:25:45 AM
I was told by a source that is often wrong and sometimes right Mizzou offered Dorial's gf a basketball schollie.  Is that legit?


She is also incredibly fine.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on February 01, 2012, 11:25:57 AM
Pardon me while I take note of the sky-falling retards up in here.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
Pardon me while I take note of the sky-falling retards up in here.

I'll preface this by saying that I trust in Petrino's player development as much as the next guy, but you're telling me that you would take a top 10 recruting class over a class in the mid-50's?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 11:29:18 AM
ESPNU isn't right WarBurg has not signed yet.  Not suppose to until around 2.  We may take him anyway.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: JoeBobHog on February 01, 2012, 11:29:55 AM
Pardon me while I take note of the sky-falling retards up in here.


please do not include me with their ilk.



 :notexas:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ham Malone on February 01, 2012, 11:34:42 AM

She is also incredibly fine.
I bet she is.  He also could have dumped her, walked around Fayetteville with a wheelbarrow and loaded up more quality than he could handle.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 11:37:42 AM
According to Rivals Humes didn't have a committable offer from us.
Thats weird because a week ago the birmingham paper said he was a hog!

He wouldve been the best db in this class for us and we lost him to ASU?! Im confused.

Also, does suck big one not to get one of the top WR we were recruiting. I Think the dude from awasso looks great but gardner and dgb looked like manbeasts. Why is it that we had a bunch of hype at wr this season and had two or three top notch wr recruits looking hard here to become the next great receiver of the sec and then within the past week we lose all of them? Aside From hatcher who is going to be good we got zilch. Im glad to have hatcher but ill trade him for gardner or dgb anyday.
Longest modifiereverphace
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on February 01, 2012, 11:41:34 AM
I'll preface this by saying that I trust in Petrino's player development as much as the next guy, but you're telling me that you would take a top 10 recruting class over a class in the mid-50's?

I'm telling you that an 11-win season on top of a 10-win season buys a person plenty of confidence, and so I don't question it.

I think some of you are being fucking stupid and obsessing for obsessing's stake over reading tea leaves.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on February 01, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
I'm telling you that an 11-win season on top of a 10-win season buys a person plenty of confidence, and so I don't question it.

I think some of you are being fucking stupid and obsessing for obsessing's stake over reading tea leaves.
:borat:

January rankings > February rankings.

I wanted DGB bad. He would have been great for us and will be great for Mizzou. I also want Javon Williams and am beginning to be disappointed in this class.

BUT...we signed a nice LB and may snag another OL soon on top of some good sized DBs. I also saw this offense produce with Casey Dick throwing to London Crawford and Cartlon Salters and Reggie Fish. I am not worried.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 11:45:55 AM
Javon Williams family wearing UCLA gear according to twitter

https://twitter.com/#!/KevinPStewart/status/164754596982558720

The shitty thing about this is that a month ago Javon Williams would have KILLED to be a Hog.  But we had to slow play him because of DGB.  Now we get neither.

Fuck you, DGB.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on February 01, 2012, 11:49:28 AM
I'll preface this by saying that I trust in Petrino's player development as much as the next guy, but you're telling me that you would take a top 10 recruting class over a class in the mid-50's?

Once again, you're putting WAAAAY to much faith into current recruiting rankings. Why?  Because it's sounding like you trust how a washed up never was QB now turned analyst is ranking kids out of HS against competition that wil be selling cars this time next year.



Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
:beer:

Are you still bleeding?
Mildly anemic
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ups_hog on February 01, 2012, 11:59:15 AM
This is how I look at the rankings-  Had we signed DGB, our class ranking would have jumped up quite a bit.  He's a WR that would've been coming to a team that will never have problems at receiver.  Does that one commitment really change the overall dynamic of our class that much?  The Peters signing fills a need for us that is much more important than wide receiver, but the rankings don't reflect that. 

I'm not trying to say I don't care about not signing DGB.  I'm very unhappy that we didn't.  Just saying that you could sign a class with a handful of 5 star guys at one position and you're class is going to be ranked high regardless of what else you have.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 12:02:01 PM
So if Javon Williams goes to UCLA after we slow played him and we offer Brad Culp, I'll be upset.


edit: he went to ucla
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
I'm upset because we lost a true difference maker.  I don't give a shit about our class ranking.  I care that we no longer have a 6'6" once in a lifetime receiver in the fold.  THAT'S the kind of player that Bama/LSU can't prepare for.  Oh? You have an all world CB at 6'1", blah, blah? Oh well. Just throw it up to DGB.  He would keep drives going, turn FGs into TDs, etc, etc.  He's Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald level talent.  I'm not saying we DON'T have talented receivers.  We do.  But even the 3 great receivers we just lost were, at best, a wash when compared to the secondaries they faced at Bama/LSU...and that's probably a stretch. 

Oh well, it's over now.  And Javon Williams signed with UCLA.  :suicide:

They need to start working on Tenpenny and get his ass to stay in Arkansas.  I can stand losing a 5* out of state player...but we need to stop losing the few elite players we have in the state to grades/competition.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TUSK_U on February 01, 2012, 12:04:32 PM
So if Javon Williams goes to UCLA after we slow played him and we offer Brad Culp, I'll be upset.

Well, Williams just signed with UCLA.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:05:10 PM
Once again, you're putting WAAAAY to much faith into current recruiting rankings. Why?  Because it's sounding like you trust how a washed up never was QB now turned analyst is ranking kids out of HS against competition that wil be selling cars this time next year.
Having confidence that we will be ok is fine because of course we will be ok. But quit acting like it doesnt disapoint you that we didnt get some of these guys. If we wouldve gotten them would you just be acting like oh who cares that we got dgb?no had we gotten him and a few others and  finished in the top five you would've hollering that this top5/10 class is the going to be really really great which is exactly what some recruiting site will tell you. If we dont get the recruits the mantra is these recruiting services dont know shit. If we signed these guys and had a top class then all the sudden they are right because well we got better players. Acting like there is nothing right abouy these services is our way of dealing with not signing top 5 classes. Easy to make fun of the party when you arent invited.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on February 01, 2012, 12:05:55 PM
I'm upset because we lost a true difference maker.  I don't give a shit about our class ranking.  I care that we no longer have a 6'6" once in a lifetime receiver in the fold.  THAT'S the kind of player that Bama/LSU can't prepare for.  Oh? You have an all world CB at 6'1", blah, blah? Oh well. Just throw it up to DGB.  He would keep drives going, turn FGs into TDs, etc, etc.  He's Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald level talent.  I'm not saying we DON'T have talented receivers.  We do.  But even the 3 great receivers we just lost were, at best, a wash when compared to the secondaries they faced at Bama/LSU...and that's probably a stretch. 

Oh well, it's over now.  And Javon Williams signed with UCLA.  :suicide:

They need to start working on Tenpenny and get his ass to stay in Arkansas.  I can stand losing a 5* out of state player...but we need to stop losing the few elite players we have in the state to grades/competition.
I agree completely.

I think this is a good time to bring back this old article...

http://woopig.net/2010/02/recruiting-rankings-dont-matter-inexactly/
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TUSK_U on February 01, 2012, 12:06:14 PM
I really thought we were gonna close with a bang. We kind of we closed with a poof this year. Guess we can still wait on diamond and his buddy on Friday.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 12:06:41 PM
So if Javon Williams goes to UCLA after we slow played him and we offer Brad Culp, I'll be upset.


edit: he went to ucla

I wouldn't think that we would even really need another WR right now considering how many are on the current roster. And and we signed, what--3 or 4 WRs in this class? I'm sure those spots are for Diamond and Robert Gregory (don't know if he'll be a QB or not).
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 01, 2012, 12:07:45 PM
This is how I look at the rankings-  Had we signed DGB, our class ranking would have jumped up quite a bit.  He's a WR that would've been coming to a team that will never have problems at receiver.  Does that one commitment really change the overall dynamic of our class that much?  The Peters signing fills a need for us that is much more important than wide receiver, but the rankings don't reflect that. 

I'm not trying to say I don't care about not signing DGB.  I'm very unhappy that we didn't.  Just saying that you could sign a class with a handful of 5 star guys at one position and you're class is going to be ranked high regardless of what else you have.

Take that kind of logical thinking somewhere else!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 12:09:10 PM
Having confidence that we will be ok is fine because of course we will be ok. But quit acting like it doesnt disapoint you that we didnt get some of these guys. If we wouldve gotten them would you just be acting like oh who cares that we got dgb?no had we gotten him and a few others and  finished in the top five you would've hollering that this top5/10 class is the going to be really really great which is exactly what some recruiting site will tell you. If we dont get the recruits the mantra is these recruiting services dont know shit. If we signed these guys and had a top class then all the sudden they are right because well we got better players. Acting like there is nothing right abouy these services is our way of dealing with not signing top 5 classes. Easy to make fun of the party when you arent invited.
This
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 12:10:13 PM
I'm not upset, we got players that BMFP wants and who want to be at Arkansas. I am looking forward to watching them develop and kicking ass for the next 5 years.  I also look forward to: the class geting re-ranked in 4 years and is a top ten; beating the everloving shit out of Vandy, Tennersee and mizzou and every other team we face.

They can have DGB and Pinkel I will happily take Petrino and what ever kid has the stones to come play for him.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: OneWhoAdores on February 01, 2012, 12:10:49 PM
I'm telling you that an 11-win season on top of a 10-win season buys a person plenty of confidence, and so I don't question it.

I think some of you are being fricking stupid and obsessing for obsessing's stake over reading tea leaves.

Look, I honestly don't know whether I would rather have Petrino or Saban as the coach here.  That's saying something because BMFP hasn't accomplished nearly as much as Saban.  But he has taken us from shit to serious way faster than we ever could have imagined.  Getting to 11 wins from where we started in 08 is an obvious indicator of coaching ability.

But, shit, that isn't a strong enough reason not to be concerned with what's happened today.  Recruiting fucking matters, like it or not.  I've posted before (and if necessary will again) statistical studies that show that recruiting rankings (measured by whichever service you like, no matter how the services quantify the player's talent) are significantly correlated with how you end up in the final polls for the next four years (where 'polls' means Sagarin ratings, at least).  That is a robust fucking effect.  Yeah, cue all the bullshit about correlation not implying causation.  I know; I get it.  But, on the other hand, the only evidence for any causal connection is correlational.  So, assuming we care about the future success of the program, we'd clearly be retards not to AT LEAST point this evidence out. 

I'm sure coaching ability is a variable that you have to keep in mind when trying to explain the correlation.  But it's just obvious that Lombardi himself is not beating Alabama and LSU with a bunch of fucking two stars.  And it doesn't make me or anyone else a chicken little for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 01, 2012, 12:11:06 PM
Tim Horton has to be re-evaluated here right? We will finish 10th in the sec after a top 5 finish,  and we have lost the top instate recruit the last 3 going on 4 years. Say what you want about those instate kids, they had scholly offers from us. It's dissapointing to say the least.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
I really thought we were gonna close with a bang. We kind of we closed with a poof this year. Guess we can still wait on diamond and his buddy on Friday.

There's still at least a LITTLE hope for some fireworks here at the end.

Seth Jacobs announces tonight, I believe.  He would be a huge get for the defense.  I THINK it's down to us and Ok St.  I'm not holding my breath, though.  Haven't heard ANYTHING about him in months with regards to Arkansas.

Darius Philon, a DE/DT from Alabama, had his scholly offer reverted to a grayshirt by Saban and Bama.  He put on the Bama hat and went through the shennanigans, but he didn't sign/fax his LOI yet.  Supposedly we're in his ear offering the full ride.  Teammate of Jamichael Winston.  I'd be pretty damn happy with that kind of surprise on NSD.  Very good player with offers from Bama, Auburn, and others.

Diamond.  I feel good about him.  I just hope we didn't have to offer a package deal to get him.  I think we'll know if we got him if we don't sign Warburg or whatever his name is.  If he signs elsewhere, I'll take that to mean that Diamond is ours.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
This is how I look at the rankings-  Had we signed DGB, our class ranking would have jumped up quite a bit.  He's a WR that would've been coming to a team that will never have problems at receiver.  Does that one commitment really change the overall dynamic of our class that much?  The Peters signing fills a need for us that is much more important than wide receiver, but the rankings don't reflect that. 

I'm not trying to say I don't care about not signing DGB.  I'm very unhappy that we didn't.  Just saying that you could sign a class with a handful of 5 star guys at one position and you're class is going to be ranked high regardless of what else you have.
So you are saying you wouldnt want to sign a handfull of 5 star wrs or a handfull of 5 star at the same position because it disproportionately fluffs our rankings? Ill take signing 3 five star wr in every class from now till the end of time.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Filthy_McSwine on February 01, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
Anyone know why Buchanan hasn't signed?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on February 01, 2012, 12:15:09 PM
Having confidence that we will be ok is fine because of course we will be ok. But quit acting like it doesnt disapoint you that we didnt get some of these guys. If we wouldve gotten them would you just be acting like oh who cares that we got dgb?no had we gotten him and a few others and  finished in the top five you would've hollering that this top5/10 class is the going to be really really great which is exactly what some recruiting site will tell you. If we dont get the recruits the mantra is these recruiting services dont know shit. If we signed these guys and had a top class then all the sudden they are right because well we got better players. Acting like there is nothing right abouy these services is our way of dealing with not signing top 5 classes. Easy to make fun of the party when you arent invited.

I never said I wasnt disappointed we didnt land a 6'4, 220lb, 4.4 wr.  I was shocked when I saw him put that hat on.  I'm very disappointed.  And dont pretend to know how I would respond either way to make yourself feel better about your shitty argument that recruiting rankings DO matter.  Because that's just bullshit, and you're hook, line, and sinker the reason why these shitty recruiting services are in business. 
Look, we finished #6 and if we beat LSU who knows what wouldve happened.  And we'll be better this year.  Quit the chicken little sky is falling because we dont have a top 5 class.  I think some of you are just still jaded by the last crew that was here trying to sell you on diamonds in the rough and under the radar super secret recruits, when it was just really shitty recruiting.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: McCarroll21 on February 01, 2012, 12:17:18 PM
Anyone know why Buchanan hasn't signed?

He has signed.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ups_hog on February 01, 2012, 12:18:11 PM
So you are saying you wouldnt want to sign a handfull of 5 star wrs or a handfull of 5 star at the same position because it disproportionately fluffs our rankings? Ill take signing 3 five star wr in every class from now till the end of time.

Not at all, and I agree with you.  I'm just saying that if you sign a bunch of 5 stars at one position and you don't do a good job of signing your areas of actual need, that class might be ranked highly but it's not going to translate to wins.  Like signing the best QB on the planet and then putting him behind a shitty offensive line.  I'm just talking strictly about the rankings.   

If we could get Jacobs tonight that would be a pretty good class of linebackers, which we are actually in desperate need of.  I'm just trying to make myself feel better here.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 12:18:54 PM
Look, I honestly don't know whether I would rather have Petrino or Saban as the coach here.  That's saying something because BMFP hasn't accomplished nearly as much as Saban.  But he has taken us from shit to serious way faster than we ever could have imagined.  Getting to 11 wins from where we started in 08 is an obvious indicator of coaching ability.

But, shit, that isn't a strong enough reason not to be concerned with what's happened today.  Recruiting fucking matters, like it or not.  I've posted before (and if necessary will again) statistical studies that show that recruiting rankings (measured by whichever service you like, no matter how the services quantify the player's talent) are significantly correlated with how you end up in the final polls for the next four years (where 'polls' means Sagarin ratings, at least).  That is a robust fucking effect.  Yeah, cue all the bullshit about correlation not implying causation.  I know; I get it.  But, on the other hand, the only evidence for any causal connection is correlational.  So, assuming we care about the future success of the program, we'd clearly be retards not to AT LEAST point this evidence out. 

I'm sure coaching ability is a variable that you have to keep in mind when trying to explain the correlation.  But it's just obvious that Lombardi himself is not beating Alabama and LSU with a bunch of fucking two stars.  And it doesn't make me or anyone else a chicken little for pointing that out.

I was told there'd be no math.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:19:24 PM
But it's just obvious that Lombardi himself is not beating Alabama and LSU with a bunch of fricking two stars.  And it doesn't make me or anyone else a chicken little for pointing that out.

Wait. We signed a bunch of fucking 2 stars? Maybe your spreadsheet is off, hoss. The majority of our players are 3/4 stars. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:21:30 PM
I'm not upset, we got players that BMFP wants and who want to be at Arkansas. I am looking forward to watching them develop and kicking ass for the next 5 years.  I also look forward to: the class geting re-ranked in 4 years and is a top ten; beating the everloving aMm out of Vandy, Tennersee and mizzou and every other team we face.

They can have DGB and Pinkel I will happily take Petrino and what ever kid has the stones to come play for him.
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on February 01, 2012, 12:22:25 PM
There's still at least a LITTLE hope for some fireworks here at the end.

Seth Jacobs announces tonight, I believe.  He would be a huge get for the defense.  I THINK it's down to us and Ok St.  I'm not holding my breath, though.  Haven't heard ANYTHING about him in months with regards to Arkansas.

Darius Philon, a DE/DT from Alabama, had his scholly offer reverted to a grayshirt by Saban and Bama.  He put on the Bama hat and went through the shennanigans, but he didn't sign/fax his LOI yet.  Supposedly we're in his ear offering the full ride.  Teammate of Jamichael Winston.  I'd be pretty damn happy with that kind of surprise on NSD.  Very good player with offers from Bama, Auburn, and others.

Diamond.  I feel good about him.  I just hope we didn't have to offer a package deal to get him.  I think we'll know if we got him if we don't sign Warburg or whatever his name is.  If he signs elsewhere, I'll take that to mean that Diamond is ours.

According to the 24/7 site, Jacobs is down to us and Arizona State, showing both as "Warmer."

We aren't in Philon's top 5 on that same list, but I'd love to steal one from 'Bama, no matter how it happened.


As to DGB, I would have loved to get him, but not really for the sake of rankings.  It would've just been great for our name to be associated with making a big splash. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 12:23:57 PM
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.

Yeah I see your point, its so much harder to grade actual results than to project potential 4 years into the future.
dumas
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TC on February 01, 2012, 12:25:32 PM
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.

You're really fucking thick today.

Which is more accurate player eval. (or 'star ranking')?  Coming out of h.s. against varied competiton, or after senior collegiate season against D1 comp.?

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:26:33 PM
I never said I wasnt disappointed we didnt land a 6'4, 220lb, 4.4 wr.  I was shocked when I saw him put that hat on.  I'm very disappointed.  And dont pretend to know how I would respond either way to make yourself feel better about your shitty argument that recruiting rankings DO matter.  Because that's just bullshit, and you're hook, line, and sinker the reason why these shitty recruiting services are in business. 
Look, we finished #6 and if we beat LSU who knows what wouldve happened.  And we'll be better this year.  Quit the chicken little sky is falling because we dont have a top 5 class.  I think some of you are just still jaded by the last crew that was here trying to sell you on diamonds in the rough and under the radar super secret recruits, when it was just really shitty recruiting.
Every national champ for the past ten years signs top 10 classes every year. Rivals may not know shit but thats one hell of a pattern.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hawgwild8988 on February 01, 2012, 12:27:57 PM
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.

I think the point is that it is a hell of a lot easier to rank recruits after the fact than to give them some mythical amount of stars. And really, who knows how good some 17 year old kid will be in 2 or 3 years?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 01, 2012, 12:29:23 PM
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.

Makes sense to me.  Hindsight is fitty fitty.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: acohrs02 on February 01, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
You're really fricking thick today.

Which is more accurate player eval. (or 'star ranking')?  Coming out of h.s. against varied competiton, or after senior collegiate season against D1 comp.?

TWSS
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:30:30 PM
Every national champ for the past ten years signs top 10 classes every year. Rivals may not know aMm but thats one Starkville of a pattern.

Where have Oregon's classes ranked the last few years?  Or Arkansas'?  Cause we're both knocking on the door.  Ok State?

Oh, and stop looking at Rivals.  They are fighting with ESPN these days for worst recruiting service.  I'm pretty sure Rivals failed to send a single scout within Arkansas borders this entire year.  Think about that.

24/7
Scout




ESPN/Rivals
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 12:30:31 PM
Every national champ for the past ten years signs top 10 classes every year.
No, they didn't.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: VegasHog on February 01, 2012, 12:30:58 PM
We needed defense, players and coaches. We got both.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
Whaaaaaaat? 

HImagazine Hawgs Illustrated
Arkanas' 2011 signee Demetrius Dean - the Fayetteville High tight end - is enrolled, on campus and working out with the team.

Evidently he's counting towards this year's class.  So there's number 23.  2 spots left, I guess.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:37:34 PM
Where have Oregon's classes ranked the last few years?  Or Arkansas'?  Cause we're both knocking on the door.  Ok State?

Oh, and stop looking at Rivals.  They are fighting with ESPN these days for worst recruiting service.  I'm pretty sure Rivals failed to send a single scout within Arkansas borders this entire year.  Think about that.

24/7
Scout




ESPN/Rivals
I dont follow recruiting sites period. i used rivals as a generic name since they are the template for most recsites. None of those teams you mention won a championship.
Generally for the past few years ive come to woopig to see who we have offered and then watch highlight of them and evaluate them myself.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:39:22 PM
No, they didn't.
Yes, they did. Wanna fight about it?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogye West on February 01, 2012, 12:40:50 PM
Whaaaaaaat? 

HImagazine Hawgs Illustrated
Arkanas' 2011 signee Demetrius Dean - the Fayetteville High tight end - is enrolled, on campus and working out with the team.

Evidently he's counting towards this year's class.  So there's number 23.  2 spots left, I guess.

Watched the kid at FHS, was a monster TE when wanted to be. But was too overweight and to play at the SEC level. Maybe he's got his shit together now, I don't know.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
Watched the kid at FHS, was a monster TE when wanted to be. But was too overweight and to play at the SEC level. Maybe he's got his aMm together now, I don't know.


Wish i knew if he was counting towards the '12 class or counting back to the '11 class. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 12:46:50 PM
Yes, they did. Wanna fight about it?
pussy eater
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:47:15 PM
I think we have done nothing but improve each year in recruiting under petrino and think that to compete on yearly basis for championships of anykind we still need to continually improve on recruiting. I will not accept that this is the pinnacle of recruiting for petrino.

And thanks for the compliment on my thickness up there! my girlfriend said the same thing like 3 hours ago.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Any chance we sign Darius Philon?  Committed to Bama but now seems has been asked to greyshirt there.  ***DE.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogye West on February 01, 2012, 12:47:30 PM

Wish i knew if he was counting towards the '12 class or counting back to the '11 class. 

I would assume the '11 class since that's when he originally committed and (to my knowledge) we never filled that spot. Hopefully that's the case
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 12:47:59 PM
I would assume the '11 class since that's when he originally committed and (to my knowledge) we never filled that spot. Hopefully that's the case

Twitters say '11.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 12:48:04 PM
Every national champ for the past ten years signs top 10 classes every year. Rivals may not know shit but thats one hell of a pattern.

Unpossible.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:48:37 PM
puthy eater
Do love to eat pussy
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 12:51:06 PM
Tim Horton has to be re-evaluated here right? We will finish 10th in the sec after a top 5 finish,  and we have lost the top instate recruit the last 3 going on 4 years. Say what you want about those instate kids, they had scholly offers from us. It's dissapointing to say the least.
He is the lead recruiter for Tenpenny, DGB and Dyer I believe.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 12:51:10 PM
Any chance we sign Darius Philon?  Committed to Bama but now seems has been asked to greyshirt there.  ***DE.

Have we even offered him? Had any contact with him at all? Rivals doesn't even show him on our radar, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Like I said all of 1 page ago:


Darius Philon, a DE/DT from Alabama, had his scholly offer reverted to a grayshirt by Saban and Bama.  He put on the Bama hat and went through the shennanigans, but he didn't sign/fax his LOI yet.  Supposedly we're in his ear offering the full ride.  Teammate of Jamichael Winston.  I'd be pretty damn happy with that kind of surprise on NSD.  Very good player with offers from Bama, Auburn, and others.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 12:54:52 PM
Tim Horton has to be re-evaluated here right? We will finish 10th in the sec after a top 5 finish,  and we have lost the top instate recruit the last 3 going on 4 years. Say what you want about those instate kids, they had scholly offers from us. It's dissapointing to say the least.

According to 247 Sports, Jeremy Ward is our top in-state prospect this year.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 01, 2012, 12:55:03 PM
Caveman, Black Santa, Trooper.... 17 year olds eat their shit up. And we don't have one.  However we do have one of the best talent evaluators in the business.  Wouldn't mind having a jester to help us out though.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 12:55:09 PM
Every national champ for the past ten years signs top 10 classes every year. Rivals may not know shit but thats one hell of a pattern.

Auburn 2008 ranked 19th behind Arkansas @ 18
Auburn 2009 ranked 25th behind Arkansas @ 20

So every national champion in the last 10 years, doesn't sign a top 10 class every year.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 12:55:34 PM
Unpossible.
Until someone does the leg work to prove me wrong im going with it!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
Like I said all of 1 page ago:


Darius Philon, a DE/DT from Alabama, had his scholly offer reverted to a grayshirt by Saban and Bama.  He put on the Bama hat and went through the shennanigans, but he didn't sign/fax his LOI yet.  Supposedly we're in his ear offering the full ride.  Teammate of Jamichael Winston.  I'd be pretty damn happy with that kind of surprise on NSD.  Very good player with offers from Bama, Auburn, and others.

