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Title: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 11, 2012, 12:51:28 AM
Arkansas just finished in the top 5 for the first time since 1977, when I was 2 years old.

We were told we were just lil' ole Arkansas, and we should be happy just to be competitive.  We were told that with any kind of success, we had to rebuild and endure 4 win seasons.  Goals like the BCS were setting the bar far too high.  Even our lifetime AD and winningest coach told us that we were "9th in potential". An occasional trip to Atlanta to be sodomized by a team that actually belonged there was all we could hope for, they said.

Despite a .500 record, our coach was enough of an asshole he flirted with the likes of LSU and Nebraska trying to get a raise.  He disrespected our players and our fans regularly.  The Springdale kids and Malzahn were belittled and lied to, but so were hosts of others.

When we became dissatisfied, we were called a lunatic fringe.  We were called crazies and wackos and at the very least unrealistic. 

We were told that losing that coach would "set the program back 20 years".

When one of our own was ballsy enough to use the FOIA to discover exactly how bad things were, he was ridiculed, harassed and his yard was destroyed.  Some other good people were trampled as well, but not like Thomas McAfee was.

All we wanted was effort, accountability, and professionalism in our program.

Now we have a new AD, we have one of the top 2 football coaches in America, and we have a top 5 football team.

We were right, and they were wrong.

So fuck you, Chuck Barrett.

Double fuck you, Rick Shaffer.

Frank, I appreciated what you did back in the day, I really do.  But you fucked up the program for 2 decades after you were done coaching, so fuck you, too.

Theresa Prewitt and Sherry Darby, fuck you with the giant black double-headed dildo of shame.

OBVIOUSLY fuck you, Houston.  Fuck your GD golden handcuffs.  Stay outside of our state and live in shame in that hellhole to the East of us. 

Fuck you James Shibest, you Benedict Arnold SOB.  You are dead to us.  The rest of MSM?  Fuck you, too.

Fuck you Otis Kirk for deleting any kind of criticism on your board.

Fuck anyone too insignificant to even remember anymore that helped or enabled the old regime.

We are the 5%, and WE WERE RIGHT.

Thank you to those who made it possible.  Not the douches with the banner, the guys from here.  Thomas McAfee, Eddie Christian, Razorgasm, and everyone that contributed.  Thank Elvis for giving us a place for dissent to occur.  Thanks to the media with the balls to be honest about Nutt.

Thank you Bobby Petrino, for choosing the University of Arkansas.  I don't know why of all of your options that you selected Fayetteville, but you'll never be more appreciated and more staunchly defended.  You can curse as much as you want here, we DGAF.

Thank you to Jeff Long for seeing the light on hiring Petrino, and then busting your ass to enable him to have all of the resources he needs and raising the money to give it to him, and seeing the value of a great coach and locking him down.

We were right, and I never imagined it could feel this fucking good.  The crazy thing is, it's about to get even better. 

Soak it up, bitches.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: notaslibro on January 11, 2012, 01:20:37 AM
I agree with everything you sad.  I would only add this:

The previous coach continued to seek pay raises, even as he decried the market here.  His boss, the AD and former coach, continued to grant them, even as he decried the potential here.  They treated the fans of Arkansas like so many Second Mile participants, and they strove to take codependency to frightening new heights.

Thank you, Thomas.  Thank you, Eddie.  Thank you HFTN.

PS

Thank you Casey, DJ, and everyone else who saw through the BS and was able to transition from the the dark to the light.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Stephen Colboar on January 11, 2012, 01:31:28 AM
WAY TOO FUCKING LONG
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Arkansas Proud on January 11, 2012, 01:33:56 AM
Thank you to the ADG for allowing the 5% ad?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on January 11, 2012, 06:46:29 AM
Very well stated.

Lotsa things to be pissed about, but a whole lot more to look forward to.

Go Hogs
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: KSHogg on January 11, 2012, 06:51:40 AM
What the hell ever happened to Razorgasm? I haven't seen that dude/dudette around here for a while.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogtired on January 11, 2012, 07:05:52 AM
Well sir, I believe you said it very succinctly and I approve of your message
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on January 11, 2012, 07:36:03 AM
One of the many beautiful things about the woopig. You can hold a grudge for fucking ever, and no one is going to tell you that you need to be a bigger person and let it go. If they do, they'll get told to fuck off as well.


ADDENDUM: Quinn Grovey needs a "Fuck You" along with Shibest. His ass is a big reason Hootie was here.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Zoso on January 11, 2012, 08:14:20 AM
I'm just a little teared up....
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Jose Papoopoo on January 11, 2012, 08:29:21 AM
Arkansas just finished in the top 5 for the first time since 1977, when I was 2 years old.

We were told we were just lil' ole Arkansas, and we should be happy just to be competitive.  We were told that with any kind of success, we had to rebuild and endure 4 win seasons.  Goals like the BCS were setting the bar far too high.  Even our lifetime AD and winningest coach told us that we were "9th in potential". An occasional trip to Atlanta to be sodomized by a team that actually belonged there was all we could hope for, they said.

Despite a .500 record, our coach was enough of an asshole he flirted with the likes of LSU and Nebraska trying to get a raise.  He disrespected our players and our fans regularly.  The Springdale kids and Malzahn were belittled and lied to, but so were hosts of others.

When we became dissatisfied, we were called a lunatic fringe.  We were called crazies and wackos and at the very least unrealistic. 

We were told that losing that coach would "set the program back 20 years".

When one of our own was ballsy enough to use the FOIA to discover exactly how bad things were, he was ridiculed, harassed and his yard was destroyed.  Some other good people were trampled as well, but not like Thomas McAfee was.

All we wanted was effort, accountability, and professionalism in our program.

Now we have a new AD, we have one of the top 2 football coaches in America, and we have a top 5 football team.

We were right, and they were wrong.

So frick you, Chuck Barrett.

Double frick you, Rick Shaffer.

Frank, I appreciated what you did back in the day, I really do.  But you fricked up the program for 2 decades after you were done coaching, so frick you, too.

Theresa Prewitt and Sherry Darby, frick you with the giant black double-headed dildo of shame.

OBVIOUSLY frick you, Houston.  frick your GD golden handcuffs.  Stay outside of our state and live in shame in that hellhole to the East of us. 

frick you James Shibest, you Benedict Arnold SOB.  You are dead to us.  The rest of MSM?  frick you, too.

frick you Grit for deleting any kind of criticism on your board.

frick anyone too insignificant to even remember anymore that helped or enabled the old regime.

We are the 5%, and WE WERE RIGHT.

Thank you to those who made it possible.  Not the douches with the banner, the guys from here.  Thomas McAfee, Eddie Christian, Razorgasm, and everyone that contributed.  Thank Elvis for giving us a place for dissent to occur.  Thanks to the media with the balls to be honest about Mr. Golden Parachute.

Thank you Bobby Petrino, for choosing the University of Arkansas.  I don't know why of all of your options that you selected Fayetteville, but you'll never be more appreciated and more staunchly defended.  You can curse as much as you want here, we DGAF.

Thank you to Jeff Long for seeing the light on hiring Petrino, and then busting your ass to enable him to have all of the resources he needs and raising the money to give it to him, and seeing the value of a great coach and locking him down.

We were right, and I never imagined it could feel this fricking good.  The crazy thing is, it's about to get even better. 

Soak it up, bitches.

Very well said. You left out one very important frick you to John White. If not for him, Hootie would have never been hired in the first place.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Joe Swine on January 11, 2012, 09:11:39 AM
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Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: MDEM on January 11, 2012, 09:56:00 AM
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Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Dr. HawgLove on January 11, 2012, 10:05:40 AM
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Where did you find a martian baby?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HogofWar on January 11, 2012, 10:08:43 AM
Thank you Eric Cartman for that rant. :sarcasm:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: big_pig on January 11, 2012, 10:08:52 AM
WAY TO HELP PETRINO FUCK THE SEC, LONG
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: gambler on January 11, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
I used to get so sick of hearing schaffer talk about keeping low expectations. He still does it some. I always thought jfb tried to talk us down with the 8th in potential bullshit. We just needed a good athletic department cleansing. We got that and look at us now. We are who we thought we were.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: MDEM on January 11, 2012, 11:17:28 AM
Where did you find a martian baby?

http://martianbaby.com/

Quote
The Martian baby grows back after it dies.  It respawns from any blood that is left, even if it is a tiny blood molecule floating in the air.   Gross, but amazing.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: jack_beene on January 11, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
Where did you find a martian baby?
Mars?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Ray Zorback on January 11, 2012, 11:25:41 AM
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Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Reo Porkwagon on January 11, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
I enjoyed the Benedict Arnold reference for what it's worth!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 11, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
What the Starkville ever happened to Razorgasm? I haven't seen that dude/dudette around here for a while.

He's in the treehouse, like a lot of folks were that helped do this thing.

I think he and E had a falling out, which is a damn shame.

Sorry about the long post, but the fact it had been 35 years since we finished in the top 5 just got me riled.  As did the fact that I still have to see and hear Chuck Barrett and Rick Schaffer's silly, patronizing asses.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: big_pig on January 11, 2012, 01:15:54 PM
we were the original occupiers
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Fairweather Hog Fan on January 11, 2012, 01:18:58 PM
Glad I could help!  :thumbup:  If laughing at Nutt photoshops is heppin'.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on January 11, 2012, 03:50:42 PM
Thank you SS6 for your questions in Dallas which showed how out of touch Paw Paw was.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Olive Branch Hog on January 11, 2012, 04:13:54 PM
Well, it's fricking year 5 of the BMFP regime. Think about that.

And there have been no flirtations with other jobs or requests for 2 year passes. And the hogs have won 21 football games the last 2 seasons.

