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Title: AC Repair
Post by: Veritas Arkansas on July 11, 2009, 04:05:22 PM
Need a competent AC repairman in NWA to fix a rattling, squeaking AC unit.

Anybody have any recommendations?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: RonaldCarter on July 21, 2020, 08:26:23 AM
I was about to start a new topic but after seeing this thread I had preferred replying here. I have hired  HVAC Houston (https://accompanyhouston.com/) two weeks ago for ac related issues. They had certified and experienced experts that offers all type of ac related services. So, anyone who is looking for an ac repair company they can call them.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Won Nutt Hung Lo on July 21, 2020, 08:33:38 AM
This is going to be fun.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: razorwire on July 21, 2020, 08:35:16 AM
Need a competent AC repairman in NWA to fix a rattling, squeaking AC unit.

Anybody have any recommendations?
Sounds like a job for WD-40 and a couple of bungee cords.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on July 21, 2020, 08:36:54 AM
So you hired them two weeks ago, and as a parting gift they gave you a company email that you used to register on this site. Nice.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on July 21, 2020, 08:41:17 AM
Someone here on the board has an AC biz that I used a few years back and they were fantastic. Can’t think of the users name
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 09:30:25 AM
I was about to start a new topic but after seeing this thread I had preferred replying here. I have hired  HVAC Houston two weeks ago for ac related issues. They had certified and experienced experts that offers all type of ac related services. So, anyone who is looking for an ac repair company they can call them.

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Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 09:31:56 AM
Someone here on the board has an AC biz that I used a few years back and they were fantastic. Can’t think of the users name

Maybe gibraltar - he's helped out quite few on here

If anyone needs commercial AC repairs in any Texas metro area, let me know. You won't get a cheap price but you will get top notch service.
Title: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 09:55:27 AM
Maybe gibraltar - he's helped out quite few on here

If anyone needs commercial AC repairs in any Texas metro area, let me know. You won't get a cheap price but you will get top notch service.

I might be in the market.  We have 3 AC units and the largest one is like 20+ years old.  Having a $700-900 electric bill has caused us to think maybe it needs replacing.  Also the thermostats aren’t likely reading correctly in some rooms so we have them all adjusted wonky like 83 here, 76 there and one that reads 28F/0C all the time so it doesn’t ever kick on.

I see stuff online for like $7000 to replace one, is that a reasonable price?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 10:05:25 AM
If you are replacing all 3 then prepare thy butthole for a $25K or more fucking.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 10:18:23 AM
If you are replacing all 3 then prepare thy butthole for a $25K or more fucking.

Just the one largest one likely. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 10:31:45 AM
I might be in the market.  We have 3 AC units and the largest one is like 20+ years old.  Having a $700-900 electric bill has caused us to think maybe it needs replacing.  Also the thermostats aren’t likely reading correctly in some rooms so we have them all adjusted wonky like 83 here, 76 there and one that reads 28F/0C all the time so it doesn’t ever kick on.

I see stuff online for like $7000 to replace one, is that a reasonable price?

We do commercial work so our rates are twice what you would typically pay for residential service. I don't even call our guys for service at our house - I use these guys https://www.colonyac.com/

If you could get a good company and a good unit, $7k seems like a very reasonable price but I am guessing that is for a builders grade unit and the perfect install situation. You are probably going to be quoted closer to $10k per.

Materials cost for the 4 ton 16 Seer Trane split system we put in a few years back at our place was about $3000. I paid one of our  techs $1000 cash and helped him with the install.




Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 10:37:40 AM
I might be in the market.  We have 3 AC units and the largest one is like 20+ years old.  Having a $700-900 electric bill has caused us to think maybe it needs replacing.  Also the thermostats aren’t likely reading correctly in some rooms so we have them all adjusted wonky like 83 here, 76 there and one that reads 28F/0C all the time so it doesn’t ever kick on.

I see stuff online for like $7000 to replace one, is that a reasonable price?

If you have old thermostats, replacing them is easy and cheap. I got a honeywell wifi one for around $60 that, once it was setup, has been rock solid.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 11:17:33 AM
If you have old thermostats, replacing them is easy and cheap. I got a honeywell wifi one for around $60 that, once it was setup, has been rock solid.