Sorry - missed the post.

Yeah. That'd be a nice pick up. Hopefully Winston is in his ear too.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 12:57:43 PM
Since we whiffed on our big WRs, I'd feel better picking up more defense.  We have WRs for miles.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Since we whiffed on our big WRs, I'd feel better picking up more defense.  We have WRs for miles.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 01:02:36 PM
Until someone does the leg work to prove me wrong im going with it!
Auburn 2008 ranked 19th behind Arkansas @ 18
Auburn 2009 ranked 25th behind Arkansas @ 20

So every national champion in the last 10 years, doesn't sign a top 10 class every year.



Now run off of a cliff and fall into a fire...and take PRJ with you.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: OP on February 01, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Can somebody please explain to me why so many people seem to evaluating this class based on who didn’t sign rather than who did?  Looking over the current signees, I really don’t see much to bitch about.  They may be shy on “home runs,” but it looks like a solid group—it’s not like the Hogs are settling for a bunch of 2-stars they flipped from LA Tech and So Miss.

Remember also the current staff isn’t looking at every recruit as an immediate contributor.  They like to red-shirt as many as possible, and it appears they can develop players quite well.

While I agree that recruiting rankings correlate to success on the field, they are only one part of the equation so you can’t necessarily generalize conclusions.  There are many other factors involved, and a perceived weakness in recruiting can be overcome (and/or eventually proven wrong) by strengths elsewhere.  Very few teams are strong in all areas.

I think it useful to remember that Petrino hasn’t recruited a “stellar” class here yet, but the product he puts on the field has been significantly above average the last 2 years (compare to Texas & Florida).  Evidence suggests the staff knows what they are doing.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 01:14:24 PM
Now run off of a cliff and fall into a fire...and take PRJ with you.
Thats all you got? That and puussy eater?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 01:17:51 PM
Thats all you got? That and puussy eater?
why waste material on a dumas?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogye West on February 01, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Can somebody please explain to me why so many people seem to evaluating this class based on who didn’t sign rather than who did?  Looking over the current signees, I really don’t see much to bitch about.  They may be shy on “home runs,” but it looks like a solid group—it’s not like the Hogs are settling for a bunch of 2-stars they flipped from LA Tech and So Miss.

Remember also the current staff isn’t looking at every recruit as an immediate contributor.  They like to red-shirt as many as possible, and it appears they can develop players quite well.

While I agree that recruiting rankings correlate to success on the field, they are only one part of the equation so you can’t necessarily generalize conclusions.  There are many other factors involved, and a perceived weakness in recruiting can be overcome (and/or eventually proven wrong) by strengths elsewhere.  Very few teams are strong in all areas.

I think it useful to remember that Petrino hasn’t recruited a “stellar” class here yet, but the product he puts on the field has been significantly above average the last 2 years (compare to Texas & Florida).  Evidence suggests the staff knows what they are doing.


I don't think it's us not evaluating who we didn't get over who we did, but a lot of us (myself included) thought that after the recent success of our team on the national scale would really boost our recruiting into a higher level that we have never seen before and we can't seem to figure out why it hasn't. All of us know that these players will be good if not great that we are getting. I don't want to be good. I want to be great. In everything in college football. I want to have the best QB, the best RB, the best offense, the best defense, best coaching, best facilities, and sure as shit the best recruiting class. Should I care about what some people say on recruiting sites about who's good and who's not? No, but I do. Because of it's elements of RANKINGS. We see those rankings and we want to be number one in it, just like everything else in college football. If they didn't have that rankings index and just used stars for individual purposes, no one would probably care as much. For all we know in the end Quinta Funderburk could be 20x the WR of DGB, but I want that exposure and that credit with those stupid talking heads on ESPN and Rivals saying our names and saying how amazing our class is just like I want them saying how amazing our offense is and how amazing our team and coach is. Being from Arkansas we get disrespected all the time in every aspect from the national world. Most morons couldn't even point us out on a fucking globe. So anytime I can get a little compliment, a little positive exposure, or even a little glamor, I'll take it all the damn time. Because it doesn't come often.

I know we will all be over this is a very short time. We will be looking to next season as the next step and I have faith in every part of the team today. But it still will piss me off seeing lesser teams like Mizzou or whoever get a recruit that they want, but don't deserve.

Fuck 'em all. When we come in next season, we are crackin' skulls mother fuckers
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 01, 2012, 01:29:55 PM
Whaaaaaaat? 

HImagazine Hawgs Illustrated
Arkanas' 2011 signee Demetrius Dean - the Fayetteville High tight end - is enrolled, on campus and working out with the team.

Evidently he's counting towards this year's class.  So there's number 23.  2 spots left, I guess.

If he is in shape this kid could be a great tight end.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 01:31:30 PM
I don't think it's us not evaluating who we didn't get over who we did, but a lot of us (myself included) thought that after the recent success of our team on the national scale would really boost our recruiting into a higher level that we have never seen before and we can't seem to figure out why it hasn't. All of us know that these players will be good if not great that we are getting. I don't want to be good. I want to be great. In everything in college football. I want to have the best QB, the best RB, the best offense, the best defense, best coaching, best facilities, and sure as aMm the best recruiting class. Should I care about what some people say on recruiting sites about who's good and who's not? No, but I do. Because of it's elements of RANKINGS. We see those rankings and we want to be number one in it, just like everything else in college football. If they didn't have that rankings index and just used stars for individual purposes, no one would probably care as much. For all we know in the end Quinta Funderburk could be 20x the WR of DGB, but I want that exposure and that credit with those stupid talking heads on ESPN and Rivals saying our names and saying how amazing our class is just like I want them saying how amazing our offense is and how amazing our team and coach is. Being from Arkansas we get disrespected all the time in every aspect from the national world. Most morons couldn't even point us out on a fricking globe. So anytime I can get a little compliment, a little positive exposure, or even a little glamor, I'll take it all the damn time. Because it doesn't come often.

I know we will all be over this is a very short time. We will be looking to next season as the next step and I have faith in every part of the team today. But it still will piss me off seeing lesser teams like Mizzou or whoever get a recruit that they want, but don't deserve.

frick 'em all. When we come in next season, we are crackin' skulls mother frickers
Right on!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 01, 2012, 01:33:02 PM
why waste material on a dumas?
Coming from the asshat
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 01:33:42 PM
I'm pissed at DGB, but I also fully believe his choice today hurts himself more than it does Arkansas.

Remember how we were getting pissed at Auburn there for a while over recruiting?  Well, I wouldn't trade places with them right now, and if we can beat them in Auburn this year, that will be 4 out of the last 5 years we've beaten Auburn.

Mizzou isn't Auburn.  Mizzou is a team who happened to have the best ranked WR recruit living in their state and hand delivered to them by family and friends.  I'm as scared of Mizzou as I am of Vanderbilt.

We will never, ever get every single recruit we want.  And if we do, that means we will have been winning some championships in advance of that feat. 



Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 01:35:26 PM

She is also incredibly fine.


Is this the Lainie Bishop in question?

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2EQhgdUvJopkZmFrT6IM-d2UZq_ysk4Yk5igAYQzIEe8drahp)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ManBearHog on February 01, 2012, 01:37:22 PM
She looks like a fiiiiilthy woman. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 01, 2012, 01:41:21 PM
Dean counts toward 2011 per Davenport.

Joey Warburg signs in 1/2 an hour or so, between us an Illinois.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 01:43:38 PM
Looks like ESPNu decided not to retain Houston's services for the afternoon segment. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
Dean counts toward 2011 per Davenport.

Joey Warburg signs in 1/2 an hour or so, between us an Illinois.

If he signs with Arkansas I think that means we're not getting Diamond.  Hate to say it, but go Illini!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ups_hog on February 01, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
Dean counts toward 2011 per Davenport.

Joey Warburg signs in 1/2 an hour or so, between us an Illinois.

So are we hoping he signs with IL due to the Diamond thing?


Never mind.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: geohul on February 01, 2012, 01:50:43 PM
I don't think it's us not evaluating who we didn't get over who we did, but a lot of us (myself included) thought that after the recent success of our team on the national scale would really boost our recruiting into a higher level that we have never seen before and we can't seem to figure out why it hasn't. All of us know that these players will be good if not great that we are getting. I don't want to be good. I want to be great. In everything in college football. I want to have the best QB, the best RB, the best offense, the best defense, best coaching, best facilities, and sure as shit the best recruiting class. Should I care about what some people say on recruiting sites about who's good and who's not? No, but I do. Because of it's elements of RANKINGS. We see those rankings and we want to be number one in it, just like everything else in college football. If they didn't have that rankings index and just used stars for individual purposes, no one would probably care as much. For all we know in the end Quinta Funderburk could be 20x the WR of DGB, but I want that exposure and that credit with those stupid talking heads on ESPN and Rivals saying our names and saying how amazing our class is just like I want them saying how amazing our offense is and how amazing our team and coach is. Being from Arkansas we get disrespected all the time in every aspect from the national world. Most morons couldn't even point us out on a fucking globe. So anytime I can get a little compliment, a little positive exposure, or even a little glamor, I'll take it all the damn time. Because it doesn't come often.

I know we will all be over this is a very short time. We will be looking to next season as the next step and I have faith in every part of the team today. But it still will piss me off seeing lesser teams like Mizzou or whoever get a recruit that they want, but don't deserve.

Fuck 'em all. When we come in next season, we are crackin' skulls mother fuckers
This is dead on.  I can't be the only one that agrees either. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 01:52:19 PM

@seanceglinsky Sean Ceglinsky
Pac-12 doesn't look like destination for Seth Jacobs of Arroyo Grande (Ca.) My pick: #Arkansas.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 01:56:47 PM
@seanceglinsky Sean Ceglinsky
Pac-12 doesn't look like destination for Seth Jacobs of Arroyo Grande (Ca.) My pick: #Arkansas.

Hope so:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Seth-Jacobs-124725
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 02:00:09 PM
We may still take Warburg even if we take Diamond and not take another WR.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 02:14:15 PM
Apparently its between us, Ok St and Colorado for Seth Jacobs:  http://denver.sbnation.com/colorado-buffaloes/2012/2/1/2764493/seth-jacobs-recruiting-national-signing-day-2012-colorado-arkansas-oklahoma-state
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jacobp on February 01, 2012, 02:19:22 PM
Apparently its between us, Ok St and Colorado for Seth Jacobs:  http://denver.sbnation.com/colorado-buffaloes/2012/2/1/2764493/seth-jacobs-recruiting-national-signing-day-2012-colorado-arkansas-oklahoma-state
You give me two 4* linebackers, to go with brock Haman who redhshirted and Flynn getting a shot at MLB, and I can give two fricks about missing out on DGB.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
I've been at home today drinking a few beers and watching the ESPNU signing day thing.

Apart from missing on DGB, in 6+ hours Arkansas hasn't been mentioned one time. Not once.

WTF?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 01, 2012, 02:24:52 PM

Offensive Line: We needed help and picked up Ward and Boyd. Ward is believed to be a solid pick up...we'll see about Boyd down the line. We really need Diamond and I guess we'll just have to wait to see if we can close on him. Getting 3 solid OLs in this class I feel is a must but what the fuck do I know. It's worth noting we picked up a kid like way late last season at OT that was redshirted, I think we beat out Wisconsin for him.

Runningback seems to be an over looked portion of the class today. Jon Williams and Donovan Roberts were very productive backs in high school, both have decent size and excellent speed. Are they the 5 star guys? No but lets give these guys a chance before jumping off a cliff.

Linebacker/DEs: Otha Peters, AJ Turner, Austin Flynn, Taiwan Johnson, and JaMichael Winston highlight this group. We needed help and we need to keep piling on quality defensive guys. Have we whiffed on a few guys we really wanted this season in this area? No doubt but I feel like this staff pulled together a pretty good group that will go with what we got last year.

Defensive Backs: Will Hines and Ray Buchanan Jr. are the two dbs we signed so far...there may a couple guys listed as athletes move over to db or perhaps there is a wr listed that might be asked to come over to the other side. Perhaps a little bit under the radar/lack luster but overall I think we are in good shape here. Ray comes from good stock...and Will Hines also has the pedegree to be a good one. Jared Collins is also signed up.

WR/ATH: Oh boo fucking hoo we only ended up with Keon Hatcher, DeArthur Cowan, Erick Hawkins, Nate Holmes, Demetrius Wilson and Defonta Lowe. Well some how I think we'll survive.

TE: Demetrius Dean 6-3/250 & Jeremy Sprinkle....and he's 6-6/220. Perhaps not superstars but we'll see. Sprinkle smacks of Miles-Nash 2.0, Dean was seen as a talent a couple years ago and did not play at all while at NWACC.

All in all I say we addressed some needs, now the talk turns to who gets early playing time and that I can't answer. I think the easy money is on Flynn and Peters with Hines being in that mix as well. We need depth on offensive line but also redshirted a couple guys that might be ready to help in 2012. I look for the bulk of this class to be redshirted which is good...if you notice we seem to be doing well at winning 10+ games while reshirting the shit out of guys.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 02:25:40 PM
You give me two 4* linebackers, to go with brock Haman who redhshirted and Flynn getting a shot at MLB, and I can give two fricks about missing out on DGB.



I hate that we missed tbpDGB, but I agree that the hurt would fade quickly with the upgrade on defense.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 02:28:44 PM
We need depth on offensive line but also redshirted a couple guys that might be ready to help in 2012.

I don't think you'll see anymore true freshman playing for awhile.  Last year was a little different, but they signed a ton of OL last year.  I think OL will be a strength for us next season.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
I don't think you'll see anymore true freshman playing for awhile.  Last year was a little different, but they signed a ton of OL last year.  I think OL will be a strength for us next season.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing Smothers.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on February 01, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
Just listening to F'baum a bit and heard an interview with a Mizzou beat writer about DGB.  He said they've been "on him" since middle school, whatever that means exactly for a middle school kid. 

Also said one of their coaches bascially set up camp in Springfield - he didn't elaborate on that but I guess that's within the rules?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 02:35:08 PM
I'm pissed at DGB, but I also fully believe his choice today hurts himself more than it does Arkansas.

Remember how we were getting pissed at Auburn there for a while over recruiting?  Well, I wouldn't trade places with them right now, and if we can beat them in Auburn this year, that will be 4 out of the last 5 years we've beaten Auburn.

Mizzou isn't Auburn.  Mizzou is a team who happened to have the best ranked WR recruit living in their state and hand delivered to them by family and friends.  I'm as scared of Mizzou as I am of Vanderbilt.

We will never, ever get every single recruit we want.  And if we do, that means we will have been winning some championships in advance of that feat.

I'd be more worried about Vandy than Mizzou, personally. And, I don't mean that as a slap at Mizzou. Vandy's come along.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Vin! This could be the sleeper of the class. 


ps: I wanted to say that first and be the gayest.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Biff Malibu on February 01, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
Vin! This could be the sleeper of the class. 


ps: I wanted to say that first and be the gayest.

I see you like your pussy shaved, eh?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 03:14:46 PM
Looks like ESPNu decided not to retain Houston's services for the afternoon segment.

I stand corrected.  Uh, oh.  Houston might get to draw on the whiteboard.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Magnum PIG on February 01, 2012, 03:16:42 PM
Just listening to F'baum a bit and heard an interview with a Mizzou beat writer about DGB.  He said they've been "on him" since middle school, whatever that means exactly for a middle school kid.

Also said one of their coaches bascially set up camp in Springfield - he didn't elaborate on that but I guess that's within the rules?

I hear Sandusky used to recruit that way as well.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: acohrs02 on February 01, 2012, 03:21:29 PM
I hear Sandusky used to recruit that way as well.

Sandusky method is "in them" not "on."
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 01, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
Davenport updated his site, Dean WILL count toward 2012.   :dohh:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Mike Slive on February 01, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
So will we still play games next year?   :stache:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.

Goddam there's a lot of stupid in this thread.  I've worked hard on being kinder and gentler but son of a whore stupid aMm like this plus all the other dumbass aMm in this thread makes that damn near impossible.

One ranking is based on projection, one ranking is based on actual production.  How is that so fricking hard to understand?

#5 team in the nation with a top 10 projection for next year and ya'll are fricking whining about what a bunch of draft nerds think about the kids we sign and our overall recruiting.  It's no wonder the national media makes fun of fans when you get some of the stupid aMm that's been posted in this thread.

But I knew it would be like this if we didn't sign dGB.  Knew that this would bring the retards out of the closet.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Temple of the Hog on February 01, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
As far as the last 10 years national champions' rankings go, they aren't all top 10s.  In fact there are a few schools (OU, UGA, Tenn, FSU) with top 10s just as often that haven't sniffed a title any closer than us.  Of course, there's another argument to be made about how shitty USC has been compared to the talent they have acquired since their title.  Here's the rankings:

Bama - 1,5,1,1,10,11,18,15,49,30
AU - 7,4,19,20,7,10,13,21,11,6
LSU - 6,6,2,11,4,7,22,2,1,15
UF - 12,2,11,3,1,2,15,7,2,20
UT - 3,3,5,14,5,5,20,10,15,1
USC - 4,1,4,8,2,1,1,1,3,13

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Magnum PIG on February 01, 2012, 03:39:59 PM
As far as the last 10 years national champions' rankings go, they aren't all top 10s.  In fact there are a few schools (OU, UGA, Tenn, FSU) with top 10s just as often that haven't sniffed a title any closer than us.  Of course, there's another argument to be made about how shitty USC has been compared to the talent they have acquired since their title.  Here's the rankings:

Bama - 1,5,1,1,10,11,18,15,49,30
AU - 7,4,19,20,7,10,13,21,11,6
LSU - 6,6,2,11,4,7,22,2,1,15
UF - 12,2,11,3,1,2,15,7,2,20
UT - 3,3,5,14,5,5,20,10,15,1
USC - 4,1,4,8,2,1,1,1,3,13

What are the years for these rankings? Is it 2002-2011 and does your list go 2011 on the left down to 2002 on the right?  Because it has been a while since Bama had the 30th and 49th ranked class.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 01, 2012, 03:40:32 PM
If he signs with Arkansas I think that means we're not getting Diamond.  Hate to say it, but go Illini!

In an odd turn, Warburg to Purdue.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on February 01, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
In an odd turn, Warburg to Purdue.

So it's Diamond to Ellanoise?

Bummer.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
So it's Diamond to Ellanoise?

Bummer.
Huh?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 03:48:31 PM
In an odd turn, Warburg to Purdue.

Regardless, I still take Warburg going elsewhere as a good sign.  We're almost done with the day...I don't think we're waiting "just because." I think Diamond pledged to the U of A, is waiting until Friday, and will sign with us then.  Or, for that matter, he might have already sent in his LOI but made his pledge not to release that information.  But I think this sounds good for us...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 03:51:43 PM
#24 is Darius Philbin DT that Bama fucked over
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TUSK_U on February 01, 2012, 03:52:10 PM
Dariuss Philon to Arkansas. Guess JaMichael was recrootin him pretty hard as well. Glad Sabah reneged on him.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: JoeBobHog on February 01, 2012, 03:53:32 PM
Dariuss Philon to Arkansas. Guess JaMichael was recrootin him pretty hard as well. Glad Sabah reneged on him.


then Dean can have an XXXXL greyshirt.



 :notexas:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Temple of the Hog on February 01, 2012, 03:54:25 PM
What are the years for these rankings? Is it 2002-2011 and does your list go 2011 on the left down to 2002 on the right?  Because it has been a while since Bama had the 30th and 49th ranked class.

yeah 2011-2002
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: enl35794 on February 01, 2012, 03:55:31 PM
 :smirey:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 03:56:28 PM
That would be her. She's a Mizzou fan of course. Guess we need to find a fine white chick who's willing to get DD'ed by some elite prospects. Couldn't hurt.

 :stunned: Jesus..get a life.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 03:57:45 PM
#24 is Darius Philbin DT that Bama fucked over

I'm sure he'll forget all about that when we play them.  ;)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: lawtiger on February 01, 2012, 03:58:51 PM
#24 is Darius Philbin DT that Bama fucked over

Please get this disgruntled motherfucker to spill the beans on $aban's recruiting.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 04:00:45 PM
:stunned: Jesus..get a life.

I second that.

Time to let that go. Conjecturing on and on about what motivated DGB to choose Mizzou only makes us look like Nobvillers. Talking unsubstantiated trash about his lady friend only makes us look like [cringe] Tigerboarders.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
Please get this disgruntled motherfucker to spill the beans on $aban's recruiting.

How's Auburn's day gone? Get everyone you expected? Any surprise flips in your favor?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 04:04:57 PM
Goddam there's a lot of stupid in this thread.  I've worked hard on being kinder and gentler but son of a whore stupid aMm like this plus all the other dumbass aMm in this thread makes that damn near impossible.

One ranking is based on projection, one ranking is based on actual production.  How is that so fricking hard to understand?

#5 team in the nation with a top 10 projection for next year and ya'll are fricking whining about what a bunch of draft nerds think about the kids we sign and our overall recruiting.  It's no wonder the national media makes fun of fans when you get some of the stupid aMm that's been posted in this thread.

But I knew it would be like this if we didn't sign dGB.  Knew that this would bring the retards out of the closet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ys4oIwj6yw
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
#24 is Darius Philbin DT that Bama fricked over

This is a huge get, IMO. We went from no DT's in this class to having a guy that was good enough for Saban fall into our laps.  VERY happy about this.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:20:12 PM
Apparently its between us, Ok St and Colorado for Seth Jacobs:  http://denver.sbnation.com/colorado-buffaloes/2012/2/1/2764493/seth-jacobs-recruiting-national-signing-day-2012-colorado-arkansas-oklahoma-state


So, did he pick one?

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hog Leg on February 01, 2012, 04:21:38 PM
Does anyone have inside info regarding the coach Petrino recruiting show?  Is he doing one of these like years past?  Going to find nearest screen door and light it on fire.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
This is a huge get, IMO. We went from no DT's in this class to having a guy that was good enough for Saban fall into our laps.  VERY happy about this.

His Rivals profile states he's a DE. Do we know for sure if he'll play DT? Seems like we signed a crapload of DEs this year already.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
Dariuss Philon to Arkansas. Guess JaMichael was recrootin him pretty hard as well. Glad Sabah reneged on him.


Did he actually sign with us?

According to this article (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/alabama_commitment_darius_phil_1.html), he was wavering from his Alabama commitment, but went ahead and put on the Alabama cap at the signing ceremony.

Of course, I guess a signed LOI trumps a cap choice any day. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ups_hog on February 01, 2012, 04:23:53 PM

So, did he pick one?

8:30 tonight.

Does anyone have inside info regarding the coach Petrino recruiting show?  Is he doing one of these like years past?  Going to find nearest screen door and light it on fire.

It's live right now on Razorvision.  And yes, it's free.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 04:25:40 PM

So, did he pick one?

He's not announcing until 6:30pm pacific time, I think.  Regardless, we should know where we stand with Diamond by tonight if Dean really counts towards 2012.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:26:48 PM


All you Central Arkansans don't forget Signing Day in the Rock tomorrow evening at Verizon Arena.

If you're man enough, maybe you can ask Petrino to his face why he didn't land DGB.

 :gritscoon:

Signing Day in the Rock (http://www.alltelarena.com/concerts-and-shows/bank-of-the-ozarks-presents-signing-day-in-the-rock-with-coach-bobby-petrino)

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
His Rivals profile states he's a DE. Do we know for sure if he'll play DT? Seems like we signed a crapload of DEs this year already.

I'm just assuming that he'll be a DT given our numbers at DE and his size (6'1" and 285). 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 01, 2012, 04:29:20 PM

Did he actually sign with us?

According to this article (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/alabama_commitment_darius_phil_1.html), he was wavering from his Alabama commitment, but went ahead and put on the Alabama cap at the signing ceremony.

Of course, I guess a signed LOI trumps a cap choice any day.

Yes he signed.  He's going to be a DT.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hog Leg on February 01, 2012, 04:29:40 PM

All you Central Arkansans don't forget Signing Day in the Rock tomorrow evening at Verizon Arena.

If you're man enough, maybe you can ask Petrino to his face why he didn't land DGB.

 :gritscoon:

Signing Day in the Rock (http://www.alltelarena.com/concerts-and-shows/bank-of-the-ozarks-presents-signing-day-in-the-rock-with-coach-bobby-petrino)

Will the revolution be televised at some point?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 04:30:17 PM

Did he actually sign with us?

According to this article (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/alabama_commitment_darius_phil_1.html), he was wavering from his Alabama commitment, but went ahead and put on the Alabama cap at the signing ceremony.

Of course, I guess a signed LOI trumps a cap choice any day.

What a strange scene.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 01, 2012, 04:31:31 PM
What a strange scene.

that video is from 2011

nevermind, i'm as confused as Philon is.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
What a strange scene.


They updated that article since I first read it to say that he signed.