I'm feeling good about that.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 11, 2012, 04:28:56 PM
Well, it's fricking year 5 of the BMFP regime. Think about that.

And there have been no flirtations with other jobs or requests for 2 year passes. And the hogs have won 21 football games the last 2 seasons.

I'm feeling good about that.

4 year win totals:

Nutt: 9 - 8 - 6 - 7 = 30

Petrino: 5 - 8 - 10 - 11 = 34

Year 5:

Nutt: 9-5; SEC West Co-Champions of the World; Lost to Minnesota in Music City Bowl

Petrino: Care to make a prediction whether we'll have a better season?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: jdcatty on January 11, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
WAY TOO fricking LONG

Not at all.  There was a lot to say, and he said it succintly.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hognarok on January 11, 2012, 04:54:54 PM
4 year win totals:

Nutt: 9 - 8 - 6 - 7 = 30

Petrino: 5 - 8 - 10 - 11 = 34

Year 5:

Nutt: 9-5; SEC West Co-Champions of the World; Lost to Minnesota in Music City Bowl

Petrino: Care to make a prediction whether we'll have a better season?

Here are the teams that Petrino's Razorbacks have lost to in the past four years:

2008 – USC-e (7-6) Ole Miss (9-4) Miss. St. (4-8) +Florida (13-1) *Alabama (12-2) *Texas (12-1) UK (7-6)
2009 – LSU (9-4) Ole Miss (9-4) +Alabama (14-0) *Florida (13-1) Georgia (8-5)
2010 – +Auburn (14-0) Alabama (10-3) *tOSU (12-1)
2011 – +LSU (13-1) +Alabama (12-1)

*Played in BCS Bowl Game
+Played in National Championship Game

The average record of the opponents they lost to is 11-3 (rounded out from 11.13 Wins - 2.94 Losses)

It has been two years since the Hogs lost to a team that finished the season with fewer than 10 wins and nearly three years since they lost to an opponent who finished with fewer than 9 wins.  With his players and his system fully in place Petrino is not going to lose to a lesser opponent.  From what I've seen and heard this is also reflected in Petrino's Hog teams playing against the spread.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: GolfingHog on January 11, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
Here are the teams that Petrino's Razorbacks have lost to in the past four years:

2008 – USC-e (7-6) Ole Miss (9-4) Miss. St. (4-8) +Florida (13-1) *Alabama (12-2) *Texas (12-1) UK (7-6)
2009 – LSU (9-4) Ole Miss (9-4) +Alabama (14-0) *Florida (13-1) Georgia (8-5)
2010 – +Auburn (14-0) Alabama (10-3) *tOSU (12-1)
2011 – +LSU (13-1) +Alabama (12-1)

*Played in BCS Bowl Game
+Played in National Championship Game

The average record of the opponents they lost to is 11-3 (rounded out from 11.13 Wins - 2.94 Losses)

It has been two years since the Hogs lost to a team that finished the season with fewer than 10 wins and nearly three years since they lost to an opponent who finished with fewer than 9 wins.  With his players and his system fully in place Petrino is not going to lose to a lesser opponent.  From what I've seen and heard this is also reflected in Petrino's Hog teams playing against the spread.

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Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Animal on January 11, 2012, 05:03:44 PM
I think we have come to the part of this journey where we see how much drop off there is when you lose 5 or 6 draft potential seniors in addition to a few others that were key contibutors on this team. There is no doubt of where this staff can take this program but automatically assuming 11+ wins a season is still a might lofty.


I'd like to send a S/O to Orvelle Henry, the original darksider for seeing early on what took a lot of us a few added years of ignorant bliss to discover.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 11, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
WAY TOO FUCKING LONG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X06HoBb2e0
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: wmr on January 11, 2012, 06:00:41 PM
Definitely fuck Chuck Barrett and Rick Schaeffer. 

Fuck everybody who ever defended Nutt.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Cerdo on January 11, 2012, 06:52:58 PM
Fantastic thread starting post.

Arkansas fans have been made to walk a lonely road because we were the first, and still, only fanbase to actually revolt and take BACK our program from the Good Old Boy network.

Penn State fans mealymouthed and drank Kool-Aid while their staff put up substandard performance and swept child abuse under the rug, possibly dooming that program forever.
Texas fans are keeping themselves warm at night to the glow of a Rivals Web page with imaginary championships.

Hog fans fought back once they realized that no one was going to step in - really, it is just another legacy of that hillbilly self reliance that made this state and region what it is.  The rest of America can scorn us, but we know what our own people did.   We don't need the rest of the world's condescending approval.  Frick 'em. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: DirkPiggler on January 11, 2012, 07:14:15 PM
Fuck you too TulsaPerv.  I know you're reading this while pining for the way things used to be. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HogofWar on January 11, 2012, 07:15:17 PM
Fantastic thread starting post.

Arkansas fans have been made to walk a lonely road because we were the first, and still, only fanbase to actually revolt and take BACK our program from the Good Old Boy network.

Penn State fans mealymouthed and drank Kool-Aid while their staff put up substandard performance and swept child abuse under the rug, possibly dooming that program forever.
Texas fans are keeping themselves warm at night to the glow of a Rivals Web page with imaginary championships.

Hog fans fought back once they realized that no one was going to step in - really, it is just another legacy of that hillbilly self reliance that made this state and region what it is.  The rest of America can scorn us, but we know what our own people did.   We don't need the rest of the world's condescending approval.  Frick 'em.

This.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: hogoffate on January 11, 2012, 07:38:51 PM
I think Little Wally Hall deserves a special "fuck you" and all the other Nutt licking media could have one also,

just sayin'
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Boondoggle on January 11, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
Arkansas just finished in the top 5 for the first time since 1977, when I was 2 years old.

We were told we were just lil' ole Arkansas, and we should be happy just to be competitive.  We were told that with any kind of success, we had to rebuild and endure 4 win seasons.  Goals like the BCS were setting the bar far too high.  Even our lifetime AD and winningest coach told us that we were "9th in potential". An occasional trip to Atlanta to be sodomized by a team that actually belonged there was all we could hope for, they said.

Despite a .500 record, our coach was enough of an asshole he flirted with the likes of LSU and Nebraska trying to get a raise.  He disrespected our players and our fans regularly.  The Springdale kids and Malzahn were belittled and lied to, but so were hosts of others.

When we became dissatisfied, we were called a lunatic fringe.  We were called crazies and wackos and at the very least unrealistic. 

We were told that losing that coach would "set the program back 20 years".

When one of our own was ballsy enough to use the FOIA to discover exactly how bad things were, he was ridiculed, harassed and his yard was destroyed.  Some other good people were trampled as well, but not like Thomas McAfee was.

All we wanted was effort, accountability, and professionalism in our program.

Now we have a new AD, we have one of the top 2 football coaches in America, and we have a top 5 football team.

We were right, and they were wrong.

So frick you, Chuck Barrett.

Double frick you, Rick Shaffer.

Frank, I appreciated what you did back in the day, I really do.  But you fricked up the program for 2 decades after you were done coaching, so frick you, too.

Theresa Prewitt and Sherry Darby, frick you with the giant black double-headed dildo of shame.

OBVIOUSLY frick you, Houston.  frick your GD golden handcuffs.  Stay outside of our state and live in shame in that hellhole to the East of us. 

frick you James Shibest, you Benedict Arnold SOB.  You are dead to us.  The rest of MSM?  frick you, too.

frick you Grit for deleting any kind of criticism on your board.

frick anyone too insignificant to even remember anymore that helped or enabled the old regime.

We are the 5%, and WE WERE RIGHT.

Thank you to those who made it possible.  Not the douches with the banner, the guys from here.  Thomas McAfee, Eddie Christian, Razorgasm, and everyone that contributed.  Thank Elvis for giving us a place for dissent to occur.  Thanks to the media with the balls to be honest about Hootie.

Thank you Bobby Petrino, for choosing the University of Arkansas.  I don't know why of all of your options that you selected Fayetteville, but you'll never be more appreciated and more staunchly defended.  You can curse as much as you want here, we DGAF.

Thank you to Jeff Long for seeing the light on hiring Petrino, and then busting your ass to enable him to have all of the resources he needs and raising the money to give it to him, and seeing the value of a great coach and locking him down.

We were right, and I never imagined it could feel this fricking good.  The crazy thing is, it's about to get even better. 

Soak it up, bitches.


I have no problem with the banner. At least it shook things up and started the ball rolling towards getting Nutt and his posse cleared out of Arkansas.

You forget, the situation absolutely required some futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part...and the banner people were just guys to do it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 11, 2012, 08:51:58 PM
Awesome thread.   :thumbup:  Goes great with booze, too.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Big Sausage Pizza on January 11, 2012, 08:53:11 PM
And frick Jim Lindsey.

I'm really not sure where Jim Lindsey falls into this conversation, but either way I just wanted to add him to the frick you list as well. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HighOnHogs on January 11, 2012, 08:56:17 PM
Great post.    It's weird how we went from such disgust and frustrations that helped create our message boards to today where we are all in agreement finally for the most part.   We just couldn't accept that we can't be up there in the top of the SEC.  Now we are.  It does feel good, it feels allsome!

That being said, fuck you mother frickers to hell!
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: UnderHog on January 11, 2012, 10:44:24 PM
An example of their low expectations for the program was the prediction that firing Hootie would set the program back 20 years. It apparently set it back about 35 years.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: ElvisHog on January 11, 2012, 11:10:26 PM
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Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: PorkSaladAnnie on January 12, 2012, 09:07:32 AM
 :bird:
And the hugest non- pleasure ribbed anal Frick You of all to Quinn Grovey, who is responsible for the hiring of HDNutt.
 :bird:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: The Red Death on January 12, 2012, 09:35:38 AM
I would also like to thank myself.  I hated Dale from the beginning and I still do.  And I'm still a dick to all Stepford Fans to this very day.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on January 12, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
WAY TOO FUCKING LONG
(http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/regulars/RalphWiggum3.gif)
Reading is hard!
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on January 12, 2012, 09:46:14 AM
:bird:
And the hugest non- pleasure ribbed anal Frick You of all to Quinn Grovey, who is responsible for the hiring of HDNutt.
 :bird:
One of the many beautiful things about the woopig. You can hold a grudge for fucking ever, and no one is going to tell you that you need to be a bigger person and let it go. If they do, they'll get told to fuck off as well.