I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 11:30:48 AM
I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd

If you have a true zoned setup then you may have bad damper motors.  that would explain why the house doesn't cool properly.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 11:35:40 AM
If you have a true zoned setup then you may have bad damper motors.  that would explain why the house doesn't cool properly.

Maybe so.  Might call someone and get them out to have a look and get a quote.  The current big unit is like 13 seer or whatever so it is old and likely not efficient either.

Need to get a security company out too and figure out why the cameras done seem to have power
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 11:39:20 AM
I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd

All that shit is over my head. Gibraltar is still around but probably busy as shit with the heat of the summer. Maybe he can offer some advice.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 11:46:18 AM
Maybe so.  Might call someone and get them out to have a look and get a quote.  The current big unit is like 13 seer or whatever so it is old and likely not efficient either.

Need to get a security company out too and figure out why the cameras done seem to have power

The owners used to be our neighbors -

http://www.cforceinc.com/
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 11:48:52 AM
One quick note: If you have 3 units and 3 thermostats then you have zero zones.

My two story house is zoned on the first floor.  The master bedroom/bath has a thermostat and the rest of the downstairs living area has a thermostat.  Basically the downstair unit kicks on depending on which thermostat is calling for cooling/heating.  The ducts that lead to those areas have damper motors in them that open the ducts which allow the air to flow.

We have had a historical problem with one of the dampers going bad for the main living area.  When that duct does not open the other ducts/registers downstairs manage to compensate and keep the living room comfortable.  When that motor is working the living room turns into an icebox.  That is the effect a bad motor can have on the balance of an area from a cooling/heating perspective.
Title: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 11:57:04 AM
One quick note: If you have 3 units and 3 thermostats then you have zero zones.

My two story house is zoned on the first floor.  The master bedroom/bath has a thermostat and the rest of the downstairs living area has a thermostat.  Basically the downstair unit kicks on depending on which thermostat is calling for cooling/heating.  The ducts that lead to those areas have damper motors in them that open the ducts which allow the air to flow.

We have had a historical problem with one of the dampers going bad for the main living area.  When that duct does not open the other ducts/registers downstairs manage to compensate and keep the living room comfortable.  When that motor is working the living room turns into an icebox.  That is the effect a bad motor can have on the balance of an area from a cooling/heating perspective.

We have a ton of thermostats.  Downstairs: Family room, kitchen, office, M bedroom, M bath (the 28F one).  Upstairs:movie room, play room, 3 upstairs bedrooms all have one too.  Maybe more that I’m missing.

The closet in the M bath that I use is somehow tied into the thermostat in the office and gets cold as FUCK.  Like, an ice box.  Much colder than the office but it is controlled by that thermostat it seems. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2020, 06:13:54 PM
Just the one largest one likely.
7k is becoming a the entry level
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2020, 06:15:33 PM
I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd
You know that 7k...say goodbye to that shit
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 06:40:36 PM
You know that 7k...say goodbye to that shit


So like 10k?  Just a ballpark figure is all I'm looking for.  I plan to be in this house for 20 years or more, so replacing it with a new, higher efficiency one should be a good investment.  Will give peace of mind and should save some money on electric bills each month?



Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
We have a ton of thermostats.  Downstairs: Family room, kitchen, office, M bedroom, M bath (the 28F one).  Upstairs:movie room, play room, 3 upstairs bedrooms all have one too.  Maybe more that I’m missing.

The closet in the M bath that I use is somehow tied into the thermostat in the office and gets cold as FUCK.  Like, an ice box.  Much colder than the office but it is controlled by that thermostat it seems. 

Jesus.  What did you buy?  I picture a mansion made out of double wides. Sure you're not counting window units?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2020, 07:26:12 PM

So like 10k?  Just a ballpark figure is all I'm looking for.  I plan to be in this house for 20 years or more, so replacing it with a new, higher efficiency one should be a good investment.  Will give peace of mind and should save some money on electric bills each month?
Really depends on how in-depth the zone system gets in terms of problems. Mostly they are a shit show if it's all that old. In general there isn't nearly enough information to give a "guy on the internet said" kind of price.

A lot of these dealers are going to recommend the high end inverter system with the variable speed indoor for zoned equipment...that's 15k and up. And then they will also sell you a new zone controller and dampers...