But I bet that was pretty uncomfortable for everyone who was there, especially those who happened to be Tide fans.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 04:33:41 PM
Davenport updated his site, Dean WILL count toward 2012.   :dohh:
Motherfuck
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:34:15 PM

All you Central Arkansans don't forget Signing Day in the Rock tomorrow evening at Verizon Arena.

If you're man enough, maybe you can ask Petrino to his face why he didn't land DGB.

 :gritscoon:

Signing Day in the Rock (http://www.alltelarena.com/concerts-and-shows/bank-of-the-ozarks-presents-signing-day-in-the-rock-with-coach-bobby-petrino)


Nevermind, it's sold out.

SOLD OUT!!! (http://www.lrrazorbackclub.com/?q=node/320)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: lawtiger on February 01, 2012, 04:36:27 PM
How's Auburn's day gone? Get everyone you expected? Any surprise flips in your favor?

Not as good a day as some had hoped.  Still a very solid class...with 5 or so spots still to give. 

Got some kids who were wavering in the wake of the coaching changes and lost a few as well.

Life goes on.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 01, 2012, 04:40:41 PM
Not as good a day as some had hoped.  Still a very solid class...with 5 or so spots still to give. 

Got some kids who were wavering in the wake of the coaching changes and lost a few as well.

Life goes on.

At least you can rest assured knowing that Chizik is so great at player development.   :D
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 04:41:58 PM
Motherfuck

Evidently Petrino said he wasn't sure if Dean will count towards 2011 or 2012 yet. 

So maybe they haven't actually given him a scholarship yet...could be one of those things where they said, "you can have your day, but if Diamond/Neal/Jacobs want to sign, they get the scholarship and you grayshirt."
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 01, 2012, 04:48:47 PM
Evidently Petrino said he wasn't sure if Dean will count towards 2011 or 2012 yet. 

So maybe they haven't actually given him a scholarship yet...could be one of those things where they said, "you can have your day, but if Diamond/Neal/Jacobs want to sign, they get the scholarship and you grayshirt."

I watched the entire signing day press conference on razorvision.  The Petrion seemed happy with Demetrius Dean.  He said he looked great this morning (apparently they had a practice) and that it jumps out at you how athletic he is.  He said that he feels he could be a DJ Williams type guy.

Petrino was asked if about the empty spot (only listed 24 guys in the presser) and he got a really big smile.  Said they're working on getting someone else, but we'll have to see.

Petrino was also asked about DGB.  First he said he wished him nothing but the best.  He said he thought they did a great job recruiting him and that his teams have finished number one in passing offense in the SEC the past 3 years in a row so he feels like they do a good job of developing quarterbacks and receivers. 

At another point in the press conference he said he feels really good about the receivers they have (mentioned Cobi, Wade, Javontee, among others) and said he feels really good about the ones coming in. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on February 01, 2012, 04:49:34 PM

Did he actually sign with us?

According to this article (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/alabama_commitment_darius_phil_1.html), he was wavering from his Alabama commitment, but went ahead and put on the Alabama cap at the signing ceremony.

Of course, I guess a signed LOI trumps a cap choice any day.

Are you sure it is an Alabama cap, I mean the "A's" are look similar it is hard to tell.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 01, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
per @Dedsports 
Ascolese:  Our class is sick.  Everyone is talking about Beckham, but we're going to smack him in the mouth if he doesn't want to be with us.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:51:52 PM
Will the revolution be televised at some point?


Not that I know of.



Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 01, 2012, 04:53:47 PM
Are you sure it is an Alabama cap, I mean the "A's" are look similar it is hard to tell.

What I heard on the radio is he put on a Bama cap at his signing day and then found out they were out of spots and Bama asked him to greyshirt.  His teammates said he would go to Arkansas instead.  It took a while to sort out, but that's what happened and he's a hog.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:55:05 PM
per @Dedsports 
Ascolese:  Our class is sick.  Everyone is talking about Beckham, but we're going to smack him in the mouth if he doesn't want to be with us.

 :beer:

I'm liking this guy a lot.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: GuinnessHog on February 01, 2012, 04:56:53 PM
I'm liking this guy a lot.

I hope he fists pumps when he makes a tackle
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 01, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
I'm liking this guy a lot.

Honorary woopigger, dis guy is.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 04:59:33 PM
per @Dedsports 
Ascolese:  Our class is sick.  Everyone is talking about Beckham, but we're going to smack him in the mouth if he doesn't want to be with us.

 :beer:

That's the Jersey spirit!!!!

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 01, 2012, 05:01:35 PM
Breakem like Beckham.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hog Leg on February 01, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
per @Dedsports 
Ascolese:  Our class is sick.  Everyone is talking about Beckham, but we're going to smack him in the mouth if he doesn't want to be with us.

 :beer:

Come at me bro!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 01, 2012, 05:14:14 PM
Are you sure it is an Alabama cap, I mean the "A's" are look similar it is hard to tell.

True, but it also had a "L-A-B-A-M-A" on it as well.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TravelHog on February 01, 2012, 05:15:08 PM
per @Dedsports 
Ascolese:  Our class is sick.  Everyone is talking about Beckham, but we're going to smack him in the mouth if he doesn't want to be with us.

 :beer:


I'm really starting to like this kid, in a non-Sandusky way.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ArkGuy on February 01, 2012, 05:20:25 PM
Will the revolution be televised at some point?

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6196/6027222018_7a36d341c9.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
Come at me bro!


(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/085/290/come%20at%20me%20bro.jpg?1318992465)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on February 01, 2012, 05:25:07 PM
True, but it also had a "L-A-B-A-M-A" on it as well.

Labamba was a good movie. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Mike Slive on February 01, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Labamba was a good movie. :thumbup:

Wow. I was about to say the same thing. So could you PM me pics of your significant other's boobies?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Nukinhawg on February 01, 2012, 05:29:21 PM
per @Dedsports 
Ascolese:  Our class is sick.  Everyone is talking about Beckham, but we're going to smack him in the mouth if he doesn't want to be with us.

 :beer:

Haven't seen him play a down but he has just become my second favorite (current) Razorback, just behind Small.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
True, but it also had a "L-A-B-A-M-A" on it as well.


Labama Bokota (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labama_Bokota)?

(http://in2eastafrica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Bokota-Labama.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 01, 2012, 05:35:58 PM
Haven't seen him play a down but he has just become my second favorite (current) Razorback, just behind Small.

And it might not take much to overtake him for me. Can't wait to see this kid play.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Zoso on February 01, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
True, but it also had a "L-A-B-A-M-A" on it as well.

I voted for L-A-C-A-I-N
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on February 01, 2012, 05:51:17 PM
Wow. I was about to say the same thing. So could you PM me pics of your significant other's boobies?

As soon as I get Jennifer Aniston to say "yes," I will.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HipHog on February 01, 2012, 05:59:07 PM
seth jacobs signed yet?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:03:36 PM
seth jacobs signed yet?
No. Later this evening between Arkansas, Oklahoma State and Colorado.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on February 01, 2012, 06:06:45 PM

Subliznime



24/7
Scout




ESPN/Rivals
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: McCarroll21 on February 01, 2012, 06:16:57 PM
No. Later this evening between Arkansas, Oklahoma State and Colorado.

Would be nice to know how many spots we have left regarding Dean.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
Would be nice to know how many spots we have left regarding Dean.
One. Dean counts toward the this year's class.  :suicide:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 01, 2012, 06:18:04 PM
Would be nice to know how many spots we have left regarding Dean.

RMPL
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 06:22:58 PM
One. Dean counts toward the this year's class.  :suicide:

Last I heard, Petrino himself doesn't even know which class Dean will count towards.  Said so in his press conference.

Has that changed?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:23:12 PM
Booger is saying now that we take Diamond or Neal or nobody. It won't be Jacobs.

(http://minaday.com/movies/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/neil-diamond.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:23:22 PM
Last I heard, Petrino himself doesn't even know which class Dean will count towards.  Said so in his press conference.

Has that changed?
yes
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on February 01, 2012, 06:28:19 PM
I watched some of the press conference. Petrino seemed very pleased and satisfied. That's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 06:30:14 PM
Just so you know what we were up against:

@Dave_Matter In April, 3 hours before David Yost's wife gave birth to their son, he texted DGB, offered naming rights if he committed.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Micky O'Boarke on February 01, 2012, 06:33:04 PM
Just so you know what we were up against:

@Dave_Matter In April, 3 hours before David Yost's wife gave birth to their son, he texted DGB, offered naming rights if he committed.

This has to be fake!!!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HipHog on February 01, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
Arkansas signs the No. 14 class in the nation according to Max Emfinger's MEARS system
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 01, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Arkansas signs the No. 14 class in the nation according to Max Emfinger's MEARS system

I do believe he still has Gardner on our list though, and as the highest rated signee we have.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Clark on February 01, 2012, 06:52:26 PM
This has to be fake!!!
Exactly. No way that dude has kids.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: GeoHogsGeo on February 01, 2012, 06:53:50 PM
I watched some of the press conference. Petrino seemed very pleased and satisfied. That's good enough for me.

Exactly what I was thinking.  If we are really going to put some emphasis on the stars, there is a shit load of guys that are 3 stars but rated at 5.7...just below the 4-star cutoff. I firmly believe BMFP will coach them up a notch or two before their career is over.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 07:06:44 PM
I left a little early from the signing day event in Fayetteville, as I have a thing to do a little bit later, but it was good.

Same old coach Petrino.  Lots of enthusiasm, a few jokes, maybe a few beers, and he knows exactly why he likes each and every guy out there.  I like Haynes, talk about a switch from Willy.  He is enthusiastic and sharp, seems intense.

There's so much attention to detail with these guys.  Every player, they tell you exactly what is great about them, some of it is minutiae your typical fan would never notice or even think about.

I love this coaching staff.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
Not as good a day as some had hoped.  Still a very solid class...with 5 or so spots still to give. 

Got some kids who were wavering in the wake of the coaching changes and lost a few as well.

Life goes on.

True dat.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Booger is saying now that we take Diamond or Neal or nobody. It won't be Jacobs.

(http://minaday.com/movies/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/neil-diamond.jpg)


So has Jacobs actually signed with anybody yet?

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 08:40:51 PM

So has Jacobs actually signed with anybody yet?

OSU
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 08:44:33 PM
OSU


Well I suppose he can go eat a dick, then.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 08:45:41 PM

Well I suppose he can go eat a dick, then.

Yeah, fuck that fucker.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: MBAHog on February 01, 2012, 08:47:34 PM
OSU

So now it's Diamond or we finish with 24?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
So now it's Diamond or we finish with 24?

Neal is still out there.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
Yeah, fuck that fucker.


That's what I'm saying, keeping people up to all hours of the evening just to sign with a bunch of dickheads like OSU.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 08:52:27 PM
So now it's Diamond or we finish with 24?
Did you even read the post? If you believe the talking heads we weren't going to offer Jacobs and roll the dice with either Neal or Diamond.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 08:54:28 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Dorial-Green-Beckham-inside-the-chase-for-nations-top-recruit-020112

But even after Dorial told his parents of his decision, there was still plenty of other drama, such as his college choice being reported a day later by the Tulsa World, an Arkansas booster leaving a voicemail on John Beckham’s cell phone indicating he was considering making a financial donation to Hillcrest High, and Tracy Beckham throwing up less than two hours before Dorial’s announcement.


 :stunned:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 08:57:05 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Dorial-Green-Beckham-inside-the-chase-for-nations-top-recruit-020112

But even after Dorial told his parents of his decision, there was still plenty of other drama, such as his college choice being reported a day later by the Tulsa World, an Arkansas booster leaving a voicemail on John Beckham’s cell phone indicating he was considering making a financial donation to Hillcrest High, and Tracy Beckham throwing up less than two hours before Dorial’s announcement.


 :stunned:

I'm glad he offered, but not on a voice mail.

 realstunned

 :stache:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 09:00:38 PM
Besides Arkansas’ graduation rate, Tracy Beckham was also worried about Petrino “having a little reputation,” which she hesitated to discuss.

“It’s what everybody will tell you, that he left his team in midseason,” she said in reference to Petrino’s resignation in 2007 as coach of the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons after 13 games to take his current job. “There are other teams that bring that up a lot.”
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogye West on February 01, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
Besides Arkansas’ graduation rate, Tracy Beckham was also worried about Petrino “having a little reputation,” which she hesitated to discuss.

“It’s what everybody will tell you, that he left his team in midseason,” she said in reference to Petrino’s resignation in 2007 as coach of the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons after 13 games to take his current job. “There are other teams that bring that up a lot.”

Holy fuck. I guess Petrino is going to have to be here for 58 years to finally let everyone know HE'S FUCKING STAYING RIGHT HERE!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 01, 2012, 09:05:44 PM
Besides Arkansas’ graduation rate, Tracy Beckham was also worried about Petrino “having a little reputation,” which she hesitated to discuss.

“It’s what everybody will tell you, that he left his team in midseason,” she said in reference to Petrino’s resignation in 2007 as coach of the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons after 13 games to take his current job. “There are other teams that bring that up a lot.”
Bitch is gonna look stupid when Pinkel is gone in 2 years and BMFP is just rolling right along. Shit, can't anyone think for themselves anymore? They bought that line/are using that as an excuse?  :bird:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: bandwidth on February 01, 2012, 09:07:47 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Dorial-Green-Beckham-inside-the-chase-for-nations-top-recruit-020112

The family was also shown a video about Spirit, Auburn’s bald eagle mascot, and the team equipment manager gave an hour-plus presentation about the athletic apparel and equipment players receive.

He told the Beckhams there were 253 different ways to tie a shoe.

“It was over the top,” Tracy Beckham said.


^^ How do you compete with that ^^

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 09:07:53 PM
Bitch is gonna look stupid when Pinkel is gone in 2 years and BMFP is just rolling right along.

Where is Pinkel going?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 09:08:15 PM
Where is Pinkel going?
The clink
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogggdadi on February 01, 2012, 09:08:42 PM
Anyone could state anything as a justifiable reason for not coming.  Mirrored buyout not mentioned? Convenient.  Doesn't matter.  Did we bring up pinkels DWI?

Maybe we should have. 

I'm with petrino.  Wish him well, & move on.  I can guarantee, if we play them, he's gonna get got. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 09:09:46 PM
The clink

Well done.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 01, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
Well done.
Another DWI and/or a couple seasons of getting his ass kicked in with his prized recruit will have the 'Zou fans looking in a different direction. Reality won't set in for awhile with these dumb fricks, they will think it's just the coach.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 01, 2012, 09:13:20 PM
Another DWI and/or a couple seasons of getting his ass kicked in with his prized recruit will have the 'Zou fans looking in a different direction. Reality won't set in for awhile with these dumb fricks.

Unpossible. He just won the National Independence Championship.

Anyone could state anything as a justifiable reason for not coming.  Mirrored buyout not mentioned? Convenient.  Doesn't matter.  Did we bring up pinkels DWI?

Maybe we should have. 

I'm with petrino.  Wish him well, & move on.  I can guarantee, if we play them, he's gonna get got.

This guy is coming for him.

(http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/guido12jk8.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on February 01, 2012, 09:15:28 PM
Another DWI and/or a couple seasons of getting his ass kicked in with his prized recruit will have the 'Zou fans looking in a different direction. Reality won't set in for awhile with these dumb fricks.

I am little worried that DGB likes the sauce too much. MISERY needs to be careful, or DGB will have his headshot on CDCT. *:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogggdadi on February 01, 2012, 09:16:35 PM
I want to get me one of those shirts.. :beer:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 01, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
I am little worried that DGB likes the sauce too much. MISERY needs to be careful, or DGB will have his headshot on CDCT. *:
Pinkel has him a drinking buddy
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 01, 2012, 09:18:44 PM
DGB people can Say what ever they want that makes it ok, in the end they sent their kid to fricking Mizzou. And the girl friend looks like an aspiring pro in the pic I saw and I don't mean wnba.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Porker on February 01, 2012, 09:21:34 PM
Pinkel has him a drinking buddy

So DGB's mom puts stock into Petrino being a doosh for leaving the Falcons before the season was over but she feels sorry for Pinkel because he got busted for a DUI ????  WTF?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 01, 2012, 09:24:01 PM
I'd heard the rumor about DGB's mom not liking Petrino on TD from a Mizzou poster. Everyone gave him shit for it, but he was right.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 01, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
So DGB's mom puts stock into Petrino being a doosh for leaving the Falcons before the season was over but she feels sorry for Pinkel because he got busted for a DUI ????  WTF?

No well thought out, reasonable person could compare the two. They are reaching for reasons.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 09:31:34 PM
Besides Arkansas’ graduation rate, Tracy Beckham was also worried about Petrino “having a little reputation,” which she hesitated to discuss.

“It’s what everybody will tell you, that he left his team in midseason,” she said in reference to Petrino’s resignation in 2007 as coach of the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons after 13 games to take his current job. “There are other teams that bring that up a lot.”

She probably has no idea how stupid and gullible this makes her look, that she would fall for recruiting bullshit that obvious.  There are coaches across the SEC right now just laughing at her and thanking whatever deity they pray to that he didn't go to someplace like Arkansas, Alabama, LSU, etc where he would've made a difference.  Those other schools might not have gotten him but at least they were able to influence this dumb shit and keep him away from the Hogs. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Clark on February 01, 2012, 09:34:59 PM
And John was like 'Tracy, shut up!'
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 01, 2012, 09:42:21 PM
After our 11 win season, I would like to see an article like this re-written.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/08/2008-recruiting-classes/index.html
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: papermill on February 01, 2012, 09:45:03 PM
She probably has no idea how stupid and gullible this makes her look, that she would fall for recruiting bullshit that obvious.

I am so tired of stupid, it permeates everything more and more each day.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TravelHog on February 01, 2012, 09:46:31 PM
So DGB's mom puts stock into Petrino being a doosh for leaving the Falcons before the season was over but she feels sorry for Pinkel because he got busted for a DUI ????  WTF?

Yeah, I hope someone reminds his "mom" of this in a few years when Pinkel is gone after Misery gets their shit pushed in these first few years in a real conference. We definitely need to check back and bring this back up for future reference.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Porker on February 01, 2012, 09:49:41 PM
She probably has no idea how stupid and gullible this makes her look, that she would fall for recruiting bullshit that obvious.  There are coaches across the SEC right now just laughing at her and thanking whatever deity they pray to that he didn't go to someplace like Arkansas, Alabama, LSU, etc where he would've made a difference.  Those other schools might not have gotten him but at least they were able to influence this dumb aMm and keep him away from the Hogs.


“I felt very bad for him,” Tracy Beckham said. “I don’t think he’s some crazy drunk. I do think if that could have been other places — Alabama, Arkansas — it would have never happened.”


Yeah, this chick knows the F'Ville Police Department well. They've arrested more than they're fair share of U of A athletes for DUI through the years, but they'd cut Petrino loose in the same situation.  Yeah, Right.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on February 01, 2012, 09:50:18 PM
I am so tired of stupid, it permeates everything more and more each day.
The song "Feed Jake" didn't convince you back then?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 01, 2012, 10:00:58 PM

“I felt very bad for him,” Tracy Beckham said. “I don’t think he’s some crazy drunk. I do think if that could have been other places — Alabama, Arkansas — it would have never happened.”


Yeah, this chick knows the F'Ville Police Department well. They've arrested more than they're fair share of U of A athletes for DUI through the years, but they'd cut Petrino loose in the same situation.  Yeah, Right.
Stupid whore....don't EVER compare BMFP or Saban to your Coach Pinkel. There is no comparison. She is right about 1 thing though...it wouldn't happen at Arkansas of Alabama because BMFP or Saban aren't stupid enough to put themselves in that position.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cooter on February 01, 2012, 10:23:31 PM
“I felt like it was the place for me,” said Dorial, 18, who has been compared to Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson. "Just to stay home and to have all these people come out here and watch me play."

In more ways than one.  Has Detroit ever won a super bowl?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 01, 2012, 10:28:35 PM
“I felt like it was the place for me,” said Dorial, 18, who has been compared to Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson. "Just to stay home and to have all these people come out here and watch me play."
In more ways than one.  Has Detroit ever won a super bowl?
Notice there's never been any talk by anyone associated with DGB or DGB himself about winning games, a divison title, a SEC title or a national title. Apparently it's all about getting his numbers and staying away from those evil coaches like Petrino and Saban.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: chittlins on February 01, 2012, 10:32:35 PM
I'm glad he offered, but not on a voice mail.

 realstunned

 :stache:

I call bullshit on that, sounds like one of their internet JRO's on the loose.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 01, 2012, 10:33:28 PM
Wow. There's a lot of stuff in there I've never heard about. I never heard we offered his brother a scholarship...and I follow recruiting daily. How is it possible that I didn't hear about that...ever?

O, my sweet, girthy, endowèd provider of penis!, a high school senior almost drank!?! Holy shit, woman. What do you think's going to happen when he gets to college?

I see a lot of stuff in that article that really just pisses me off. Really? Petrino's a job hopper? SERIOUSLY? You dumb fucks are STILL using that as an excuse?

And Petrino's staff has a lot of lateral movement? REALLY? Like who? Paul? John Beckham is a fucking retard.


I like how that count said that Pinkel's DWI wasn't really a big deal and that he wouldn't have gotten it if he had been in Arkansas or Alabama.

REALLY?

Who the fuck believes this shit? Seriously, just not very smart people from the sound of that article.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 10:35:28 PM

“I felt very bad for him,” Tracy Beckham said. “I don’t think he’s some crazy drunk. I do think if that could have been other places — Alabama, Arkansas — it would have never happened.”


I try not to say this much because it's kind of sexist but in this case it fits; she's just a dumb bitch.  She would do herself a favor by shutting the hell up.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: labhawg on February 01, 2012, 10:37:53 PM
Besides Arkansas’ graduation rate, Tracy Beckham was also worried about Petrino “having a little reputation,” which she hesitated to discuss.

“It’s what everybody will tell you, that he left his team in midseason,” she said in reference to Petrino’s resignation in 2007 as coach of the NFL’s Atlanta Falcons after 13 games to take his current job. “There are other teams that bring that up a lot.”
Need the face palm pic on that shit.        Fuck
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: asshat on February 01, 2012, 10:40:28 PM
I've spent a whole lot more time thinking about a Mizzouru receiver than I should have.  I won't waste any more time on him or his team again until the week before we beat the shit out of them.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 01, 2012, 10:41:03 PM
Notice there's never been any talk by anyone associated with DGB or DGB himself about winning games, a divison title, a SEC title or a national title. Apparently it's all about getting his numbers and staying away from those evil coaches like Petrino and Saban.

I think Charliehog is right, in the end he just wanted to be the big fish in a small pond.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 01, 2012, 10:43:05 PM
Fuck the Beckhams.   Opportunists and whores.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on February 01, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
Instead of whining, I would like to thank JaMichael Winston and Jonathan Williams. Even though JaMichael's coach tried to steer him to Clemson, he kept his word and also helped get Otha Peters here. Jonathan was probably our most active recruiter and he took the time to clue in our recruits when that creepy MU "fan" set up a fake twitter account and harrassed them. Y'all might not have been born in Arkansas but y'all bleed Razorback Red.

As far DGB goes, nice little act you put on but the joke is on you because MU ain't doing shit in this league.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 01, 2012, 10:44:26 PM
We're fine without him, and this whole thing has been a complete circus, but what annoys me is the "he decided to say close to home and chose the Tigers" claim.  He chose Mizzou because thats what made his family and girlfriend the happiest, and he'll be treated like a god there no matter what he does his freshman year.  It wasn't about winning, it wasn't about player development, and it wasn't about proximity to home.

If he wants to win National Championships, go to Bama
If he wants to put up sick numbers and potentially win a title, go to Arkansas
If he wants his girlfriend to let him put it in her butt, go to Mizzou
If he wants to avoid SEC defenses, go to OU or Texas

We probably should have looked at this scenerio earlier and saw it coming a mile away.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: JoeBobHog on February 01, 2012, 10:46:24 PM
I think Charliehog is right, in the end he just wanted to be the big fish in a small pond.

if he had come here, he wouldn't have lasted a full year.



 :notexas:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 01, 2012, 10:49:44 PM
Instead of whining, I would like to thank JaMichael Winston and Jonathan Williams. Even though JaMichael's coach tried to steer him to Clemson, he kept his word and also helped get Otha Peters here. Jonathan was probably our most active recruiter and he took the time to clue in our recruits when that creepy MU "fan" set up a fake twitter account and harrassed them. Y'all might not have been born in Arkansas but y'all bleed Razorback Red.

As far DGB goes, nice little act you put on but the joke is on you because MU ain't doing aMm in this league.
Nice point. Winston also probably helped with Philon today as well.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 01, 2012, 10:51:35 PM
What was the point of the Beckhams trashing everyone in that article? You know every school rolled out the red carpet for him. They should have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cooter on February 01, 2012, 10:58:09 PM
This tells you all you need to know:



Quietly, a couple of weeks before Dorial’s visit, Missouri did what Arkansas had and offered a scholarship to Dorial’s younger half-brother, Darnell. But, unlike Arkansas, Tracy Beckham said, the Tigers coaches told the Beckhams the offer stood regardless of Dorial’s college decision and that if Darnell was unable physically to play football, he could be a student assistant.