ADDENDUM: Quinn Grovey needs a "Fuck You" along with Shibest. His ass is a big reason Hootie was here.



RM
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogtired on January 12, 2012, 10:30:38 AM
Well, it's fricking year 5 of the BMFP regime. Think about that.

And there have been no flirtations with other jobs or requests for 2 year passes. And the hogs have won 21 football games the last 2 seasons.

I'm feeling good about that.

BMFP was going to Tejas no?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Boondoggle on January 12, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
An example of their low expectations for the program was the prediction that firing Hootie would set the program back 20 years. It apparently set it back about 35 years.


You're absolutely fricking right about that -- 1977 -- the last year we finished in the Top 5!!! :borat:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on January 13, 2012, 06:42:11 AM
Fantastic thread starting post.

Arkansas fans have been made to walk a lonely road because we were the first, and still, only fanbase to actually revolt and take BACK our program from the Good Old Boy network.

Penn State fans mealymouthed and drank Kool-Aid while their staff put up substandard performance and swept child abuse under the rug, possibly dooming that program forever.
Texas fans are keeping themselves warm at night to the glow of a Rivals Web page with imaginary championships.

Hog fans fought back once they realized that no one was going to step in - really, it is just another legacy of that hillbilly self reliance that made this state and region what it is.  The rest of America can scorn us, but we know what our own people did.   We don't need the rest of the world's condescending approval.  Frick 'em.

Out-fucking-standing. :thumbup:

Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 13, 2012, 01:27:39 PM
I think Little Wally Hall deserves a special "frick you" and all the other Hootie licking media could have one also,

just sayin'

You got that wrong.  Actually, Wally Hall deserves a special 'thank you' for daring to question the Broyles/Hootie regime in his articles when others in the press were criticizing the fans.  Wally Hall is a bad sports writer and a cornpone, but he did have courage enough to go against others in the Arkansas media.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: JoeBobHog on January 13, 2012, 01:40:26 PM
You got that wrong.  Actually, Wally Hall deserves a special 'thank you' for daring to question the Broyles/Hootie regime in his articles when others in the press were criticizing the fans.  Wally Hall is a bad sports writer and a cornpone, but he did have courage enough to go against others in the Arkansas media.


at the very end, maybe.

he doesn't get a pass from me.



 :notexas:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Splurge on January 13, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
You got that wrong.  Actually, Wally Hall deserves a special 'thank you' for daring to question the Broyles/Hootie regime in his articles when others in the press were criticizing the fans.  Wally Hall is a bad sports writer and a cornpone, but he did have courage enough to go against others in the Arkansas media.

You must be very young.  His lips were sealed until about late 2006 or 2007.  In fact, he defended him on too many occassions.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HogofWar on January 13, 2012, 01:52:06 PM
You must be very young.  His lips were sealed until about late 2006 or 2007.  In fact, he defended him on too many occassions.

The only time I heard him criticize Nutt, was the "Articles on the Coffee Table of Recruits" discussion on the radio. When Malzahn and the Springdale players left, more fans, including myself, were ready for Nutt to go. I think Wally finally jumped off the bandwagon and joined the criticism.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 13, 2012, 01:52:33 PM

at the very end, maybe.

he doesn't get a pass from me.



 :notexas:
Exactly. Wally jumped on once everything was going down and he knew it was safe to do so.

You people know why McAfee did an FOI, right? Because he heard the ADG(yes, that means Wally) had done one and gotten phone records showing the contact between Nutt and Prewett but were too chickenshit to report about it. So McAfee sent an FOI asking for the exact same records the ADG had gotten.

Wally is probably one of the worst because he had facts in his hand that he refused to report on until the 48 page document was released and everything had blown up.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 13, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
You got that wrong.  Actually, Wally Hall deserves a special 'thank you' for daring to question the Broyles/Hootie regime in his articles when others in the press were criticizing the fans.  Wally Hall is a bad sports writer and a cornpone, but he did have courage enough to go against others in the Arkansas media.

I'd like to see some links to columns where Wally (or anyone on his staff at the ADG) showed an ounce of guts to criticize Frank or Nutt at any point prior to the Prewett email.

Wally was all too happy to hop on the ride once FANS had taken some initiative to get the tide turning against Nutt & Broyles, but I don't recall him doing fuck-all on the front end.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on January 13, 2012, 02:03:05 PM
He was a real Wally-Come-Lately.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: MDEM on January 13, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
Exactly. Wally jumped on once everything was going down and he knew it was safe to do so.

You people know why McAfee did an FOI, right? Because he heard the ADG(yes, that means Wally) had done one and gotten phone records showing the contact between Nutt and Prewett but were too chickenshit to report about it. So McAfee sent an FOI asking for the exact same records the ADG had gotten.

Wally is probably one of the worst because he had facts in his hand that he refused to report on until the 48 page document was released and everything had blown up.

This is 100% fact.  McAfee FOI'ed the Dem-Gaz FOI.  That's what he got, and where the 48 page report came from.

So, fuck Wally Hall and his band of ball-less jamokes. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on January 13, 2012, 04:30:46 PM
Well I guess that settles it......................Fuck bandwagon Wally.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: big_pig on January 13, 2012, 05:52:27 PM
He was a real Wally-Come-Lately.

heh
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: clintcommander on January 13, 2012, 06:19:23 PM
He was a real Wally-Come-Lately.

Don't matter how stumpy he is.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 13, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
Well I guess that settles it......................Fuck bandwagon Wally.

So once again, even with Wally, iNOVA comes up short.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Satriale on January 14, 2012, 10:48:50 AM
Don't matter how stumpy he is.
:maundoed:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 14, 2012, 12:39:29 PM
I'd like to see some links to columns where Wally (or anyone on his staff at the ADG) showed an ounce of guts to criticize Frank or Hootie at any point prior to the Prewett email.

Wally was all too happy to hop on the ride once FANS had taken some initiative to get the tide turning against Hootie & Broyles, but I don't recall him doing frick-all on the front end.

You could offer to pay the demo gazette the $2.99 an article fee.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 14, 2012, 12:45:47 PM

at the very end, maybe.

he doesn't get a pass from me.
 :notexas:

Yes, Wally was late in the game, but better than never like the others.  You can't expect a writer for conservative paper to go viral like a message board poster.  You never know if his few, late critiques didn't help tip the wagon.  And I don't recall he criticizing the fans either. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 14, 2012, 01:21:01 PM
You could offer to pay the demo gazette the $2.99 an article fee.

The demo gazette is a greedy corporation.  Greedy corporations already have too much of our money.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 14, 2012, 04:10:05 PM
The demo gazette is a greedy corporation.  Greedy corporations already have too much of our money.

2-3 articles is throwing away good beer money.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Cerdo on January 14, 2012, 04:43:18 PM
Wally helped cover for Nutt and sucked at the teat of the Good Old Boy system for years letting Frank and Jim Lindsey run roughshod over the good of the Program. 

He came very late to the party after the ball was already rolling down the hill, but with his being the only opinion that a huge percentage of our state reads, it was an important step to finally finish kicking down the door.

There were people that spent hours going through those phone records and analzying that data that have never been given proper thanks.... and if I recall, one even lost her job over some of it.  That may be my bad memory though. 

I did nothing more than observe, for the most part, but I am thankful to those folks who took on the status quo.  Masterson probably had about as much impact when it came to starting criticism of the Frank and Nutt circus in the public papers.

I don't bash the 50 people protesting in the parking lot or the banner folks.  I know they didn't have the effect that McAfee did, coming face to face with Nutt and his shyster lawyer and staring him down, but they did have an effect and it all added up.  Every one of those protests, from the guy who made the shirt criticizing Nutt's "accomplishments" to the fans who sarcastically clapped when a QB threw a long incomplete to the Springdale restaurants putting up "The Wrong Coach Left" signs - every one of those things were part of the process of letting that scum sucking predator and grifter Houston Nutt know that he was going to become more of an enemy every day in this state. 

Like I said, the fans of this program began the process of taking it back from the Good Old Boy network.  No other fan base has ever done it.  I think we have a lot to be proud of. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 14, 2012, 05:44:11 PM
2-3 articles is throwing away good beer money.

That $2.99 would be better put towards a new bicycle intertube.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 14, 2012, 09:59:10 PM
You could offer to pay the demo gazette the $2.99 an article fee.

Or you could just back up your own horseshit.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 15, 2012, 08:00:48 AM
Or you could just back up your own horseshit.

Not a reasonable request when demozette articles are not freely accessible.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on January 15, 2012, 09:10:56 AM
I'd like to see some links to columns where Wally (or anyone on his staff at the ADG) showed an ounce of guts to criticize Frank or Hootie at any point prior to the Prewett email.

Wally was all too happy to hop on the ride once FANS had taken some initiative to get the tide turning against Hootie & Broyles, but I don't recall him doing frick-all on the front end.

Wally criticized Nutt plenty before that.

He got real gunshy after he wrote some pretty critical articles and then we went on a winning streak.  This was the "How you like me now?" season.  Nutt called him out on it.  From what I heard Nutt would never really talk to him again after that, and Wally was embarassed he pulled the trigger too soon.

What most of us were upset about was that he didn't make a bigger deal out of the Mustain/Malzahn stuff and that he didn't address it sooner, and there's no argument there.