I would absolutely find you a company that knows zones. Personally I'm anti zone...I'd rather size and design the system right instead of supposedly saving on energy costs on zones that break often.

If you are truly spending 800 a month on electric...you need to run to a good dealer. Surely someone can find out why. You might have strip heat coming in with the AC for example...it happens.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 07:35:32 PM
Jesus.  What did you buy?  I picture a mansion made out of double wides. Sure you're not counting window units?


It looks just like the William J Clinton Library...


3 AC units (outside ones) and a shitload of thermostats/zones it seems.  I looked at the inspection report and it does list that some/a few of the zone dampers or whatever aren't working.  That for sure needs to get fixed and I'm thinking the big unit that serves most of the downstairs should get replaced (20+ years old).  It is like 13 Seer which apparently is not very good.


Houses are confusing.  I had hot water issues and couldn't figure out WTF was going on as part of the house had wonderful, instant hot water (had one of those recirc things) and other parts were barely warm.  Thought I only had two water heaters, found out there was a third one hiding that had a temperature limiter that was somehow tied into a switch in the master bath for 'safety'.  Took like a week of troubleshooting to figure that shit out.  Guess they had kids or old people are something and didn't want actual hot water.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 08:06:56 PM
It’s easy to replace dampers. YouTube it. Honeywell makes the dampers.

We have two hot water tanks and one went out a few years ago. Didn’t realize it until the second one went out.

Owning big homes can be a pita.  We still own our first home; 3 bed/2 bath, 2100 sq ft. House is awesome. So little to go wrong. The AC unit in it is 20 years old and still performs great.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 08:13:56 PM
Will have to look.  The issue is that I have no idea where all of them are or which ones are working.  I might as well just let the AC guy do it unless it is super obvious.  I don't even know where to control them. Still trying to figure things out.  There is one secret room and I'm convinced there are more.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: porksamich on July 22, 2020, 10:40:17 PM
I just had my entire unit replaced for $4500. That’s the inside unit with gas furnace, 4 ton outside unit, and new thermostat. Y’all getting raped.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on July 23, 2020, 09:37:49 AM
my old house had a dual zone system - upstairs and downstairs running off one unit.  the dampers in the zone system are designed to operate off of each thermostat.  the thermostats kick on and call the system to divert air/heat to that area, thus flipping the dampers.  I had issues over the years where the dampers were not working correctly, had many a service calls where the zones had to be fixed.  i don't reccommend a zone system.  if you've got it, you've got it. 

hrw, i can't imagine a house with that many zones.  even with 3 units you may not have large enough units to push the amount of air you need, therefore your systems are running 24/7, resulting in an $800 electric bill.  the only way you can fix the # of zones would be to have all of the duct work redone and the zone dampers removed.  I'd think the optimal thing for you would be to scrap the zone/damper system and have 3 units each running a separate area of your house.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 23, 2020, 09:45:38 AM
I’ll call someone and have them have a look and see what’s the best thing to do within a budget of course
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 23, 2020, 10:28:11 AM
I just had my entire unit replaced for $4500. That’s the inside unit with gas furnace, 4 ton outside unit, and new thermostat. Y’all getting raped.

If you have a single story home with good attic access and no need for a new line set or new duct work and find a small shop with low overhead, I could see that price.

Dealer cost for our 4 ton 16 seer Trane split system and accouterments such as plenum box, dampers, new pad etc was $3000. Any shop is going to mark that up about 25-40% so that's +/- $3800.

Then it is just a matter of labor - probably a 10-16 hours between 2 guys so, assuming a low $40/hr rate, that's $500.   

Sales tax is going to add at least another $275-300 even the installer is paying it on their cost.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: porksamich on July 23, 2020, 12:20:14 PM
If you have a single story home with good attic access and no need for a new line set or new duct work and find a small shop with low overhead, I could see that price.

Dealer cost for our 4 ton 16 seer Trane split system and accouterments such as plenum box, dampers, new pad etc was $3000. Any shop is going to mark that up about 25-40% so that's +/- $3800.

Then it is just a matter of labor - probably a 10-16 hours between 2 guys so, assuming a low $40/hr rate, that's $500.   