But Tracy Beckham insisted Dorial’s college decision was not made based on Missouri’s scholarship offer to his younger half-brother, even though she admitted there is now a better chance they attend college together.

The day before Dorial’s announcement, John and Tracy Beckham sat in a barbecue restaurant in Springfield and discussed their fondness for Texas’ Brown. John Beckham had sent him a text message earlier in the day that in part said that Dorial was staying “close to home.”

John Beckham said he did not inform Arkansas’ Petrino or Oklahoma’s Stoops.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 10:59:32 PM
Instead of whining, I would like to thank JaMichael Winston and Jonathan Williams. Even though JaMichael's coach tried to steer him to Clemson, he kept his word and also helped get Otha Peters here. Jonathan was probably our most active recruiter and he took the time to clue in our recruits when that creepy MU "fan" set up a fake twitter account and harrassed them. Y'all might not have been born in Arkansas but y'all bleed Razorback Red.

Yep. Great to be welcoming kids that are truly excited about the program and the direction it's headed.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Clark on February 01, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
I am not questioning the kid's talent and skill set at all. He's legit. But a WR has to have help. He has to have a quarterback and a system geared to make him successful. Hillcrest got worked over pretty good at RRS back in September. It was 30-0 in favor of a weak Rogers Heritage team at the half and DGB hadn't done a thing. With the game essentially over, he catches a few balls and scores twice.

Foreshadowing.

The 7A West is like the SEC. A weak sister shut him down until the game was out of hand. Hope he gets used to it.

His only chance may be that Yost gets a hold of Mox and installs the Fuckin' Oopty Oop offense.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 01, 2012, 11:08:26 PM
Did Culp end up signing with anyone today?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Count Porkula on February 01, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
After our 11 win season, I would like to see an article like this re-written.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/02/08/2008-recruiting-classes/index.html

He is.  Said today on the DP show that he'll start working on the updated rankings article tomorrow
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hawgwild8988 on February 01, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
This tells you all you need to know:



Quietly, a couple of weeks before Dorial’s visit, Missouri did what Arkansas had and offered a scholarship to Dorial’s younger half-brother, Darnell. But, unlike Arkansas, Tracy Beckham said, the Tigers coaches told the Beckhams the offer stood regardless of Dorial’s college decision and that if Darnell was unable physically to play football, he could be a student assistant.

But Tracy Beckham insisted Dorial’s college decision was not made based on Missouri’s scholarship offer to his younger half-brother, even though she admitted there is now a better chance they attend college together.

The day before Dorial’s announcement, John and Tracy Beckham sat in a barbecue restaurant in Springfield and discussed their fondness for Texas’ Brown. John Beckham had sent him a text message earlier in the day that in part said that Dorial was staying “close to home.”

John Beckham said he did not inform Arkansas’ Petrino or Oklahoma’s Stoops.

So pretty much if Nutt was still here, DGB would be a hog. Anyone that can't see through the okie-doke BS that Nutt and Mack do, doesn't deserve to play for Petrino.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: intercept on February 01, 2012, 11:52:27 PM
DGB would have been a good pick up... oh well. I'm way excited about the 24 men that decided to attend the best University in the world. I watched a lot of their press conferences and the over-all majority said it was a dream come true to play for the Razorbacks and they were all ready to hit the ground running.

We needed defense and Petrino went out and got defense, coaches and players. I couldn't be more excited about the upcoming year.
Title: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogsrunwild on February 01, 2012, 11:54:28 PM
The more I read the more his family sounds like psycho-douches,  he sounds like a pussy and his gf sounds like a whore.  Oh well
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 02, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
DGB would have been a good pick up... oh well. I'm way excited about the 24 men that decided to attend the best University in the world. I watched a lot of their press conferences and the over-all majority said it was a dream come true to play for the Razorbacks and they were all ready to hit the ground running.

We needed defense and Petrino went out and got defense, coaches and players. I couldn't be more excited about the upcoming year.

Yeah, I feel very good about the players we got, too - especially on D. Here's hoping we can land either Diamond or Neal to put the finishing touches on this class.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 02, 2012, 12:23:25 AM
DGB would have been a good pick up... oh well. I'm way excited about the 24 men that decided to attend the best University in the world. I watched a lot of their press conferences and the over-all majority said it was a dream come true to play for the Razorbacks and they were all ready to hit the ground running.

We needed defense and Petrino went out and got defense, coaches and players. I couldn't be more excited about the upcoming year.

^This 100%  I was pissy today with the DgBacle, but we have a good solid class.  Probably one of our best D classes to date.  I don't doubt for one second that Petrino will coach these guys up.  In looking at the rankings, our 3*'s are on the cusp of being 4*'s, and the same with our 2*'s moving up.  In 2 years we can look at our BCS bowl trophy and let them rerank 2012.  We are headed in the right direction and it's good to be a Hog.  BMFP has a plan, and he's going to get there. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 02, 2012, 02:57:14 AM


Good lord, if all it took was hanging a bunch of stupid-ass signs on interstate overpasses, I guess we should've made more damn signs.

I hope Ascolese, or somebody with a Razorback on their helmet, blows this fucker up if we're blessed by the SEC scheduling gods to play Missouri anytime in the next few years.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 02, 2012, 03:46:42 AM

Good lord, if all it took was hanging a bunch of stupid-ass signs on interstate overpasses, I guess we should've made more damn signs.

I hope Ascolese, or somebody with a Razorback on their helmet, blows this fucker up if we're blessed by the SEC scheduling gods to play Missouri anytime in the next few years.

Well, we each have an open date on October 20th.  :shocker:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 02, 2012, 06:02:44 AM
I agree that article was too well thought out to come out now.  Momma runs her mouth too much and DGB maaaay just be too much of a tittie baby it seems.  I guess Cobi gettin him all crunk and shit cost us huh.  I guess she missed where the mizzou players couldn't get him into a bar.  If she really thinks older brother was taking all those drinks, she is the dumbest mother on earth.

I see now why they picked Mizzou.  And why he is being lead around by pussy.  They think Pinkel and Yost will protect him.  They won't.  What are they going to do when he get's caught with weed or pulling a Sammy Olajubutu in a McDonalds drive through? 

I don't hate the kid.  I think he and his "Family that sees him as an investment" are naive about the way of the world.  He is going to go buck wild in college.  Get in a little trouble, I doubt he becomes a bad kid, but they will freak out.  Maybe John will go live with him
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 02, 2012, 06:28:20 AM
There is no way I would ever let my child play for a guy who just got a DWI in the middle of the season.  But there is also no way I would ever adopt 19 foster kids.  Good luck to Dorial.

I'm betting Diamond is our next signee, but I'd love to get Davonte Neal, too.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Too Big Pig on February 02, 2012, 07:35:49 AM
I think I'm going to start slowly driving by homeless shelters and orphanages. Maybe check some 40 times.

With my 401k tanking, maybe this can be my new investment plan.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 02, 2012, 08:09:18 AM

Good lord, if all it took was hanging a bunch of stupid-ass signs on interstate overpasses, I guess we should've made more damn signs.

I hope Ascolese, or somebody with a Razorback on their helmet, blows this fricker up if we're blessed by the SEC scheduling gods to play Missouri anytime in the next few years.

I love how they keep mentioning the love DGB got at the basketball game.  They mention it in this article.  They mentioned it on ESPNU.  Ummm...PRETTTTTTY sure we did that shit too...with more fans.  Whatever.

I hope he has a great career, never winning more than 7 games.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 02, 2012, 08:18:42 AM
I call bullshit on that, sounds like one of their internet JRO's on the loose.
Yeah it was JRO. The Beckham's passed on a years worth of chili cheese fries and free oxy for life.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 02, 2012, 08:25:30 AM
Was there something going on yesterday?  ???
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on February 02, 2012, 08:44:49 AM
Notice there's never been any talk by anyone associated with DGB or DGB himself about winning games, a divison title, a SEC title or a national title. Apparently it's all about getting his numbers and staying away from those evil coaches like Petrino and Saban.
Hell....they came right out and admitted it...

"John Beckham also knew his son’s chances of playing for a national championship weren’t as high with the Tigers."

Good for him....he'll get what he wants. The article was all bullshit though. She got offended that DGB was offered drinks, but then feels bad for Pinkel with his 2 DUIs. They are worried about coaches moving sideways a lot, but in the press conference they mentioned they liked McGee and he moved UP to a head coaching job.

I'm surprised..before I read this article I thought they handled the recruiting situation ok but that made the parents look pretty bad to anyone paying attention.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 02, 2012, 08:47:48 AM
I think I'm going to start slowly driving by homeless shelters and orphanages. Maybe check some 40 times.

With my 401k tanking, maybe this can be my new investment plan.

But do you own a Long John Silvers?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 02, 2012, 09:01:48 AM
 ::) I guess Bobby needs a Tropper Taylor...

I love you coach Jizzzz...I mean Chizz
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wmr on February 02, 2012, 10:02:18 AM
Mizzou fans were trolling our recruits on Twitter pretty hard, with some of them pretending to be "crazy Arkansas fans".  I wouldn't be surprised if the Beckhams weren't stalked by a few of those people, pretending to be Arkansas boosters.

They all sound pretty fucking stupid, so no doubt they probably fell for it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: KCHOGS on February 02, 2012, 10:58:36 AM
Most Mizzou fans were butt hurt by losing Hines to us.  They thought he was going to be their next William Moore (Falcons now).  I hope he and Buchanan are our lock down corners of the future and I really like what we added on the defensive side of the ball.  The offensive side is solid as well.  Bottom line is I trust BMFP evaluations of these kids more than I do some no name that goes to HS games and tries to evaluate based on competition.  This class fills needs and really solidifies the foundation.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on February 02, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
 After reading that article, I think these people are looking for a book and movie deal mimicking "The Blind Side" and to get on Oprah.

 I wish nothing but the best for a young man or woman, but that attitude from people like that just make me disappointed in the whole process.

 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 02, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
I agree that article was too well thought out to come out now.  Momma runs her mouth too much and DGB maaaay just be too much of a tittie baby it seems.  I guess Cobi gettin him all crunk and aMm cost us huh.  I guess she missed where the mizzou players couldn't get him into a bar.  If she really thinks older brother was taking all those drinks, she is the dumbest mother on earth.

I see now why they picked Mizzou.  And why he is being lead around by puthy.  They think Pinkel and Yost will protect him.  They won't.  What are they going to do when he get's caught with weed or pulling a Sammy Olajubutu in a McDonalds drive through? 

I don't hate the kid.  I think he and his "Family that sees him as an investment" are naive about the way of the world.  He is going to go buck wild in college.  Get in a little trouble, I doubt he becomes a bad kid, but they will freak out.  Maybe John will go live with him

After an evening to think about it this is what I think went down:  Kid wanted to come to Arkansas because he's smart and saw how he would flourish here.  Then he took his Missouri visit and started to waver just enough that foster mommy & daddy put the full court press on him and he decided on Mizzou.  After a couple of days though he starts remembering why he picked Arkansas in the first place and figures that he still really wants to come here, so much so that he calls the coaches Tuesday night telling them this with the intention of letting his parents know the next morning.  Next morning he tells the parents his decision, drama queen mom throws up, and after another hour or pressure he stays with Mizzou. 

And right now he's kicking himself.  Too bad for the kid but at least he's living his parents dream if not his own.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FayettenamHog on February 02, 2012, 11:20:04 AM
This is how much attention all the "experts" pay attention to anything. We signed a slew of defensive talent, and ESPN doesn't even mention it in the recap after giving us a C+...


Arkansas Razorbacks

Top prospect: Receiver D'Arthur Cowan (Olive Branch, Miss./Olive Branch) is fast, sleek, flexible and tall. He might not time like an elite guy but is as fast as he needs to be when the pads come on.

Breakdown: The assembling of a strong group of wide receivers and running backs has helped the Razorbacks fill needs in 2012. Led by a pair of four-star prospects in Cowan and Keon Hatcher (Owasso, Okla./Owasso), Arkansas has landed some talent at this position for its high-powered passing attack. Hatcher is a competitive, tough receiver with solid open-field running skills to boot. The class also features some talent in the trenches led by four-star Jeremy Ward (Pottsville, Ark./Pottsville), the No. 15-ranked guard, and high three-star defensive end Brandon Lewis (Memphis/Ridgeway). Ward has the athleticism necessary to provide help out of the center/guard box in pass protection, while Lewis has some work that needs to be done but shows some flashes and presents some intriguing upside.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 02, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
After an evening to think about it this is what I think went down:  Kid wanted to come to Arkansas because he's smart and saw how he would flourish here.  Then he took his Missouri visit and started to waver just enough that foster mommy & daddy put the full court press on him and he decided on Mizzou.  After a couple of days though he starts remembering why he picked Arkansas in the first place and figures that he still really wants to come here, so much so that he calls the coaches Tuesday night telling them this with the intention of letting his parents know the next morning.  Next morning he tells the parents his decision, drama queen mom throws up, and after another hour or pressure he stays with Mizzou. 

And right now he's kicking himself.  Too bad for the kid but at least he's living his parents dream if not his own.

Seems plausible to me.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 02, 2012, 11:38:11 AM
After an evening to think about it this is what I think went down:  Kid wanted to come to Arkansas because he's smart and saw how he would flourish here.  Then he took his Missouri visit and started to waver just enough that foster mommy & daddy put the full court press on him and he decided on Mizzou.  After a couple of days though he starts remembering why he picked Arkansas in the first place and figures that he still really wants to come here, so much so that he calls the coaches Tuesday night telling them this with the intention of letting his parents know the next morning.  Next morning he tells the parents his decision, drama queen mom throws up, and after another hour or pressure he stays with Mizzou. 

And right now he's kicking himself.  Too bad for the kid but at least he's living his parents dream if not his own.
I buy it
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 02, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
You guys have it all wrong.  Momma threw up because Petrino gave her drinks.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 02, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
After an evening to think about it this is what I think went down:  Kid wanted to come to Arkansas because he's smart and saw how he would flourish here.  Then he took his Missouri visit and started to waver just enough that foster mommy & daddy put the full court press on him and he decided on Mizzou.  After a couple of days though he starts remembering why he picked Arkansas in the first place and figures that he still really wants to come here, so much so that he calls the coaches Tuesday night telling them this with the intention of letting his parents know the next morning.  Next morning he tells the parents his decision, drama queen mom throws up, and after another hour or pressure he stays with Mizzou. 

And right now he's kicking himself.  Too bad for the kid but at least he's living his parents dream if not his own.


Let's run with this as the official version of events.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 02, 2012, 12:00:37 PM
Petrino must drive drunk in Fayetteville all the damn time.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cuz24 on February 02, 2012, 12:03:30 PM
Quote of the day.
"I’ve signed with Arkansas, and I’m looking forward to hitting those who didn’t." - Arkansas linebacker signee Vin Ascolese.
I'm looking forward to watching this guy play.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: NotoriousPIG on February 02, 2012, 12:13:08 PM
Quote of the day.
"I’ve signed with Arkansas, and I’m looking forward to hitting those who didn’t." - Arkansas linebacker signee Vin Ascolese.
I'm looking forward to watching this guy play.

Is there any doubt that this guy's name is Jersey Shore the day he steps foot on campus?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Spongebob on February 02, 2012, 12:26:41 PM
Is there any doubt that this guy's name is Jersey Shore the day he steps foot on campus?

Vinnie "The Hit Man" Ascolese
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TNPIG on February 02, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
I see Jersey Shore redshirting then busting heads at fullback the next four years.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 02, 2012, 12:36:06 PM
This is how much attention all the "experts" pay attention to anything. We signed a slew of defensive talent, and ESPN doesn't even mention it in the recap after giving us a C+...


Arkansas Razorbacks

Top prospect: Receiver D'Arthur Cowan (Olive Branch, Miss./Olive Branch) is fast, sleek, flexible and tall. He might not time like an elite guy but is as fast as he needs to be when the pads come on.

Breakdown: The assembling of a strong group of wide receivers and running backs has helped the Razorbacks fill needs in 2012. Led by a pair of four-star prospects in Cowan and Keon Hatcher (Owasso, Okla./Owasso), Arkansas has landed some talent at this position for its high-powered passing attack. Hatcher is a competitive, tough receiver with solid open-field running skills to boot. The class also features some talent in the trenches led by four-star Jeremy Ward (Pottsville, Ark./Pottsville), the No. 15-ranked guard, and high three-star defensive end Brandon Lewis (Memphis/Ridgeway). Ward has the athleticism necessary to provide help out of the center/guard box in pass protection, while Lewis has some work that needs to be done but shows some flashes and presents some intriguing upside.

The fuck?  One mention of one defensive recruit?  They added depth and talent all around the defense (even at DT with the last-minute fuck you to Satan).  These guys don't know their ass from my elbow.

Quote of the day.
"I’ve signed with Arkansas, and I’m looking forward to hitting those who didn’t." - Arkansas linebacker signee Vin Ascolese.
I'm looking forward to watching this guy play.

God damn I love this kid's attitude.  I hope he backs it up on the field and fucks some bitches up.  Let's get him on campus and teach him to hate corndogs and gumps good and proper like. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 02, 2012, 12:37:16 PM
I see Jersey Shore redshirting then busting heads at fullback the next four years.

I could see it, but I'd rather see him bring that attitude to the defense.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Razorologist on February 02, 2012, 12:50:12 PM
 :maundoed:

And John was like 'Tracy, shut up!'
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 02, 2012, 01:06:46 PM


Interesting quote from Paul Petrino in the below-linked article:

If you’re a skill player and you don’t want to play in this offense, your most important thing isn’t winning and being great.

http://blogs.nwaonline.com/slophouse/2012/02/01/fifth-class-resembles-first-for-petrino/ (http://blogs.nwaonline.com/slophouse/2012/02/01/fifth-class-resembles-first-for-petrino/)

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 02, 2012, 01:11:01 PM

Interesting quote from Paul Petrino in the below-linked article:

If you’re a skill player and you don’t want to play in this offense, your most important thing isn’t winning and being great.

http://blogs.nwaonline.com/slophouse/2012/02/01/fifth-class-resembles-first-for-petrino/ (http://blogs.nwaonline.com/slophouse/2012/02/01/fifth-class-resembles-first-for-petrino/)
More subtle than les miles...
 :stunned:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/38366/video-les-miles-rips-gunner-kiel
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Razorologist on February 02, 2012, 01:16:56 PM
ocelot, is that Yost in your avi?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Biff Malibu on February 02, 2012, 01:55:22 PM
More subtle than les miles...
 :stunned:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/38366/video-les-miles-rips-gunner-kiel

Stay classy, Leslie!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TNPIG on February 02, 2012, 02:34:34 PM
More subtle than les miles...
 :stunned:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/38366/video-les-miles-rips-gunner-kiel
Wow, that should give Gunner and his family peace of mind in the Notre Dame decision.  Takes a special man to get up in front of people and bash an 18 year old on his college decision. I'm sure BMFP would like to share some words on the DGB situation, but damn...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 02, 2012, 02:43:58 PM
Wow, that should give Gunner and his family peace of mind in the Notre Dame decision.  Takes a special man to get up in front of people and bash an 18 year old on his college decision. I'm sure BMFP would like to share some words on the DGB situation, but damn...

BP said he wished him luck and he like the 4 WR's they signed.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: 1st_down_streak on February 02, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
BP said he wished him luck and he like the 4 WR's they signed.

Typical for that potty mouth, ship-jumping devil.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 02, 2012, 03:35:15 PM
Is there any doubt that this guy's name is Jersey Shore the day he steps foot on campus?

(http://www.imbringingbloggingback.com/wp-content//jersey-shore-gif1.gif)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 02, 2012, 03:49:14 PM
More subtle than les miles...
 :stunned:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/38366/video-les-miles-rips-gunner-kiel

Just like to remind everyone that Miles let a kid named Elliot Porter sign in 2010.  When fall rolled around, after the kid had been on campus for 2 weeks living in student housing and going through voluntary workouts, Miles told him that he didn't have a scholarship.

Les Miles got what he had coming to him.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cuz24 on February 02, 2012, 04:15:53 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/darius-philon-second-dramatic-signing-day-indecision-case-155935277.html
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 02, 2012, 04:22:12 PM

So, Cassanova McKinzy picked Auburn over Clemson because, in part, there wasn't a Chick-Fil-A close to Clemon's campus.

Turns out, there WAS one on Clemon's campus. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/cassanova-mckinzy-spurned-clemson-because-didn-t-chick-015506961.html)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: clintcommander on February 02, 2012, 04:24:43 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/darius-philon-second-dramatic-signing-day-indecision-case-155935277.html

beat me to it
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: FueltoFire on February 02, 2012, 04:42:27 PM
So, Cassanova McKinzy picked Auburn over Clemson because, in part, there wasn't a Chick-Fil-A close to Clemon's campus.

Turns out, there WAS one on Clemon's campus. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/cassanova-mckinzy-spurned-clemson-because-didn-t-chick-015506961.html)

Where else was he going to take the ladies on a date?

(http://4gspot.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/1273212602563.gif)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 02, 2012, 04:52:20 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/darius-philon-second-dramatic-signing-day-indecision-case-155935277.html

That video is just as painful to watch today.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on February 02, 2012, 05:28:08 PM
Stay classy, Leslie!

Well, at least he didn't say a naughty word on TV like that little beer-drinking, kitten-killing dictator on our sideline.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Mike Slive on February 02, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
Well, at least he didn't say a naughty word on TV like that little beer-drinking, kitten-killing dictator on our sideline.

Exactly, Rich Rod was the hire of the year to the ESPN. Anyone reranked that one yet?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 02, 2012, 06:31:13 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/darius-philon-second-dramatic-signing-day-indecision-case-155935277.html

Poor kid.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 02, 2012, 07:16:25 PM
That video is just as painful to watch today.

This is the first time I've watched the video.  Man, I can't imagine what it was doing to that kid to have to sit there in front of all those people and commit to that soulless bastard, knowing that he didn't have a scholarship.  You can tell it was eating him up.  Poor kid. I hope he feels nothing but love on the hill, and I hope he gets a chance to show Saban what they missed out on.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cooter on February 02, 2012, 08:09:48 PM
I'm just wondering, isn't this the same family who said there would be no drama because they realize that people's jobs were at stake? Then Mrs. DGB goes and does a hack job on everyone that was recruiting him?  I'm about over the obvious hypocrisy bullshit and I'm more butthurt about the parents than DGB, but why the hell isn't this family being blasted more for this nationally?

When does Mr. DGB start his job with Missouri?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 02, 2012, 08:41:45 PM
I'm just wondering, isn't this the same family who said there would be no drama because they realize that people's jobs were at stake? Then Mrs. DGB goes and does a hack job on everyone that was recruiting him?  I'm about over the obvious hypocrisy bullshit and I'm more butthurt about the parents than DGB, but why the hell isn't this family being blasted more for this nationally?

When does Mr. DGB start his job with Missouri?

Not until Darnell gets his full scholarship (which, supposedly, was offered).
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 02, 2012, 09:21:14 PM
Not until Darnell gets his full scholarship (which, supposedly, was offered).

It was offered with the promise that it would be there even if DGB didn't sign with Mizz. They were definetely putting "the pussy" on a pedastool. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 02, 2012, 09:25:50 PM
It was offered with the promise that it would be there even if DGB didn't sign with Mizz. They were definetely putting "the pussy" on a pedastool.

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41816_2226250066_4560_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Five-O on February 02, 2012, 09:31:16 PM
What a bunch of pussies. The Big 10 is a fucking joke, they know more about cheating than anybody.













And grooming boys.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on February 02, 2012, 10:00:01 PM
For Christmas, I wish for Momma Green Beckman, an entire bag of dicks. 

Eat/suck each one, you manipulative hoooooor.

I know it's not Christmas, but the mYans and spaceship jesus are going to ruin next one anyway, so I thought I'd get my wishes in early
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 02, 2012, 10:33:30 PM
Bobby: "Here are a couple of our biggest recruits this season." He is talking about Tyler and Knile. He brings up Tyler being 1st team All SEC QB last season, and Knile being 1st team RB two years ago.

Then, Bobby's face is emcompassed with a shit eating grin and he says, "Those are a couple three star recruits that are now five stars."

Arena erupts with applause. 

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 02, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
This is the first time I've watched the video.  Man, I can't imagine what it was doing to that kid to have to sit there in front of all those people and commit to that soulless bastard, knowing that he didn't have a scholarship.  You can tell it was eating him up.  Poor kid. I hope he feels nothing but love on the hill, and I hope he gets a chance to show Saban what they missed out on.

Yep. Glad he's coming with a teammate also - could really help the transition in a case like this.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 02, 2012, 10:35:39 PM
Bobby: "Here are a couple of our biggest recruits this season." He is talking about Tyler and Knile. He brings up Tyler being 1st team All SEC QB last season, and Knile being 1st team RB two years ago.

Then Bobby's face is emcompassed with a shit eating grin and says, "Those are a couple three star recruits that are now five stars."

Arena erupts with applause.
Both were 4 stars I believe...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 02, 2012, 10:37:42 PM
Both were 4 stars I believe...