Aside from minor media like Brandon Marcello at the Traveler and Scott Faldon and a couple of others, none of the major media dared go after him.  The Morning News didn't.  Wally helped in the end with ensuring Nutt got canned and getting the truth out there, so I can't get pissed at him.

That being said, fuck the rest of our media for making a bigger deal out of Petrino saying a couple cuss words on the sideline than Nutt lying and running off 2 of our best players and a coach he made false promises to.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: bakervscarrr on January 15, 2012, 09:55:45 AM
Thank you, Bobby Petrino, for spending every waking and sleeping second thinking about how to beat LSU and Alabama next year, while we as fans break our arms patting ourselves on the back.

You're the coach. You win.  We're the fans. We revel.  That's how it works.

Thank you for recognizing that, you stone-cold cyborg assassin.  That's what got the last guy in trouble more than anything else.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on January 15, 2012, 09:59:38 AM
Wait.  Wally had the phone records and sat on them?  The famous FOI was to the DemoGaz?  For stuff they were sitting on? 

My.  I call bullshit on any defense of Wally, he was an enabler of the worst kind, then kicked Dale only once he figured he was down already.  What a chickenshit.


Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Cerdo on January 15, 2012, 10:44:40 AM
Pretty much, yes, to your question.

The Dem Gaz did an FOI for the info.  They wrote a sketchy article yammering about how puzzling it all seemed but not really going in to any kind of detail for us little people. 

McAfee simply used the same FOI the Dem Gaz had put in and got the same information that they had received.  He looked at it, was bewildered by the craziness of it all, and started to wonder aloud about all these texts and such.  Other people looked at it and started picking up on the stuff - like someone recognizing Donna Bragg's phone number at all the crazy times and putting two and two together. People had been discussing Nutt and her having an affair LONG before the FOI's came out.  Other people noticed the time stamp on stuff like Nutt making calls and texts 5 minutes before kickoff and it kind of bothered reasonable people. 

Other people did FOI's as well;  if I recall, some were even other news organizations.  It is appalling how little reporting anyone ever actually did. 

There were even crazy references to incriminating information on Danny Nutt's computers that none of our media could be bothered to even dig in to.  Many people feel Danny probably put together much of the language in the emails harassing Mustain.  There is a very good poster on here who remarked WEEKS before the emails that Danny was walking around bitching to anyone that would listen about how he hated Mustain and the Springdale kids and Gus.  There were emails LONG after the Interception King one sent to Mustain and his mother harrassing them with anonymous threats and such.  It is a shame that the average football and Hog fan really wants to learn so little of the whole situation, because it really is quite shameful. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 15, 2012, 03:26:57 PM
Wait.  Wally had the phone records and sat on them?  The famous FOI was to the DemoGaz?  For stuff they were sitting on? 

My.  I call bullshit on any defense of Wally, he was an enabler of the worst kind, then kicked Dale only once he figured he was down already.  What a chickenshit.
Yep, this is a quote from the UofA employee that handled the FOI request that lead to the 48 page document....

Quote
Your FOIA request appears to mirror a FOIA request previously sent to the University by Bob Holt of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette.

So the ADG( Bob Holt specifically, but obviously Wally knew about it) had the exact same info before the FOI by McAfee was even submitted.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: UnderHog on January 15, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
Wally criticized Hootie plenty before that.

He got real gunshy after he wrote some pretty critical articles and then we went on a winning streak.  This was the "How you like me now?" season.  Hootie called him out on it.  From what I heard Hootie would never really talk to him again after that, and Wally was embarrassed he pulled the trigger too soon.

What most of us were upset about was that he didn't make a bigger deal out of the Mustain/Malzahn stuff and that he didn't address it sooner, and there's no argument there.

Aside from minor media like Brandon Marcello at the Traveler and Scott Faldon and a couple of others, none of the major media dared go after him.  The Morning News didn't.  Wally helped in the end with ensuring Hootie got canned and getting the truth out there, so I can't get pissed at him.

That being said, frick the rest of our media for making a bigger deal out of Petrino saying a couple cuss words on the sideline than Hootie lying and running off 2 of our best players and a coach he made false promises to.

Bob Caudle ( a non-sports person at the Morning News) went after Hootie early.  But the Stephens interests told him to stop if he intended to remain in their employ.  I think Hootie went to the higher ups whenever criticized.  However, he was more effective at influencing some outlets than others. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 15, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Not a reasonable request when demozette articles are not freely accessible.

Of course you would consider a challenge to back up your horseshit an unreasonable request.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: MDEM on January 16, 2012, 07:07:48 AM
I don't know why anyone would defend Wally Hall on this.  He kicked Nutt on the way out the door, when it was safe, just like he's always done with every coach.

He did it to Hatfield.  He did it to Eddie.  He did it to Nolan.  He did it it Crowe, Ford, and yes, Nutt.

Wally smalls has no balls.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 16, 2012, 07:55:09 AM
I don't know why anyone would defend Wally Hall on this.  He kicked Hootie on the way out the door, when it was safe, just like he's always done with every coach.

He did it to Hatfield.  He did it to Eddie.  He did it to Nolan.  He did it it Crowe, Ford, and yes, Hootie.

Wally smalls has no balls.

Most of you don't have a subscription to the demogette, so you wouldn't have read his articles in that period like I did.  I don't know when you considered nutt already out the door, but here's a reference to wally criticizing nutt and taking shit for it long before he was headed out the door:

http://www.arktimes.com/RockCandy/archives/2007/02/09/nutt-and-wally-go-at-it-and-the-buzz-has-it

Read the reader's posts too.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 16, 2012, 08:09:39 AM
Of course you would consider a challenge to back up your horseshit an unreasonable request.

http://www.footballforum.com/college-football-forum/16562-houston-nutt-calls-radio-show.html

Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Rob on January 16, 2012, 08:23:00 AM
And Wally just sat there...Nutt lovin Smiff suckin cock.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: MDEM on January 16, 2012, 08:34:35 AM
Most of you don't have a subscription to the demogette, so you wouldn't have read his articles in that period like I did.  I don't know when you considered nutt already out the door, but here's a reference to wally criticizing nutt and taking shit for it long before he was headed out the door:

http://www.arktimes.com/RockCandy/archives/2007/02/09/nutt-and-wally-go-at-it-and-the-buzz-has-it

Read the reader's posts too.

Give me a break.  You think I need a subscription to read the Dem-Gaz?  Is this your first day at woopig?

We all read that article when it came out, and we all listened to that radio spot where Wally suddenly had nothing to say when challenged by Nutt.  They both looked like utter fools that day.

Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on January 16, 2012, 08:54:54 AM
I have a subscription.  I remember thinking:  "what does this fucking clown have to do before the paper starts taking him to task?  Not a few words wondering, but taking the program to task?" 

But, this discussion starts with the DemGaz sitting on the phone records after FOI-ing them.  Lets start with that.  It is concrete, an action that can be placed in context to the date.

Any defense of Wally is BS.  He sat on the phone records.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 16, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
Most of you don't have a subscription to the demogette, so you wouldn't have read his articles in that period like I did.  I don't know when you considered nutt already out the door, but here's a reference to wally criticizing nutt and taking shit for it long before he was headed out the door:

http://www.arktimes.com/RockCandy/archives/2007/02/09/nutt-and-wally-go-at-it-and-the-buzz-has-it

Read the reader's posts too.

Nice work. 

You've cited an article and incident that occurred AFTER the Prewett email had circulated...AFTER Wally's own paper had FOI'd Nutt and done nothing...AFTER Williams had transferred...AFTER Malzahn had taken a "promotion" at Tulsa following the Lee re-hire...AFTER Mustain had requested his release for transfer...AFTER Frank had melted down under questioning from fans in Dallas...

Yeah.  Wally was right out there leading the charge with this one.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Southern Yeoman on January 16, 2012, 10:08:46 AM
I’ve always taken the local paper wherever I lived.  I can’t see taking a shit while reading an ipad.  I think the DemGaz is pretty good, but the sports section is pretty bad, mostly because of Wally Hall’s attempt at writing and, I’m sure his “leadership” as sports editor.

I swear, every column of his is like the speaker noise they play over and over to get you to crack during resistance training.  I get confused as to which paper I’m supposed to wipe my ass with.

Yesterday’s absurd similes:

…gone over about as well as a dirty diaper at a debutante ball.

…shot down faster than a one-winged duck over the White River.
 ::)
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on January 16, 2012, 06:03:38 PM
I’ve always taken the local paper wherever I lived.  I can’t see taking a aMm while reading an ipad.  I think the DemGaz is pretty good, but the sports section is pretty bad, mostly because of Wally Hall’s attempt at writing and, I’m sure his “leadership” as sports editor.

I swear, every column of his is like the speaker noise they play over and over to get you to crack during resistance training.  I get confused as to which paper I’m supposed to wipe my ass with.

Yesterday’s absurd similes:

…gone over about as well as a dirty diaper at a debutante ball.


I read those. Cornball is the word I think of. No one thinks Wally's funny except Wally>

…shot down faster than a one-winged duck over the White River.
 ::)
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on January 16, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
Quote feature is being a little bitch tonight.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Tanny Bogus on January 16, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
The only firing that Wally was proposing early was Nolan's back when his daughter was dying. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 17, 2012, 08:42:18 AM
Nice work. 

You've cited an article and incident that occurred AFTER the Prewett email had circulated...AFTER Wally's own paper had FOI'd Hootie and done nothing...AFTER Williams had transferred...AFTER Malzahn had taken a "promotion" at Tulsa following the Lee re-hire...AFTER Mustain had requested his release for transfer...AFTER Frank had melted down under questioning from fans in Dallas...

Yeah.  Wally was right out there leading the charge with this one.