Sales tax is going to add at least another $275-300 even the installer is paying it on their cost.

You nailed it. Single story, existing line sets, no new duct work. Inside unit easily located in hallway. 9 hr job.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: TexZilla on July 25, 2020, 06:43:52 AM
I’ll call someone and have them have a look and see what’s the best thing to do within a budget of course

In Texas you have to look at more than just an modern efficient AC system.  You should look at your insulation, radiant barriers, garage door insulation, roof venting and ridge vents, clear soffit vents, ductwork leaks, windows.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 25, 2020, 09:05:43 AM
In Texas you have to look at more than just an modern efficient AC system.  You should look at your insulation, radiant barriers, garage door insulation, roof venting and ridge vents, clear soffit vents, ductwork leaks, windows.

Fortunately, the person that has this place built seems to have cared about those things.  Unfortunately, I don’t know shit about AC and the attics are a maze so I’ll just have someone come and give it a full inspection and bite the bullet
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 25, 2020, 09:14:04 AM
Just curious, but what did the home inspector say when you went through the buying process?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 25, 2020, 10:08:38 AM
Just curious, but what did the home inspector say when you went through the buying process?

Said the units were in good repair but that the main unit is old and likely to need replacing soon.  He said he couldn’t tell if all the zone things were working, but suspected some were not.  The vents and insulation and everything were good. 

We did switch electric companies already and it seems to have made a difference...3-4 cents x 5-7000kW adds up. 

That makes things a little less urgent
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on August 13, 2020, 07:48:01 PM
I just recently moved into a house that I’m having a little ac problem with. I have two floors and a separate system for each. Most of the house stays very comfortable, but two rooms upstairs stay very warm and one room downstairs stays warm. I had a guy come look at it and he said the duct work was not screwed together and whatever adhesive wrap they used to wrap the joints has broken down and they are leaking. Everything with the equipment seems to be functioning properly. He is wanting to take all of the wrapped insulation off the ductwork, screw all the joints, tape the joints, re wrap the ducts, and add a return air exchange to aid with air flow.  The ducts upstairs are in the attic, downstairs ducts are in the crawl space that ranges from 60 inches to 30 inches. All this for the tidy sum of $15,000. Was wondering if this seems reasonable.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on August 13, 2020, 09:03:34 PM
I just recently moved into a house that I’m having a little ac problem with. I have two floors and a separate system for each. Most of the house stays very comfortable, but two rooms upstairs stay very warm and one room downstairs stays warm. I had a guy come look at it and he said the duct work was not screwed together and whatever adhesive wrap they used to wrap the joints has broken down and they are leaking. Everything with the equipment seems to be functioning properly. He is wanting to take all of the wrapped insulation off the ductwork, screw all the joints, tape the joints, re wrap the ducts, and add a return air exchange to aid with air flow.  The ducts upstairs are in the attic, downstairs ducts are in the crawl space that ranges from 60 inches to 30 inches. All this for the tidy sum of $15,000. Was wondering if this seems reasonable.

fuck no.  if he did all that and replaced both your units, maybe.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: CrocodileHunter on August 13, 2020, 09:12:15 PM
fuck no.  if he did all that and replaced both your units, maybe.
That’s what I was thinking. $15,000 for ductwork?  Are we talking about a 20,000 sq ft house?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on August 13, 2020, 10:36:36 PM
It’s nowhere near 20000 sqft. He’s not talking about replacing the duct work. Just installing screws in joints and sealing the joints in the existing duct work.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on August 13, 2020, 10:42:41 PM
It’s nowhere near 20000 sqft. He’s not talking about replacing the duct work. Just installing screws in joints and sealing the joints in the existing duct work.