Take that up with Bobby.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 02, 2012, 10:41:03 PM
Take that up with Bobby.
Oh I will ...you bet cha....  Damn First Nutt claiming DMac and Felix were 3 and 2 stars on Finebaum today and now this... WHERE IS BIDDY AND GRIT!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: aboynamedsooiee on February 02, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
For Christmas, I wish for Momma Green Beckman, an entire bag of dicks. 

Eat/suck each one, you manipulative hoooooor.

I know it's not Christmas, but the mYans and spaceship jesus are going to ruin next one anyway, so I thought I'd get my wishes in early
It's only momma Beckham. DGB's real mom is in Atlanta.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 02, 2012, 10:46:22 PM
It's just little animated stars, man.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: bigghurtt on February 02, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.

This is as far as I made it in this thread.  Didn't figure I needed to go any further, that just about sums up what I think of our fanbase over the last day or two.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 02, 2012, 11:17:27 PM
This is as far as I made it in this thread.  Didn't figure I needed to go any further, that just about sums up what I think of our fanbase over the last day or two.
Really? All the experts thought Tom Brady wasn't much of a QB when he was being drafted in the NFL. Even I can re-rank that draft now and put him at the top of the class. Yes, idiots can have players ranked wrong out of high school and the same guys (along with everyone else) can get it right 4 years later. It's not that hard to do.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on February 02, 2012, 11:42:18 PM


Guys, don't worry about Diamond tomorrow.  I just left a voice mail on his cousin's phone to let him know I'm considering making a donation to his school.  It's a done deal.



Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 02, 2012, 11:56:29 PM

Guys, don't worry about Diamond tomorrow.  I just left a voice mail on his cousin's phone to let him know I'm considering making a donation to his school.  It's a done deal.

Might want to drop him a few tweets just to sweeten the pot. Heck, how's about getting all your friends to tweet him too! From what I understand, recruits love that.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: littlerayofsunshine on February 03, 2012, 12:01:40 AM
I think the Top 10 recruiting class everyone wants is coming next year.  But contrary to what most would say, I believe it will be because of the guys we get on the defensive side of the ball.  I think Haynes and Johnson did really well considering how late in the game they got involved.  Just wait until they have a whole year to really sell the U of A.

I love BMFP, I really fucking do.  But everyone has weaknesses, and if recruiting elite guys is his, then so be it.  I'll take it.  Because what he brings to the table in every other aspect is remarkable.  And luckily for us, BMFP doesn't really HAVE to be an elite recruiter.  He can put the weight of that on his staff, and he actually has a staff that can handle the burden (although losing Garrick as OC may have hurt us somewhat - I wonder what effect, if any, him leaving for UAB had on DGB deciding to go to Mizzou). 

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: uagrad89 on February 03, 2012, 12:14:37 AM
It is just amazing how different this is from the way it was 5-6 years ago.  Back then we HAD to have big-time rated recruiting classes because we knew Nutt and his merry band of nitwits would coach them down so far over their time here that the only way they would move on to the NFL was on natural talent alone. You knew players weren't going to get any better in their time here, as opposed to this coaching staff, who take good to above-average players and turn them into great players by the time they graduate. If you're dumb enough to buy entirely into those recruiting class rankings as the sole indicator of how good the team is going to be, you're beyond help. Would it be nice to have a #1 rated recruiting class? Of course. But if we're not (which we likely never will be), I'm not going to be worried because I know what kind of coaching staff we have and trust beyond the shadow of a doubt that they know what they're doing.

Judging from what I've heard, Petrino sounded almost positively giddy about this class, and it's certainly different looking at a list of recruits and seeing they were offered by teams like LSU, Bama, Clemson, Illinois, OU, OSU, and Texas, etc. as opposed to stealing players away from the likes of Murray State, Rice, and North Texas like we used to have to do on a regular basis.

If you're griping about this class now and about how Petrino "can't close the deal," just remember in 4 years when this recruiting class gets reranked, then kindly grab a book of matches and find the nearest screen door. You know what to do from there.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: reverendhog on February 03, 2012, 01:17:49 AM
There seems to be a lot of needless freaking out during this recruiting season. I just want to throw out a name to remind our fans what a demigod our coach is.

Stefan Lefors.

The 2004 Louisville Cardinals quarterback. 11-1. I live in the horrible bluegrass state and hate everything Kentucky. So that season, I found myself rooting for the Cardinals. I fell in love with BMFP that season. Lefors was not a top notch quarterback. Lord. But Petrino made him into a man. They lost to Rutgers that year in a heartbreaker. But Lefors was the talk of the country. Everyone knew it was because of Petrino that he became a player.

There is no reason to panic because we lost a certain recruit. It's pathetic. Petrino has the men he wants. He will forge them into the men he wants them to be. If he can make Lefors into a nationally known name, then he can take a three star recruit and make them into an SEC All-star. If you don't believe it, go find another team to root for, or go follow soccer.

Pathetic.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 03, 2012, 06:39:11 AM
It's only momma Beckham. DGB's real mom is in Atlanta.
Hmmm

It all comes full circle
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Cerdo on February 03, 2012, 07:22:45 AM
Really? All the experts thought Tom Brady wasn't much of a QB when he was being drafted in the NFL. Even I can re-rank that draft now and put him at the top of the class. Yes, idiots can have players ranked wrong out of high school and the same guys (along with everyone else) can get it right 4 years later. It's not that hard to do.
Hurtt and you are both making great points but your both talking past each other.  I just wanted to point that out so no one turns this in to an argument that isn't there. 

Hurtt's right - we hate on recruiting services if they don't like our class but then two years ago (or whenever) we applaud them for liking our class.  My contention is that you can look at guys like Biddy or Grit or Mike Farrell and then you can look at Petrino's staff.  Look at their job titles and their paychecks and the time spent actually analyzing film, interviewing the high school coaches, etc and then make your own decision as to which opinion you think has greater value.  That is why I'll never question an offer Petrino makes after having the kid here at camp - at what point does a coach have a better chance to evaluate a recruit then at their own camp?  If Petrino offers a kid at camp, I could care less if the kid has 2 stars or not. I feel good about it. 

Player evaluations are hit and miss though, no matter what level.  I would guess the success rate is about the same for 5 star kids as it is for Kiper's first round draft predictions... or even actual PICKS being graded BY real NFL scouts.  Development is what has made the Patriots who they are, just like development is making Arkansas what it currently is. 

BY the way, the Democrat Gazette put together a WONDERFUL recap yesterday with capsules about each kid, their offers, etc.  The common thread that really stood out is that we are recruiting the same type of kids in the same geographic zones as Oklahoma... they were the other common offer with almost all of our kids. 

They know it too, judging by Stoops and his constant attempts to poison the well for us with kids.  We need to keep an eye on the land thieves very closely. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on February 03, 2012, 08:12:51 AM
I just read what miles said about gunner Kiel.  Soooooo les miles thinks he is an authority on quarterback play and leadership? 

Jordan Jefferson.  Top notch qb and leader of young men. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 03, 2012, 08:46:25 AM
That's the thing about Petrino teams.  Even if they dont' have "top notch" talent, they'll almost always be competitive as long as they aren't relying on 18 freshmen. 

It's all about QB play.  If you have a good QB, you can win a lot of games.  Petrino realizes that.  It's like having a stud point guard.

Fortunately for us, we've got the good QB play, good RB play, etc, etc, etc.  Just need Haynes and company to rev up the defense a little more and we're THERE.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 03, 2012, 10:28:43 AM


It's all about QB play.  If you have a good QB, you can win a lot of games.  Petrino realizes that.  It's like having a stud point guard.



This. If you have great QB play or a great defense you will always be in a position to win games. The top 3 QBs on our depth chart could start for almost every team in the nation.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Biff Malibu on February 03, 2012, 10:28:49 AM
That's the thing about Petrino teams.  Even if they dont' have "top notch" talent, they'll almost always be competitive as long as they aren't relying on 18 freshmen. 

It's all about QB play.  If you have a good QB, you can win a lot of games.  Petrino realizes that.  It's like having a stud point guard.

Fortunately for us, we've got the good QB play, good RB play, etc, etc, etc.  Just need Haynes and company to rev up the defense a little more and we're THERE.

You're avatar is disturbing...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 03, 2012, 10:36:30 AM
Look's like Philon's hs coach has been told to shut up. Way to go, coach.:
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/darius_philon_was_more_committ.html

The day after signing day, Kerry Stevenson didn't want to talk about Darius Philon.

The Vigor High School football coach didn't want to talk about his star defensive lineman, who originally committed to Auburn, switched his commitment to Alabama in September and stayed committed to Alabama by not visiting other schools.

And then signed Wednesday with Arkansas.

Why the switch?

The day after signing day, the day after Stevenson told Press-Register columnist Mike Herndon that Philon felt like "he had the world snatched from up under him" and alluded to a numbers crunch at Alabama, the Vigor coach made it clear he wasn't about to clarify anything.

"What I said, I probably said prematurely," Stevenson said.

OK. Now what's his perspective on what happened?

"I don't have a perspective," he said.

On signing day, two of Philon's teammates said Alabama had asked him to delay his enrollment until January, a practice known as grayshirting. One teammate said Alabama made that request last week.

Could Stevenson explain when Alabama asked Philon to gray shirt?

"I can't tell you that," the coach said.

Why not?

"That's his personal business. It's not my business. It's not my personal business."

But Philon is one of his players.

"It's not my child."

Wow.

Stevenson did say that every team in the SEC except Auburn and LSU called recently to ask about Philon. Stevenson also said that signing with Arkansas is what Philon wanted to do, but the Press-Register video of Philon at the Vigor High signing ceremony says something else. The video shows Philon sitting down, burying his head in his hands, then standing up and putting on an Alabama hat. He looks and sounds like a young man in anguish, torn between what he wants to do and what he's able to do.Philon didn't visit Arkansas before signing with the Hogs.

"He's happy with his decision (to go to Arkansas with Vigor teammate JaMichael Winston)," Stevenson said. "And I'm happy."

Would Philon himself, who underwent knee surgery after the season, talk about what led him from Alabama commitment to Arkansas signee?

"I asked him if he wanted to talk to the media," Stevenson said. "He said no."

The Vigor coach made it clear that he was not about to discuss any discussions that took place between Philon and Alabama coach Nick Saban.

"What went on between him and Coach Saban, I was never in the room," Stevenson said. "If you want to find out what happened between him and Coach Saban, call Coach Saban."

I tried Thursday, but the Alabama football staff typically takes the day after signing day off. Saban did address the subject at his signing day press conference without naming the names of Philon or North Atlanta High School running back Justin Taylor. Taylor, who had been committed to Alabama since January of 2011, suffered a knee injury that cut short his senior season in high school. He and his coach/guardian said that Alabama asked him last month to delay his enrollment until January of 2013. Taylor instead signed Wednesday with Kentucky.

This is the heart of Saban's answer Wednesday to a question about the SEC's new soft cap of 25 signees per class. Alabama was able to sign 26 because it counted one back to last year's class.

"I think basically what we did was, because of the cynical attitude people have towards whether coaches are really doing what's in the best interest of the young people that we coach, which I sort of resent, to be honest with you, because that's one of the things that we pride ourselves in, we actually took some opportunities away from guys that really wanted to come to Alabama that we couldn't sign, and they couldn't come here because we couldn't offer that (sign and grayshirt) option to them."

Saban can blame the system, but he's the one who decides whether to honor a commitment or take away an opportunity.

Alabama took away Taylor's opportunity after a more highly regarded running back, Daphne's T.J. Yeldon, switched his commitment from Auburn to Alabama. Alabama took away Philon's opportunity as it closed in on landing two more highly touted defensive linemen, Korren Kirvan of Virginia and Dalvin Tomlinson of Georgia.

Call me cynical, but there's no question that Philon and Taylor were more committed to Alabama than Alabama was to them when better players lined up to take their place. And yet, despite stories like Philon's and Taylor's, an awful lot of prospects can't wait to play for Alabama.

What does it all mean? When Saban's process is good, it's very good. When it goes bad, Alabama goes on, and some young men go away.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 03, 2012, 10:39:41 AM
 Barton Simmons tweeted that it sounds like Auburn is looking good for Diamond
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tampa TechnoHOG on February 03, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/darius-philon-second-dramatic-signing-day-indecision-case-155935277.html


I finally got to see the video.  Wow, he really looked troubled.  I hope the pain he experienced germinates in his soul and prepares him to rip some Bama heads off come game time when he's playing for us against them.  Glad to have him.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tampa TechnoHOG on February 03, 2012, 11:23:30 AM
Barton Simmons tweeted that it sounds like Auburn is looking good for Diamond

Does anyone know our backup plan for that spot if we don't get Diamond or Neal?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 03, 2012, 11:24:00 AM
Does anyone know our backup plan if we don't get Diamond or Neal?
Wait and sign a mid term guy next year
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 03, 2012, 11:24:38 AM
You're avatar is disturbing...

It's awesome and you know it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 03, 2012, 11:25:29 AM
Barton Simmons tweeted that it sounds like Auburn is looking good for Diamond
Diamond wants to learn all 253 ways to tie a shoe?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 03, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
Jordan Diamond: Power Ranking 4-Star OT's Best Options   
By Eric Bowman (Featured Columnist) on February 3, 2012 69 reads 0 
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Jordan Diamond is expected to make his college decision Friday night, and of his choices, some are definitely better than others.

According to ESPN, Diamond will choose from Arkansas, Auburn, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Diamond has made official visits to all of those schools and also received offers from virtually all over the country.

Listed at 6'6", 289 pounds, Diamond has been highly coveted by several teams, and whichever program is able to get him will be very pleased to add him their list of 2012 recruits.

Where Will Jordan Diamond Land?

Arkansas
33.3%
Auburn
22.2%
Michigan
22.2%
Wisconsin
22.2%
Total votes: 9
With that said, here are the best landing spots for Diamond.
 

Michigan

Brady Hoke is doing big things for the Wolverines, and Diamond should want to be apart of that.

Hoke is getting back to the ground-and-pound, which means he needs fantastic offensive linemen to create big holes. He has landed some skilled linemen already, but because the Wolverines are getting back to a national powerhouse, Michigan is a great fit for Diamond.

Diamond has the skills to contribute early, as well as develop into a big star. He would certainly achieve great things at Michigan.

 

Arkansas


Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images
The Razorbacks are on the rise in the SEC and they have a big need for offensive lineman. The only problem is that Bobby Petrino doesn't have an offensive tackle in his 2012 class.
Arkansas does have two offensive guards, but they need to land Diamond to make the class more complete.

Diamond would be one of the major stars of the Razorbacks' 2012 recruiting class, which should entice him to want to go there. He has the chance to help keep Arkansas in the national scene, and that's why they're high on his best options list.

 
 

Wisconsin

The Badgers are known for producing outstanding linemen, which could prompt Diamond to choose them. His most recent visit was with Wisconsin, and that definitely gives them a small advantage.

Ultimately, Diamond will choose which school is best for him, and while the Badgers would be a good place, it's not great.

The reason is they're loaded with offensive line talent as it is. According to ESPN, they only have 12 commits, so they could certainly use Diamond.

Which School Needs Diamond the Most?

Arkansas
16.7%
Auburn
0.0%
Michigan
50.0%
Wisconsin
33.3%
Total votes: 6
However, three of those guys are offensive tackles, and it would benefit Diamond to go somewhere else where he didn't have to compete too much. 
 

Auburn

Gene Chizik is hoping to snag a few more recruits to make his 2012 class comparable to that of his archrival, Nick Saban.

The Tigers have stockpiled offensive linemen not just in this year's class, but also previous years under Chizik, so Diamond might be better off landing elsewhere.

Auburn's depth at offensive line is very strong, as the Tigers had 12 freshman offensive linemen this past season.

Diamond can win at any school he picks, especially Auburn, but playing time might be scare for quite awhile.

 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ups_hog on February 03, 2012, 11:28:41 AM
I really thought Diamond was either going to stay closer to home or end up here.  That's gonna suck if he ends up at Auburn.  I really don't care for Auburn.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 03, 2012, 11:35:52 AM


Arkansas


Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images
The Razorbacks are on the rise in the SEC and they have a big need for offensive lineman. The only problem is that Bobby Petrino doesn't have an offensive tackle in his 2012 class.
Arkansas does have two offensive guards, but they need to land Diamond to make the class more complete.

Diamond would be one of the major stars of the Razorbacks' 2012 recruiting class, which should entice him to want to go there. He has the chance to help keep Arkansas in the national scene, and that's why they're high on his best options list.



At Arkansas he will also learn how to pass block in a pro-style offense.  NFL teams tend to like that.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 03, 2012, 11:42:16 AM

Arkansas


Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images
The Razorbacks are on the rise in the SEC and they have a big need for offensive lineman. The only problem is that Bobby Petrino doesn't have an offensive tackle in his 2012 class.
Arkansas does have two offensive guards, but they need to land Diamond to make the class more complete.

Diamond would be one of the major stars of the Razorbacks' 2012 recruiting class, which should entice him to want to go there. He has the chance to help keep Arkansas in the national scene, and that's why they're high on his best options list.


I love how these guys like to talk out of their asses.  Does he think you have to recruit at least one guy for each position in every class?  Is he aware of the scholarship limit?  Does he realize that we stocked up with stud OTs last year, and that BMFP was specifically targeting guards in this class?  Sure, you don't let a talent like Diamond slip away if he wants to come to your school, but tackle was not a priority in this class.  Straight from the horse's mouth.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tampa TechnoHOG on February 03, 2012, 11:44:51 AM
At Arkansas he will also learn how to pass block in a pro-style offense.  NFL teams tend to like that.

Spot on.





Now who's Diamond's girlfriend.  Does she likes the Hogs?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: RedRiverHog on February 03, 2012, 01:09:22 PM
Spot on.





Now who's Diamond's girlfriend mother/guardian.  Does she likes talk shit the on Hogs Petrino?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 03, 2012, 01:28:46 PM
It's awesome and you know it.
What is your risk level?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: sainthog on February 03, 2012, 01:31:52 PM
I really thought Diamond was either going to stay closer to home or end up here.  That's gonna suck if he ends up at Auburn.  I really don't care for Auburn.

Auburn pays well.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Biff Malibu on February 03, 2012, 01:34:43 PM
It's awesome and you know it.

It's a lot of things...including awesome and disturbing!

Disturbingly awesome...

Awesomely disturbing...

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 03, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
It's a lot of things...including awesome and disturbing!

Disturbingly awesome...

Awesomely disturbing...

(http://troll.me/images/casey-anthony/i-love-it-when-a-plan-comes-together.jpg)

...too soon?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 03, 2012, 03:23:49 PM

Diamond can win at any school he picks, especially Auburn, but playing time might be scare for quite awhile.

this confuses me
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 03, 2012, 03:28:31 PM
this confuses me

Yep.  What, exactly, has the Chiz proven he can do in the SEC without having the benefit of the best season ever probably from a QB?  I just don't see it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on February 03, 2012, 03:46:38 PM
Yep.  What, exactly, has the Chiz proven he can do in the SEC without having the benefit of the best season ever probably from a QB?  I just don't see it.

Aubbies gots da bling, man.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YJUdOV1lKrs/TwvIkCimDkI/AAAAAAAAAWo/x8_BQNsHY4U/s1600/Dakota+Mosley.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 03, 2012, 04:16:18 PM
And they're ALL IN. It's all about that FAMILY.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: RazorWorld on February 03, 2012, 04:42:48 PM
Surprised Gus did so well in Arkansas.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=8&toinid=751&yr=2012

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 03, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
Surprised Gus did so well in Arkansas.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=8&toinid=751&yr=2012

Go fuck yourself
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Nukinhawg on February 03, 2012, 05:51:42 PM
Surprised Gus did so well in Arkansas.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=8&toinid=751&yr=2012

Wow!  First fuckin post and you come on talking about Kristi's husband?






Oh, I almost forgot.  Fire...go die in one.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on February 03, 2012, 07:34:02 PM
Jordan Diamond picks Auburn.  :suicide:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Green_Lanternn on February 03, 2012, 07:38:45 PM
Jordan Diamond picks Auburn.  :suicide:

It was a business decision  :stache:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 03, 2012, 07:39:14 PM
Jordan Diamond picks Auburn.  :suicide:

Guess we're going to go after Neal big-time now...?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Doc Hogaday on February 03, 2012, 07:39:34 PM
Jordan Diamond picks Auburn.  :suicide:

The money was too much.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 03, 2012, 08:17:39 PM
Guess we're going to go after Neal big-time now...?
We ain't getting him either. He's staying home and going to Arizona. The 2012 class is done with 24 signatures.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Razordoc on February 03, 2012, 08:23:12 PM
The money was too much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWQir3sL72Q&feature=player_detailpage

Diamonds, money, puthey, nationwide intrigue; WTF can you do?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: EastArkHog on February 03, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
It was a business decision  :stache:

He was recruited by  $Trooper "The Bagman" Taylor$

Can't win against that......
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 03, 2012, 10:05:50 PM
As much as I'd have liked to see Diamond land here, I think we should let that $Auburn$ stuff go, now. No reason to think that they paid this kid to commit, and even less reason (from what admittedly little we know about the kid and his mom) that they would even have been a party to that kind of thing. Was there shady stuff going on with Cecil Newton? Sure sounded like it. But, that doesn't mean that that's the typical process with Auburn - and certainly less reason to think that that was the case here. Suggesting otherwise everytime we miss out on a recruit to Auburn just sounds like sour grapes.

I remember last season, when we and Nebraska were competing for Mitchell, and all 'husker fans could talk about on their message board was how we must be paying him to come here and/or hooking his mom up with some cushy fabricated job. None of this was substantiated, because none of it was true. No reason to believe that anything shady went on with our recruitment of Mitchell; no reason to believe that anything shady went on with their recruitment of Diamond. Let's not allow ourselves to fall to the level of those folks who say x program must be paying their players each time we lose out on a recruit.

Just my two cents on it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: EastArkHog on February 03, 2012, 10:18:46 PM
As much as I'd have liked to see Diamond land here, I think we should let that $Auburn$ stuff go, now. No reason to think that they paid this kid to commit, and even less reason (from what admittedly little we know about the kid and his mom) that they would even have been a party to that kind of thing. Was there shady stuff going on with Cecil Newton? Sure sounded like it. But, that doesn't mean that that's the typical process with Auburn - and certainly less reason to think that that was the cae here. Suggesting otherwise everytime we miss out on a recruit to Auburn just sounds like sour grapes.

I remember last season, when we and Nebraska were competing for Mitchell, and all 'husker fans could talk about on their message board was how we must be paying him to come here and/or hooking his mom up with some cushy fabricated job. None of this was substantiated, because none of it was true. No reason to believe that anything shady went on with our recruitment of Mitchell; no reason to believe that anything shady went on with their recruitment of Diamond. Let's not allow ourselves to fall to the level of those folks who say x program must be paying their players each time we lose out on a recruit.

Just my two cents on it.

So play nice with our rivals...gotcha, I'll blow them kisses next time
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 03, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
So play nice with our rivals...gotcha, I'll blow them kisses next time

Not exactly what I was getting at.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogsrunwild on February 04, 2012, 05:40:04 AM
As much as I'd have liked to see Diamond land here, I think we should let that $Auburn$ stuff go, now. No reason to think that they paid this kid to commit, and even less reason (from what admittedly little we know about the kid and his mom) that they would even have been a party to that kind of thing. Was there shady stuff going on with Cecil Newton? Sure sounded like it. But, that doesn't mean that that's the typical process with Auburn - and certainly less reason to think that that was the case here. Suggesting otherwise everytime we miss out on a recruit to Auburn just sounds like sour grapes.

I remember last season, when we and Nebraska were competing for Mitchell, and all 'husker fans could talk about on their message board was how we must be paying him to come here and/or hooking his mom up with some cushy fabricated job. None of this was substantiated, because none of it was true. No reason to believe that anything shady went on with our recruitment of Mitchell; no reason to believe that anything shady went on with their recruitment of Diamond. Let's not allow ourselves to fall to the level of those folks who say x program must be paying their players each time we lose out on a recruit.

Just my two cents on it.

I think the difference between those situations is that neither us, nor Nebraska have been found to be paying recruits recently, as far as I know.  Auburn looked pretty fucking guilty last year and if a JC QB is worth 180k, before doing shit, you have to wonder how much a 5* player would be worth.  Also, we wouldn't have heard shit about Cam getting paid if he didn't turn out to be all-world. 

Auburn doesn't have a good track record of NOT cheating.  Guilty until proven innocent with those fuckers.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Gin on February 04, 2012, 09:39:11 AM
As much as I'd have liked to see Diamond land here, I think we should let that $Auburn$ stuff go, now. No reason to think that they paid this kid to commit, and even less reason (from what admittedly little we know about the kid and his mom) that they would even have been a party to that kind of thing. Was there shady stuff going on with Cecil Newton? Sure sounded like it. But, that doesn't mean that that's the typical process with Auburn - and certainly less reason to think that that was the case here. Suggesting otherwise everytime we miss out on a recruit to Auburn just sounds like sour grapes.