I'll find others, hold your horses.  But was Nutt already out the door, or did he coach another season?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 17, 2012, 09:47:40 AM
I'll find others, hold your horses.  But was Nutt already out the door, or did he coach another season?
Seriously....stfu.

There is one fact here that is proven and all that really matters....he had the info from the FOI and did nothing, until the info was all over the place thanks to the 48 page document. That's it. He had that info, and did nothing about it. So fuck him.

McAfee put it best before any of this even blew up..."If the media won't bring it to the masses, the masses will bring it to the media."

Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 17, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
Seriously....stfu.

There is one fact here that is proven and all that really matters....he had the info from the FOI and did nothing, until the info was all over the place thanks to the 48 page document. That's it. He had that info, and did nothing about it. So frick him.

He had what info?  Raw data, right, not the 48 page document with the analysis?  Given Wally's limited talents in writing sports articles, why would anyone expect him to be able to analyze a FOIA document dump and come to the same conclusions as Mr. McAfee's smarter friend? 

What really matters is the information came out in the form a the 48 page document which ignited a media firestorm condeming McAfee and the fans that opposed Nutt and Wally took the side of McAfee contrary to his peers in the local and national media. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 17, 2012, 11:44:25 AM
He had what info?  Raw data, right, not the 48 page document with the analysis?  Given Wally's limited talents in writing sports articles, why would anyone expect him to be able to analyze a FOIA document dump and come to the same conclusions as Mr. McAfee's smarter friend? 

What really matters is the information came out in the form a the 48 page document which ignited a media firestorm condeming McAfee and the fans that opposed Nutt and Wally took the side of McAfee contrary to his peers in the local and national media.
If he wasn't smart enough to do anything with it, why did his department request it in the first place?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Cove Hog on January 17, 2012, 11:45:46 AM
What really matters is the information came out in the form a the 48 page document which ignited a media firestorm condeming McAfee and the fans that opposed Nutt and Wally took the side of McAfee contrary to just minutes before his peers in the local and national media.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on January 17, 2012, 11:56:46 AM
  I can’t see taking a aMm while reading an ipad. 

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. Course you DO have to have the wireless interwebs to do it.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 17, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
Given Wally's limited talents in writing sports articles, why would anyone expect him to be able to analyze a FOIA document dump and come to the same conclusions as Mr. McAfee's smarter friend?

Given your limited capacity to comprehend reality, why would anyone here expect you to grasp it this time around?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 17, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
If Wally was sucking Nutt's balls like some you imply, then why did Teresa Prewitt write him that long scatching Dec. 6 email mentioned in the 48 page document?  Given the subject matter and as pissed as she seemed, I'd bet Wally wrote a really critical article of Nutt which was before any scandal broke. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 17, 2012, 03:17:12 PM
If Wally was sucking Nutt's balls like some you imply, then why did Teresa Prewitt write him that long scatching Dec. 6 email mentioned in the 48 page document?  Given the subject matter and as pissed as she seemed, I'd bet Wally wrote a really critical article of Nutt which was before any scandal broke.
Because Teresa Prewett is as stupid as you are and thought Wally mattered and/or was critical. You can "bet" all you want, but you can't find an article to back it up.

And like I said before, none of that matters....all that matters is...



There is one fact here that is proven and all that really matters....he had the info from the FOI and did nothing, until the info was all over the place thanks to the 48 page document. That's it. He had that info, and did nothing about it. So fuck him.


Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 17, 2012, 03:25:50 PM
Because Teresa Prewett is as stupid as you are and thought Wally mattered and/or was critical. You can "bet" all you want, but you can't find an article to back it up.

And like I said before, none of that matters....all that matters is...

If Wally's article didn't matter, why was the subject email included in the highly regarded 48 page document? 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 17, 2012, 03:35:03 PM
If Wally's article didn't matter, why was the subject email included in the highly regarded 48 page document?
  :D

I can't ever decide if guys like you are fucking around or truly dumb. But work sucks today so it's fun to keep this going for now to distract me.

His article doesn't matter right now, in this conversation, because it has nothing to do with the fact that he knew what went on between Teresa, Mustain and the Nutts and did nothing about it. Nothing else changes that. So fuck him.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Southern Yeoman on January 17, 2012, 04:40:29 PM
It’ll be interesting to see what Hall plagiarizes out of this stretch of thread.  He gets material off here occasionally.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: big_pig on January 17, 2012, 04:41:26 PM

(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/035/001486_48.jpg)
If Wally was sucking Nutt's balls like some you imply, then why did Teresa Prewitt write him that long scatching Dec. 6 email mentioned in the 48 page document?  Given the subject matter and as pissed as she seemed, I'd bet Wally wrote a really critical article of Nutt which was before any scandal broke. 


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_WyWNFejcUA/TuAJnEWAkKI/AAAAAAAAAWU/H1AHUuFKPd4/s1600/JFK.jpg)
Because Teresa Prewett is as stupid as you are and thought Wally mattered and/or was critical. You can "bet" all you want, but you can't find an article to back it up.

And like I said before, none of that matters...



(http://www.motelmag.com/movies/images/jfk_costner.jpg)
If Wally's article didn't matter, why was the subject email included in the highly regarded 48 page document? 


Quote
(http://chud.com/articles/content_images/17/JFK10.jpg)
That's what you gotta find out, bub.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 17, 2012, 04:42:15 PM
If Wally was sucking Nutt's balls like some you imply, then why did Teresa Prewitt write him that long scatching Dec. 6 email mentioned in the 48 page document?

pfffft.  You suck balls, and people write scathing retorts to you nearly every day.

I can't ever decide if guys like you are fucking around or truly dumb.

Gimme a Frankiln on dumb.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on January 17, 2012, 05:23:20 PM


Outstanding work.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on January 17, 2012, 08:04:41 PM
Yes, Wally was late in the game, but better than never like the others.  You can't expect a writer for conservative paper to go viral like a message board poster.  You never know if his few, late critiques didn't help tip the wagon.  And I don't recall he criticizing the fans either.

This is all pretty simple.  The Demo/Gaz, that paragon of conservative thought (according to you, who is looking at it from a less than middle of the road prism), FOIed the phone records, did nothing with it, and had them long enough for someone to REALIZE they had the records and were sitting on them, doing nothing, to the point they finally FOIED THE FOI-ERS.  What is so difficult about this?

And why are you defending a writer from a hated conservative paper?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on January 17, 2012, 08:57:37 PM
This is all pretty simple.  The Demo/Gaz, that paragon of conservative thought (according to you, who is looking at it from a less than middle of the road prism), FOIed the phone records, did nothing with it, and had them long enough for someone to REALIZE they had the records and were sitting on them, doing nothing, to the point they finally FOIED THE FOI-ERS.  What is so difficult about this?

And why are you defending a writer from a hated conservative paper?

Because when other sports writers were defending Broyles, repeatedly using his name and 'legend' in the same sentence, Hall was slamming his administration.  And for that, i was grateful.  You boys are are a narcissistic bunch to believe your internet bullying got Broyles fired.  In a series of articles in January 2007, hall skewered the UA administration, doing far more damage than Woopig could dream of.  The gazette has thousands more readers than Woopig.  And that is reality.  Or perhaps you all are so arrogant, you believe you create your own reality.  Wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hardpork on January 17, 2012, 09:03:42 PM
The Arkansas Democrat is conservative?
Didn't they endorse Mike Beebe for Govenor?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: big_pig on January 17, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
The Arkansas Democrat is conservative?
Didn't they endorse Mike Beebe for Govenor?

Mike Beebe is a liberal?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 17, 2012, 09:26:48 PM
Because when other sports writers were defending Broyles, repeatedly using his name and 'legend' in the same sentence, Hall was slamming his administration.  And for that, i was grateful.  You boys are are a narcissistic bunch to believe your internet bullying got Broyles fired.  In a series of articles in January 2007, hall skewered the UA administration, doing far more damage than Woopig could dream of.  The gazette has thousands more readers than Woopig.  And that is reality.  Or perhaps you all are so arrogant, you believe you create your own reality.  Wouldn't surprise me.

Links.  Or fuck off.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on January 17, 2012, 10:00:14 PM
You boys are are a narcissistic bunch to believe your internet bullying got Broyles fired.  In a series of articles in January 2007, hall skewered the UA administration, doing far more damage than Woopig could dream of.  The gazette has thousands more readers than Woopig.  And that is reality.  Or perhaps you all are so arrogant, you believe you create your own reality.  Wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah, you're right.  It was Hall.  It had nothing at all to do with any message boarders exposing Paw-Paw as a couple McNuggets shy of a Happy Meal.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on January 18, 2012, 08:33:13 AM
Because when other sports writers were defending Broyles, repeatedly using his name and 'legend' in the same sentence, Hall was slamming his administration.  And for that, i was grateful.  You boys are are a narcissistic bunch to believe your internet bullying got Broyles fired.  In a series of articles in January 2007, hall skewered the UA administration, doing far more damage than Woopig could dream of.  The gazette has thousands more readers than Woopig.  And that is reality.  Or perhaps you all are so arrogant, you believe you create your own reality.  Wouldn't surprise me.

WTF?  When did I say any of that?  Talk about red herrings. 

I'm saying Wally Hall didn't go after Dale when he could have, sat on things until it was safe, THEN went after him.  The FOI series of events proves my point, not yours. 

And talk about an alternate reality...just read some of your own posts in the Politics/Religion thread 'fore you pass that sobriquet onto someone else.   ;)
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Joe Swine on January 18, 2012, 08:40:28 AM
Yeah, you're right.  It was Hall.  It had nothing at all to do with any message boarders exposing Paw-Paw as a couple McNuggets shy of a Happy Meal.