Maybe he meant $1,500?  That actually sounds more realistic.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: razorwire on August 14, 2020, 09:58:24 AM
I just had my entire unit replaced for $4500. That’s the inside unit with gas furnace, 4 ton outside unit, and new thermostat. Y’all getting raped.
Did that price include new duct work?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigsteye on August 20, 2020, 07:22:22 PM
You nailed it. Single story, existing line sets, no new duct work. Inside unit easily located in hallway. 9 hr job.
you in NWA?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 22, 2021, 08:52:23 AM
Who can I call in LR for AC clean? I swear I used someone maybe animal? For my AC check and clean last time that was from Jacksonville? I have a fucking renter bitching that there’s mold or something in my ac and he’s become ill and sick. Then he said he has not changed the filter since early fall and said the filter needed to be changed at minimum every three months and not with a cheap ass filter but one that picks up allergens ect. I also said it’s spring time in arkansas but he says his sister stayed the night and is now stuffy and sick too 🙄.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on May 22, 2021, 10:46:23 AM
Middleton used to be good, no idea about them anymore
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on May 22, 2021, 10:19:57 PM
Speaking of filters.  Which are the best to use?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on May 23, 2021, 07:32:03 AM
Speaking of filters.  Which are the best to use?

The cheap ones. Just change them regularly. Most people don’t.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 24, 2021, 11:38:37 PM
Speaking of filters.  Which are the best to use?
i use the higher dollar Nordic pure ones and have had zero issues. They are blue. Animal is the person to ask. I have his folks coming out tomorrow.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on May 25, 2021, 06:24:07 AM
Speaking of filters.  Which are the best to use?

Merv 4 is what to look for. Anything with a higher Merv number is going to be really restrictive and really needs to be designed/sized for the system (and they usually aren't)

Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on May 25, 2021, 09:41:14 AM
Merv 4 is what to look for. Anything with a higher Merv number is going to be really restrictive and really needs to be designed/sized for the system (and they usually aren't)
:thumbup:
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on May 26, 2021, 11:42:25 AM
Merv 4 is what to look for. Anything with a higher Merv number is going to be really restrictive and really needs to be designed/sized for the system (and they usually aren't)

Merv 4!? That shit won't even filter out the skeeters!

Is there a manufacturer recommendation for the filters? I looked at the product page on Trane's website but nada.

I usually buy a case of 12 off the ebays for around $60 and change them about once a month or so - I think merv 11 is what I have now.

https://www.coolray.com/what-does-merv-rating-mean.php
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 26, 2021, 11:55:31 AM
Merv 4!? That shit won't even filter out the skeeters!

Is there a manufacturer recommendation for the filters? I looked at the product page on Trane's website but nada.

I usually buy a case of 12 off the ebays for around $60 and change them about once a month or so - I think merv 11 is what I have now.

https://www.coolray.com/what-does-merv-rating-mean.php
I provided a rec last page that’s worked well for me so far. Nordic Pure Merv12. I have also used the 7 as well.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on May 26, 2021, 12:10:29 PM
I provided a rec last page that’s worked well for me so far. Nordic Pure Merv12. I have also used the 7 as well.

Pretty sure most all filters are made in the USofA and basically the same so you are probably paying twice what you could be for that cool name

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=merv+12+filters+case+20x25
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 13, 2022, 09:57:26 AM
Anybody got an AC guy that’s quality? I usually call up Jacksonville Heating and Air and they’ve always been superb but they’re really swamped the guy said and my rental unit ain’t cooling down supposedly per my renter.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on May 13, 2022, 12:21:59 PM
Always had good luck with Bob and Ed’s.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 13, 2022, 12:25:09 PM
Always had good luck with Bob and Ed’s.
just reached out and left them a message.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Filthy_McSwine on May 13, 2022, 04:23:29 PM
Anybody got an AC guy that’s quality? I usually call up Jacksonville Heating and Air and they’ve always been superb but they’re really swamped the guy said and my rental unit ain’t cooling down supposedly per my renter.

I usually PM Animal but I can totally believe they're backed-up...it's ungodly hot down here right about now.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on May 13, 2022, 04:52:57 PM
I usually PM Animal but I can totally believe they're backed-up...it's ungodly hot down here right about now.

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Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 13, 2022, 05:11:29 PM
I usually PM Animal but I can totally believe they're backed-up...it's ungodly hot down here right about now.
already did and called his place and Bob and Ed’s can’t till Tuesday. Found another place coming tomorrow
Title: Re: AC Repair.
Post by: Filthy_McSwine on May 15, 2022, 07:45:09 AM
already did and called his place and Bob and Ed’s can’t till Tuesday. Found another place coming tomorrow

What’s the verdict???
Title: Re: AC Repair.
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 15, 2022, 09:09:42 AM
What’s the verdict???
the refrigerant was almost empty. They think there may be a leak and will be back out next week to check
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on May 16, 2022, 10:34:28 AM
Since I couldn’t get Jacksonville out I was able to call RKL Hesting and Cooling and the owner came out Saturday. They were fantastic and this morning they went over everything with me on the phone. My unit is 38 years old and still running which is impressive and I had never in 14 plus years added coolant. That was pricey but I can write it off. They said most likely I have a leak inside and a coil might need to be replaced. They said just monitor it for now and that coolant could last another two years. I told the owner I was gonna sell the place in July and they said an inspector would note the unit is old but in this market it may not be an issue or I could price to have replaced. A new unit is 6-7k but the owner said I would recoup the costs when selling but I dunno. I just wanna sell the shit and be done and considering this market and limited inventory I wonder if I shoukd or just sell as is. They were fantastic people and appreciated they walked me through everything
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on June 03, 2022, 04:24:44 PM
Upstairs air conditioner died this week.  Working through that and discovered the hot water heater is about to give out.  Frick it all…
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 03, 2022, 09:25:38 PM
I have an AC that is on the Outs right now too.  The compressor outside seems ok but the fan unit on my furnace thing isn’t turning on and blowing any air.  The other two are working so it hasn’t been bad but need to get it fixed when I get home.  Hopefully just a capacitor or something like that. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on June 04, 2022, 01:03:02 PM
Air guy said my upstairs unit is shot.  To even limp along for the rest of the summer it needs like 4 or 5 pounds of Freon, which this summer costs $750.

That caused me to go down an internet worm hole on the price of Freon.  Basically, it’s expensive for the same reason we can’t buy working gas cans anymore.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on June 04, 2022, 09:02:46 PM
So if I have a heat pump(4 ton) purchased within the last 5 years, what should I be expecting to pay for coolant?  I assume this thing isn't supposed to be using freon(R22 variety).

Another common coolant I saw was R-410a which seems to be a fraction of the cost of R-22. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 04, 2022, 09:09:21 PM
So if I have a heat pump(4 ton) purchased within the last 5 years, what should I be expecting to pay for coolant?  I assume this thing isn't supposed to be using freon(R22 variety).

Another common coolant I saw was R-410a which seems to be a fraction of the cost of R-22.

I think it’s going for about $100/pound, depending on how bad they want to rape you.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogslobber on June 10, 2022, 05:51:38 PM
Need a new unit at my house.   Like Trane.

Any recommendations in NWA.

What about Paschal ?  Good or bad ?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on June 10, 2022, 06:14:31 PM
paschal is expensive, but not as much as bud anderson.  a few years ago in my old house i got my system replaced, used air control.  cheapest.  they installed a lennox.  idk if they have other equipment options.  they did install some parts of it incorrectly b/c it was a dual zone system for a 2 story house.  they had to come back out and fix the dual zone issue.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 10, 2022, 08:33:38 PM
Need a new unit at my house.   Like Trane.

Any recommendations in NWA.

What about Paschal ?  Good or bad ?

I put two new carrier units in my house.  The downstairs one is an Infinity system, 5 ton, variable speed compressor and variable speed fan, 20 seer.  Super high efficiency,

The ONLY complaint I’ve had is the thermostat went out and the new one was $704.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on June 10, 2022, 08:51:07 PM
I got a quote for a new unit in LR and they quoted me $6k and said that was a deal. I said I’ll probably just sell the place and let someone else replace it. I don’t have the time or care to replace and I don’t care if it takes some off my price
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogslobber on June 11, 2022, 08:31:59 AM
I have a bid from George's is Rogers for a 2 ton, 16 seer Trane unit installed for $9,000.

Is this high ?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 11, 2022, 10:18:32 AM
I have a bid from George's is Rogers for a 2 ton, 16 seer Trane unit installed for $9,000.

Is this high ?

Is it a package unit or split system, and does that include new ductwork or just hooking to existing stuff?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogslobber on June 11, 2022, 04:41:44 PM
Replacing one of the 3 units in my house
Originally placed in 1998 when we built the house
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on June 13, 2022, 01:50:30 PM
Replacing one of the 3 units in my house
Originally placed in 1998 when we built the house

That seems high for a 2 ton swap unless there is some extras like the Rev mentioned and maybe that's just the biden price nowadays.