I remember last season, when we and Nebraska were competing for Mitchell, and all 'husker fans could talk about on their message board was how we must be paying him to come here and/or hooking his mom up with some cushy fabricated job. None of this was substantiated, because none of it was true. No reason to believe that anything shady went on with our recruitment of Mitchell; no reason to believe that anything shady went on with their recruitment of Diamond. Let's not allow ourselves to fall to the level of those folks who say x program must be paying their players each time we lose out on a recruit.

Just my two cents on it.
Ok dood!  Tommy Tuberville was high successful at Auburn and never ever recruited anywhere close to Chizik, Troopa, Curtis, and Gus.  You dont go 5-19 and come in and recruit back to back to back to back classes like they have done.  Auburn is payin and wont stop until they are forced to.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 04, 2012, 09:49:06 AM
everybody needs to pull their heads out of their asses.  any school worth a shit in college football or basketball cheats constantly on some level regarding their players/recruits and they've been doing it for 50 years.  most schools/coaches/boosters do a fine job of keeping it under wraps.  the NCAA knows this goes on but without obvious evidence like a rogue booster going ape shit becaues someone in the program made him angry like that nevin shapiro guy, or an investigative reporter releasing a story, or another team turning them in, they keep their heads in the sand. 

remember the 80's when 7 of the 9 swc football programs were all on probation or worse at the same time?  the ncaa didn't do shit for investigations until another swc school turned one in and gave them all of the info.  that school got mad and turned in the dirt they had on another school.  it started with texas turning in smu because they were butthurt over losing to the pony excess, smu got pissed and turned in a&m, a&m got pissed and turned in texas, etc.  arkansas and rice were the only schools not in trouble, but if you believe that is because neither were cheating you're a gullible dumbass.  they were just better at keeping a lid on it and none of the other schools had enough info to do any damage.

the difference in cheating between schools is the resources available and the risks they are willing to take.  there is a reason some schools/coaches get caught over and over and others never do; some know the limits and not to push them, and some don't; others just have more control over their boosters and who has access, etc. than others.  bobby lowder, pat dye, and auburn have been nailed before and there has been trails of smoke coming from that program for decades.  calipari got two basketball programs in trouble, but something tells me he's not going to get kentucky in trouble, not because he isn't cheating, probably much more so than at memphis and umass, but the people helping him cheat are much better at it than his supporting cast at memphis and umass. 

outside of track with tyson gay, arkansas hasn't been in any kind of trouble with the ncaa since the ted harrod thing, and neither of those would have been discovered if not for someone pissed off at the booster/coach/school flapping their gums.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 04, 2012, 09:52:14 AM

We need guys like Cobi, Bailey, Brey Cook, Knile, Tyler, Swanson, DD Jones, etc.. to start going high in the draft and we need to sneak up and win an SEC title.

PERIOD.  Then when we have that trophy.  We will start landing some of these guys.  That's your SEC closer.

In our SEC history we don't really have it.

UT has a long history of 1st rounders, an SEC and NC title.
Auburn has it.
UGA has it
LSU has it
Bama has it
Florida has

Teams like us, we will pull the stud from time to time but never the class full until that changes.  Until then we rely on the kick ass staff of evaluators we have and the system that in 4 years has us right there.  Better than all those programs other than Bama and LSU and the other schools have out recruited us every year.  And you know what, we still beat them.  We are deeper than we have ever been.  We are better coached than we have ever been.  I hate that we did not land any of the studs.  But we have to trust a system that has taken us this far in a short time.  It is not like his system is suddenly going to stop working and go backwards.  It can only get better.  Trust the system.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 04, 2012, 10:05:42 AM
So about that booster voicemail...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 04, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
We need guys like Cobi, Bailey, Brey Cook, Knile, Tyler, Swanson, DD Jones, etc.. to start going high in the draft and we need to sneak up and win an SEC title.

PERIOD.  Then when we have that trophy.  We will start landing some of these guys.  That's your SEC closer.

In our SEC history we don't really have it.

UT has a long history of 1st rounders, an SEC and NC title.
Auburn has it.
UGA has it
LSU has it
Bama has it
Florida has

Teams like us, we will pull the stud from time to time but never the class full until that changes.  Until then we rely on the kick ass staff of evaluators we have and the system that in 4 years has us right there.  Better than all those programs other than Bama and LSU and the other schools have out recruited us every year.  And you know what, we still beat them.  We are deeper than we have ever been.  We are better coached than we have ever been.  I hate that we did not land any of the studs.  But we have to trust a system that has taken us this far in a short time.  It is not like his system is suddenly going to stop working and go backwards.  It can only get better.  Trust the system.

I don't understand why people think this.  Otha Peters was an All American LB and rated the #6 LB in the country.  If Otha Peters, Darius Philon, Austin Flynn, Eric Hawkins, Nate Holmes, and most of the other guys we signed are not studs, then I don't know what recruit is a stud. 

If Davonte Neal doesn't sign with us (and he probably won't), it'll be nice to have a extra scholarship next year after we win the National Championship.   :helmet:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 04, 2012, 10:16:29 AM
I don't understand why people think this.  Otha Peters was an All American LB and rated the #6 LB in the country.  If Otha Peters, Darius Philon, Austin Flynn, Eric Hawkins, Nate Holmes, and most of the other guys we signed are not studs, then I don't know what recruit is a stud. 

If Davonte Neal doesn't sign with us (and he probably won't), it'll be nice to have a extra scholarship next year after we win the National Championship.   :helmet:
Not saying they are not.  I am talking about lining us a class of 4/5* (more than 2 or 3 per class).  I believe we have great evaluators of talent. We land a few first rounders (Childs and Knile would have been that for us this year w/o injuries) and we close better and better.  You are nuts if you don't think BP wanted these guys.  If he can mold Hoots left overs into what he did and mix in his recruits.  We will be rolling if we landed Neal, DGB, Diamond, etc...  I am thrilled with what we have. Just making a point.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 04, 2012, 10:25:37 AM
I don't understand why people think this.  Otha Peters was an All American LB and rated the #6 LB in the country.  If Otha Peters, Darius Philon, Austin Flynn, Eric Hawkins, Nate Holmes, and most of the other guys we signed are not studs, then I don't know what recruit is a stud. 

If Davonte Neal doesn't sign with us (and he probably won't), it'll be nice to have a extra scholarship next year after we win the National Championship
.   :helmet:
You can have all the extra scholarships you want but only sign 25. Thanks Houston Nutt. 

The caveat to that is we could sign someone at midterm a la Austin Flynn.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 04, 2012, 10:39:58 AM
Not saying they are not.  I am talking about lining us a class of 4/5* (more than 2 or 3 per class).  I believe we have great evaluators of talent. We land a few first rounders (Childs and Knile would have been that for us this year w/o injuries) and we close better and better.  You are nuts if you don't think BP wanted these guys.  If he can mold Hoots left overs into what he did and mix in his recruits.  We will be rolling if we landed Neal, DGB, Diamond, etc...  I am thrilled with what we have. Just making a point.
???

Who else did we miss on signing day onward other than DGB, and Diamond? 

So you're saying Coach Petrino didn't want any of these guys? 

Have you watched their videos?  Have you read their measurables?

Eric Hawkins is the fastest 100 meter runner we have ever signed for football that I am aware of (he's faster than Batman, Ronnie Wingo, and he's faster than Wallace Spearmon was in high school).  As a junior in high school Eric ran a 10.32 100 meters.  He will be one hell of an athlete for us.

Nate Holmes is 6' 1" 180lb athlete (running back) that runs a 4.4 40.

Etc, etc...

http://www.arpreps.com/signingday/

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 04, 2012, 11:09:02 AM
why recruiting rankings suck, and in the end are as useful as tits on a bull.

a player's ranking by espn/rivals/scout/24-7/joe bob's razorback underground recrootin newsletter is dependent on a few things completely unrelated to how good of a college football player they will be.

Recrootnik's ratings based on
1. who the slap dicks writing articles take the time to put the cheetos down, peel their legs off their momma's naugahyde vinyl couch in the basement, and actually evaluate and watch video of.
2. what their senior season stats are.
3. how good of a highschool player they are against their highschool competition.
4. height/size/shape/strength/speed
5. who offers them a scholarship
6. the # of sucker fans that will buy subscriptions that follow the schools that offer them scholarships

are the recrootnik's right a lot?  sure.  big, fast, strong kids that are stud hs players project to continuing being a stud, in time, against their peers they are currently studs over.  are they wrong alot?  much more so than they are right.

why are they wrong so much?  very few kids are the caliber of football player as a senior in high school that is needed to be a solid backup in college, let alone a starter or significant contributor.  there are many other factors that affect the recruits future potential that coaches should be looking at:

What else matters that recrootniks ignore
1. work ethic - do they work hard?  will they work hard in college or flame out because they are no longer the most athletically gifted person on the field?
2. has the kid peaked?  has he already fully physically matured?  does he have the potential to grow more, pack on muscle, etc.?  if the motherfucker looks 30, he's already as good as he's ever gonna be, which is probably equivalent to a serviceable backup or mediocre starter.
3. are they mentally mature and not go ape shit the minute they move outta momma's house?  numerous top ranked recruits that never make the team due to grades or get kicked off before they ever significantly contribute due to arrests/character issues.
4. are they intelligent enough to grasp the complex schemes/plays/assignments of college football?  (does not apply to hooten dale recroots or positions like dt)
5. how good is the coaching staff at developing players physically and teaching them to become great football players?

there is a little bit of overlap; #'s 3 and 4 from the recrootnik's ratings list are used by coaches to get their list of top 20 or 30 prospects at each position, then they whittle them down from there with criteria recrootniks ignore.  only 2 of the recrootnik's rating criteria are worth a shit to college programs, while 5 of the program's most important criteria aren't even considered by recrootniks.

recrootniks sell recruiting as though it is like it is in ea sports ncaa football 2012.  dude is given numbers for each attribute which emperically makes him a better player than others, players go to college and compete wtih said attributes, attributes increase a little bit each year, the best recruiting classes year after year = the most talented teams year after year and most talented teams win.

does recruting matter?  yes.  does it suck losing out on highly regarded recruits?  yes.  does that mean that a recruiting class will suck 2 or 3 years down the road?  no.  does having highly ranked classes regularly translate to being an elite program?  no.  notre dame, texas, florida, florida state, miami, and auburn can all attest to this the last couple of years...and next year for that matter.

I don't think petrino's strategy is to go after kids that are great high school football players.  I think he believes he can teach a recruit all they will ever need to know to become a great college football player, and therefore looks for athletically gifted kids with bodies that can be molded and are intelligent enough/mature enough to learn what he's teaching.  BMFP doesn't win by recruting great football players, he wins by creating great football players. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: McCarroll21 on February 04, 2012, 12:37:24 PM
You can have all the extra scholarships you want but only sign 25. Thanks Houston Nutt. 

The caveat to that is we could sign someone at midterm a la Austin Flynn.
If we signed one at mid-term, he could count back (Jalen Cobb, maybe?) and then we could sign 26. That's assuming we stay at 24.

Remember we also signed guys like Stringer and Atiga in May last year.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 04, 2012, 12:41:46 PM
maybe fayetteville ain't what we think it is for 18-24 year old males
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Razordoc on February 04, 2012, 12:42:10 PM
So about that booster voicemail...

No proof, of course, but I suspect that was left by a lol miz fan/booster in an attempt to incriminate us.  Don't forget the mommafricker who kept tweeting our recruits.  He turned out to be a tigger fan if memory serves me right.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Clark on February 04, 2012, 12:43:53 PM
Demetrius Wilson. I'm going to keep repeating this.

Also: lose the catfish hole. Find something else.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 04, 2012, 01:49:59 PM
@NWAVernon: Fayetteville senior WR Scotty Thurman, Jr. plans to walk on in fball at Arkansas. Yes. He's THAT Scotty Thurman Jr.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on February 04, 2012, 02:13:40 PM
@NWAVernon: Fayetteville senior WR Scotty Thurman, Jr. plans to walk on in fball at Arkansas. Yes. He's THAT Scotty Thurman Jr.

The appropriate thing for an SEC team to do now is to let Toby Bailey's son to walk-on at DB.

I KID, I KID
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 04, 2012, 02:51:56 PM
I think the difference between those situations is that neither us, nor Nebraska have been found to be paying recruits recently, as far as I know.  Auburn looked pretty fucking guilty last year and if a JC QB is worth 180k, before doing shit, you have to wonder how much a 5* player would be worth.  Also, we wouldn't have heard shit about Cam getting paid if he didn't turn out to be all-world. 

Auburn doesn't have a good track record of NOT cheating.  Guilty until proven innocent with those fuckers.

True. In the case of Diamond, though, I just don't think there's good reason to speculate about that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 04, 2012, 02:53:55 PM
Ok dood!  Tommy Tuberville was high successful at Auburn and never ever recruited anywhere close to Chizik, Troopa, Curtis, and Gus.  You dont go 5-19 and come in and recruit back to back to back to back classes like they have done.  Auburn is payin and wont stop until they are forced to.

Isn't it possible that, in many cases of recruitment, it's just that for whatever reason the recruits and parents gravitate towards the coaches and the program? Couldn't it be - in most cases, not all - that they're just good at recruiting, for whatever reason?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 04, 2012, 02:56:26 PM
Demetrius Wilson. I'm going to keep repeating this.

Also: lose the catfish hole. Find something else.

Yep. Any kid that BMFP lights up about the way he did when talking about Wilson is going to be the real deal.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on February 04, 2012, 04:42:37 PM
@NWAVernon: Fayetteville senior WR Scotty Thurman, Jr. plans to walk on in fball at Arkansas. Yes. He's THAT Scotty Thurman Jr.

Sucks that kid isn't the shooter Scotty was. We could use him.


Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: wolowitz on February 04, 2012, 04:56:08 PM

Also: lose the catfish hole. Find something else.


This.
I can't imagine just how gay tulsahog and his ilk at the catfish hole seem to high school boys.
Get rid of that shit.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tampa TechnoHOG on February 04, 2012, 05:04:31 PM
Isn't it possible that, in many cases of recruitment, it's just that for whatever reason the recruits and parents gravitate towards the coaches and the program? Couldn't it be - in most cases, not all - that they're just good at recruiting, for whatever reason?

I'm not even sure some of these schools are good at recruiting.  Kids that go out of state I think tend to focus more on what the perception of the program is.  We tend to look at our program through homer glasses, so of course some of us don't understand why an out of state kid doesn't pick us.  2 seasons of double digit wins has turned some 4-5 star heads to glance our way, but I think it's going to take at least 2 more continued seasons of ending with double digit wins for us to reap the recruiting 4-5 star rewards that we are feeling we should land.

Prior to our last 2 seasons, what does anyone think the national perception of our program was?  I think that's what Petrino has been fighting against when it comes to  recruiting.  He's slowly but surely changing minds, and thank goodness he knows how to evaluate and coach kids up while those minds are changing.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on February 04, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
The appropriate thing for an SEC team to do now is to let Toby Bailey's son to walk-on at DB.

I KID, I KID

and start.

dear lord
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 04, 2012, 05:39:11 PM
Demetrius Wilson. I'm going to keep repeating this.

Also: lose the catfish hole. Find something else.


This.
I can't imagine just how gay tulsahog and his ilk at the catfish hole seem to high school boys.
Get rid of that aMm.


Yeah, let's get rid of the one thing EVERY recruit mentions as the favorite part of his visit.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 04, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
I'm not even sure some of these schools are good at recruiting.  Kids that go out of state I think tend to focus more on what the perception of the program is.  We tend to look at our program through homer glasses, so of course some of us don't understand why an out of state kid doesn't pick us.  2 seasons of double digit wins has turned some 4-5 star heads to glance our way, but I think it's going to take at least 2 more continued seasons of ending with double digit wins for us to reap the recruiting 4-5 star rewards that we are feeling we should land.

Prior to our last 2 seasons, what does anyone think the national perception of our program was?  I think that's what Petrino has been fighting against when it comes to  recruiting.  He's slowly but surely changing minds, and thank goodness he knows how to evaluate and coach kids up while those minds are changing.

Agree. We're getting there.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Mike Slive on February 04, 2012, 09:02:06 PM

Yeah, let's get rid of the one thing EVERY recruit mentions as the favorite part of his visit.

I get both sides.  Are the kids just loving the Catfish Hole or is that where they feel the most love?  Is it the catfish itself, the crowd, or what?  Is the catfish and atmosphere so good that it can not be enhanced?  Plus, we hear about it from all the recruiting guys because that's what the dumb bastards always ask about.  What are the kids going to say? "It was a bit creepy, all these old white people screaming about us black kids they know nothing about. One of them ate my leftovers so I guess I will have to get use to that if I decide to come here."  I don't honestly know, never been one of the old white people there.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 04, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
Any idea when the Catfish Holes traditon started? I don't have much of an opinion on it, just curious how long that's been the place that the staff has been taking recruits to on visits.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Clark on February 04, 2012, 09:06:04 PM

Yeah, let's get rid of the one thing EVERY recruit mentions as the favorite part of his visit.
There are some that say it, but I can assure you that not all are saying it. We can do better. Furthermore, other schools are using it against us. They are playing the backwoods racist card on us.

Take them to Does. Powerhouse. Somewhere. Hire some waitresses that know what they are, uh, doing.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 04, 2012, 09:11:35 PM

After experiencing the dinner for recruits at the Catfish Hole last Friday night, the 4-Star defensive lineman prospect from Louisiana, Mickey Johnson said,  "The Catfish Hole is the greatest thing ever invented."

14 recruits, and their family members, along with new Hog, Qunita Funderburk and his family attended the dinner.

The room used for recruits was full, and the room where fans and regular customers was full as well.  Great food, and great atmosphere!

Pat, Janie, and their crew do a great job!

Hey, it helped us land Mickey Johnson last year! Yeah, maybe it's time for a change.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cooter on February 04, 2012, 09:36:57 PM
Every recruit I heard talk on signing day mentioned how cool the catfish hole was.  I used to bang on it, but if it works....
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: littlerayofsunshine on February 04, 2012, 10:04:28 PM
Every recruit I heard talk on signing day mentioned how cool the catfish hole was.  I used to bang on it, but if it works....

Sounds to me like our recruits need to get out of the fucking house more. 

There are some that say it, but I can assure you that not all are saying it. We can do better. Furthermore, other schools are using it against us. They are playing the backwoods racist card on us.

Take them to Does. Powerhouse. Somewhere. Hire some waitresses that know what they are, uh, doing.

Everyone always seems so amazed that these kids aren't instantly sold on Fayetteville and the NWA area in general.  I'm not sure if you guys are paying attention, but the only people that really seem that impressed with the area in my experience are white people.  What would seem to be an amazing experience to some is probably alienating to some of our recruits.  I like the place personally, but I'm not an 18-year-old black kid.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 04, 2012, 10:05:59 PM
Every recruit I heard talk on signing day mentioned how cool the catfish hole was.  I used to bang on it, but if it works....

what is your definition of works?

THe catfish hole is fucking lame. THese kids are being asked by our "recruiting gurus" what they thought of the catfish hole and the recruits are telling them it was great and the hushpuppies are tits and then committing to fucking somebody else. I promise you if these kids got real with you they would tell you it's lame.

oh, and the catfish sucks  :abe:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: KCHOGS on February 04, 2012, 10:11:28 PM
oh, and the catfish sucks  :abe:

How's that possible?  I've never eaten at the Catfish Hole, but catfish, cornmeal, and salt.  How do you fuck that up?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 04, 2012, 10:14:45 PM
How's that possible?  I've never eaten at the Catfish Hole, but catfish, cornmeal, and salt.  How do you frick that up?

Thry don't.  The hushpuppies kick ass.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on February 04, 2012, 10:17:47 PM
Are we starting this shit again?  Damn is Nolan a woopigga?  Blacks don't want to come to Fayetteville?  Serifuckingously? 

Austin Texas
Norman Oklahoma
South fucking bend
Anywhere in Mississippi or Alabama


Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: subliznime on February 04, 2012, 11:30:32 PM
???

Who else did we miss on signing day onward other than DGB, and Diamond? 

So you're saying Coach Petrino didn't want any of these guys? 

Have you watched their videos?  Have you read their measurables?

Eric Hawkins is the fastest 100 meter runner we have ever signed for football that I am aware of (he's faster than Batman, Ronnie Wingo, and he's faster than Wallace Spearmon was in high school).  As a junior in high school Eric ran a 10.32 100 meters.  He will be one Starkville of an athlete for us.

Nate Holmes is 6' 1" 180lb athlete (running back) that runs a 4.4 40.

Etc, etc...

http://www.arpreps.com/signingday/
We lost out on a commited courtney gardner to OU.i believe he will be a stud. Watch his tape.

I think michael grant ran a faster 100 time maybe?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Turd F. on February 04, 2012, 11:36:10 PM
We lost out on a commited courtney gardner to OU.i believe he will be a stud. Watch his tape.

I think michael grant ran a faster 100 time maybe?

I don't know if it was us losing out on him as much as it was that stupid SEC transfer rule.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 05, 2012, 01:03:17 AM
Thry don't.  The hushpuppies kick ass.

That they do. Say what you will about the lameness of the Catfish Holes and the creepiness of the hangers on there. Their puppies are the shiznit.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 05, 2012, 02:31:18 AM
We lost out on a commited courtney gardner to OU.i believe he will be a stud. Watch his tape.

I think michael grant ran a faster 100 time maybe?

Turd had it right.  Gardner wasnt going to get in due to sec transfer rules.  Same problem mike pennell had. 

Michael Grant wasnt faster in track in high school.  He was 1/10 of a second slower in the hundred, and Eric hasnt even started his senior season yet.  Nate Holmes is about the same speed as Michael Grant was in high school.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: MDEM on February 05, 2012, 07:57:36 AM
There are some that say it, but I can assure you that not all are saying it. We can do better. Furthermore, other schools are using it against us. They are playing the backwoods racist card on us.

Take them to Does. Powerhouse. Somewhere. Hire some waitresses that know what they are, uh, doing.

We can feed them steak and lobster, but we choose catfish and hush puppies.  I don't know the answer, but this just doesn't sound right.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: iNOVAhog on February 05, 2012, 07:58:11 AM
what is your definition of works?

THe catfish hole is fricking lame. THese kids are being asked by our "recruiting gurus" what they thought of the catfish hole and the recruits are telling them it was great and the hushpuppies are tits and then committing to fricking somebody else. I promise you if these kids got real with you they would tell you it's lame.

oh, and the catfish sucks  :abe:

I wondered about this in a thread on the Recruiting board, but it was dismissed.  I wouldn't try to get my kids to eat bottom feeding fish.  Petrino should do an opinion polls on the Catfish Hole with his players.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: TUSK_U on February 05, 2012, 09:31:05 AM
I wondered about this in a thread on the Recruiting board, but it was dismissed.  I wouldn't try to get my kids to eat bottom feeding fish.  Petrino should do an opinion polls on the Catfish Hole with his players.

Looks like fried sushi would have helped with dgb.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 05, 2012, 10:07:04 AM
Looks like fried sushi would have helped with dgb.

someone needs to really help these kids.  choosing who will teach you about football, develop you as a player, prepare you for the nfl, keep you out of trouble, and make you grow up as a man for the next 3 or 4 years based on what you eat, where you eat, how many signs you see with your picture or name on them, hearing the fans chant your name, etc. is fucking stupid.  the parents ought to be educating their kids about this stuff ahead of time so the kid can make the best informed decision on the right criteria and not on how good the food at the local restaurant is.

might as well pick out their first car purchase based solely on where the cup holders are and how many of them there.  they'd all end up driving dodge caravans.  but no, when it comes to important decisions like their ride, they'll choose wisely.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 05, 2012, 10:33:46 AM
Take them to Bottoms Up.  It smells like fish, anyway.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: iNOVAhog on February 05, 2012, 11:16:31 AM
Looks like fried sushi would have helped with dgb.

It ain't just the food that should be reassessed, but venue.  It has to unnerving coming into a packed restaurant of red faced, bug-eyed hog callers that watch your every move as if you're a fish bowl.  Take them to best steakhouse and don't announce it.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Ty Webb on February 05, 2012, 12:23:53 PM
“@BFeldmanCBS: There are 36 Patriots playing today who came up in internet recruiting era. 18 were rated as 2-Star prospects or unranked."
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogsrunwild on February 05, 2012, 01:54:35 PM
someone needs to really help these kids.  choosing who will teach you about football, develop you as a player, prepare you for the nfl, keep you out of trouble, and make you grow up as a man for the next 3 or 4 years based on what you eat, where you eat, how many signs you see with your picture or name on them, hearing the fans chant your name, etc. is fucking stupid.  the parents ought to be educating their kids about this stuff ahead of time so the kid can make the best informed decision on the right criteria and not on how good the food at the local restaurant is.

might as well pick out their first car purchase based solely on where the cup holders are and how many of them there.  they'd all end up driving dodge caravans.  but no, when it comes to important decisions like their ride, they'll choose wisely.

You really think most 18 year old kids make wise choices on cars if it was up to them?  They probably SHOULD be choosing a dodge caravan, but will end up with a  hooptie with 5k rims.