That's the hilarity of this discussion.  Dude is arging with people who didn't read about it in the paper.  They watched it happen.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on January 18, 2012, 08:42:29 AM
That's the hilarity of this discussion.  Dude is arging with people who didn't read about it in the paper.  They watched made it happen.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: PorkSaladAnnie on January 18, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
Wally finally got pissed at the Dale when he read Leatherface's comments in her email saying "we all know he's an idiot".
Late to the party for sure but at least he finally came.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: TC on January 18, 2012, 09:39:07 AM
Wally finally got pissed at the Dale when he read Leatherface's comments in her email saying "we all know he's an idiot".
Late to the party for sure but at least he finally came.

See now that's just gross.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on January 18, 2012, 09:49:03 AM
See now that's just gross.

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Joe Swine on January 18, 2012, 09:49:06 AM


True, but I wanted to include Lash.   :stache:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: LashHog on January 18, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
True, but I wanted to include Lash.   :stache:
  :thumbup: No stache needed...that's the truth. I had very little to do with anything. I think I read through some of the phone records once but I never really did anything meaningful, certainly nothing compared to what a lot of others did.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hogwildpigcrazy on January 18, 2012, 10:03:42 AM
See now that's just gross.


Woopig at it's finest.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on February 04, 2012, 07:48:35 PM
Links.  Or frick off.
I finally had a few minutes to waste on your sorry ass.  From the Arkansas Democrat archives on Wally Hall articles during the turmoil on the hill:

Still plenty of questions surrounding Arkansas
Abstract: Despite the fact this Arkansas Razorbacks football season has turned out much better than most expected, there seems to be an undercurrent of dysfunction. With the team idle for several days, here are some totally subjective opinions, starting at the top: ...
Date: 12/06/2006

Feuding Hogs need to kiss, make up, move on
Abstract: As the comments Mitch Mustain made about Houston Nutt in the book Year of the Dog were made public last week, Sam Olajubutu did exactly what you would expect. He blitzed the quarterback. According to sources, Olajubutu called a team meeting. Coaches were ...
Date: 12/14/2006

Slipping out back door after trumpeted entrance
Abstract: Apparently, the why Gus Malzahn made the move to Tulsa might never be known. The real why, that is. He will take the high road as will Houston Nutt, Frank Broyles and whomever else speaks on the subject. It has been a much-traveled path since Malzahn was ...
Date: 01/16/2007

Integrity of Razorbacks program in question
Abstract: It started early Tuesday morning, long before the second wheel came off. A lady wearing a Razorbacks T-shirt took a moment from her workout with trainer Chuck Siska to say: “I’m sick of everything going on in Fayetteville.” A little later, in a coffee sho ...
Date: 01/17/2007

Stability, some offensive balance a good start
Abstract: Wednesday was the e-mail day from hades. They started at 6:01 in the morning and seemed to come nonstop before, during and after the much-needed damage control news conference. There were some e-mails supportive of Houston Nutt. There were more e-mails su ...
Date: 01/18/2007

Ad simply a reflection of UA fans’ concerns
Abstract: Here’s everything I know about the now infamous ad: It was paid for. That’s all I know. I’m not saying this because ads help pay my salary, which they do for everyone at this newspaper, but to be perfectly honest I didn’t see that much wrong with it. I th ...
Date: 01/19/2007

Love for team behind Razorbacks’ ‘soap opera’
Abstract: There really is no but. Houston Nutt is a good man, father, husband, son and coach. Yes, a coach who has always preferred high-percentage football and always will. Yes, he wants everyone to like him and sometimes tells them what he thinks they want to hea ...
Date: 01/21/2007

These arrows sting
Abstract: The time is upon us once again to chart the standing of prominent Arkansans by launching our customary arrows. Some are up, a few are down and many are just plain stuck. As always, we begin at the top of the power grid. Athletic Director Frank Broyles’ fo ...
Date: 01/22/2007

Unrest continues for weary Razorbacks fans
Abstract: At the Downtown Tip-Off Club luncheon Monday, most of the talk was not about basketball. Guest speaker Marvin Delph, a member of the Triplets, the foundation of Arkansas Razorbacks basketball, was extremely entertaining and informative. He talked passiona ...
Date: 01/23/2007

Arkansas fans clamoring to have voices heard
Abstract: A good friend in the media offered some strong advice Monday. “When reporters are completely and totally sick of a story, that is when the public is most interested.” That appears to be a very true statement where the Arkansas Razorbacks football program ...
Date: 01/24/2007

Fans deserve accountability from university
Abstract: If there was one recurring cry in the recent complaints about the University of Arkansas athletic department, it was that the program belongs to the people and they don’t feel their voices are being heard. There is a great deal of validity to that concern ...
Date: 01/31/2007

Broyles deserves right to decide when to retire
Abstract: It was not surprising that a couple of members of the University of Arkansas board of trustees made statements supporting Frank Broyles after their meeting Thursday. While there was no talk about Broyles or Nutt during that official meeting, they are the ...
Date: 01/30/2007


Now think again, dickhead.  Was it really you and the wilded-eye, Woopiggers that ridded us of Houston Dale Nutt?  To loose Nutt, Broyles had to go.  Think again, fuckhead.  Think good, you weak, cumsucking piece of shit.  Read those headlines, look at the dates, consider the timeline of events surrounding the FIOA.  Did Wally Hall really sit on this story?  I wouldn't doubt that he didn't run with it without going through council if he wasn't stupid like you.

Now, present your argument with the timeline of the Gazette's FIOA and the others FIOA.  Now, how long did Wally really sit on the story?  What part did he play in getting rid of Broyles?  To loose the Nutt, meant loosing Broyles and without Wally's help, we'd still have Broyles and no Petrino. 

Fuck you if you think I should spend a dime accessing these archived articles.  You can prove me wrong if you want to try.




 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: jesus on February 04, 2012, 08:21:47 PM

Yeah, eat that shortstop6!  You and that bunch that FOI'ed Hooot's records didn't have a damn thing to do with getting rid of Hooot.  You bunch of bastards just created a 48 page pile of worthlessness.   

It was all C. Wallace Hall.

Bish!
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HOGGLY WOGGLY on February 04, 2012, 08:31:58 PM
I finally had a few minutes to waste on your sorry ass.  From the Arkansas Democrat archives on Wally Hall articles during the turmoil on the hill:

Now think again, dickhead.  Was it really you and the wilded-eye, Woopiggers that ridded us of Houston Dale Nutt?  To loose Nutt, Broyles had to go.  Think again, fuckhead.  Think good, you weak, cumsucking piece of shit.  Read those headlines, look at the dates, consider the timeline of events surrounding the FIOA.  Did Wally Hall really sit on this story?  I wouldn't doubt that he didn't run with it without going through council if he wasn't stupid like you.

Now, present your argument with the timeline of the Gazette's FIOA and the others FIOA.  Now, how long did Wally really sit on the story?  What part did he play in getting rid of Broyles?  To loose the Nutt, meant loosing Broyles and without Wally's help, we'd still have Broyles and no Petrino. 

Fuck you if you think I should spend a dime accessing these archived articles.  You can prove me wrong if you want to try.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/289opg.jpg)
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: big_pig on February 04, 2012, 10:28:41 PM




Holy crap this was clever.  I have no memory of this.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: wmr on February 04, 2012, 11:16:01 PM
Holy crap this was clever.  I have no memory of this.

Around 2004, I was getting pretty deep into Klonopin, due to having a job that was about 75% air travel and subsequent severe insomnia. 

Several times people responded to emails I had sent them and I would scroll down to read my own words, suggestions for weekend plans and agreements to go to dinner, etc and I would be amazed.  (this was back when people used to email)

I had no recollection of ever sending several of those emails.  I have wondered many times how many dates I made or meetings that I never attended because I scheduled them in a Klonopin haze.

That's as close to the key scene of Fight Club as I have ever felt.  It was like an out of body experience.

 ;D
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: reverendhog on February 05, 2012, 12:58:26 AM
Is this a bad time to bring up the difference between lose and loose?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on February 05, 2012, 07:46:32 AM
Yeah, eat that shortstop6!  You and that bunch that FOI'ed Hooot's records didn't have a damn thing to do with getting rid of Hooot.  You bunch of bastards just created a 48 page pile of worthlessness.   

It was all C. Wallace Hall.

Bish!

YEOWZAH!  I shan't go on WP in a wine haze again.  Of course the heroes who FOI'd Nutt's records and provided that excellent analysis deserves most of the credit and many of the WPers deserve some credit for keeping the heat on.  But that may not have been enough to run off Broyles by himself.  My argument was that Wakky didn't deserve the criticism given here because I recall he wrote a series of articles that weren't flattering to Broyles and the program and soon after that, Broyles was headed to the door.  Not the other way around.

Now seriously, what was the timeline b/w the release of the 48 page document and Wall's 1/17 article listed above?  I don't think it was long.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Buffinator on February 05, 2012, 08:40:21 AM
Is this a bad time to bring up the difference between lose and loose?