If you have a single story home with good attic access and no need for a new line set or new duct work and find a small shop with low overhead, I could see that price.

Dealer cost for our 4 ton 16 seer Trane split system and accouterments such as plenum box, dampers, new pad etc was $3000. Any shop is going to mark that up about 25-40% so that's +/- $3800.

Then it is just a matter of labor - probably a 10-16 hours between 2 guys so, assuming a low $40/hr rate, that's $500.   

Sales tax is going to add at least another $275-300 even the installer is paying it on their cost.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on June 13, 2022, 06:08:30 PM
That seems high for a 2 ton swap unless there is some extras like the Rev mentioned and maybe that's just the biden price nowadays.

Trane/American Standard is really high on equipment and everyone in the industry is jacking their prices every quarter. 9k isnt totally shocking. A basic swap like that a few years ago was 4500 to 5500 depending on equipment selection. Not anymore.

Honestly all of this stuff breaks down so I wouldn't go into it buying on name recognition. I would stay away from York and Lennox but anything else is pretty decent.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on June 13, 2022, 07:33:44 PM
Trane/American Standard is really high on equipment and everyone in the industry is jacking their prices every quarter. 9k isnt totally shocking. A basic swap like that a few years ago was 4500 to 5500 depending on equipment selection. Not anymore.

Honestly all of this stuff breaks down so I wouldn't go into it buying on name recognition. I would stay away from York and Lennox but anything else is pretty decent.
my trane is still going that is the original from “84.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on June 17, 2022, 07:48:26 AM
Is it a package unit or split system, and does that include new ductwork or just hooking to existing stuff?
Yeah, Jesus that seems high. Even for a combo.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 17, 2022, 08:49:33 AM
Yeah, Jesus that seems high. Even for a combo.

Jesus quit posting here years ago.

I’m his minion…The Rev.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on June 17, 2022, 08:53:37 AM
Upstairs AC seems to be struggling last few days. Can barely hold 77 without running continuously during peak heat. Stat reads 80% humidity but I don’t see how. Condensate line is draining like crazy. May be time for a new condenser.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 17, 2022, 09:07:47 AM
Upstairs AC seems to be struggling last few days. Can barely hold 77 without running continuously during peak heat. Stat reads 80% humidity but I don’t see how. Condensate line is draining like crazy. May be time for a new condenser.

May be time to clean your A-coil.

It’s pretty simple.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on June 17, 2022, 09:11:34 AM
We pay to have it serviced semi-annually. Debris all in the fucking thing. Bastards.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 18, 2022, 04:07:31 PM
We pay to have it serviced semi-annually. Debris all in the fucking thing. Bastards.

Do you have some sort of open return or not use filters?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on June 18, 2022, 04:29:28 PM
Do you have some sort of open return or not use filters?
There’s an open return in the ceiling upstairs but like a 4x24 filter that sits in the attic.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 18, 2022, 04:30:56 PM
You may have bigger issues then…
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on June 18, 2022, 07:34:23 PM
Tech came out and checked and said all good but added a pound of coolant.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 18, 2022, 09:14:06 PM
Tech came out and checked and said all good but added a pound of coolant.

So you have unfiltered air hitting your A coil?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on June 18, 2022, 09:28:20 PM
So you have unfiltered air hitting your A coil?

I think he is saying he has a 4" filter box in front of the blower in the attic. We have the same but I use the 1" return filters instead because I don't trust the bigger ones are any better.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 18, 2022, 09:30:45 PM
I think he is saying he has a 4" filter box in front of the blower in the attic. We have the same but I use the 1" return filters instead because I don't trust the bigger ones are any better.

4” thick?

That seems excessive….???
My factory frame was for 2”x24”x30”, and I went with a 1” also
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: earl on June 18, 2022, 09:39:04 PM
nm
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hit_that_line on June 18, 2022, 09:44:56 PM
Hell idk the four incher is what it’s slotted for in the attic. Some dude from Middleton said to jam four one inch filters in there wtf??
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on June 18, 2022, 09:50:11 PM
Hell idk the four incher is what it’s slotted for in the attic. Some dude from Middleton said to jam four one inch filters in there wtf??

Jamming 4 one inchers in the same slot sounds like Hoggly's mom at the woopig golf tournament after party.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on June 19, 2022, 06:10:41 AM
Hell idk the four incher is what it’s slotted for in the attic. Some dude from Middleton said to jam four one inch filters in there wtf??

4" is designed for lower static, it creates a much larger filter area and doesn't have a huge pressure drop, easier on the lifespan of the blower mtr.

Jamming four 1" filters in there would be bad. That would create a large pressure drop.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on June 19, 2022, 10:08:39 AM
Jamming 4 one inchers in the same slot sounds like Hoggly's mom at the woopig golf tournament after party.

Got damn  :tiw:
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: The Reverend Snoophogg on June 19, 2022, 10:15:27 AM
Jamming 4 one inchers in the same slot sounds like Hoggly's mom at the woopig golf tournament after party.

This is why we pay the dues. :borat:
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on July 06, 2022, 08:09:56 PM
We have our Thermostat set 75.  I get home after work and it's 89 degrees downstairs.  The air from the registers does seem cold and the house is SLOWLY cooling down.  It's 78  deg downstairs after being home for 3 hours.

Time to put a call in?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on July 06, 2022, 08:11:10 PM
We have our Thermostat set 75.  I get home after work and it's 89 degrees downstairs.  The air from the registers does seem cold and the house is SLOWLY cooling down.  It's 78  deg downstairs after being home for 3 hours.

Time to put a call in?
this what was happening to mine and I just need more coolant
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on July 06, 2022, 08:14:19 PM
That indicates a leak if I'm low, correct?  I had a leak 2-3 years ago and had the coil replaced.   Unit is a Lennox that is 5 years old.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 06, 2022, 08:18:00 PM
That indicates a leak if I'm low, correct?  I had a leak 2-3 years ago and had the coil replaced.   Unit is a Lennox that is 5 years old.

It indicates that the ac wasn't operating normally for a period of time today. Overheating issues on the ac unit because of a weak capacitor, dirty coil, or could be a drain stopping up with a overflow cutoff sensor...many possibilities but most likely it didn't fix itself.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on July 06, 2022, 09:04:30 PM
It indicates that the ac wasn't operating normally for a period of time today. Overheating issues on the ac unit because of a weak capacitor, dirty coil, or could be a drain stopping up with a overflow cutoff sensor...many possibilities but most likely it didn't fix itself.

Waiting for a call back.  It'll be interesting to see how soon they can make it out.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on July 06, 2022, 09:06:21 PM
Also, thank you!
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Rick B. on July 06, 2022, 09:37:20 PM
My HVAC guy is a moron. Soon after he installed our new system, it starts making sort of a knocking noise. It's not a loose fan. It's not other loose parts. What it sounds like is maybe a bubble in the coolant line. And it only makes this noise when the system has been running for a while thanks to it being a billion fucking shitty degrees outside. So it does it a lot from mid June through late August.

He comes out to look at it recently and figured it was the drain line and added a little P trap to it. Charged me $125. I'm like, you didn't fix the noise. He said he was going to research it and would get back to me. That was 3 weeks ago.

It's not the evaporator on the outside of the house. If you get close to the pipe where both the drain line and the coolant pipe exit the house, you can hear it pretty loudly. It's very odd. System is only 4-5 years old.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 07, 2022, 08:34:49 AM
Have a guy coming to look at mine today.  1 of the 3 quit blowing air so I hope it is just something they can fix in the Trane unit in the attic.  Maybe a cap or control board.  Thoughts and prayers for my wallet
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on July 07, 2022, 08:52:02 AM
I have a guy coming sometime today.  Hopefully it's something that's obvious for him to fix. 

Went ahead and shut off the cooling and set the fan to on last night.  Turned the AC back on this morning for a couple hours.  Got the temp down to from 80 to 78 before the brunt of the heat hits.  Now I've switched it back off.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigtacular on July 07, 2022, 10:57:30 AM
I wasn't at the house unfortunately (wife was), he added freon.

He didn't indicate there was a leak. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 07, 2022, 02:37:20 PM
Dude has changed the cap and no luck.  He is trying to fix it but doesn’t seem all that knowledgeable about the unit.  Hope he can get it fixed.