They choose universities like they choose cars, based on bling and pussy.  Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 05, 2012, 04:50:52 PM
You really think most 18 year old kids make wise choices on cars if it was up to them?  They probably SHOULD be choosing a dodge caravan, but will end up with a  hooptie with 5k rims.

They choose universities like they choose cars, based on bling and pussy.  Nothing more, nothing less.

which is why they need help.  but when they look for help they end up with fat walt.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Red Death on February 05, 2012, 06:40:01 PM
You really think most 18 year old kids make wise choices on cars if it was up to them?  They probably SHOULD be choosing a dodge caravan, but will end up with a  hooptie with 5k rims.

They choose universities like they choose cars, based on bling and puthy.  Nothing more, nothing less.
This is the most profound comment about recruiting ever.  The problem is most of these kids get zero guidance.  The Beckhams were a 100% improvement over dgb's biological mother but are complete shitforbrains themselves.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 05, 2012, 08:00:15 PM
They choose universities like they choose cars, based on bling and puthy.  Nothing more, nothing less.

You say that like its a bad thing.


I agree the catfish hole is a nice novelty but maybe there needs to be something else to focus on, right now our fans are our key selling point and this staff has really welcomed the fans and students a real chance to participate in this process. When the new facilities are built maybe that will end up being the sell. I don't know what goes on during these official visits but the way our media covers them it sounds like a carbon copy each time and I'm not sure that consistency is a good thing...might need to shake it up a bit and try new things is all I'm saying. Messican might be a good choice...
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: KSHogg on February 05, 2012, 09:03:46 PM
. Messican might be a good choice...

Or maybe someone could build a Chinese buffet up there!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Animal on February 05, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
Or maybe someone could build a Chinese buffet up there!

Is it illegal to eat sushi off Nekkid girls?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: littlerayofsunshine on February 05, 2012, 09:13:27 PM
Hooters!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: KSHogg on February 05, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Is it illegal to eat sushi off Nekkid girls?

Nekkid girls and raw fish.

 :hmmm:  overpowering!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hogsrunwild on February 06, 2012, 01:08:55 AM
Nekkid girls and raw fish.

 :hmmm:  overpowering!

You have probably never done this...

I won't say it is awesome, but it is something that every man that has the chance to do, should do.  Not sure what type of training they get, but the girl never moved a fucking muscle.  I thought she was fake at first.

If that shit will get recruits, we should arrange that right the fuck away. 

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Count Porkula on February 06, 2012, 01:40:29 AM
on the food front - Sassy's is doing more and more stuff for the football team and already does a ton for the basketball team.  i think the usual suspects are on their way out.  just another by product of the Frank era which is slowly dying.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 06, 2012, 09:19:50 AM
We can feed them steak and lobster, but we choose catfish and hush puppies.  I don't know the answer, but this just doesn't sound right.

Not sure I agree or disagree with the tactic but I do know, from having heard the interviews with recruits, that steak is the meal that most of them are served at the Catfish Hole.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Mike Slive on February 06, 2012, 09:39:12 AM
Not sure I agree or disagree with the tactic but I do know, from having heard the interviews with recruits, that steak is the meal that most of them are served at the Catfish Hole.

AYFSM? 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: WORD on February 06, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
so were serving steaks at a catfish shack. great, just great. so many better places to eat in NWA, and it's not even close. shit, BMFP needs to read the where to eat in fayetteville thread. you know he's one of us.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: porkaholics anonymous on February 06, 2012, 01:00:39 PM
Alabama has 12 of the ESPNu top 150 commited. The rest of the West has 9.

I started a thread about recruiting after the Alabama game and was lambasted. I stand by what I wrote. Bobby Petrino is a GREAT coach but I've yet to see him assemble a staff that looks to be great recruiters. I understand that he doesn't like recruiting, but he needs to hire someone that does. Yeah, we have been in the mix for all this elite talent but our staff really struggles at closing.

We will whiff on DGB, Santos, Peters, Diamond, Goodman, and Gardner. There is no way to positively spin that.


I agree 100%

I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 06, 2012, 01:07:27 PM
He called that play brotha!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Dr. HawgLove on February 06, 2012, 01:38:08 PM
Not sure I agree or disagree with the tactic but I do know, from having heard the interviews with recruits, that steak is the meal that most of them are served at the Catfish Hole.

That's like my kid ordering hamburgers at a good messican place.  You're doing it wrong. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: OneWhoAdores on February 06, 2012, 03:04:58 PM
are they wrong alot?  much more so than they are right.

Not true.  Recruting rankings are significantly correlated to end of season rankings and wins.  Here's an abstract of just one paper: http://jse.sagepub.com/content/4/3/240.short

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What else matters that recrootniks ignore
1. work ethic - do they work hard?  will they work hard in college or flame out because they are no longer the most athletically gifted person on the field?
2. has the kid peaked?  has he already fully physically matured?  does he have the potential to grow more, pack on muscle, etc.?  if the motherfricker looks 30, he's already as good as he's ever gonna be, which is probably equivalent to a serviceable backup or mediocre starter.
3. are they mentally mature and not go ape aMm the minute they move outta momma's house?  numerous top ranked recruits that never make the team due to grades or get kicked off before they ever significantly contribute due to arrests/character issues.
4. are they intelligent enough to grasp the complex schemes/plays/assignments of college football?  (does not apply to hooten dale recroots or positions like dt)

I admit that some of these variables explain the interim between recruiting ranking and how things go for the program in the long run, but how can you hold ANY of this against recruiting services?  How could Petrino evaluate this stuff either?  For that matter, how could the PLAYER HIMSELF know any of this stuff??


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does having highly ranked classes regularly translate to being an elite program?  no.  notre dame, texas, florida, florida state, miami, and auburn can all attest to this the last couple of years...and next year for that matter.

The abstract linked above denies the spirit of what you're saying about highly ranked classes and elite programs (hell, common sense does, too).  But two other things:

(1) look at Utah State, Marshall, FIU, or name your shit school.  They recruit like ass and they finish like ass in the standings.  You can pick all the outliers you want (there will be some overachievers and underachievers), but the general trend remains the same.

(2) Even if your point were worth anything, all it shows is that you can recruit like a badass and not make it.  That doesn't address whether you can recruit like ass and make it.  The schools I mentioned haven't.  The question is whether we can.


We do have, I think, a top 5 coach.  And that does give us some hope for thinking we could be one of the those overachievers.  But believing that does NOT mean recruiting rankings are 'worthless'.  There wouldn't be any reason to talk about Petrino's ability to coach up players UNLESS YOU ALREADY THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME SUBSTANCE TO THE RECRUITING EVALUATIONS (that, to make this as plain as possible, they're probably right we got less talent, but it doesn't matter because we actually have a coach). 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 06, 2012, 03:21:19 PM
Not true.  Recruting rankings are significantly correlated to end of season rankings and wins.  Here's an abstract of just one paper: http://jse.sagepub.com/content/4/3/240.short

I admit that some of these variables explain the interim between recruiting ranking and how things go for the program in the long run, but how can you hold ANY of this against recruiting services?  How could Petrino evaluate this stuff either?  For that matter, how could the PLAYER HIMSELF know any of this stuff??


The abstract linked above denies the spirit of what you're saying about highly ranked classes and elite programs (Starkville, common sense does, too).  But two other things:

(1) look at Utah State, Marshall, FIU, or name your aMm school.  They recruit like ass and they finish like ass in the standings.  You can pick all the outliers you want (there will be some overachievers and underachievers), but the general trend remains the same.

(2) Even if your point were worth anything, all it shows is that you can recruit like a badass and not make it.  That doesn't address whether you can recruit like ass and make it.  The schools I mentioned haven't.  The question is whether we can.


We do have, I think, a top 5 coach.  And that does give us some hope for thinking we could be one of the those overachievers.  But believing that does NOT mean recruiting rankings are 'worthless'.  There wouldn't be any reason to talk about Petrino's ability to coach up players UNLESS YOU ALREADY THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME SUBSTANCE TO THE RECRUITING EVALUATIONS (that, to make this as plain as possible, they're probably right we got less talent, but it doesn't matter because we actually have a coach).

You would think if BMFP stays here long enough the blue chip recruits and or their coaches\parents would notice the trend of how much we win despite great recruiting rankings and how much NFL talent we have despite high recruiting rankings and pick us over one of those underachievers mentioned above. Every year I follow recruiting hoping to see that happen. But it hasn't yet.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cooter on February 06, 2012, 04:30:42 PM
You would think if BMFP stays here long enough the blue chip recruits and or their coaches\parents would notice the trend of how much we win despite great recruiting rankings and how much NFL talent we have despite high recruiting rankings and pick us over one of those underachievers mentioned above. Every year I follow recruiting hoping to see that happen. But it hasn't yet.

Shit like that doesn't happen overnight.  We haven't been relevant since the 80's so it will take BMFP + Winning to get those good recruits.  You can't tell me that Alabama or Oklahoma is a nicer place for a young man to live than Fayetteville.  It will take more than 2 years of winning which is basically where we are.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sliver72 on February 06, 2012, 06:21:30 PM
Shit like that doesn't happen overnight.  We haven't been relevant since the 80's so it will take BMFP + Winning to get those good recruits.  You can't tell me that Alabama or Oklahoma is a nicer place for a young man to live than Fayetteville.  It will take more than 2 years of winning which is basically where we are.
Patience, right? I agree with you. We are miles to the good from where we were four years ago. We are on our way. We don't have a seat at the table yet, but people are starting to notice that we are at the cookout. If there was only one thing Al Davis was spot on about, it was "Just win, baby."
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 06, 2012, 10:22:38 PM
Not true.  Recruting rankings are significantly correlated to end of season rankings and wins.  Here's an abstract of just one paper: http://jse.sagepub.com/content/4/3/240.short

I admit that some of these variables explain the interim between recruiting ranking and how things go for the program in the long run, but how can you hold ANY of this against recruiting services?  How could Petrino evaluate this stuff either?  For that matter, how could the PLAYER HIMSELF know any of this stuff??


The abstract linked above denies the spirit of what you're saying about highly ranked classes and elite programs (hell, common sense does, too).  But two other things:

(1) look at Utah State, Marshall, FIU, or name your shit school.  They recruit like ass and they finish like ass in the standings.  You can pick all the outliers you want (there will be some overachievers and underachievers), but the general trend remains the same.

(2) Even if your point were worth anything, all it shows is that you can recruit like a badass and not make it.  That doesn't address whether you can recruit like ass and make it.  The schools I mentioned haven't.  The question is whether we can.


We do have, I think, a top 5 coach.  And that does give us some hope for thinking we could be one of the those overachievers.  But believing that does NOT mean recruiting rankings are 'worthless'.  There wouldn't be any reason to talk about Petrino's ability to coach up players UNLESS YOU ALREADY THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME SUBSTANCE TO THE RECRUITING EVALUATIONS (that, to make this as plain as possible, they're probably right we got less talent, but it doesn't matter because we actually have a coach).

there is a lot to recruiting a player that recrootniks don't look at or evaluate that BMFP does.  that's all it boils down to. 

every recruiting class needs to be coached up.  if not then Florida State, Notre Dame, Clemson, Auburn, and Texas A&M would have finished in the top 5 each of the last 5 or 6 years.  maybe their coaching staffs are so fucking stupid they cause more harm than if the recruits coached themselves, who knows. 

take a look at your average nfl roster, stocked full of kids from no-name colleges.  it aint because they turned down big-time programs.  its because big-time programs did not properly evaluate the recruits.  hell, willie roaf was just elected to the pro football hall of fame.  he played hs ball in arkansas and his biggest scholly offer was to UCA.

about 20% of the can't miss 5-star prospects never even get drafted, that's a pretty big fucking margin of error for "experts" that spend 40 hrs per week 50 weeks a year evaluating high school talent.

you want to win recruiting national championships of the world, go be a clemson or florida state fan and get the fuck out.  there is more to winning than recruiting, and apparently BMFP and his staff kick the shit out of every other coaching staff in the country when it comes to everything else.  no other staff consistently gains 30 spots in the re-rankings 4 years later.  John L Smith and BMFP recruited more players drafted into the NFL at Louisville than Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, etc. did during the same 4 year span and Louisville's highest recruiting ranking while they were there was about 29th. 

keep on being a dumbfuck, paying out your $9.95 a month to read a bunch of bullshit articles on rivals or whatever you hang your hat on, and believe whatever it is you believe.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 07, 2012, 07:35:52 AM
there is a lot to recruiting a player that recrootniks don't look at or evaluate that BMFP does.  that's all it boils down to. 

I've always been under the impression that Petrino recruits based on potential more than he does based on existing athletic ability.  In his presser the other day he kept mentioning how young the recruits were and I think that speaks to this mindset.  Rivals/Scout/etc. look at the player's athletic ability and talent level right now and how they did when lined up against high school opponents.  Petrino rates them based on what they are going to look like in two years when they have spent a few semesters on the practice field and in the weight room.

As far as Dorial Green-Beckham goes... I admit I wanted DGB, you wanted DGB, Petrino wanted DGB.  But considering what we know now, that DGB is playing for personal glory and not for championships, do you still want him playing for the Hogs?  Considering the slight family drama that followed his selection and the past experiences that Arkansas has had with players' parents would you really want him running through the A on Saturdays?  At the end of the day I just hope that he was seriously considering the Razorbacks at one point and wasn't just using the school as a decoy to create drama.  After all, he did stand in the crowd at BWA and call the Hogs.

For those that see the rankings and Arkansas' lack of "stars" let me ask you this, considering what we know about Michael Dyer now would you still want to see him playing for the Razorbacks?
Title: Re: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: bigghurtt on February 07, 2012, 08:00:35 AM
But considering what we know now, that DGB is playing for personal glory and not for championships, do you still want him playing for the Hogs?

Yes.  Absolutely.  100%.  OBVIOUSLY.

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considering what we know about Michael Dyer now would you still want to see him playing for the Razorbacks?

I didn't want him then.  DGB's recruitment had basically nothing in common with Dyer's, other than not picking us, though.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on February 07, 2012, 12:27:19 PM
there is a lot to recruiting a player that recrootniks don't look at or evaluate that BMFP does.  that's all it boils down to. 

every recruiting class needs to be coached up.  if not then Florida State, Notre Dame, Clemson, Auburn, and Texas A&M would have finished in the top 5 each of the last 5 or 6 years.  maybe their coaching staffs are so fucking stupid they cause more harm than if the recruits coached themselves, who knows. 

take a look at your average nfl roster, stocked full of kids from no-name colleges.  it aint

because they turned down big-time programs.  its because big-time programs did not properly evaluate the recruits.  hell, willie roaf was just elected to the pro football hall of fame.  he played hs ball in arkansas and his biggest scholly offer was to UCA.

about 20% of the can't miss 5-star prospects never even get drafted, that's a pretty big fucking margin of error for "experts" that spend 40 hrs per week 50 weeks a year evaluating high school talent.

you want to win recruiting national championships of the world, go be a clemson or florida state fan and get the fuck out.  there is more to winning than recruiting, and apparently BMFP and his staff kick the shit out of every other coaching staff in the country when it comes to everything
else.  no other staff consistently gains 30 spots in the re-rankings 4 years later.  John L Smith and BMFP recruited more players drafted into the NFL at Louisville than Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, etc. did during the same 4 year span and Louisville's highest recruiting ranking while they were there was about 29th. 

keep on being a dumbfuck, paying out your $9.95 a month to read a bunch of bullshit articles on rivals or whatever you hang your hat on, and believe whatever it is you believe.


^^^^^^^
all of this.
Yes.  Absolutely.  100%.  OBVIOUSLY.

I didn't want him then.  DGB's recruitment had basically nothing in common with Dyer's, other than not picking us, though.


^^^^^^^
With a lot of this
mixed in.
Title: Re: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Hognarok on February 07, 2012, 01:14:40 PM
Yes.  Absolutely.  100%.  OBVIOUSLY.

I didn't want him then.  DGB's recruitment had basically nothing in common with Dyer's, other than not picking us, though.

I didn't intend to compare the two, sorry if that was the way it was read.  I threw Dyer's name out there because despite all of those stars, Petrino didn't really give two shits about recruiting him and its apparent to the rest of the college football world why that is now.  At the time Dyer was being recruited Petrino saw him for what he was, a 19 year old self-centered 5 star athlete 1 star human being who had already peaked in his senior year.  Its all down hill from here for Dyer. 

When it comes to football, Petrino is smarter than me, you, and every single one of those evaluators.  It's why he's making $Threeve million a year and they are making whatever the fuck it is they get paid to assign 4 or 5 stars to every single player Alabama offers.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cooter on February 07, 2012, 01:46:54 PM
Here's a recruit for BMFP.

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/good-sports/201202/still-scarred-two-wars-american-hero-daniel-rodriquez-chases-his-football-dr



The nights are torturous for Daniel Rodriguez. Body twitching, mind racing, he's transported back in time long after the battle has ended. Once again he's surrounded by gunfire, a rocket-propelled-grenade flying past his helmet. He relives the devastating moment his best friend dropped to the ground, as a single bullet took his life. He can feel, smell, hear everything, until he is torn from his sleep, covered in a cold sweat.

The 24-year-old former Army infantryman calls them night terrors. They are brought on by post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and traumatic brain injury from an RPG attack in Iraq. And there's only one way he knows to cope every day.

"I just translate that into the gym," he says, "and into the weight room. And I force and funnel it all through when I play football. It just comes out."

The next battle for Rodriguez is nothing like the two wars he's been through. But he's motivated just the same. Every day is a grueling ritual of lifting weights, doing hundreds of push-ups, dips, sit-ups, pull-ups, running sprints and routes -- all in the memory of the band of brothers he lost. All in the hope to fulfill a promise to do something extraordinary with the rest of his life.



Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on February 07, 2012, 02:33:45 PM
Here's a recruit for BMFP.

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/good-sports/201202/still-scarred-two-wars-american-hero-daniel-rodriquez-chases-his-football-dr



The nights are torturous for Daniel Rodriguez. Body twitching, mind racing, he's transported back in time long after the battle has ended. Once again he's surrounded by gunfire, a rocket-propelled-grenade flying past his helmet. He relives the devastating moment his best friend dropped to the ground, as a single bullet took his life. He can feel, smell, hear everything, until he is torn from his sleep, covered in a cold sweat.

The 24-year-old former Army infantryman calls them night terrors. They are brought on by post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and traumatic brain injury from an RPG attack in Iraq. And there's only one way he knows to cope every day.

"I just translate that into the gym," he says, "and into the weight room. And I force and funnel it all through when I play football. It just comes out."

The next battle for Rodriguez is nothing like the two wars he's been through. But he's motivated just the same. Every day is a grueling ritual of lifting weights, doing hundreds of push-ups, dips, sit-ups, pull-ups, running sprints and routes -- all in the memory of the band of brothers he lost. All in the hope to fulfill a promise to do something extraordinary with the rest of his life.

Great hustle!  :suicide:

http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78838.0 (http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=78838.0)
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: OneWhoAdores on February 07, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
there is a lot to recruiting a player that recrootniks don't look at or evaluate that BMFP does.  that's all it boils down to.
 

like what??  what is it Petrino does that recruiting evaluators don't??  you mentioned some shit (where your peak is, whether you can handle not being the supreme athlete), I disputed it (because no one could evaluate those things--not even the athlete), and you didn't have a response.  I'm just supposed to take it in faith now??

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take a look at your average nfl roster, stocked full of kids from no-name colleges.  it aint because they turned down big-time programs.  its because big-time programs did not properly evaluate the recruits.  Starkville, willie roaf was just elected to the pro football hall of fame.  he played hs ball in arkansas and his biggest scholly offer was to UCA.

This is irrelevant.  The paper I cited--and the position I'm maintaining--talks about the accuracy of recruiting rankings for wins and rankings IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.  Unless Arkansas somehow starts playing in the NFC South or some shit, I'm not going to be worried about recruiting rankings vis-a-vis the NFL.  I don't know or care how those rankings turn out for NFL wins, HOF inductions, Pro Bowls, or any of that shit.  NFL scouts have the benefit of far more information than the CFB couternparts, seeing how they perform in the most demanding football environments the players are allowed to be in.  It's not fair to blame recruiting experts that they can't predict if a 17 year old will make it in the NFL when the players they're evaluating aren't developmentally mature psychologically or physically (as they will be by the time NFL scouts get a look at them). 

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about 20% of the can't miss 5-star prospects never even get drafted, that's a pretty big fricking margin of error for "experts" that spend 40 hrs per week 50 weeks a year evaluating high school talent.

1) this is irrelevant for the same reasons I've already mentioned.

2) God knows where you're getting the numbers from.

3) even if you did just dream them up, don't they OBVIOUSLY OFFER SUPPORT FOR MY VIEW (and contradict the point you were just making above)???  you're saying that 80% of the time when a recruiting service ranks a player at 5-star they end up in the league?  That is a remarkable rate!  Especially when you consider that some of these guys pick up career ending injuries before the league, and that some of them are just the types of players that do well in college but not in the league, to say nothing of legal troubles and all that first-time-on-your-own-and-you're-a-star crap, how can you possibly think that is a large margin of error???  i'm not sure what the odds are of HS players making it to the NFL, but it must be worse than 1 in tens of thousands.  And these guys can pick the studs, the can't-misses, and be right that they'll go on to be the one player in those tens of thousands 80% of the time?  gtfo that's a large margin of error.  Even 25% correct would be something.

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keep on being a dumbfuck, paying out your $9.95 a month to read a bunch of bullshit articles on rivals or whatever you hang your hat on, and believe whatever it is you believe.

i don't read, much less subscribe to, recruiting websites, don't care about recruiting at all until around January, and, to be honest, don't think i can name more than 5 or 6 of our recruits THIS YEAR without peeking. 

what i do know is that observational studies, written by people with degrees, published in academic journals, therefore independently verified by referees with degrees, have shown that recruiting rankings significantly predict your future rankings and future wins.  that's real evidence that the rankings get things right and are not worthless.  you, on the other hand, claim that recruiting rankings are worthless (as useful as tits on a bull!) on the basis of the nonsense above, most of which isn't even relevant.  i'll leave it to you to determine who is the 'dumbfuck' just 'believing whatever it is you believe'.  it ain't me.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 07, 2012, 05:08:02 PM
 

like what??  what is it Petrino does that recruiting evaluators don't??




































Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 07, 2012, 05:09:32 PM
 

like what??  what is it Petrino does that recruiting evaluators don't??

coach football?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: intercept on February 07, 2012, 05:28:32 PM
coach football?

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 07, 2012, 05:31:27 PM

like what??  what is it Petrino does that recruiting evaluators don't?? 

Holy crap, the tardation level has now hit defcon get the hell out everyone is about to die.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Passed on February 07, 2012, 05:58:13 PM
 

like what??  what is it Petrino does that recruiting evaluators don't?? 
Any valid points you might have made have now...

coach football?

...been rendered moot.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sliver72 on February 07, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
 

like what??  what is it Petrino does that recruiting evaluators don't??  you mentioned some shit (where your peak is, whether you can handle not being the supreme athlete), I disputed it (because no one could evaluate those things--not even the athlete), and you didn't have a response.  I'm just supposed to take it in faith now??

This is irrelevant.  The paper I cited--and the position I'm maintaining--talks about the accuracy of recruiting rankings for wins and rankings IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.  Unless Arkansas somehow starts playing in the NFC South or some shit, I'm not going to be worried about recruiting rankings vis-a-vis the NFL.  I don't know or care how those rankings turn out for NFL wins, HOF inductions, Pro Bowls, or any of that shit.  NFL scouts have the benefit of far more information than the CFB couternparts, seeing how they perform in the most demanding football environments the players are allowed to be in.  It's not fair to blame recruiting experts that they can't predict if a 17 year old will make it in the NFL when the players they're evaluating aren't developmentally mature psychologically or physically (as they will be by the time NFL scouts get a look at them). 

1) this is irrelevant for the same reasons I've already mentioned.

2) God knows where you're getting the numbers from.

3) even if you did just dream them up, don't they OBVIOUSLY OFFER SUPPORT FOR MY VIEW (and contradict the point you were just making above)???  you're saying that 80% of the time when a recruiting service ranks a player at 5-star they end up in the league?  That is a remarkable rate!  Especially when you consider that some of these guys pick up career ending injuries before the league, and that some of them are just the types of players that do well in college but not in the league, to say nothing of legal troubles and all that first-time-on-your-own-and-you're-a-star crap, how can you possibly think that is a large margin of error???  i'm not sure what the odds are of HS players making it to the NFL, but it must be worse than 1 in tens of thousands.  And these guys can pick the studs, the can't-misses, and be right that they'll go on to be the one player in those tens of thousands 80% of the time?  gtfo that's a large margin of error.  Even 25% correct would be something.

i don't read, much less subscribe to, recruiting websites, don't care about recruiting at all until around January, and, to be honest, don't think i can name more than 5 or 6 of our recruits THIS YEAR without peeking. 

what i do know is that observational studies, written by people with degrees, published in academic journals, therefore independently verified by referees with degrees, have shown that recruiting rankings significantly predict your future rankings and future wins.  that's real evidence that the rankings get things right and are not worthless.  you, on the other hand, claim that recruiting rankings are worthless (as useful as tits on a bull!) on the basis of the nonsense above, most of which isn't even relevant.  i'll leave it to you to determine who is the 'dumbfuck' just 'believing whatever it is you believe'.  it ain't me.
The Woopig "Fuck You, dickhead!"...