They're is never a bad time to correct bad grammer.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: BASS on February 05, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Is this a bad time to bring up the difference between lose and loose?

on a message board it is understood that mispellings, typos, etc. happen and we're just too fucking lazy to go back and correct them.  however, i see this particular fuck up constantly working at a corporate office and it frustrates the piss out of me.  getting repeated "official" emails from senior vp's with this particular fuckup illustrates their intelligence is equivalent to those whose understanding of the rules of english language is below my kindergartener's.  yet somehow these are the best and brightest that could be found to give large sums of money and stock options to in return for their guidance of a multibillion dollar corporation.

probably the same motherfuckers that still root for hooten dale. 
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: shortstop6 on February 05, 2012, 12:35:56 PM
I finally had a few minutes to waste on your sorry ass.  From the Arkansas Democrat archives on Wally Hall articles during the turmoil on the hill:

Still plenty of questions surrounding Arkansas
Abstract: Despite the fact this Arkansas Razorbacks football season has turned out much better than most expected, there seems to be an undercurrent of dysfunction. With the team idle for several days, here are some totally subjective opinions, starting at the top: ...
Date: 12/06/2006

Feuding Hogs need to kiss, make up, move on
Abstract: As the comments Mitch Mustain made about Houston Nutt in the book Year of the Dog were made public last week, Sam Olajubutu did exactly what you would expect. He blitzed the quarterback. According to sources, Olajubutu called a team meeting. Coaches were ...
Date: 12/14/2006

Slipping out back door after trumpeted entrance
Abstract: Apparently, the why Gus Malzahn made the move to Tulsa might never be known. The real why, that is. He will take the high road as will Houston Nutt, Frank Broyles and whomever else speaks on the subject. It has been a much-traveled path since Malzahn was ...
Date: 01/16/2007

Integrity of Razorbacks program in question
Abstract: It started early Tuesday morning, long before the second wheel came off. A lady wearing a Razorbacks T-shirt took a moment from her workout with trainer Chuck Siska to say: “I’m sick of everything going on in Fayetteville.” A little later, in a coffee sho ...
Date: 01/17/2007

Stability, some offensive balance a good start
Abstract: Wednesday was the e-mail day from hades. They started at 6:01 in the morning and seemed to come nonstop before, during and after the much-needed damage control news conference. There were some e-mails supportive of Houston Nutt. There were more e-mails su ...
Date: 01/18/2007

Ad simply a reflection of UA fans’ concerns
Abstract: Here’s everything I know about the now infamous ad: It was paid for. That’s all I know. I’m not saying this because ads help pay my salary, which they do for everyone at this newspaper, but to be perfectly honest I didn’t see that much wrong with it. I th ...
Date: 01/19/2007

Love for team behind Razorbacks’ ‘soap opera’
Abstract: There really is no but. Houston Nutt is a good man, father, husband, son and coach. Yes, a coach who has always preferred high-percentage football and always will. Yes, he wants everyone to like him and sometimes tells them what he thinks they want to hea ...
Date: 01/21/2007

These arrows sting
Abstract: The time is upon us once again to chart the standing of prominent Arkansans by launching our customary arrows. Some are up, a few are down and many are just plain stuck. As always, we begin at the top of the power grid. Athletic Director Frank Broyles’ fo ...
Date: 01/22/2007

Unrest continues for weary Razorbacks fans
Abstract: At the Downtown Tip-Off Club luncheon Monday, most of the talk was not about basketball. Guest speaker Marvin Delph, a member of the Triplets, the foundation of Arkansas Razorbacks basketball, was extremely entertaining and informative. He talked passiona ...
Date: 01/23/2007

Arkansas fans clamoring to have voices heard
Abstract: A good friend in the media offered some strong advice Monday. “When reporters are completely and totally sick of a story, that is when the public is most interested.” That appears to be a very true statement where the Arkansas Razorbacks football program ...
Date: 01/24/2007

Fans deserve accountability from university
Abstract: If there was one recurring cry in the recent complaints about the University of Arkansas athletic department, it was that the program belongs to the people and they don’t feel their voices are being heard. There is a great deal of validity to that concern ...
Date: 01/31/2007

Broyles deserves right to decide when to retire
Abstract: It was not surprising that a couple of members of the University of Arkansas board of trustees made statements supporting Frank Broyles after their meeting Thursday. While there was no talk about Broyles or Nutt during that official meeting, they are the ...
Date: 01/30/2007


Now think again, dickhead.  Was it really you and the wilded-eye, Woopiggers that ridded us of Houston Dale Nutt?  To loose Nutt, Broyles had to go.  Think again, fuckhead.  Think good, you weak, cumsucking piece of shit.  Read those headlines, look at the dates, consider the timeline of events surrounding the FIOA.  Did Wally Hall really sit on this story?  I wouldn't doubt that he didn't run with it without going through council if he wasn't stupid like you.

Now, present your argument with the timeline of the Gazette's FIOA and the others FIOA.  Now, how long did Wally really sit on the story?  What part did he play in getting rid of Broyles?  To loose the Nutt, meant loosing Broyles and without Wally's help, we'd still have Broyles and no Petrino. 

Fuck you if you think I should spend a dime accessing these archived articles.  You can prove me wrong if you want to try.

So, this is your research into how much Wally Hall did to rid us of Nutt & Broyles?  You pull up a list providing the first two sentences of a series of articles, but don't provide the full articles for us to see what Wally actually wrote?  What's in the article about Delph speaking in Little Rock?  One article you posted says Broyles deserves to decide when he'll retire...hardly an attack piece on the administration from what we can see.  Another article appears to trumpet what a good man Nutt is...again, that hardly sounds like an attack from Wally.

You don't need to buy the full article, dipshit.  You don't even need the Dem-Gaz archives.  You can do all the research you need by using the search feature right here on woopig.

Using the search feature, you could have learned that all of the articles you cited came after Williams' request for release from his scholarship.  10 of the 12 came after Malzahn resigned.  10 after Mustain transferred.  7 came after Frank melted down in Dallas.  Hell, Prewett's "Interception King" email was posted on woopig before 8 of these articles were published.  Did Wally wiegh in on the Dallas incident?  Did Wally ever mention the Prewett email?  We'll never know from your "research."

The one Hall column that might support your case is the one you couldn't even borrow the intelligence to provide.  It prompted Nutt to call in and rip into Wally on The Buzz in February '07.  Did you even know that happened?  Hint: there's a thread about it in Classics.

All the hate you can muster for me personally because you don't like what I have to say down in P&R...all the rage and insults...all that spittle flying onto your monitor as you hammer away about things you didn't do and know nothing about will never change the simple fact that you are a fucking idiot without a single original thought in his head or action in his life.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Jeff Spongeworthy on February 05, 2012, 02:06:22 PM
They're is never a bad time to correct bad grammer.

Grammar, even. :deek:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on February 05, 2012, 03:42:16 PM
I finally had a few minutes to waste on your sorry ass.

Finally got chased out of your Occupy DC tent, eh?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on February 05, 2012, 03:56:02 PM
Now think again, dickhead.  Was it really you and the wilded-eye, Woopiggers that ridded us of Houston Dale Nutt?  To loose Nutt, Broyles had to go.  Think again, fuckhead.  Think good, you weak, cumsucking piece of shit.  Read those headlines, look at the dates, consider the timeline of events surrounding the FIOA.  Did Wally Hall really sit on this story?  I wouldn't doubt that he didn't run with it without going through council if he wasn't stupid like you.

Now, present your argument with the timeline of the Gazette's FIOA and the others FIOA.  Now, how long did Wally really sit on the story?  What part did he play in getting rid of Broyles?  To loose the Nutt, meant loosing Broyles and without Wally's help, we'd still have Broyles and no Petrino. 

Fuck you if you think I should spend a dime accessing these archived articles.  You can prove me wrong if you want to try.

FIOA.


Goddam FIOA saw three shit.





Wow.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on February 05, 2012, 04:03:18 PM
All the hate you can muster for me personally because you don't like what I have to say down in P&R...all the rage and insults...all that spittle flying onto your monitor as you hammer away about things you didn't do and know nothing about will never change the simple fact that you are a fucking idiot without a single original thought in his head or action in his life.

Hey, man... he did all that for you at 7:48pm on a Saturday night.  That's commitment.  Or a fucking lonely and pathetic life.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on February 05, 2012, 04:11:48 PM
I thought Wally Hall played a prominent role in terms of attacking Nutt.  I know he had done it before, way back during the "two year pass" days and even in the "O for October" decline, and that when Nutt won again he just let Wally have it.  Wally wasn't consistent at it, he certainly wouldn't pass for a member of the Alabama media but he was far and away Nutt's harshest and most public critic.  I heard Nutt didn't talk to him at all his final season.

Now, was Wally the biggest reason Nutt fell from grace?  Hell no, I mean it couldn't be more obvious.  Ultimately it was on his own ass and the Mustain/Prewitt saga.  However, when someone got the bright idea to use the FOIA to see who Nutt was calling to try to link Nutt directly to those emails it opened up a whole can of worms.  What the Arkansas media were content to sit on some people weren't ,and McAfee did the deed for us and unfortunately took the beating that came afterwards.  The Arkansas media didn't link Nutt to Prewitt via phone that day.  It didn't notice he'd called a Ft Smith reporter several times more than his own wife.  It didn't notice he'd talked to Nevin Shapiro from Miami and boosters at two other universities looking for coaches.  OINKX did all of Hall's investigative reporting for him, and he and a couple of others repeated the benefits.  Give credit where credit is due. Wally didn't impact Nutt's termination at all, really, except ultimately acting as a mouthpiece to further disseminate the info in that document.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Too Big Pig on February 06, 2012, 10:15:26 AM
Grammar, even. :deek:

Apparently jokes often go over your head.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: HogBroyles on February 06, 2012, 10:46:52 AM
I have a subscription.  I remember thinking:  "what does this fricking clown have to do before the paper starts taking him to task?  Not a few words wondering, but taking the program to task?" 

But, this discussion starts with the DemGaz sitting on the phone records after FOI-ing them.  Lets start with that.  It is concrete, an action that can be placed in context to the date.