You're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 07, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BASS on February 07, 2012, 06:59:38 PM

what i do know is that observational studies, written by people with degrees, published in academic journals, therefore independently verified by referees with degrees, have shown that recruiting rankings significantly predict your future rankings and future wins.  that's real evidence that the rankings get things right and are not worthless.  you, on the other hand, claim that recruiting rankings are worthless (as useful as tits on a bull!) on the basis of the nonsense above, most of which isn't even relevant.  i'll leave it to you to determine who is the 'dumbfuck' just 'believing whatever it is you believe'.  it ain't me.

i know a lot of people with degrees, undergrad, masters, and even some phd's and the majority are fucking idiots outside of their little area of specialty. 

i know a shit load more about research, statistics, experiments, emperical data, and publishing in academic journals than you do.  the results have more to do with how you set up the study than what you observed and reported.  any study can be twisted to show pretty much whatever you want it to show. 

all of that to say i don't give a fuck what your source says because it not any more credible than the national enquirer.

did the guy(s) who wrote that horse shit ever think that the rankings of the players are directly correlated and heavily influenced based off of who offered?  maybe they got it backwards and winning programs offering recruits a scholly is more directly correlated to high rankings than the other way around.  recruiting matters, recruiting rankings, not near as much.  i'm not sure boise state has ever sniffed the top 70 in recruiting rankings, how does the paper explain their success? 

don't answer that, I'm tired of seeing teh woopussy having to endure such pain and agony from reading dumbassery.  hearing of a fellow woopigga going blind because he stabbed himself in the eyes with a fork to escape the dumbassery that I helped enable would make me feel bad.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on February 07, 2012, 08:37:18 PM



did the guy(s) who wrote that horse shit ever think that the rankings of the players are directly correlated and heavily influenced based off of who offered?? 




I offer as support for your argument(not thatnitnis really needed) one Mr. Brandon Allen.
Rated as a 2* forever because he committed early to Arkansas, asshat analysts saw he had no other offers, his dad is a coach here, he must not be very good, right?  Suprise.  He actually is.

I'm not sure how to spell this second example, but Dubble Are pronounces it Venn Ass-kah-leese-say.  Fucking parade All American.  2*.  Yep, obviously evaluated very well by the super alert eperts at Scout.fart and Rivals.

I heard it said the other day and it makes perfect sense. The 5* recruits are obviously the best high school players Available.  The knock is that they possibly have already peaked.  Some obviously haven't, but many have.  That is why BMFP&Co. Trend towards players who are developing, perhaps have a huge upside, insteadof those who have possibly already been the biggest fish in the pond, and have no room for improvement.

I like the way the man thinks.
It seems to = wins
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 08, 2012, 07:04:58 AM

I offer as support for your argument(not thatnitnis really needed) one Mr. Brandon Allen.
Rated as a 2* forever because he committed early to Arkansas, asshat analysts saw he had no other offers, his dad is a coach here, he must not be very good, right?  Suprise.  He actually is.

I'm not sure how to spell this second example, but Dubble Are pronounces it Venn Ass-kah-leese-say.  Fucking parade All American.  2*.  Yep, obviously evaluated very well by the super alert eperts at Scout.fart and Rivals.

I heard it said the other day and it makes perfect sense. The 5* recruits are obviously the best high school players Available.  The knock is that they possibly have already peaked.  Some obviously haven't, but many have.  That is why BMFP&Co. Trend towards players who are developing, perhaps have a huge upside, insteadof those who have possibly already been the biggest fish in the pond, and have no room for improvement.

I like the way the man thinks.
It seems to = wins

BMFP pronounced it ASS-co-lease.  Meh.

All good points, and the one that I think was the best argument against this shit is that the top-rated kids are also rated so high because they are so highly recruited by the better programs.  They bring in those good talents and corch 'em up and turn them into studs.  The rankings lag the program development a bit, so I'd expect that a program like ours that is doing nothing but improving will suddenly find itself with a whole lot of 4* recruits based solely on the fact that BMFP and co were hot and heavy on them and they committed to us.  I'd bet that a good portion of those 5* studs were great because of where they played, and not necessarily the other way around.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Passed on February 08, 2012, 07:19:52 AM
hearing of a fellow woopigga going blind because he stabbed himself in the eyes with a fork to escape the dumbassery that I helped enable would make me feel bad.

Kinder & gentler WooPig?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 08, 2012, 09:13:15 AM

I offer as support for your argument(not thatnitnis really needed) one Mr. Brandon Allen.
Rated as a 2* forever because he committed early to Arkansas, asshat analysts saw he had no other offers, his dad is a coach here, he must not be very good, right?  Suprise.  He actually is.

He was a 3 on Scout and a 4 on Rivals.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 08, 2012, 09:30:54 AM
He was a 3 on Scout and a 4 on Rivals.

That wasn't his point.  They're saying he was rated extremely poorly up until, I think, the final evaluation when they finally got tape on him.

There's a level of disrespect given to Petrino "reaches."  BA had no other offers, but Bobby Petrino made him his only QB commit.  Bobby Petrino.  It's like Saban finding a DB.  Everyone would automatically assume the player was at LEAST a 3* and assign that rating without ever seeing film.  That same rule doesn't apply to everyone. 

The recruiting sites just don't have the resources to properly evaluate every kid. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Pork Soda on February 08, 2012, 10:09:22 AM

The recruiting sites just don't have the fucking brains to properly evaluate every kid.

Which sort of reinforces the idea that it is really just a beauty contest.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 08, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
Exhibit A:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/Auburn/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-rivals100/2013

Altee Tenpenny gets rated the #20 recruit in the country, #3 RB, and is a borderline 5 star player.  He didn't play AT ALL this season. He rushed for 1100 and 15td's as a sophomore.  Doesn't seem to add up does it? How they are so adamant that, despite this kid's very small sample size and injury history, he's one of the top 20 players in the country.

Oh. You guys heard he committed to Alabama, right?  Nevermind.  He's absolutely a top 20 player, then.

Laughable.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: griffinhogsfan on February 08, 2012, 11:15:30 AM
Exhibit A:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/Auburn/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-rivals100/2013



Looking over that list its amazing how there is only one guy from the state of Arkansas and of course he's committed to Bama
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 08, 2012, 11:16:46 AM
Looking over that list its amazing how there is only one guy from the state of Arkansas and of course he's committed to Bama

Makes me sick.  I realize the kid grew up a Bama fan.  Guess we didn't play enough games in LR.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Phat_Hawg on February 08, 2012, 11:21:05 AM
Looking over that list its amazing how there is only one guy from the state of Arkansas and of course he's committed to Bama

Yeah committing early to 'bama is pretty important because that way a player is assured of having a spot reserved for them and they don't run the risk of losing an offer if a better player comes along. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 08, 2012, 12:06:50 PM

I offer as support for your argument(not thatnitnis really needed) one Mr. Brandon Allen.
Rated as a 2* forever
because he committed early to Arkansas, asshat analysts saw he had no other offers, his dad is a coach here, he must not be very good, right?  Suprise.  He actually is.

I'm not sure how to spell this second example, but Dubble Are pronounces it Venn Ass-kah-leese-say.  Fucking parade All American.  2*.  Yep, obviously evaluated very well by the super alert eperts at Scout.fart and Rivals.

I heard it said the other day and it makes perfect sense. The 5* recruits are obviously the best high school players Available.  The knock is that they possibly have already peaked.  Some obviously haven't, but many have.  That is why BMFP&Co. Trend towards players who are developing, perhaps have a huge upside, insteadof those who have possibly already been the biggest fish in the pond, and have no room for improvement.

I like the way the man thinks.
It seems to = wins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIks25FWfE

http://rivals.yahoo.com/arkansas/football/recruiting/player-Brandon-Allen-79359

 :police:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 08, 2012, 12:10:08 PM
Makes me sick.  I realize the kid grew up a Bama fan.  Guess we didn't play enough games in LR.

I wish we'd gotten him too (and, who knows, we still might). But it's hard to recruit a kid that grew up a fan of a particular team, especially when that team just won a BCSNC. James is committed here, we'll be fine at RB if Tenpenny doesn't come around to seeing the light.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on February 08, 2012, 12:17:34 PM
Yeah committing early to 'bama is pretty important because that way a player is assured of having a spot reserved for them and they don't run the risk of losing an offer if a better player comes along.


I found this. :sarcasm:
I'm quite sure you misplaced it or forgot it somehow.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 08, 2012, 12:20:20 PM
I just now noticed Rivals analysis of Brandon Allen

SCOUTING REPORT ON BRANDON ALLEN

On the Hoof: His most prominent feature is his muscular powerbase and legs. His upper body is still a bit thin. He is not the tallest quarterback, but is taller than 6-1.

Needs Improvement: Add some upper-body strength. He is so accurate that he sometimes tries to force the ball into very tight spaces that most quarterbacks would never try. At the next level the defenders are quicker to react to the ball.

Most Impressive: His accuracy is as good as it gets for a quarterback coming out of high school. Allen has excellent touch and puts enough air under his fades that receivers can always make a play on the ball. He also sees the whole field and does not lock in on just one receiver. He can buy time in the pocket.

Conclusion: All quarterbacks should redshirt as they learn the offense. But I would not be surprised if he gets some looks as the backup quarterback early in his career. He is a very cerebral signal-caller that does all the little things well.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: KSHogg on February 08, 2012, 12:33:02 PM
I just now noticed Rivals analysis of Brandon Allen
 
Most Impressive: His accuracy is as good as it gets
        Allen has excellent touch
          He also sees the whole field and does not lock in on just one receiver
He is a very cerebral signal-caller that does all the little things well.

 :thumbup:  BMFP says Fuck all you 'expert rankers'!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: big_pig on February 08, 2012, 12:36:24 PM
He is a very cerebral signal-caller that does all the little things well.


That's a Petrino wetdream right there
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 08, 2012, 01:25:43 PM
I just now noticed Rivals analysis of Brandon Allen

SCOUTING REPORT ON BRANDON ALLEN

On the Hoof: His most prominent feature is his muscular powerbase and legs. His upper body is still a bit thin. He is not the tallest quarterback, but is taller than 6-1.

Needs Improvement: Add some upper-body strength. He is so accurate that he sometimes tries to force the ball into very tight spaces that most quarterbacks would never try. At the next level the defenders are quicker to react to the ball.

Most Impressive: His accuracy is as good as it gets for a quarterback coming out of high school. Allen has excellent touch and puts enough air under his fades that receivers can always make a play on the ball. He also sees the whole field and does not lock in on just one receiver. He can buy time in the pocket.

Conclusion: All quarterbacks should redshirt as they learn the offense. But I would not be surprised if he gets some looks as the backup quarterback early in his career. He is a very cerebral signal-caller that does all the little things well.

And that made him a 4*?  That's the whole thing with Rivals.  "His accuracy is as good as it gets for a quarterback coming out of high school." But he's only a 4*?  What more do they want from a pocket passer? 2 of the "pro-style" QB's ahead of him in 2010 were specifically referenced as runners.  None of them had glowing remarks on accuracy except for the #1 guy, who does a nice job with accuracy on the run (pocket QB rankings?).  Meanwhile, Allen isn't as good.  Perfectly consistent! 

I'm not worried about him or anything, but their rankings aren't consistent with their own scouting reports. It's asinine.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hoggadore on February 08, 2012, 02:25:21 PM
And that made him a 4*?  That's the whole thing with Rivals.  "His accuracy is as good as it gets for a quarterback coming out of high school." But he's only a 4*?  What more do they want from a pocket passer? 2 of the "pro-style" QB's ahead of him in 2010 were specifically referenced as runners.  None of them had glowing remarks on accuracy except for the #1 guy, who does a nice job with accuracy on the run (pocket QB rankings?).  Meanwhile, Allen isn't as good.  Perfectly consistent! 

I'm not worried about him or anything, but their rankings aren't consistent with their own scouting reports. It's asinine.

Size and arm strength.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 08, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
Size and arm strength.

That didn't keep the #1 guy from being rated #1. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 08, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
And that made him a 4*?  That's the whole thing with Rivals.  "His accuracy is as good as it gets for a quarterback coming out of high school." But he's only a 4*?  What more do they want from a pocket passer? 2 of the "pro-style" QB's ahead of him in 2010 were specifically referenced as runners.  None of them had glowing remarks on accuracy except for the #1 guy, who does a nice job with accuracy on the run (pocket QB rankings?).  Meanwhile, Allen isn't as good.  Perfectly consistent! 

I'm not worried about him or anything, but their rankings aren't consistent with their own scouting reports. It's asinine.

All that needs to be known about Brandon Allen is what BMFP and GM said about him at the event where they discussed to new recruits last year. They basically said that he was perfectly molded for the Petrino system. That if they could go into a computer program and custom build a QB for this system he would be it. GM said it was just a coincidence that the perfect QB for our system just happened to live there.

I have a feeling it was known for several years that he was all Hog so no one bother to recruit him, offer him, or evaluate him, he didn't bother to go to many camps or combines. If he had, he would have easily been hyped like Tebow and Mustain were I'm sure. 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Count Porkula on February 08, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
 :stunned:

@DorialGB5 @Ascolese11 Hey DGB.. Vincenzo is gonna smack you in the mouth if you ever step foot on the field against us.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: jsimp on February 08, 2012, 03:13:23 PM
:stunned:

@DorialGB5 @Ascolese11 Hey DGB.. Vincenzo is gonna smack you in the mouth if you ever step foot on the field against us.

 realstunned  :maundoed:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 08, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
Who tweeted that?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Sliver72 on February 08, 2012, 03:28:02 PM
:stunned:

@DorialGB5 @Ascolese11 Hey DGB.. Vincenzo is gonna smack you in the mouth if you ever step foot on the field against us.
Forget CSU and Wyoming...these fuckers are itching to turn THIS into a border war. Whoever is tweeting this shit needs to make sure there's money in the bank first.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Rob on February 08, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
Forget CSU and Wyoming...these fuckers are itching to turn THIS into a border war. Whoever is tweeting this shit needs to make sure there's money in the bank first.

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Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 08, 2012, 03:29:46 PM
Forget CSU and Wyoming...these fuckers are itching to turn THIS into a border war. Whoever is tweeting this shit needs to make sure there's money in the bank first.

Either way, that's funny shit right thur.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 08, 2012, 03:30:12 PM
Forget CSU and Wyoming...these frickers are itching to turn THIS into a border war. Whoever is tweeting this aMm needs to make sure there's money in the bank first.

There's a pretty fair chance we will never face Mizzou while Da Gay Boi is there...  :-\
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 08, 2012, 04:13:37 PM
All that needs to be known about Brandon Allen is what BMFP and GM said about him at the event where they discussed to new recruits last year. They basically said that he was perfectly molded for the Petrino system. That if they could go into a computer program and custom build a QB for this system he would be it. GM said it was just a coincidence that the perfect QB for our system just happened to live there.

I have a feeling it was known for several years that he was all Hog so no one bother to recruit him, offer him, or evaluate him, he didn't bother to go to many camps or combines. If he had, he would have easily been hyped like Tebow and Mustain were I'm sure.

I know we offered Allen's brother recently - is he looking like he's in the same ballpark potential-wise?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BigDavis on February 08, 2012, 04:23:36 PM
I know we offered Allen's brother recently - is he looking like he's in the same ballpark potential-wise?

Yes. The only knock I've heard is that he's not as tall. But hell he's probably not finished growing.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Jose Papoopoo on February 08, 2012, 04:47:40 PM
Yes. The only knock I've heard is that he's not as tall. But Starkville he's probably not finished growing.

He's listed as 6'2 on rivals. I think that's about the same size as Brandon right?? I've heard people say they think he may be better than Brandon, but i'm not sure how you can compare at this point.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: hoggadore on February 08, 2012, 04:49:19 PM
That didn't keep the #1 guy from being rated #1.

If you're talking about Driskel as the #1, Rivals has him listed at "Blue Chip" arm strength compared to Allen's "Division 1."  He's also listed as taller and faster.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 08, 2012, 05:26:14 PM
He's listed as 6'2 on rivals. I think that's about the same size as Brandon right?? I've heard people say they think he may be better than Brandon, but i'm not sure how you can compare at this point.

I would say he is about the same size as Brandon. He doesn't have the ability to run like Brandon, but I saw him make some Mallett-esque passes in Fayetteville's playoff games.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tanny Bogus on February 11, 2012, 04:02:58 PM
Looks like fried sushi would have helped with dgb.
Isn't that what they serve at the Catfish Hole #3?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on February 11, 2012, 04:05:51 PM
Isn't that what they serve at the Catfish Hole #3?

Damn, to think, all they had to do was throw some rice in with the catfish before it was battered and we'd have had the top WR in the country.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: littlerayofsunshine on February 11, 2012, 04:28:20 PM
Yes. The only knock I've heard is that he's not as tall. But hell he's probably not finished growing.

It's not really a knock I don't guess, but I've heard a lot lately that Austin has a real good shot to go in the first 2 or 3 rounds of the MLB draft.  Not sure if this is true, because I really don't follow high school baseball to any real degree.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on February 11, 2012, 04:42:35 PM
Austin is not as good yet but he is still pretty damn good.  When Brandon plays you will see why Bobby Allen was retained
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 11, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
Davonte Neal is down to three schools: Notre Dame, Arkansas, and North Carolina.  From what I've read, it appears he is headed to Notre Dame.  He announces his decision February 21st.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Das Uberschwein on February 11, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Davonte Neal is down to three schools: Notre Dame, Arkansas, and North Carolina.  From what I've read, it appears he is headed to Notre Dame.  He announces his decision February 21st.

I remember reading that getting a quality education was very important to both he and his father; hard for us to compete with either of those schools in that regard.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: littlerayofsunshine on February 11, 2012, 06:39:23 PM
I remember reading that getting a quality education was very important to both he and his father; hard for us to compete with either of those schools in that regard.

I hear we have a program in kinesiology that is lights out.
Title: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: cotte on February 12, 2012, 10:41:44 AM
i know a lot of people with degrees, undergrad, masters, and even some phd's and the majority are fucking idiots outside of their little area of specialty. 

i know a shit load more about research, statistics, experiments, emperical data, and publishing in academic journals than you do.  the results have more to do with how you set up the study than what you observed and reported.  any study can be twisted to show pretty much whatever you want it to show. 

all of that to say i don't give a fuck what your source says because it not any more credible than the national enquirer.

did the guy(s) who wrote that horse shit ever think that the rankings of the players are directly correlated and heavily influenced based off of who offered?  maybe they got it backwards and winning programs offering recruits a scholly is more directly correlated to high rankings than the other way around.  recruiting matters, recruiting rankings, not near as much.  i'm not sure boise state has ever sniffed the top 70 in recruiting rankings, how does the paper explain their success? 

don't answer that, I'm tired of seeing teh woopussy having to endure such pain and agony from reading dumbassery.  hearing of a fellow woopigga going blind because he stabbed himself in the eyes with a fork to escape the dumbassery that I helped enable would make me feel bad.

"I know a shit load more about publishing in academic journals than you do."

:maundoed:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Arkansas Proud on February 13, 2012, 11:48:35 AM
Austin is not as good yet but he is still pretty damn good.  When Brandon plays you will see why Bobby Allen was retained

I've heard this lately from a lot of people.  The only time I've seen him practice it seemed like he didn't have near the arm strength as Tyler or Brandon Mitchell.  But he should know the offense by his 3rd or 4th year, when he'll be playing.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogTat on February 14, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
Davonte Neal is down to three schools: Notre Dame, Arkansas, and North Carolina.  From what I've read, it appears he is headed to Notre Dame.  He announces his decision February 21st.

Better get Ducky on the Boob-Phone!
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: oddi on February 17, 2012, 12:00:12 PM
Unpossible. He just won the National Independence Championship.

This guy is coming for him.

(http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/guido12jk8.jpg)

This guy is coming to a local watering hole near you.

I know cotte and hogggdadi have ordered their shirts.

Ascolese has got to be fired up.


Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 21, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
So, one of the last guys we are considering in our class is Davonte Neal.  The top athlete in this class and the #8 overall prospect.  He's a Joe Adams kind of guy in kick off returns, and as a receiver, but he's willing to play corner too. 

Anyway, Neal had his signing day ceremony this morning on live TV at his old elementary school.  They had a ceremony and had 600 kids waiting for him.  He no showed.  The principal sent the kids back to their classes and they were all crying.   :D

I'd still love to have him.  He'd be a hell of a player for us.  Of course, he's most likely going to Notre Dame, or Arizona, but we're also in his final four along with North Carolina. 

If we don't get Neal, McKale McKaye (6'6" receiver from Louisville with a 41" vertical) may be our last signee.  McKaye is a 3* player in basketball and football (he wants to play both in college). 
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on February 23, 2012, 07:44:58 PM
So, one of the last guys we are considering in our class is Davonte Neal.  The top athlete in this class and the #8 overall prospect.  He's a Joe Adams kind of guy in kick off returns, and as a receiver, but he's willing to play corner too. 

Anyway, Neal had his signing day ceremony this morning on live TV at his old elementary school.  They had a ceremony and had 600 kids waiting for him.  He no showed.  The principal sent the kids back to their classes and they were all crying.   :D

I'd still love to have him.  He'd be a Starkville of a player for us.  Of course, he's most likely going to Notre Dame, or Arizona, but we're also in his final four along with North Carolina. 

If we don't get Neal, McKale McKaye (6'6" receiver from Louisville with a 41" vertical) may be our last signee.  McKaye is a 3* player in basketball and football (he wants to play both in college).

Davonte Neal is dead to me.  Good luck under the Golden Dome, idiot.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: BEvERage on March 07, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003010148526

saw this on hog data base
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on March 08, 2012, 02:08:43 PM
Saw this on ESPiN.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/40015/hogs-add-late-signee-at-receiver (http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/40015/hogs-add-late-signee-at-receiver)

Arkansas continues to stock up at receiver after losing the record-setting threesome of Joe Adams, Jarius Wright and Greg Childs.

The Hogs have added Mekale McKay of Louisville, Ky., to their 2012 signing class. The 6-foot-6, 195-pound McKay was also a standout basketball player at Moore High School. He's originally from Houston and had been committed to UTEP before changing his mind just before national signing day. He re-opened his recruitment and visited Arkansas and Ole Miss in recent weeks before deciding on the Hogs.

"We are excited to add Mekale to what we feel like is a very fast and athletic class," Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino said. "Mekale is a big, strong receiver with great hands who has an extremely physical style of play. We’ve led the SEC in passing the last three seasons and our goal each year is to accomplish that. Mekale joins a talented group of incoming receivers that combine to bring a number of different strengths to the field."

McKay is the Hogs' 25th signee in the 2012 class and the fifth receiver. He also plans to play basketball at Arkansas.

As a senior in football, he caught 38 passes for 894 yards and 13 touchdowns. He averaged 17 points and 6.4 rebounds in basketball.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on March 08, 2012, 07:58:52 PM
Fuck.



Yeah. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Thin Red Swine on March 09, 2012, 04:44:36 AM
In the fast food world, this would be known as the Mothefuckin' Mamba Combo.

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 09, 2012, 08:16:22 AM
DGB-lite?
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: HogofWar on March 09, 2012, 08:42:34 AM
DGB-lite?

Yeah, all the speed and agility, but without the drama.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on March 09, 2012, 11:45:07 AM



Wait, I thought when we used to steal commitments from UTEP that was considered a bad thing?

Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 09, 2012, 11:47:13 AM


Wait, I thought when we used to steal commitments from UTEP that was considered a bad thing?
Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't screw this up.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on March 09, 2012, 11:52:28 AM
Yeah, all the speed and agility, but without the drama.
The height he has, not sure about the speed and agility. If he had that he wouldn't have been down to us and Ole Miss and wouldn't have committed to UTEP. He's a decent get for this late in the game and you can't teach a kid to be 6'-6", but he's gonna have work to do.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: Law_Hawg on March 09, 2012, 12:00:11 PM



Perusing the quotes following that ESPN article on McKay's signing and I saw this gem:

bigbopper07

Every National Champion in the BCS era had a freshman receiver on their roster. FACT.


Wow.  Now there's a fact for you.  Teams won a BCS championship and also happened to have a freshman receiver somewhere on the roster.  Jesus. 



Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: LashHog on March 09, 2012, 12:05:25 PM


Perusing the quotes following that ESPN article on McKay's signing and I saw this gem:

bigbopper07

Every National Champion in the BCS era had a freshman receiver on their roster. FACT.


Wow.  Now there's a fact for you.  Teams won a BCS championship and also happened to have a freshman receiver somewhere on the roster.  Jesus.
Another FACT: no college has won more BCS Championship games in 2013 than the Arkansas Razorbacks, who also have several freshman WRs coming in.

If that's not a bet-the-farm FACT, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Official 2012 Recruiting Class Thread
Post by: ArkGuy on March 09, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
Anyone know why Arkansas never looked at OT Brandon Hil of Memphis? I happen to know Horton was told about him.  Do we know something Nick Saban doesn't?