Any defense of Wally is BS.  He sat on the phone records.
He has to sit on something to reach his desktop.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Southern Yeoman on February 06, 2012, 10:55:09 AM
He has to sit on something to reach his desktop.
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on February 06, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
Because when other sports writers were defending Broyles, repeatedly using his name and 'legend' in the same sentence, Hall was slamming his administration.  And for that, i was grateful.  You boys are are a narcissistic bunch to believe your internet bullying got Broyles fired.  In a series of articles in January 2007, hall skewered the UA administration, doing far more damage than Woopig could dream of.  The gazette has thousands more readers than Woopig.  And that is reality.  Or perhaps you all are so arrogant, you believe you create your own reality.  Wouldn't surprise me.
1. Wally Hall writes his column the way Houston Nutt coached football: Don't take any risks, write to NOT lose instead of to win.
2. Nobody on Woopig had anything to do with the GOBN being taken down. It was the Hogvillians. Errybody knows that. In fact, if you ask any one of 'em, they'll tell you so.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: MDEM on February 06, 2012, 06:50:04 PM
2. Nobody on Woopig had anything to do with the GOBN being taken down. It was the Hogvillians. Errybody knows that. In fact, if you ask any one of 'em, they'll tell you so.

Fuck yeah, plane banners and 30 man marches are what makes things happen.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on February 06, 2012, 06:58:56 PM
Fuck yeah, plane banners and 30 man marches are what makes things happen.
I'm glad someone besides me was paying attention. It would have sucked to miss the televised revolution and all.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: ArkGuy on February 06, 2012, 07:11:08 PM
I think it was death by a thousand cuts for Hootie.  The ground work done by others, whether th actuall FOI or cut constant bitching in general on message boards and call in shows, around the state's watr coolers, coupled with Hootie's own (i) lack of performance on the football field, and (ii) crazy conduct/remarks off it, finally made it impossible for Wally and others to NOT say something.

I don't know what the actual tipping point was and I don't know if anyone accurately can.

I'm just glad it happened.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Hog of the South on February 06, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
Wally's role in Hootie's departure is debatable, but what's not is the PR campaign he conducted as the sports editor of the ADG to persuade the PTB to hire Hootie in the first place.  For this he should never be forgiven.   :bird:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on February 07, 2012, 06:54:36 AM
Read those headlines, look at the dates, consider the timeline of events surrounding the FIOA.  Did Wally Hall really sit on this story?  I wouldn't doubt that he didn't run with it without going through council if he wasn't stupid like you.

Now, present your argument with the timeline of the Gazette's FIOA and the others FIOA.  Now, how long did Wally really sit on the story?  What part did he play in getting rid of Broyles?  To loose the Nutt, meant loosing Broyles and without Wally's help, we'd still have Broyles and no Petrino. 


You don't THINK it was too long, eh?  WTF difference does it make, the actual time?  It is all about intent, and Wally had NO intention of releasing the records, with commentary, even after someone ELSE went after the phone records.  Nope, nosir, fuck you, I ain't releasing them even though it would be the SCOOP of the century for an Arkansas sports writer.

Ever deal with FOI shit?  Ever get hit with an FOI request?  You don't have a lot of time to screw around if you get a request, you have to compile and release.  The paper is under no compulsion to release them, the caretaker is, and the U of A obviously wasn't going to release.  So, it was up to the paper to release a story, or sit on them. 

It should be obvious to anyone that the Gaz had no intention of releasing the records or a story about them.  Lets put this in perspective...Wally was sitting on a set of records that any competent sportswriter could use to destroy a Coach.  It was Arkansas' version of Watergate.  What reporter could possibly NOT do a story about it, and bring down the most famous person in Arkansas?  That should be a journalist's dream story, taking down a big dog, right? 

The only answers I can come up with for not going through the records, gathering up the rather obvious sets of nasty shit Dale did with a public phone, write a scathing story about it and basking in the glow is a reporter's version of extreme hugging, fear of loss of access, cowardice, or all three.  Whatever, no story was forthcoming, no mention, until someone else got a hold of the records, and things began to trickle out about exactly what was in them.  Wally damn sure didn't come up with something due to lack of time.  Not to mention, if there was an intent to release something, the pressure of losing the scoop would have spurred them into getting it out that much faster. 

So, death by a thousand cuts, rather than guillotine, and we suffered through more time with an incompetent wretch at the controls of our program.  Wally sat on the records, had no intention of doing a story on them.  Wally had Dale by the balls, and never squeezed until it was fashionable.  Fuck Wally.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on February 11, 2012, 03:36:17 PM
Wally's role in Hootie's departure is debatable, but what's not is the PR campaign he conducted as the sports editor of the ADG to persuade the PTB to hire Hootie in the first place.  For this he should never be forgiven.   :bird:

Wally helped Broyles to the door of retirement, not get Nutt canned.  Long fired Nutt, thank god.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: iNOVAhog on February 11, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
Read those headlines, look at the dates, consider the timeline of events surrounding the FIOA.  Did Wally Hall really sit on this story?  I wouldn't doubt that he didn't run with it without going through council if he wasn't stupid like you.

Now, present your argument with the timeline of the Gazette's FIOA and the others FIOA.  Now, how long did Wally really sit on the story?  What part did he play in getting rid of Broyles?  To loose the Hootie, meant loosing Broyles and without Wally's help, we'd still have Broyles and no Petrino. 


You don't THINK it was too long, eh?  WTF difference does it make, the actual time?  It is all about intent, and Wally had NO intention of releasing the records, with commentary, even after someone ELSE went after the phone records.  Nope, nosir, frick you, I ain't releasing them even though it would be the SCOOP of the century for an Arkansas sports writer.

Ever deal with FOI aMm?  Ever get hit with an FOI request?  You don't have a lot of time to screw around if you get a request, you have to compile and release.  The paper is under no compulsion to release them, the caretaker is, and the U of A obviously wasn't going to release.  So, it was up to the paper to release a story, or sit on them. 

It should be obvious to anyone that the Gaz had no intention of releasing the records or a story about them.  Lets put this in perspective...Wally was sitting on a set of records that any competent sportswriter could use to destroy a Coach.  It was Arkansas' version of Watergate.  What reporter could possibly NOT do a story about it, and bring down the most famous person in Arkansas?  That should be a journalist's dream story, taking down a big dog, right? 

The only answers I can come up with for not going through the records, gathering up the rather obvious sets of nasty aMm Dale did with a public phone, write a scathing story about it and basking in the glow is a reporter's version of extreme hugging, fear of loss of access, cowardice, or all three.  Whatever, no story was forthcoming, no mention, until someone else got a hold of the records, and things began to trickle out about exactly what was in them.  Wally damn sure didn't come up with something due to lack of time.  Not to mention, if there was an intent to release something, the pressure of losing the scoop would have spurred them into getting it out that much faster. 

So, death by a thousand cuts, rather than guillotine, and we suffered through more time with an incompetent wretch at the controls of our program.  Wally sat on the records, had no intention of doing a story on them.  Wally had Dale by the balls, and never squeezed until it was fashionable.  frick Wally.

Do you mainstream media outlets do investigative journalism anymore?  Not much.  Nevermind, it all worked out perfectly.  If Wally had jumped on the story, assuming he knew what he was actually sitting on, what then?  Would Broyles be forced to fired him?  If so, then what?  Who would have Broyles hired for a head coach?  You see where this is going?  If Wally had not of waited, odds are, no Petrino.  Now go on with your life and be happy.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: JoeBobHog on February 12, 2012, 03:07:56 AM
die in a fucking fire, you faggit.

wally doesn't get credit for shit.


 :notexas:
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Sliver72 on February 12, 2012, 07:45:48 AM
So am I to gather that Wallace is the "accidental savior" of Razorback football? I want to be sure so that I can send him a Christmas card from now on for his deeds of delayed heroism.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: gambler on February 12, 2012, 08:10:02 AM
So am I to gather that Wallace is the "accidental savior" of Razorback football? I want to be sure so that I can send him a Christmas card from now on for his deeds of delayed heroism.
Send him something he needs, a booster seat.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on February 12, 2012, 09:17:12 AM
Wally helped Broyles to the door of retirement

Shortstop6 is actually the one who 'helped Broyles to the door of retirement' at the Dallas alumni dinner.  Yet you curse him while continuing to suck off the elf.










So yeah, you're a fucking idiot.  Go immolate yourself.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on February 12, 2012, 10:12:03 AM
Shortstop6 is actually the one who 'helped Broyles to the door of retirement' at the Dallas alumni dinner.  Yet you curse him while continuing to suck off the elf.










So yeah, you're a fricking idiot.  Go immolate yourself.

Forgot that was him...


NICE.
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: hogslobber on February 12, 2012, 11:36:44 AM
Shortstop6 is actually the one who 'helped Broyles to the door of retirement' at the Dallas alumni dinner.  Yet you curse him while continuing to suck off the elf.










So yeah, you're a fricking idiot.  Go immolate yourself.


Anyone still have that video ?

Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Buffinator on February 12, 2012, 11:56:48 AM
Wait, Shorty did what?
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: WPFM on February 12, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
Anyone still have that video ?
Wait, Shorty did what?

3:50 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hZmM89f1Y
Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Snorts on February 12, 2012, 09:04:30 PM
Do you mainstream media outlets do investigative journalism anymore?  Not much.  Nevermind, it all worked out perfectly.  If Wally had jumped on the story, assuming he knew what he was actually sitting on, what then?  Would Broyles be forced to fired him?  If so, then what?  Who would have Broyles hired for a head coach?  You see where this is going?  If Wally had not of waited, odds are, no Petrino.  Now go on with your life and be happy.

I am laughing my ass off right now at you, happier than most days.

Investigative journalism?  WTF do you think FOIing the phone records was?  It's time to admit that jet fuel can't melt steel beams, DAMN you can't just let this go, can you?

You are crawfishing like a motherfucker.  Our discussion was never about any of those red herrings you just threw up in an effort to distract.  It was about Wally never going after Dale for keeps until he was already down.  You got your ass whipped in that little discussion. 

Title: Re: Here's to the 5%
Post by: Boondoggle on February 13, 2012, 12:38:44 AM
3:50 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-hZmM89f1Y


God damn you, PawPaw.  :bird: