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Title: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on October 27, 2009, 09:54:37 PM
Any Association fans here?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on October 27, 2009, 10:22:50 PM
Thought about starting a thread while watching the Cavs game.

It looks like there's gonna be a huge gap between the top 5 teams (lakers, spurs, cavs, celtics, and magic) and everyone else.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on October 27, 2009, 10:34:06 PM
This should tell you something.

It's Tuesday night after a blowout on Monday Night Football and THAT thread is still on the main board and getting posts.

NBA action starts tonight. Crapola. 3 posts.


The league is down.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on October 27, 2009, 11:10:41 PM
This should tell you something.

It's Tuesday night after a blowout on Monday Night Football and THAT thread is still on the main board and getting posts.

NBA action starts tonight. Crapola. 3 posts.


The league is down.

Interest may be down HERE, but I'd say the NBA is in the best shape it's been in since Jordan. There are a lot of stars.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on October 28, 2009, 09:08:40 AM
I like the NBA because it's not tainted by rampant drug use and rule thuggery like MLB seems to be.

I can't figure out why in the world AI is in Memphis though.  I'm sure he's trying to figure out why he's there too.  If the Cavs are wanting to be treated as the team to beat in the East though, they needed to make a statement by winning that game last night. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on October 28, 2009, 10:18:25 AM
I like the NBA because it's not tainted by rampant drug use and rule thuggery like MLB seems to be.

I can't figure out why in the world AI is in Memphis though.  I'm sure he's trying to figure out why he's there too.  If the Cavs are wanting to be treated as the team to beat in the East though, they needed to make a statement by winning that game last night. 

AI is in Memphis now?  Speaking of face of the franchise. 

Judge:  Officer, how could you be sure that a homicide had taken place.

Policeman:  To please the court, sir, I was in Memphis.  Need I say more?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on October 28, 2009, 12:40:12 PM
I casually follow the Nuggets and they should be solid again but I think the Lakers are a cut above the rest of the West until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on October 28, 2009, 12:44:36 PM
Right now the Lakers are the Yankees of NBA ball.  I was shocked to see them introduce Adam Morrison as one of their scrubs. 

They clearly are willing to pay what it takes and do what it takes to build a deep team that can win on any given night off the efforts of 5 or 6 other really good players, not named Kobe, that would be "stars" in other markets. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ahole on October 28, 2009, 03:37:27 PM
Right now the Lakers are the Yankees of NBA ball.  I was shocked to see them introduce Adam Morrison as one of their scrubs. 

They clearly are willing to pay what it takes and do what it takes to build a deep team that can win on any given night off the efforts of 5 or 6 other really good players, not named Kobe, that would be "stars" in other markets. 

In baseball you can buy championships whereas in basketball you have to be smart to win championships. The Yankees can spend $250M on 3 players in the off-season to fill in holes. In basketball, with the salary cap, everyone spends about the same amount of money so you have to pick and choose who you sign, how much you pay them, and who you release or let go to FA to make room for new personnel.

The Lakers signed Ron Artest but had to let go of Trevor Ariza, a good young player, to make room for him. They convinced Memphis to practically GIVE them Pao Gasol a couple years ago in a very lopsided but legal trade. Adam Morrison was a throw in player in a trade last year with Charlotte where the Lakers were trying to dump salary. The Yankees just threw a shitload of cash at CC, Tex, and Burnett.

I guess I just don't get the comparison between the Yankees and the Lakers. They are both good but for very different reasons.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on October 28, 2009, 05:08:14 PM
[The Lakers] convinced Memphis to practically GIVE them Pao Gasol a couple years ago in a very lopsided but legal trade.

Pao didn't do nuthin in memphis. He was la-zy. But as soon as he gets on a team with a chance to win a title, he sure picked his game up.  Memphis fans (there's like 12 of them) still gripe about that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on October 28, 2009, 05:26:59 PM

They convinced Memphis to practically GIVE them Pao Gasol a couple years ago in a very lopsided but legal trade. Adam Morrison was a throw in player in a trade last year with Charlotte where the Lakers were trying to dump salary.

I guess I just don't get the comparison between the Yankees and the Lakers. They are both good but for very different reasons.

I think the oddest thing about the Morrison trade is that Shannon Brown has actually helped the Lakers.

In other news, it's not the Tequila diet of Lendale White, but it looks like Caron Butler quit his addiction to Mountain Dew and lost 11 pounds. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/More-on-Caron-Butler-s-extreme-Mountain-Dew-addi?urn=nba,198240

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on October 28, 2009, 05:46:06 PM
Pao didn't do nuthin in memphis. He was la-zy. But as soon as he gets on a team with a chance to win a title, he sure picked his game up.  Memphis fans (there's like 12 of them) still gripe about that.

As a distinguished member of the panel of 12, the only thing I gripe about is the skimpy amount of pork on my Neely's BBQ nachos.

I appreciate Pau's brother a lot more.  He at least plays hard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on October 28, 2009, 07:38:20 PM
I

I guess I just don't get the comparison between the Yankees and the Lakers. They are both good but for very different reasons.

Well, I'm talking about the star power and the way they are not afraid to stack their team with names and willing to spend what they can to do it.  Sure there is a salary cap in the NBA and in the NFL, but some teams still find a way to spend more and get more then other teams who hold lots of cap space and are always full of no-names and scrubs. 

The Lakers take their game seriously, as do the Celtics. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on November 03, 2009, 10:15:01 PM
Not that anyone here will care, but Dirk was brilliant tonight for the mavs...once the 4th quarter started. Dude had something like 11 points going into the 4th. Scores 29 in the 4th leading the Mavs back from a 16 (i think) point deficit to end up winning by almost 10.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on November 14, 2009, 01:33:14 AM
Denver took a whooping stick to the Lakers ass tonight. This Ty Lawson kid who played at UNC can str8 ball son.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on November 14, 2009, 07:56:25 AM
That was a good win by the Hawks on the Celtic's floor.

I am really sick of Kevin Garnett's constant chest thumping and facial expressions that the TV guys live for.  It's really O.L.D. 

I still think the Hawks needed a space filler big man - didn't need to be Dwight Howard - it could have been Erik Dampier, for Pete's sake.  They just need more size.  I think they could actually be the main contender to Boston and Orlando in the East if they had traded that Josh guy for 2 space filler guys like what Cleveland is trying to do. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on November 14, 2009, 08:28:19 AM
Not that anyone here will care, but Dirk was brilliant tonight for the mavs...once the 4th quarter started. Dude had something like 11 points going into the 4th. Scores 29 in the 4th leading the Mavs back from a 16 (i think) point deficit to end up winning by almost 10.
Is almost 10 something like 9?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jar2 on November 14, 2009, 06:30:49 PM
This is shaping up to be the best NBA season since MJ "retired" from the Bulls after their win against Utah in 1997.



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on November 14, 2009, 06:47:26 PM
Is almost 10 something like 9?

Most places.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on November 14, 2009, 06:58:16 PM
As a distinguished member of the panel of 12, the only thing I gripe about is the skimpy amount of pork on my Neely's BBQ nachos.

I appreciate Pau's brother a lot more.  He at least plays hard.

It looks like signing A.I. worked to per-fucking-fection.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TheGreatBoardero on November 14, 2009, 08:07:45 PM
Don't know if any one has read these excerpts from Donaghey's never to be seen book, but very compelling reading to say the least.

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read?skyline=true&s=x (http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read?skyline=true&s=x)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 14, 2009, 08:21:43 PM
Don't know if any one has read these excerpts from Donaghey's never to be seen book, but very compelling reading to say the least.

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read?skyline=true&s=x (http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read?skyline=true&s=x)

That is a book that must be published.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on January 22, 2010, 07:48:42 PM
Rudy Gay (NTTAWT) can dunk the shit out of the ball. Too bad no one goes to Grizz games.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on January 22, 2010, 08:56:44 PM
It looks like President Clinton has skin cancer above his right eye.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TravelHog on January 22, 2010, 08:57:39 PM
Why does anyone even give a aMm before the playoffs?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 25, 2010, 12:09:14 PM
I'm sure a lot of people have been wondering that if they ever make it to the NBA can they chew on straws rather than gum. Apparently not ...

NBA bans Butler from chewing straws

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4945104 (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4945104)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 25, 2010, 12:15:48 PM
They're just pissed that the Mavs kicked the Lakers ass last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 25, 2010, 03:53:59 PM
They're just pissed that the Mavs kicked the Lakers ass last night.

Yeah real ass kicking. 5 point win in Dallas. It wasn't like LA was playing on back to back nights on the road or anything.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 25, 2010, 03:56:22 PM
W is a W.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 25, 2010, 03:58:23 PM
W is a W.

And a W ain't necessarily an ass kicking. Just sayin'.

The association better be more concerned with the impending lockout. Simmons' article this week was dead on.

McGrady makes more money than the Thunder's starting five combined.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: spookytooth on February 26, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
I'm sure a lot of people have been wondering that if they ever make it to the NBA can they chew on straws rather than gum. Apparently not ...

NBA bans Butler from chewing straws

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4945104 (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=4945104)
stu jackson (aka stern's errand boy) has to feel like a douche having to deliver this admonition. the league that alters the rules of basketball to allow travelling (yet still allows 4 steps routinely), that somewhat falsely portrays itself as a league that has heart by promoting civic service of it's players (they were proud to have raised $100k for haitian relief; that's like me giving $10.);this league ought to concern itself with more important matters :bird:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 26, 2010, 10:02:19 AM
stu jackson (aka stern's errand boy) has to feel like a douche having to deliver this admonition. the league that alters the rules of basketball to allow travelling (yet still allows 4 steps routinely), that somewhat falsely portrays itself as a league that has heart by promoting civic service of it's players (they were proud to have raised $100k for haitian relief; that's like me giving $10.);this league ought to concern itself with more important matters :bird:

It really is amazing how pissy they get over little shit. I remember a few years back when the new fad was to wear compression legging (leg tights) rather than compression shorts. I think lebron, kobe, and others were starting to wear them. I especially remember stackhouse wearing them b/c as an older player he felt like his legs didn't tighten up on him near as fast. Sure enough they go ahead and ban those, but still let players wear anything they want on their arms. Makes no sense at all.

(http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/Kobe.jpg)



In other news, Thabeet was demoted to the D-League. Good job Grizz. Once when it looks like the franchise is starting to turn the corner, they have to send the #2 pick to the minors.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on February 26, 2010, 10:22:40 AM
The league is at its most talented since Jordan retired the first time in 93, too bad there is going to be a lockout in 2011.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jar2 on February 26, 2010, 10:58:55 AM
It really is amazing how pissy they get over little shit. I remember a few years back when the new fad was to wear compression legging (leg tights) rather than compression shorts. I think lebron, kobe, and others were starting to wear them. I especially remember stackhouse wearing them b/c as an older player he felt like his legs didn't tighten up on him near as fast. Sure enough they go ahead and ban those, but still let players wear anything they want on their arms. Makes no sense at all.



I chew on the end of straws as a nervous habit when i'm working on a project, but I don't wad the thing up like Butler does. 

Why doesn't the NBA go ahead and allow the players to chew on seeds and tobacky during games like they do in MLB?  I'm sure after a few hundred timeouts to clean up the mess, straws won't really seem like such a bad idea.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 26, 2010, 11:00:55 AM
stu jackson (aka stern's errand boy) has to feel like a douche having to deliver this admonition. the league that alters the rules of basketball to allow travelling (yet still allows 4 steps routinely), that somewhat falsely portrays itself as a league that has heart by promoting civic service of it's players (they were proud to have raised $100k for haitian relief; that's like me giving $10.);this league ought to concern itself with more important matters :bird:

The NBA did donate 1 million.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on October 27, 2010, 05:42:10 PM
So The Heat looked amazing last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 16, 2011, 01:52:12 PM
Anyone seeing what the Pacers are doing to the Bulls
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: NotoriousPIG on April 16, 2011, 02:04:53 PM
Anyone seeing what the Pacers are doing to the Bulls

Not pleasant.

Thank fuck that pussy Tyler Hansborough got elbowed in the head cause he's been killing the Bulls in the second half. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on April 16, 2011, 02:05:40 PM
Hansbrough got KTFO.  Hey Tyler, welcome to the playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 16, 2011, 02:06:09 PM
Psycho T has no idea where he is right now.  realstunned
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 16, 2011, 02:29:09 PM
Not pleasant.

Thank fuck that pussy Tyler Hansborough got elbowed in the head cause he's been killing the Bulls in the second half. 
That pussy is beating the fuck outta the Bulls right now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Doc Hogaday on April 16, 2011, 02:43:32 PM
Damn. #8 seed leads the #1 seed the entire game on their home court and blows a 10-point lead in the last 2 minutes.  Bulls will take this series 4-0 now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: NotoriousPIG on April 16, 2011, 02:46:24 PM
D-Fucking-Rose

Cat is unreal.

Hoping for the sweep as I have Game 3 Tix.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 16, 2011, 02:58:49 PM

Hoping for the sweep as I have Game 3 Tix.
Sweet. That was a pretty awesome atmosphere in the United Center today
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 17, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
Grizzlies look good early against the Spurs, lead 27-22 at the end of the 1st qtr.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 17, 2011, 01:21:43 PM
Grizzlies look good early against the Spurs, lead 27-22 at the end of the 1st qtr.

Before the game, Barkley picked the Grizz to win... the series.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 17, 2011, 01:26:51 PM
Before the game, Barkley picked the Grizz to win... the series.



I saw that. I love his optimism.

Grizz lead 45-43 at halftime.

(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/187826_37749707254_7959679_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 17, 2011, 02:20:13 PM
Spurs lead the Grizz 74-70 heading to the 4th.

Other series starting today:
Hornets @ Lakers 2:30 on ABC
Knicks @ Celtics 6:00 on TNT
Nuggets @ Thunder 8:30 on TNT

Those last 2 should be good series.

We have a NBA thread icon, needs to be used for this thread please.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 17, 2011, 03:03:56 PM
GRIZZLIES WIN!!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 17, 2011, 05:11:33 PM
and another great effort by the Lakers. It looks like they are about to lose by around 10 points.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 17, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
Lakers are fine. Their bigs didn't show up.

Ray Allen just went clutch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 24, 2011, 08:37:52 PM
The Hawks vs Magic series is some of the ugliest basketball I've seen in a while.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 25, 2011, 06:41:54 PM
Go Grizz!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: songofthesword on April 25, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
memphis getting in that azz
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 25, 2011, 09:20:30 PM
Can we get the NBA threads merged?

Assuming the Thunder and Grizz both advance, the I-40 series should be entertaining. I'm a little worried that the Griz are too physical for the Thunder. I do think the Thunder bigs will do a better job than the Spurs' bigs against Randolph and Gasol.



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 27, 2011, 07:24:11 PM
Go Grizz!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 27, 2011, 09:44:00 PM
Refs are trying to keep the Spurs alive.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 27, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
Refs are trying to keep the Spurs alive.

no shit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 27, 2011, 09:50:02 PM
23 fouls on the Grizz
12 fouls on the Spurs
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 27, 2011, 10:00:40 PM
Z-BO!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on April 27, 2011, 10:04:24 PM
Zbo is a man. Floppers are done.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on April 27, 2011, 10:09:36 PM
I thought the call of the floor was a 2 pointer.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 27, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
Fuck
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on April 27, 2011, 10:13:54 PM
Well fuck
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 27, 2011, 10:14:30 PM
 :suicide:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on April 27, 2011, 11:26:11 PM
Kevin Durant is plum out of his mind. He's killing the Nuggets.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on April 28, 2011, 10:42:43 AM
:suicide:
I will NEVER understand the thinking of coaches who refuse to foul late in the game instead of letting the other team shoot a 3. I can count on one hand the number of times I seen this strategy backfire on a team....meanwhile, I see players hit 3's to tie games all the frickin' time.

BTW, why the frick was Battier following Duncan into the lane instead of staying out by the 3 pt line?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: NotoriousPIG on April 28, 2011, 09:14:21 PM
For all the money the Hawks are paying Joe Johnson he just got them past the Magic to round 2 so congrats Joe.  Look forward to watching Brewer and Johnson on the court at the same time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 29, 2011, 11:05:38 PM
Z-BO was on fire in the fourth quarter. 31 and 12 for the game and YOUR Memphis Grizzlies move on to the 2nd round to face Chokelahoma City, whom they beat 3 of 4 times this season.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 29, 2011, 11:09:33 PM
Z-BO was on fire in the fourth quarter. 31 and 12 for the game and YOUR Memphis Grizzlies move on to the 2nd round to face Chokelahoma City, whom they beat 3 of 4 times this season.
:beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 29, 2011, 11:56:14 PM
Z-BO was on fire in the fourth quarter. 31 and 12 for the game and YOUR Memphis Grizzlies move on to the 2nd round to face Chokelahoma City, whom they beat 3 of 4 times this season.
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/Grizz.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on April 30, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
I read in yesterday's paper that apparently a bunch of Hawks players were pissed off by hearing Jameer Nelson tell Derek Rose at the end of the season through an open mike that they would see each other in Round 2.

LOL at you Magic and J Nelson. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 30, 2011, 09:14:41 AM
You guys that hate the NBA need to check out this next round. The Grizzlies play a fantastic offense predicated on getting the bigs involved. Its not the boring stand around the three point line and chunk it up shit they do in college now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on April 30, 2011, 09:23:12 AM
I love the NBA and I'm one of the ones on here that defend it against the haters, who yet somehow mysteriously can watch snoozers like MLB and pro golf.  Anyway...

I just haven't been able to really enjoy the NBA too much this year.  The whole Heat thing just bored the shit out of me.  I've never thought that they automatically became the team to beat.
I'll be watching this next Hawks Bull series though - there is going to be a ton of real athleticism on display there. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on April 30, 2011, 09:23:37 AM
Grizz goan get raped.  Prison style.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 30, 2011, 09:39:58 AM
Grizz goan get raped.  Prison style.
(http://twenty-somethingtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/haters_gonna_hate.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 30, 2011, 11:17:10 AM
Grizz goan get raped.  Prison style.

Tell me who will stop Z BO? If Conley and Mayo are knocking down shots, the Thunder are done.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: MBAHog on April 30, 2011, 11:23:45 AM
Tell me who will stop Z BO? If Conley and Mayo are knocking down shots, the Thunder are done.

Your choice.  Perkins or Ibaka.  Both will slow down Z Bo and his Z Bounds.  Mayo wasn't even playing a lot of crunch time, and Tony Allen can't shut down both Durant AND Westbrook.

I love the playoffs.  In round 1, I wanted the Grizzlies to win and the Lakers and Heat to lose.  But in round 2, I want the Grizz to lose and the Lakers and Heat to win.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ham Malone on April 30, 2011, 01:02:33 PM
Grizz goan get raped.  Prison style.
Absolutely.  Loved watching the Grizz take down the Spurs, since every rational NBA fan hates watching the damn Spurs.  But the party is over, Grizz lose in 5. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 30, 2011, 01:22:44 PM
Unlike with Jeff Green, the Thunder have the post players to defend Randolph and Gasol. Tony Allen and Battier will do a solid job on Durant, which really leaves the Thunder needing Westbrook to playing good. The only problem is that in the last the couple of games he was doing his best imitation of Gary Ervin and Courtney Fortston.

I would've preferred to play the Spurs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 30, 2011, 06:45:05 PM
Your choice.  Perkins or Ibaka.  Both will slow down Z Bo and his Z Bounds.  Mayo wasn't even playing a lot of crunch time, and Tony Allen can't shut down both Durant AND Westbrook.

I love the playoffs.  In round 1, I wanted the Grizzlies to win and the Lakers and Heat to lose.  But in round 2, I want the Grizz to lose and the Lakers and Heat to win.

Yep. The only thing that concerns me is Perkins wasnt around for the regular season meetings. I think it goes 6 but Im not sure who wins.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 01, 2011, 09:55:50 AM
All this talk of OKC, Memphis, Chicago, Miami and Atlanta makes me giggle.

Lakers v Celtics in the finals again. Kobe gets ring 6 and Phil gets his fourth three peat.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 01, 2011, 10:20:39 AM
Celts gotta get by the Heat first.  Easier said than done, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 01, 2011, 02:23:16 PM
Unlike with Jeff Green, the Thunder DO NOT have the post players to defend Randolph and Gasol. Tony Allen and Battier will do a solid job on Durant, which really leaves the Thunder needing Westbrook to playing good. The only problem is that in the last the couple of games he was doing his best imitation of Gary Ervin and Courtney Fortston. If the Thunder quit being little bitches they have a chance at winning this series.

I would've preferred to play the Spurs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 01, 2011, 02:28:40 PM
Absolutely.  Loved watching the Grizz take down the Spurs, since every rational NBA fan hates watching the damn Spurs. 

Because they aren't thugs?  Or because their star doesn't rape people?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 01, 2011, 02:33:19 PM
Because they aren't thugs?  Or because their star doesn't rape people?
Because they flop, their aging star acts as if he has never committed a foul and their PG is a faggy frenchman.

Other than that, they are A Okay!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 01, 2011, 02:41:46 PM
Up in that ass okc!!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 01, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
Grizz goan get raped.  Prison style.

(http://woopig.net/images/giggle02.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 01, 2011, 02:48:16 PM
Fisher vs Kidd is like watching Foreman vs Frazier. They are all the same age= old as fuck.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ham Malone on May 01, 2011, 04:36:56 PM
Because they flop, their aging star acts as if he has never committed a foul and their PG is a faggy frenchman.

Other than that, they are A Okay!
Your answer is perfect.  It's agonizing to have to watch the Spurs. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 02, 2011, 01:02:08 AM
Nobody in the NBA acts like they have never committed a foul.

Especially Arkansas' golden boy in May and June, DFish, the biggest faker of them all.  Watching him try and go through a screen is like watching the Hiroshima aftermath.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: coophog on May 02, 2011, 08:01:44 PM
Ronnie Brewer is guarding Joe Johnson. WPS
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 02, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
I just love the way Joe Johnson plays the game and I think he'd be my favorite NBA player to root for even if he wasn't a Hog.  He decided to take that game over tonight.  The intensity is always funny to watch on his face until the very end when he cracked a big smile. 

This series is probably going to be pretty good.  2 good young teams that are each just one piece away from moving up to the next level. The Hawks still need a big, girthy guy.  They need some muscle.  The Bulls have plenty of it. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 02, 2011, 11:16:26 PM
Joe had 34 and was 5/5 on 3pt. I agree about the series being a good one. To be honest, there are several good match ups this year.

I am watching the TNT halftime show with Chuck, Webber, Kenny, and a young dude. It is actually such a relief to espn. They are talking about the Lakers getting calls and how you need to hit Artest in the throat to calm him down. Pretty insightful stuff.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on May 03, 2011, 01:38:39 AM
MAVS BITCHES.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Loma on May 03, 2011, 08:01:50 AM
I just love the way Joe Johnson plays the game and I think he'd be my favorite NBA player to root for even if he wasn't a Hog.  He decided to take that game over tonight.  The intensity is always funny to watch on his face until the very end when he cracked a big smile. 

This series is probably going to be pretty good.  2 good young teams that are each just one piece away from moving up to the next level. The Hawks still need a big, girthy guy.  They need some muscle.  The Bulls have plenty of it. 

Joe is so damn silky.


If he keeps playing like this, he'll be able to buy a Ford F-150.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 03, 2011, 09:11:49 AM
now that the Spurs are eliminated (you all can GFY) i'm on the ATL bandwagon. love watching Joe play but he drives me nuts when he dribbles out the shot clock till there's about 5 seconds left and then just dumps the ball to an unsuspecting teammate.

lots of good ball in the Association this year and these playoffs are going to be stellar. there's a good chance that Boston / Miami will wind up being a fistfight. Boston screwed the pooch by trading Perkins. i realize they were trying to get an athletic wing to help on Lebron but they got rid of a guy (Perk) that protects the rim, rebounds everything close to him, and is probably in the top 2 or 3 in terms of toughness in the whole league.

as a San Antonio fan, i'm ready for the Richard Jefferson experiment to end. GTFO.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 03, 2011, 12:31:11 PM
Boston screwed the pooch by trading Perkins. i realize they were trying to get an athletic wing to help on Lebron but they got rid of a guy (Perk) that protects the rim, rebounds everything close to him, and is probably in the top 2 or 3 in terms of toughness in the whole league.


Thats pretty funny because Gasol and Randolph absolutely abused them on the inside. Perkins just looked better when he was playing beside Garnett.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 03, 2011, 01:14:50 PM
Thats pretty funny because Gasol and Randolph absolutely abused them on the inside. Perkins just looked better when he was playing beside Garnett.

a list of  the top 5 defensive big men would probably have both Perk and KG on it. and its likely that Perkins isn't fully comfortable with his new team as of yet. not taking anything away from Randolph and Gasol but their defense is predicated on over-playing the passing lanes and great help/recovery with their athletic guards.

i think they've got a real good chance to beat OKC, if they keep shooting such a ridiculous percentage on contested shots, and i would force Russell Westbrook to take shots and beat me if i were them.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 03, 2011, 08:33:30 PM
Miami is about to jump out to a 2-0 lead. That's too bad.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 03, 2011, 09:01:57 PM
I don't know why but I always felt like the drop off for Kevin Garnett's skills was going to be really quick and steep when it happened and I almost wonder if it already isn't starting.

The 2011 Celtics remind me a lot of the Pistons for about 5 years after that last championship.  Same crew every year, just one year older and there was just this certainty that even though they were going to win a good amount of regular season games and get in to the playoffs, they were still never going to win another championship.  There is a lot of supposed "superstar" on that Celtic team that is finishing out games with 10 or less points while collecting huge salaries.

The Bulls have a heck of a strength and conditioning program.  All those guys looked ripped and strong last night even while losing.  Noah doesn't look anything like the skinny kid that played at Florida. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 04, 2011, 12:13:31 AM
Granted, I haven't watched a ton of Celtics games, but Garnett looks like nothing more than a role player to me. A spot-up shooter who plays good, not great, defense.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 05, 2011, 12:35:35 AM
Lakers v Celtics in the finals again. Kobe gets ring 6 and Phil gets his fourth three peat.

who would have thought both those teams would be down 0-2 in their matchups?

at least the Celtics are going home, the Lakers just dropped 2 games in their building and are headed to Dallas.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 05, 2011, 04:22:20 PM
The Lakers could very well get swept. Kobe's hurt, Gasol is a weeping gash, and nobody seems to want to step up.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 05, 2011, 10:30:45 PM
Right about now though is when the Lakers then all step up and play hard.  A desperate Laker team is a tough deal to kill. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 06, 2011, 03:26:52 PM
The Commish isnt going to like a OKC/MEM/DAL coming out of the west. I expect Tim Donaghey to be on the court in Dallas.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 06, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
The Commish isnt going to like a OKC/MEM/DAL coming out of the west. I expect Tim Donaghey to be on the court in Dallas.

All it takes is dan crawford, dallas' biggest nemesis.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 06, 2011, 11:11:54 PM
FUCK

THE

LAKERS

AND

THOSE

THAT

WEAR

THEIR

JERSEYS

WITH

JORTS.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 06, 2011, 11:50:10 PM
The Lakers could very well get swept. Kobe's hurt, Gasol is a weeping gash, and nobody seems to want to step up.

1 game closer
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on May 07, 2011, 12:21:03 AM

Right about now though is when the Lakers then all step up and play hard.  A desperate Laker team is a tough deal to kill. 


I thought the same thing.  But now there's no way they come back from 3 games down.  Oooor is there?

But look on the bright side, it should give Kobe extra time for practice.  ::)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 07, 2011, 06:29:55 PM
Things are getting interesting
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 07, 2011, 06:59:50 PM
Wow, I did not see that coming.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 07, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
Should have won in regulation but what are you gonna do. :thumbup:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 07, 2011, 09:13:06 PM
KG is eating asshole alive.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 07, 2011, 09:45:31 PM
KG is eating asshole alive.

Bosh?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 07, 2011, 09:49:43 PM
Bosh?

asshole eaten alive along with Queen James.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 07, 2011, 09:58:30 PM
no heart heat are going to lose game four as well.  they'll fold like a cheap tent when that happens.  james has the heart of an amoeba.  he's a quitter.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 07, 2011, 10:09:32 PM
I don't think the Heat will lose the series but man, if they DID collapse, holy crap!  Lebron James would be a marked man, maybe forever. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 07, 2011, 10:55:42 PM
I can't believe that Rondo came back from that elbow injury. Unreal.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 07, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
I can't believe that Rondo came back from that elbow injury. Unreal.


that was some grizzly shit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shithead on May 07, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
that was some grizzly aMm.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 08, 2011, 03:41:16 PM
LOLakers.

down 24 at halftime.

have a nice summer.

the best Gasol is still playing.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: aboynamedsooiee on May 08, 2011, 03:50:31 PM
LOLakers.

down 24 at halftime.

have a nice summer.

the best Gasol is still playing.
Jason Terry is 6/7 from 3pt. Dallas Bench has 40 points. Team is hitting 11/15 from 3.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 08, 2011, 04:13:31 PM
Jason Terry is 6/7 from 3pt. Dallas Bench has 40 points. Team is hitting 11/15 from 3.

yeah, Lakers are getting crushed.

somewhere, a raccoon is getting kicked, possibly molested.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on May 08, 2011, 04:36:52 PM
Well I think that 3 putting them up 27 may have iced it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 08, 2011, 05:37:58 PM
Sic Semper Rapist
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Turd F. on May 08, 2011, 05:53:58 PM
F-you Bynum.  :2bird:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 09, 2011, 07:05:13 AM
The Lakers showed that they are, indeed, bitches.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 09, 2011, 07:40:03 AM
Bynum and Odom are bitches.  The league doesn't need to punish Odom though.  Having  to go home to that wookie of a bitch is punishment enough.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 09, 2011, 08:55:21 AM
An absolute bedshitting on the part of the Lakers. Should be an interesting off season.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 09, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
This game is sickening. I'm already basing my conspiracy on the NBA wanting the "flood" team to advance.  :smirey:


This is kind of funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzx7gcMqJA0&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzx7gcMqJA0&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 09, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
I think it is a foregone conclusion that the Heat now win this series.  I just wonder if Boston will even have enough to win another game now.  Their aged starters played a ton of minutes tonight and Rondo is one handed. 

The thing is, Miami made a ton of mistakes and not great plays down the stretch.  That wasn't that beautiful of a game. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 09, 2011, 09:32:31 PM
Phil's line "we have 23" killed me.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 09, 2011, 10:49:31 PM
Get the lead and Westbrook goes immediately to his half court offense iso-ways.  :suicide:

Luckily as a Hog fan I already know that the Thunder will fuck up and blow the game in the final minute.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 09, 2011, 11:27:54 PM
Get the lead and Westbrook goes immediately to his half court offense iso-ways.  :suicide:

Luckily as a Hog fan I already know that the Thunder will fuck up and blow the game in the final minute.

(http://richardwiseman.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/nostradamus2.jpg)

3:30 to go in the game and the meltdown is beginning.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 10, 2011, 08:12:53 AM
What a game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 10, 2011, 10:24:34 AM
Celts' window is closed, I'm afeared.  They had a great run, managed to win one title.  But...age gets all of us. 

BTW, like Rondo or not, the SOB is one tough SOB.

The thing that strikes me on this, is the Celts are going out fighting to the last breath, and I am sort of proud of that.  The Lickers are whine titties that quit when the going gets tough.  Pussies.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 10, 2011, 01:45:41 PM
The Heat should have never gotten into OT.  Lebron took over 5 steps to get the game tying bucket.  It was a walk, before he walked.     
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 10, 2011, 03:36:39 PM
And Paul Pierce palms the ball every time he changes direction, Rondo drives with one arm perpetually pushing off, and Delonte West will bang your drunk mom.

Welcome to the NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 10, 2011, 03:43:57 PM
And Paul Pierce palms the ball every time he changes direction, Rondo drives with one arm perpetually pushing off, and Delonte West will bang your drunk mom.

Welcome to the NBA.

I see your point but my mom wasn't drunk.   :stache:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 10, 2011, 04:17:43 PM
Oh yeah, you see a brazillion traveling and palming violations in these playoffs.  I still prefer the way NBA refs call games to the way college refs do with their constant disruption of the flow and beauty of the game.  College refs strike me as attention whores, especially the ones that make all those exaggerated blocking foul calls late in games. 

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 10, 2011, 09:38:15 PM
Great game 5 between ATL and Chicago.  I'm a Bulls fan but it's hard not to cheer for Joe.  Dude's a beast, but the Bulls defense is too much right now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogustus on May 11, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Oh yeah, you see a brazillion traveling and palming violations in these playoffs.  I still prefer the way NBA refs call games to the way college refs do with their constant disruption of the flow and beauty of the game.  College refs strike me as attention whores, especially the ones that make all those exaggerated blocking foul calls late in games. 

And I wasn't due to think of Ted Valentine for another six months or so.  Thanks. 

But you're right.  The NCAA needs to weed out a good percentage of the attention-seeking and bad call making refs each year; the game would be better for it.  I get tired of guys at half-court calling stuff under the basket.  Their attention shouldn't be in that area at all.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 11, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
Miami closing in on 40 ft's to Boston's 20...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 11, 2011, 08:43:47 PM
Did the heat just win the finals?... What's worse is that they'll make the finals. There's no way the bulls will beat them
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 11, 2011, 09:04:23 PM
I'm not really a big fan of Lebron James but that was a classy gesture by him in his little interview, giving the respect to that old ass Celtic team.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 11, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
Did the heat just win the finals?... What's worse is that they'll make the finals. There's no way the bulls will beat them
I understand the Heat will get every call vs the Bulls and probably win that series BUT isn't Chicago 4-0 vs Miami this year?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 11, 2011, 09:13:37 PM
i wonder how Zac Randolph got the league to waive the 3 second rule for him? i know it's not really enforced anyway but usually there will be a couple token calls.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 11, 2011, 09:21:17 PM
Yeah there's nothing about that series to make me think that someone wanted Miami to advance.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Loma on May 11, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
If nothing else, it is fun to listen to the excitement of teh OKC Thunder crowd.  The DJ is spinning records too.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 12, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
Ron Higgins hits the nail on the head in this article:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/may/12/analysis-grizzlies-barely-have-outside-shot-thunde/ (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/may/12/analysis-grizzlies-barely-have-outside-shot-thunde/)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 12, 2011, 11:46:24 AM
All this talk of OKC, Memphis, Chicago, Miami and Atlanta makes me giggle.

Lakers v Celtics in the finals again. Kobe gets ring 6 and Phil gets his fourth three peat.

no heart heat are going to lose game four as well.  they'll fold like a cheap tent when that happens.  james has the heart of an amoeba.  he's a quitter.

Based on the premise that a 6-game series with a triple-overtime game could be classified as "prison rape"...you guys are dumbasses.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 12, 2011, 12:56:48 PM

Ron Higgins hits the nail on the head in this article:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/may/12/analysis-grizzlies-barely-have-outside-shot-thunde/ (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/may/12/analysis-grizzlies-barely-have-outside-shot-thunde/)

I'll be curious what Randolph has in the tank for Game 6. Besides the triple overtime game, it looks like the Thunder have slowly worn him out by throwing a fresh body at him at all times. I still don't feel that comfortable about the series. One win for the Grizz and just like that there's a Game 7 with all the pressure back on the Thunder and who knows what Westbrook will do in a game like that.


The NBA can't be too happy that the Western Conference Finals wont even consist of a team west of the Rocky Mountains.


If nothing else, it is fun to listen to the excitement of teh OKC Thunder crowd.  The DJ is spinning records too.

I'm glad someone likes DJ Boom. If you're up in "Loud City" (the upper deck/300 level) it's tough to concentrate on the game when he's playing music and constantly yelling "make some noise". If you're sitting in the 100s and 200s level its not bad. And since this is OKC obviously he's white, but does have a detroit background.


http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-6862-fans-fill-the-seats-the-team-hits-the-court-and-dj-boom-brings-the-noise.html (http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-6862-fans-fill-the-seats-the-team-hits-the-court-and-dj-boom-brings-the-noise.html)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 12, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
If the Heat continue to hit shots like they did against the Celts, with people hanging off of them, then they will be da Champs.  They hit some ridiculous, unconscious shots in all 5 games.

Whoever comes from the West is fucked.  One of the biggest factors in any Finals matchup is who has the most Referee protection.  You know, which team's superstars benefit the most from the always-denied protection from the Guys in the formerly striped shirts.

One of the things that always intrigued me about the Bird - Magic Celtic vs Laker matchups was who would ultimately get the calls....it had to be a quandry for the Refs...so many top players to protect, and you cant protect them all.  The cream would rise to the top....and it was always Jabbar.  My gosh, they let him dribble to get his rhythm for that weak-ass hook shot after a foul...part of the continuation.  If Parish breathed on him it was a foul.

The Heat have D Wade....protected. The Heat have LeBron...protected maybe to a degree never seen before, including Jordan.  You know, if he even twitches towards the hoop someone gets a foul called on them.  However many steps he chooses to take in a drive before a dribble....well, the "NBA as the WWE" factor says for that stretch of time, that is the rule.

NO ONE in the West has a player even close to being protected like those two.  Whoever comes out of the West is fucked, literally and figuratively.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 12, 2011, 02:24:45 PM
snorts in the nba the home team gets the calls....yeah lebron and dwade get their fair share but trust me, pierce rose kobe etc....are much the beneficiary of home court offificiating.  paul pierce travels almost everytime he touches it. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 12, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
If the Heat continue to hit shots like they did against the Celts, with people hanging off of them, then they will be da Champs.  They hit some ridiculous, unconscious shots in all 5 games.

Whoever comes from the West is fucked.  One of the biggest factors in any Finals matchup is who has the most Referee protection.  You know, which team's superstars benefit the most from the always-denied protection from the Guys in the formerly striped shirts.

One of the things that always intrigued me about the Bird - Magic Celtic vs Laker matchups was who would ultimately get the calls....it had to be a quandry for the Refs...so many top players to protect, and you cant protect them all.  The cream would rise to the top....and it was always Jabbar.  My gosh, they let him dribble to get his rhythm for that weak-ass hook shot after a foul...part of the continuation.  If Parish breathed on him it was a foul.

The Heat have D Wade....protected. The Heat have LeBron...protected maybe to a degree never seen before, including Jordan.  You know, if he even twitches towards the hoop someone gets a foul called on them. However many steps he chooses to take in a drive before a dribble....well, the "NBA as the WWE" factor says for that stretch of time, that is the rule.

NO ONE in the West has a player even close to being protected like those two.  Whoever comes out of the West is fucked, literally and figuratively.

The no call on Lebron's 3 steps and double dribble into his highlight dunk were an embarrassment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSH5sSg-444 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSH5sSg-444)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 12, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
The no call on Lebron's 3 steps and double dribble into his highlight dunk were an embarrassment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSH5sSg-444 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSH5sSg-444)


Agreed. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 12, 2011, 06:26:11 PM
The no call on Lebron's 3 steps and double dribble into his highlight dunk were an embarrassment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSH5sSg-444 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSH5sSg-444)

Can you please post the game tying bucket before they went into overtime?  I no speaki computer.  But if you are into major no calls, this one is A+.  I still can't believe it and I didn't even have money on the game.

EDIT: Here it is at the 2:30 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwCjHloLnI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwCjHloLnI)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 12, 2011, 09:00:40 PM
Hawks are cooked.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 12, 2011, 10:09:37 PM
Wow.  Had I been a Hawks season ticket holder, I possibly would have thrown down my drink in disgust and walked out.  That was a pitiful display, or at least the last 15 minutes of the game I got to watch after getting home.

The goal is to win a championship and the Hawks are at least 2 huge rungs down the ladder still.  If I'm the GM - I explain to Joe that he's making the kind of money that real stars get in the NBA.  Real NBA stars take games over and don't shrink away and dish the ball at every double team.   You don't think Iverson and Jordan and Kobe got double teamed? 

I'd trade Josh Smith away for a real big man.  That guy's game needs to be in the paint only - using that remarkable athletic ability to rebound, get stickbacks and lay down thunderous dunks.  Every time that kid launches another jumper from 20', I'd explain to him that a kitten dies.  Horford is a nice guy who doesn't have the size that he needs in those matchups. 

The Hawks need a real PG.  They need someone to be the leader of the team... and they need some sort of girthy big man.  They don't need Dwight Howard, hell, they would upgrade a ton just by getting the 2008 version of Ilgauskas or something like that.   
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 12, 2011, 10:17:22 PM
Wow.  Had I been a Hawks season ticket holder, I possibly would have thrown down my drink in disgust and walked out.  That was a pitiful display, or at least the last 15 minutes of the game I got to watch after getting home.

The goal is to win a championship and the Hawks are at least 2 huge rungs down the ladder still.  If I'm the GM - I explain to Joe that he's making the kind of money that real stars get in the NBA.  Real NBA stars take games over and don't shrink away and dish the ball at every double team.   You don't think Iverson and Jordan and Kobe got double teamed? 

I'd trade Josh Smith away for a real big man.  That guy's game needs to be in the paint only - using that remarkable athletic ability to rebound, get stickbacks and lay down thunderous dunks.  Every time that kid launches another jumper from 20', I'd explain to him that a kitten dies.  Horford is a nice guy who doesn't have the size that he needs in those matchups. 

The Hawks need a real PG.  They need someone to be the leader of the team... and they need some sort of girthy big man.  They don't need Dwight Howard, Starkville, they would upgrade a ton just by getting the 2008 version of Ilgauskas or something like that.   

Pretty sure you saw the whole game/series.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 13, 2011, 09:09:16 AM
snorts in the nba the home team gets the calls....yeah lebron and dwade get their fair share but trust me, pierce rose kobe etc....are much the beneficiary of home court offificiating.  paul pierce travels almost everytime he touches it. 

I do not disagree.  Pierce walks everytime he gets the ball, that is true.  Nearly everyone in the NBA does.  What and when and why the Rooferees decide to call THAT walk is beyond me.  Or, why THAT 3 second violation got a whistle....completely arbitrary, and usually based on if a protected player is at fault or not. 

Of course, it is not the players at fault.  They will do what the rooferees let them get by with.  Oh, and Joe-Kim Noah (the chick) sets something like 30 illegal screens a game....no call.  Crazy.

All that said, my point was, the above, Rose, Kobe, Pierce..get the calls at home and on the road.  And Miami has more of them than anyone.  If they get by the Bulls, the Eastern team will have two players that the rooferees protect as if they were related.  The Western offering will have zero.

 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 13, 2011, 11:10:46 AM
I do not disagree.  Pierce walks everytime he gets the ball, that is true.  Nearly everyone in the NBA does.  What and when and why the Rooferees decide to call THAT walk is beyond me.  Or, why THAT 3 second violation got a whistle....completely arbitrary, and usually based on if a protected player is at fault or not. 

Of course, it is not the players at fault.  They will do what the rooferees let them get by with.  Oh, and Joe-Kim Noah (the chick) sets something like 30 illegal screens a game....no call.  Crazy.

All that said, my point was, the above, Rose, Kobe, Pierce..get the calls at home and on the road.  And Miami has more of them than anyone.  If they get by the Bulls, the Eastern team will have two players that the rooferees protect as if they were related.  The Western offering will have zero.

 

on the video above, where lebron puts the heat up 86-84, he took 4 steps.  not 2 1/2, not 3, but 4.   :stunned:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on May 13, 2011, 11:34:54 AM
Hawks are cooked.

Yeah they looked tired last year and just sort of uninterested this season. Joe gets locked down by a physical defender who often times has another guy spying to come over to help and his game is just hurt by it. He would be a lot better playing in a system that has a big man commanding double teams...but those guys don't grow on trees.

Losing Heinrich to injury didn't help matters...I wasn't convinced he was much of an upgrade over Bibby but certainly his production not being there hurt the Hawks. The young point guard did produce some decent numbers but they could have used a veteran point guard in the playoffs.

What happened to Marvin Williams? He looked like the type of player that was going to start producing but I didn't see much of him in the Bulls series...I'm sure he was out there...I think Deng just swallowed him up.

Overall the Hawks need to send Josh Smith packing and perhaps Williams as well. Smith gives you decent production but the guy thinks he's George Gervin.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 13, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
Yeah they looked tired last year and just sort of uninterested this season. Joe gets locked down by a physical defender who often times has another guy spying to come over to help and his game is just hurt by it. He would be a lot better playing in a system that has a big man commanding double teams...but those guys don't grow on trees.

Losing Heinrich to injury didn't help matters...I wasn't convinced he was much of an upgrade over Bibby but certainly his production not being there hurt the Hawks. The young point guard did produce some decent numbers but they could have used a veteran point guard in the playoffs.

What happened to Marvin Williams? He looked like the type of player that was going to start producing but I didn't see much of him in the Bulls series...I'm sure he was out there...I think Deng just swallowed him up.

Overall the Hawks need to send Josh Smith packing and perhaps Williams as well. Smith gives you decent production but the guy thinks he's George Gervin.



losing Heinrich was huge because they pretty much picked him up to guard Jameer Nelson and Derrick Rose.

the Hawks are just too loose. when it works it's beautiful but when they have to grind against a determined defense they break down and don't have a counter strategy. pretty much the whole offense is 3 guys standing around while Joe Johnson creates or Jamal Crawford fires jump shots. didn't help that Horford suddenly lost the jump shot that he killed the Magic with.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 13, 2011, 05:55:44 PM


Overall the Hawks need to send Josh Smith packing and perhaps Williams as well. Smith gives you decent production but the guy thinks he's George Gervin.


I would think Smith would bring great value.  He's been hyped up by the media plenty and has a hell of a highlight reel.  He could be the star with some desperate team and it isn't like the Hawks need to get a All Star center in return for him who is bringing 25 pts a night.   
That Aussie kid that plays for the Bucks or Timberwolves would be a great trade for the Hawks. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 13, 2011, 07:19:35 PM
Go Grizz!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 13, 2011, 11:18:13 PM
Game 7 Sunday bitchez.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 13, 2011, 11:51:04 PM
Yeah they looked tired last year and just sort of uninterested this season. Joe gets locked down by a physical defender who often times has another guy spying to come over to help and his game is just hurt by it. He would be a lot better playing in a system that has a big man commanding double teams...but those guys don't grow on trees.

Losing Heinrich to injury didn't help matters...I wasn't convinced he was much of an upgrade over Bibby but certainly his production not being there hurt the Hawks. The young point guard did produce some decent numbers but they could have used a veteran point guard in the playoffs.

What happened to Marvin Williams? He looked like the type of player that was going to start producing but I didn't see much of him in the Bulls series...I'm sure he was out there...I think Deng just swallowed him up.

Overall the Hawks need to send Josh Smith packing and perhaps Williams as well. Smith gives you decent production but the guy thinks he's George Gervin.



I watched parts (sure, only parts) of 3 games between the Hawks and Bulls, and I didn't even remember that Williams played for the Hawks.  For a #2 pick, that shows he needs to go.

He, James Hardin, and the dude on the Raptors (Bargnani?) ALL show that teams need to quit picking on "potential" and start picking on production.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 14, 2011, 06:03:33 PM
I watched parts (sure, only parts) of 3 games between the Hawks and Bulls, and I didn't even remember that Williams played for the Hawks.  For a #2 pick, that shows he needs to go.

He, James Hardin, and the dude on the Raptors (Bargnani?) ALL show that teams need to quit picking on "potential" and start picking on production.



Hardin averaged 19 points over two college seasons before he was drafted.  Thats pretty good production.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 14, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
Hardin averaged 19 points over two college seasons before he was drafted.  Thats pretty good production.

Thats what hes saying.

Hardin scares the crap out of me. He is the X factor tomorrow.

Id also like to mention that I hate Russell Westbrook.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 15, 2011, 11:42:48 AM
Gameday. Go grizz
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 15, 2011, 01:00:10 PM
Go Grizz!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 15, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
Go Grizz!

threved
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 15, 2011, 03:47:06 PM
I really did think OKC would rampage on the Grizz, but this has been a fantastic series.

Now I just need the Thunder to finish it, Mayan style.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 15, 2011, 06:40:23 PM
As long as the Heat dont win, Ill be satisfied.

I really think Memphis could have pulled the series out with Gay in the line up. The didnt have enough of a consistent outside threat to keep the Thunder honest on Randolph.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 15, 2011, 07:19:31 PM
Lebron gets fouled as he's catching the ball and they give him continuation and free throws.  Frick that noise  :bird:

Edit: Heat getting away with a lot.  Borderline (or blatant) walking.  Lebron lowering a shoulder into Rose who has his feet set.  Even with all that, this is still a close game.  Hope the Bulls can wear them downin the 4th again.

They have called 3 team fouls against the Heat already (1 to go in the first), 2 against Lebron.  It's the Bulls gameplan.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 15, 2011, 07:37:47 PM
Ronnie Brewer sighting.  Did you know he broke his elbow as a kid and that's why his jumpshot looks funny?  Thought I'd throw that out there....
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 15, 2011, 07:41:24 PM
Congrats to OKC and their fans. Well deserved and I'll be pulling for them the rest of the way.

I was terrified of Durant before game 6 because I figured he'd take over and do it himself. He failed. I was even more terrified going into today because he's too good not to show up 2 games in a row. I was right this time.

Regardless, Memphis is an actual NBA team now. They HAVE to keep the best Gasol for next year, the rest of the team stays intact. Rudy coming back makes this team a darkhorse title contender. Now they just have to have the drive and desire to work hard and play next year.

All heart. Grit. Grind.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 15, 2011, 07:56:11 PM
Heat are allowed to play 6 on 5  :stunned:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 15, 2011, 08:35:23 PM
Gibson prostaterized Wade. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 15, 2011, 09:08:39 PM
Ronnie Brewer representin well.  Has everybody heard the story about his elbow?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 15, 2011, 09:31:40 PM
Ronnie Brewer representin well.  Has everybody heard the story about his elbow?
I heard he hurt it backing out of his driveway with his wife chasing him with a golf club, hit a tree and flipped his ride.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 15, 2011, 09:37:34 PM
HO-LE-SHIT.

That follow-dunk by Gibson near the end was one of the most impressive dunks I have seen in a while. 

Heat got fucked up.

Bosch got 30 points, and the Heat got beaten by 20+.  The Bulls are the team to beat this year.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: wolowitz on May 15, 2011, 09:51:36 PM
Ronnie's all growed up now. Dayum.  :beer:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 15, 2011, 10:42:42 PM
Heat double teamed Rose all night. Problem is, he's good enough to find the open man. Single team him, and he's going to the basket and you can't stop him. Big 3 were the Big 1 tonight. Wade was exhausted in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 16, 2011, 06:05:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmN-MIbvLks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmN-MIbvLks)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 16, 2011, 07:00:54 AM
Miami vs OKC was a really good series.  Fun to watch, both teams took it to the other, no quarter asked or given.  The lack of big name super duper stars was also refreshing.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 16, 2011, 10:40:18 AM
Miami Memphis vs OKC was a really good series.  Fun to watch, both teams took it to the other, no quarter asked or given.  The lack of big name super duper stars was also refreshing.

fixt
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ColdPork on May 16, 2011, 11:12:54 AM
Turn your face Bosh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62fzZTMjVOo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62fzZTMjVOo&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Loma on May 16, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
HO-LE-SHIT.

That follow-dunk by Gibson near the end was one of the most impressive dunks I have seen in a while. 

Heat got fucked up.

Bosch got 30 points, and the Heat got beaten by 20+.  The Bulls are the team to beat this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOOeMg7eqYM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOOeMg7eqYM)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 16, 2011, 02:33:01 PM
you may also remember taj gibson as the guy that scored 1000 on us in the NCAA tournament when he was at USC including about 45 dunks on Steven Hill.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ColdPork on May 16, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
you may also remember taj gibson as the guy that scored 1000 on us in the NCAA tournament when he was at USC including about 45 dunks on Steven Hill.

Wade will remember his junk in his face

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201105/110516.07.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: LaMoHog on May 16, 2011, 03:15:55 PM
HO-LE-aMm.

That follow-dunk by Gibson near the end was one of the most impressive dunks I have seen in a while.  

Heat got fricked up.

Bosch got 30 points, and the Heat got beaten by 20+.  The Bulls are the team to beat this year.

My girl was yapping about something and I interrupted her with "Holy aMm!" after that one. I won't be a father nine months from now. EDIT - Or it won't be mine anyways.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 16, 2011, 03:50:05 PM
I'll go ahead and apologize now  :notexas:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ColdPork on May 16, 2011, 07:10:50 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg611/scaled.php?tn=0&server=611&filename=f6nhq.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Ronnie's big dunk of the night
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: APhiOHog on May 16, 2011, 07:14:47 PM
That ain't even the right dunk, brah.

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/05/299946102-big.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: clintcommander on May 16, 2011, 07:15:19 PM
What's the deal with 6 players on the floor.  Missed the game, but I keep hearing this come up.

Mah googlin' skillz are weak.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 16, 2011, 09:05:20 PM
Heat had a player waiting to check in who ran on the court when no one else ran off.  Didn't make an impact on the game, the refs just figured it out and made him go back to the scorers table.  Should have been a technical, that part is written in black and white.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on May 17, 2011, 09:38:43 AM
Nice to see the Bulls relevant again hopefully they can keep it going.


I'm not even remotely excited about the Mavs/Thunder although it should be an entertaining series I just don't follow any of those players.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 17, 2011, 08:47:19 PM
Nice to see the Bulls relevant again hopefully they can keep it going.


I'm not even remotely excited about the Mavs/Thunder although it should be an entertaining series I just don't follow any of those players.

It has started out pretty good.  I think it could be a really good series, a complete scorefest. Dirk and Durant are really the best scorers in the league.  They make shots from anywhere on the court.  I am starting to think Durant is probably better than Lebron, maybe Kobe too.  He is good.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 17, 2011, 09:01:04 PM
Frick that skinny ass TexasOkie Durant kid straight in the mouth.... and frick Blake Griffin too while we are at it.  Fuck Big Twelvers. 

I hope the Kraut rolls up 99 points on OKC. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 17, 2011, 09:15:27 PM
don't forget westbrook. not a big twelver but something about that dude screams "punk ass bitch"
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 17, 2011, 09:40:06 PM
don't forget westbrook. not a big twelver but something about that dude screams "punk ass bitch"


You arr in trouble when someone with the hiv can call you out on your decision making
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 17, 2011, 10:50:25 PM
I'm sure my bias is showing, but there's been a lot of fouls called against the Thunder when guarding Dirk that's complete bullshit. It doesn't help when you get done playing a series where anything goes in the paint, but this shit is ridiculous. If the series is called by European basketball style standards there's no way the Thunder will win.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 17, 2011, 10:56:41 PM
Meanwhile, Westbrook and Durant have 36 FT attempts between them. I'm sure all those were legit fouls as well.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 17, 2011, 11:10:30 PM
I'm sure my bias is showing, but there's been a lot of fouls called against the Thunder when guarding Dirk that's complete bullshit. It doesn't help when you get done playing a series where anything goes in the paint, but this aMm is ridiculous. If the series is called by European basketball style standards there's no way the Thunder will win.

Ticky-tack? Maybe. NOT fouls. Bullshit.

The game was horrible, though. There's nothing worse than a game with almost 100 ft's.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 17, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Ticky-tack? Maybe. NOT fouls. Bullshit.

The game was horrible, though. There's nothing worse than a game with almost 100 ft's.

I'll agree with that. I'm fine with Dirk getting the benefit of the doubt when going to the basket or on his shot fakes, but when you can't battle for position on the blocks with him, there's no way to guard him.

Even with the officiating what he did was impressive tonight. Shooting like a combined 98% from the field and ft line is unheard of.

With Durant's free throw attempts, obviously he'll get some calls like Dirk will, but I thought he did a good job of attacking the rim.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 17, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
I think it's retarded to "battle" dirk for position.  The risk isn't anywhere NEAR being worth the reward.  Oh. You pushed him out to 16 ft instead of 12 ft? It doesn't matter.  Just play him man up and hope he's having a poor shooting game.  He's too good of a player at this point to let him create opportunities for his teammates, which is what really drives the Mavs success. 

I'll go out on a limb and say dirk doesn't get more than 15 ft attempts in a game the rest of this series.  This crew was being overly zealous with the whistles all game, which is the only thing that enables Dirk to shoot THAT many ft's.  HOWEVER, these fouls are absolutely the same kind of fouls that Dirk rarely gets the benefit of the doubt from.  If fouls were called by the book, Dirk would have a much higher career FTA average.  He gets hit on the body/forearm consistently, but it's like the refs ignore it because he's a "big guy" and should be able to play through it.

But I digress...The mavs need to get more help from Kidd to win.  What you saw from Terry, Dirk, and Marion was about right.  But I don't like where Kidd's head is right now.  He's turning the ball over and afraid to take open shots.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 18, 2011, 07:47:12 AM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 18, 2011, 07:59:34 AM
I'm sure my bias is showing, but there's been a lot of fouls called against the Thunder when guarding Dirk that's complete bullshit. It doesn't help when you get done playing a series where anything goes in the paint, but this shit is ridiculous. If the series is called by European basketball style standards there's no way the Thunder will win.

You do realize Westbrook shot 18 free throws and Durant shot 19 last night don't you?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 18, 2011, 08:09:08 AM
the Mavs are ridiculously deep and Caron Butler is in street clothes.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 18, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
the Mavs are ridiculously deep and Caron Butler is in street clothes.

and he lit the Thunder up in the 1 or 2 games he played against the Thunder this year.

Going into the Series I didn't expect the Thunder to win the series and obviously I still don't think they can win it, just hoping for it to go 6 or 7 games. They have no one to guard Dirk. Durant is too skinny, Perkins too slow, Collison too small, and Serge is too young.



But I digress...The mavs need to get more help from Kidd to win.  What you saw from Terry, Dirk, and Marion was about right.  But I don't like where Kidd's head is right now.  He's turning the ball over and afraid to take open shots.

I think I'd take Kidd's mindset over Westbrook. Neither one are good shooters, except Westbrook thinks he is. Sometimes the regular season numbers don't lie and this is one of them. Although it looks like Westbrook should have an advantage over a Mav defender his shooting percentage against them is worse than his regular below average percentage. And let's not get into all of his pouting.



Rant over...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 18, 2011, 01:04:41 PM
There's an excellent chance both series go 7.

I would be lying if I said I know who will win either.

So would you.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 18, 2011, 02:46:49 PM
There's an excellent chance both series go 7.

I would be lying if I said I know who will win either.

So would you.
If the Bulls win tonight that series is over. They would then own the Heat this season to the tune of a 5-0 record. It would be very difficult to see Miami somehow turning that around and winning 4 of the next 5.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 18, 2011, 07:39:24 PM
Game 2 about to start.  I can not take Spoelstra seriously.  Seriously, the dude looks like he should still be in high school.

Bulls are gonna win it again tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 18, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
Bulls on a 17-6 run midway through the 4th to tie the game.  Heat have been riding Haslem too long.....they need some fresh players to finish this one.  Bulls are still going strong.  The announcers are starting to question Spoelstra for not resting Haslem.  They're playing like they HAVE to have this game......they do.

Gawddammit, Deng won't hold on to the fricking ball.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 18, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
The Bulls play some stifling defense but their offense down the stretch needed to be something more beside Derek Rose just making shit up.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 18, 2011, 10:27:22 PM
Their offense would have been helped if Korver wasn't cold as ice and if Deng wasn't a turnover waiting to happen. I bet they split the Miami games.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 18, 2011, 10:34:39 PM
lebron was big time.  best player in the league...and now he seeems to be finishing shit to appease the haters.  haslem was big.  if he was healthy, this would be over already
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 20, 2011, 08:54:51 AM
i hope you guys got to see that game last night. that is how you ball, both teams. i could watch these two teams play every night.

Scott Brooks gained a lot of respect from me last night by leaving Westbrook on the bench the whole 4th. Not sure it was the best strategy but damn ballsy.

Probably the only real gripe I have with the reffing right now in the league is the fast break lay-up phantom foul. Dirk had a 3 point-play last night from a foul call and wasn't even touched. Durant just sort of waived at him on the way by. That shit drives me crazy. I understand why they do it, sort of a league policy to protect players elevating to the rim but if there's no contact, the ref's shouldn't assume a foul.

I guess a sort of secondary complaint is the foul call when the defender goes for a pump fake. I think to get that foul call the offensive player should have to get into the defender when they are in the air and actually earn a foul. I don't really like it when they let the defender land next to them and then just sort of lean in and chuck the ball.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 20, 2011, 09:30:02 AM
If Durant didn't tumble into the photographers after being fouled I'd say his dunk was better than Gibson's.

(http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/files/2011/05/durant-haywood-dunk-game-2.jpg)



Right now people aren't sure if Westbrook was actually benched for being a little bitch when Brooks pulled him at the end of the third or if Brooks was sticking with a group that had a nice rhythm. I thought the decision made sense because Harden was playing good and it kept him as the second option. Westbrook wasn't playing bad during the game, but he still hasn't realized that this team is at its best when he is aggressive and looks to get others involved. Since having a triple double in game 7 didn't work, maybe the benching will. I am curious how everything will play out.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 21, 2011, 09:56:46 PM
Oh my God, they just called a technical on Chandler for an elbow in Harden's face.  The problem is, Harden ran into Chandler to initiate the contact, and multiple slow motion replays showed there was no contact.  None, nada, nothing.  I hope Harden gets his ass fined for that flop.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 21, 2011, 09:59:11 PM
Oh my God, they just called a technical on Chandler for an elbow in Harden's face.  The problem is, Harden ran into Chandler to initiate the contact, and multiple slow motion replays showed there was no contact.  None, nada, nothing.  I hope Harden gets his ass fined for that flop.
He has a future in pro wrestling.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shithead on May 21, 2011, 10:50:56 PM
If Durant didn't tumble into the photographers after being fouled I'd say his dunk was better than Gibson's.

(http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/files/2011/05/durant-haywood-dunk-game-2.jpg)



Right now people aren't sure if Westbrook was actually benched for being a little bitch when Brooks pulled him at the end of the third or if Brooks was sticking with a group that had a nice rhythm. I thought the decision made sense because Harden was playing good and it kept him as the second option. Westbrook wasn't playing bad during the game, but he still hasn't realized that this team is at its best when he is aggressive and looks to get others involved. Since having a triple double in game 7 didn't work, maybe the benching will. I am curious how everything will play out.

After watching Westbrook for more than a passing moment tonight, I am now convinced that he is nothing more than an uber-talented Gary Ervin. While he has all the skills in the world, I still expect to see him run headlong into a brick wall... just because it's there, and to prove to Brooks that he can do it. Just go ahead and slap the retard-helmet on him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on May 22, 2011, 09:26:54 AM
He has a future in pro wrestling.

and after Friday there's an opening!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 22, 2011, 03:12:52 PM
After watching Westbrook for more than a passing moment tonight, I am now convinced that he is nothing more than an uber-talented Gary Ervin. While he has all the skills in the world, I still expect to see him run headlong into a brick wall... just because it's there, and to prove to Brooks that he can do it. Just go ahead and slap the retard-helmet on him.

He's very talented, no doubt.  But he's NOT a point guard.  I LOVE to see him going off.  I'll take westbrook scoring 30 over Durant any day. He dominates the ball every possession.  i don't know how anyone can be a fan of such ugly basketball.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 22, 2011, 03:19:40 PM
Westbrook gets wild at times, no doubt about it.  Many 22-year-old guards do.  It definitely costs the Thunder games from time to time, and I hope he grows out of that shit, the sooner the better.

But Gary Ervin?  Get the fuck out of here.  Remind me which year it was that Ervin averaged 22-8-5 while going to the Final Four?  I seem to forget.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shithead on May 22, 2011, 04:33:13 PM
Westbrook gets wild at times, no doubt about it.  Many 22-year-old guards do.  It definitely costs the Thunder games from time to time, and I hope he grows out of that aMm, the sooner the better.

But Gary Ervin?  Get the frick out of here.  Remind me which year it was that Ervin averaged 22-8-5 while going to the Final Four?  I seem to forget.

My exact quote was "uber-talented Gary Ervin" and that pretty much describes the player you're talking about above. No doubt, he can do shit that Ervin couldn't dream of, but completely evolved into Ervin over 3 or 4 consecutive trips in the 4th where he did shit that conjured up the full-retardedness that Gary used to pull on a regular basis.

I'm not saying he's a shitty player. Far from it. But he does display a metric fuckton of the same decision-making qualities.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 23, 2011, 01:18:13 PM
As frustrating as it is to watch the offense get stagnant when Westbrook dribbles for 15-20 seconds to then shoot a jumper, all three games in this series have been determined by bench production.


I guess this means Noah isn't gay. Who would've known...

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6579408 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6579408)

Television cameras captured Noah saying an expletive, followed by the slur toward a fan midway through the first quarter. Noah later apologized for getting "caught up" in the exchange, adding that he meant "no disrespect" to anyone.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 23, 2011, 02:58:14 PM
As frustrating as it is to watch the offense get stagnant when Westbrook dribbles for 15-20 seconds to then shoot a jumper, all three games in this series have been determined by bench production.

The benches wouldn't be AS big of a factor of Westbrook was a better PG.  The Thunder would be up 3-0 if Westbrook could get his team involved.  That would be a lethal group.  My nightmare as a Mavs fan would be Westbrook breaking down Kidd/Barea/Stevenson off of the dribble, our defense collapsing, and him repeatedly finding Harden or Durant for wide open 3's. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on May 23, 2011, 05:04:53 PM
The benches wouldn't be AS big of a factor of Westbrook was a better PG.  The Thunder would be up 3-0 if Westbrook could get his team involved.  That would be a lethal group.  My nightmare as a Mavs fan would be Westbrook breaking down Kidd/Barea/Stevenson off of the dribble, our defense collapsing, and him repeatedly finding Harden or Durant for wide open 3's. 

That would require passing instead of bricking off the front of the rim or dribbling off his foot and out of bounds.

Thank goodness we're safe.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 23, 2011, 05:29:57 PM
Thank goodness we're safe.

Not when Dan Crawford is called in to put a stop to this nonsense.  Mavs look to bring their playoff winning percentage up to 23% in games officiated by Crawford tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 23, 2011, 11:29:35 PM
Amazing comeback by the Mavs.  Somewhat of a redemption from the 2006 NBA finals, game 3, where the Mavs gave up a 13 point lead in similar circumstances.  Dirk just seems to go through these stretches where he says, "Oh yeah. I guess I'll score 10 straight real quick." Amazing how easy he makes it look at times.  The kind of performances he's put up in games 1, 2, and 4 were all pretty special.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 24, 2011, 12:58:00 AM
That was a great finish. Dirk hit some WTF shots down the stretch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 24, 2011, 10:09:48 PM
Lebron, you canNOT simply shove a defender out of the way with your forearm.  Now the game is tied and Chicago has the ball with 8 seconds to go.

Lucky for the Heat the Bulls shat the bed on the last possession.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 25, 2011, 08:41:09 AM
No but you can guard the pseudo MVP, dominate the glass, play point guard, and drop 23 in the 4th qtr and
Ot
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 25, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
You can almost shut him out for parts of the game, but only for a short stretch at a time.  Joakim Noah can stop him in his tracks and Ronnie Brewer did a dang good job on him last night.  Seems like the Bulls forgot concepts like "rotation" or "help-side" on defense last night at times.  The dude's improved his jump shot so much though that if you stay in front of him he can just shoot it over you and all you can do is say good shot.  Kobe has moves, Rose has the speed to step around anybody (Lebron included if he really wants too), but right now Lebron is taking whatever the defense gives him and simply scoring lots of points.  James/Nowitzki is going to be an interesting matchip for sure.  Assuming the Bulls don't win 3 straight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 25, 2011, 03:01:31 PM
maybe i'm just a homer, and i like Ronnie a lot as person, but i swear i remember him killing that 15-20 foot jumper in college, especially off the low curl screen.

i can't for the life of me figure out why he doesn't get more shots up. i think someone in Utah screwed up his shot by trying to "fix" it.

he needs to try to find some offense and help Rose out when he's in the game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: NotoriousPIG on May 25, 2011, 03:31:54 PM
maybe i'm just a homer, and i like Ronnie a lot as person, but i swear i remember him killing that 15-20 foot jumper in college, especially off the low curl screen.

i can't for the life of me figure out why he doesn't get more shots up. i think someone in Utah screwed up his shot by trying to "fix" it.

he needs to try to find some offense and help Rose out when he's in the game.

I think Ronnie knows his role and thats not as a 15-20 foot shooter.  If he's wide open he'll take it but on offense he is pass first guy and maybe pick up some trash points on backdoor cuts and hustle.  I think he works a lot harder on his defense which is what the Bulls have him for.  I would agree that he doesn't look nearly as confident on the offensive end than he did in college but I'll chalk that up to playing with the big boys.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 25, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
I think Ronnie knows his role and thats not as a 15-20 foot shooter.  If he's wide open he'll take it but on offense he is pass first guy and maybe pick up some trash points on backdoor cuts and hustle.  I think he works a lot harder on his defense which is what the Bulls have him for.  I would agree that he doesn't look nearly as confident on the offensive end than he did in college but I'll chalk that up to playing with the big boys.

I tend to agree but Ronnie gave up a dunk to pass it to an ice cold Korver for a 3 in the corner last night.  I bet he and the Bulls wish he had that one back.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 25, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
he's actually a really good passer too, so he's perfect in that role, but every now and then he'll put a move on someone like a Mike Miller and you wonder why he doesn't get more aggressive when he could physically dominate the guy guarding him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 25, 2011, 03:54:01 PM
Mike Brown to coach the Lakers.
 :suicide:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: NotoriousPIG on May 25, 2011, 03:57:32 PM
I tend to agree but Ronnie gave up a dunk to pass it to an ice cold Korver for a 3 in the corner last night.  I bet he and the Bulls wish he had that one back.

Yeah, that was painful to watch.  Announcers called him out on that one.  I wish he had made that And 1 towards the end which could've been the decisive points.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 25, 2011, 04:10:01 PM
Mike Brown to coach the Lakers.
 :suicide:

Kobe had to sign off on this deal. I can't understand this.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 25, 2011, 04:11:50 PM
Mike Brown to coach stand around looking dumbfounded while the Lakers do whatever the hell they want.
 


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: NotoriousPIG on May 25, 2011, 04:21:16 PM
Off topic but this is a cool video about the history of the crossover

 http://nyti.ms/iudQyx (http://nyti.ms/iudQyx)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 25, 2011, 05:07:06 PM
Kobe had to sign off on this deal. I can't understand this.

Obviously Kobe is trying to find ways to motivate himself. The only way to make beating the Heat next year in the Finals more enjoyable is to have Lebron's old coach.   :gritscoon:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 25, 2011, 05:26:16 PM
Obviously Kobe is trying to find ways to motivate himself. The only way to make beating the Heat next year in the Finals more enjoyable is to have Lebron's old coach.   :gritscoon:

I am a Kobe hater, started leaning towards hating on Lebron as of late but there is no fucking way Kobe wins a championship in Cleveland, with the players they have and had.  Coach be damned
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 25, 2011, 05:29:13 PM
I think Ronnie knows his role and thats not as a 15-20 foot shooter.  If he's wide open he'll take it but on offense he is pass first guy and maybe pick up some trash points on backdoor cuts and hustle.  I think he works a lot harder on his defense which is what the Bulls have him for.  I would agree that he doesn't look nearly as confident on the offensive end than he did in college but I'll chalk that up to playing with the big boys.
Maybe there's something wrong with his arm.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 25, 2011, 06:14:33 PM
You people are crazy.  Ronnie never really had that great of a shot in college, he was just an NBA level player playing NCAA ball. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 25, 2011, 07:31:24 PM
You can almost shut him out for parts of the game, but only for a short stretch at a time.  Joakim Noah can stop him in his tracks and Ronnie Brewer did a dang good job on him last night.  Seems like the Bulls forgot concepts like "rotation" or "help-side" on defense last night at times.  The dude's improved his jump shot so much though that if you stay in front of him he can just shoot it over you and all you can do is say good shot.  Kobe has moves, Rose has the speed to step around anybody (Lebron included if he really wants too), but right now Lebron is taking whatever the defense gives him and simply scoring lots of points.  James/Nowitzki is going to be an interesting matchip for sure.  Assuming the Bulls don't win 3 straight.
So your saying in the conf finals, Rose's team is down a game, about to be two games, and rose didnt really want to get around James?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 25, 2011, 07:58:03 PM
I'm saying Rose was wore the frick out, and getting around James would have been pointless with Bosh and Anthony waiting on either side of the rim for him.  They had nothing set up other than just having Rose run around and throw it up.  Pointless.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 25, 2011, 08:10:03 PM
I'm saying Rose was wore the frick out, and getting around James would have been pointless with Bosh and Anthony waiting on either side of the rim for him.  They had nothing set up other than just having Rose run around and throw it up.  Pointless.
Rose is a good player, but there was no doubt where the ball was going on that last play. Miami has several options for a last play. Chicago has to go out and get him some help.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 25, 2011, 08:46:19 PM
In the most non-Hog-homer way I can say this, Joe Johnson really would have been a huge addition to this Bulls team.  With Joe playing, they would have maybe been up on the Heat right now.

I don't know if they need a Nick Van Exel "instant offense" guy but they do need someone who is a scorer more than anything else - they've got guys all over that team that can play lock down defense.  Their window of opportunity is just starting to open but they need to get a guy quick out of free agency. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: PorkRyan on May 25, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
What Dirk is doing in the playoffs is legendary. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 26, 2011, 12:44:53 AM
What Dirk is doing in the playoffs is legendary. 

But only legendary if he finishes it off.  Nobody remembers Rolando Blackmon.  Shoot, only a few people remember stockton and/or malone in a way that doesn't include "but no NBA championship."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 26, 2011, 01:06:02 AM
What Dirk is doing in the playoffs is legendary. 
I've been pulling for Dallas the whole playoffs. I don't keep up with the NBA during the season, just a playoff fan. I want Dirk and Kidd to get a ring. Their time is running out and this year is their best chance. Chicago, OKC, and Miami have a lot of chances in the future.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 26, 2011, 01:20:59 AM
But only legendary if he finishes it off.  Nobody remembers Rolando Blackmon.  Shoot, only a few people remember stockton and/or malone in a way that doesn't include "but no NBA championship."

To be fair, most people are retarded.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 26, 2011, 07:29:19 AM
I am a Kobe hater, started leaning towards hating on Lebron as of late but there is no fucking way Kobe wins a championship in Cleveland, with the players they have and had.  Coach be damned

The same thing can be said for Lebron.  The only difference being you assume Kobe couldn't win. We know Lebron couldn't.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 26, 2011, 08:24:32 AM
What season was it Kobe won a title without huge support?  Oh, that's right, none of them.

When did he get to the finals without huge support?  Never?  Oh yeah, that was LeBron.  But Kobe might have won a title in Cleveland, since the record shows he's so good without other All-Stars to help and everything.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 26, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
Jason Kidd is like a infinitely wise basketball wizard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on May 26, 2011, 08:29:17 AM
You people are crazy.  Ronnie never really had that great of a shot in college, he was just an NBA level player playing NCAA ball. 

raisins! but yeah, you're probably right. nostalgia.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on May 26, 2011, 08:49:20 AM
I don't know why I bother watching the first 44 minutes of any NBA game, regular season or playoff.  I've gone to bed/switched off games the past several nights only to wake up the next morning and see the trailing team won.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 26, 2011, 08:58:20 AM
And another tough loss to swallow as a thunder fan. The team just hasn't figured out how to close games in the playoffs. They actually struggled in closing games out against the Nugs and Grizz, but those teams didn't have two hall of famers. I won't even get into the inconsistency by each player in this series. That would result in an Animal-esque post.

I do think the Thunder are in a better position than the Bulls for the future. Thunder players still have room for improvement, but if you look at the Bulls roster, except for Rose and maybe Noah, everyone has already maxed out their ability.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 26, 2011, 10:48:33 AM
And another tough loss to swallow as a thunder fan. The team just hasn't figured out how to close games in the playoffs. They actually struggled in closing games out against the Nugs and Grizz, but those teams didn't have two hall of famers. I won't even get into the inconsistency by each player in this series. That would result in an Animal-esque post.

I have hopes the Mavs can pull off the impossible and beat the superfriends in the finals, but the Mavs definitely won't be favored.  So while I feel for the Thunder fans, you don't know the pain I know. Haha. I'm going on at over 20 years as a Mavs fan. The best memories don't include a championship. :(

I do think the Thunder are in a better position than the Bulls for the future. Thunder players still have room for improvement, but if you look at the Bulls roster, except for Rose and maybe Noah, everyone has already maxed out their ability.

OKC should be the favorite to return to the WCF for the next decade if they can keep their nucleus together and continue to grow/mature.  It's scary how good they are for being so young.  Keep Durant, Westbrook (Unless they can somehow trade for someone like Chris Paul/Deron Williams), Harden, and Ibaka together.  Surround them with good glue guys like Collison.  Then just relax and watch their maturation.   They might not get to the Finals now, but I just don't see any team in the West being able to match their athleticism, talent, and youth for the next 5 years.  You never know what will happen with trades/free agency, but OKC is primed for a long run of success if they can keep their nucleus.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ColdPork on May 26, 2011, 12:51:19 PM
Brewer expects to win tonight

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/cbsports-the-chicago-bulls-ronnie-brewer-we-expect-to-win-game-5-againt-the-miami-heat-20110526,0,1128236.story?track=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/cbsports-the-chicago-bulls-ronnie-brewer-we-expect-to-win-game-5-againt-the-miami-heat-20110526,0,1128236.story?track=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on May 26, 2011, 12:53:14 PM
I don't know why I bother watching the first 44 minutes of any NBA game, regular season or playoff.  I've gone to bed/switched off games the past several nights only to wake up the next morning and see the trailing team won.

You're not the only one.
 >:(
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shortstop6 on May 26, 2011, 12:59:19 PM
So while I feel for the Thunder fans, you don't know the pain I know. Haha. I'm going on at over 20 years as a Mavs fan. The best memories don't include a championship. :(

Moody Madness says, "Hi."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 26, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
What season was it Kobe won a title without huge support?  Oh, that's right, none of them.

When did he get to the finals without huge support?  Never?  Oh yeah, that was LeBron.  But Kobe might have won a title in Cleveland, since the record shows he's so good without other All-Stars to help and everything.

So basically you agree with what I said and you are just butthurt about it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on May 26, 2011, 05:20:52 PM
So basically you agree with what I said and you are just butthurt about it.

Only if you include that Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Marino.  BTW, Kenny Smith is legendary.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 26, 2011, 07:56:36 PM
But only legendary if he finishes it off.  Nobody remembers Rolando Blackmon.  Shoot, only a few people remember stockton and/or malone in a way that doesn't include "but no NBA championship."
I remember Jerry West was finals MVP on a losing team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 26, 2011, 10:10:09 PM
Dang.  Chicago Bulls are chock full of teh FAIL.

That's 2 games that the defense broke down at the end, and Rose failed to hit clutch free throws.  They're called "free" for a reason.  Memphis background came out in him again.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 26, 2011, 10:16:48 PM
I had no idea TNT was re-airing the Mavs vs Thunder series.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 27, 2011, 08:08:02 AM
Yet again, I go to bed thinking the game is over, and yet again a team comes from ahead to lose the game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on May 28, 2011, 11:52:36 PM
Long wait until Tuesday.  I'm ready for it to get here.  Break a leg, Lebron.  No, really.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on May 29, 2011, 11:24:02 PM
I think the Mavs are the better team but they're going to get screwed over again.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 30, 2011, 02:25:04 AM
I think the Mavs are the better team but they're going to get screwed over again.

It'll be a lot harder for refs to screw over guys like Kidd, Marion, Stevenson on playing good defense.  Contrasted with guys like Devin Harris, Josh Howard, and Jerry Stackhouse - we've at least got a much better reputation defensively.  That stuff matters, unfortunately.

I think the Mavs are going to be playing a decent amount of zone this series and hope guys like Bibby/Miller aren't hitting their threes.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 31, 2011, 10:28:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/RjEz0QPjY60&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3 (http://www.youtube.com/v/RjEz0QPjY60&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3)

http://www.youtube.com/v/5rE102IfC98&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3 (http://www.youtube.com/v/5rE102IfC98&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3)

This is gonna end ugly
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 31, 2011, 11:17:31 AM
So what's new?  The protected stars will stay protected. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 31, 2011, 12:22:03 PM
So what's new?  The protected stars will stay protected. 

Good thing no one is better than Dirk at pretending he got fouled.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 31, 2011, 05:19:35 PM
Im talking about the corrupt ref shitting on Stern's cash cow.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on May 31, 2011, 05:48:10 PM
Good thing no one is better than Dirk at pretending he got fouled.

You sure about that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AAM_mdNVek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AAM_mdNVek)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 31, 2011, 07:40:39 PM
As much as everyone talks about Dirk and Kidd finally getting a ring, it'd also be nice for Carlisle to finally win one. I believe he lost a handful of times in the Eastern Conference Finals between his years with the Pistons and Pacers.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jmcwill04 on May 31, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
Good thing no one is better than Dirk at pretending he got fouled.

(http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/boshflop.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2011, 10:00:26 PM
It'll be a lot harder for refs to screw over guys like Kidd, Marion, Stevenson on playing good defense. 

The refs don't seem to be having much trouble. 

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on May 31, 2011, 10:12:53 PM
(http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/boshflop.gif)

Back

and to the left
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on May 31, 2011, 10:21:29 PM
The refs don't seem to be having much trouble. 




This is near unfathomable right now... those calls on Dirk and Chandler on the offensive end just now were un real.... meanwhile, Jet takes a shot with a hand on his lead arm the whole time. No call there.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2011, 10:22:21 PM
Apparently Haslem is the next Jordan.  I haven't seen this many bullshit calls since the hogs fucking in Gainesville.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on May 31, 2011, 10:24:34 PM
LeBron with an easy call for a 4th foul. He could easily have 6 or 7 right now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2011, 10:34:07 PM
Dirk called despite the clean strip. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on May 31, 2011, 10:50:14 PM
I'm not sure it's even worth watching the other games now... they usually extend these things as much as possible, but officials win this in 5 easy.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 31, 2011, 10:54:42 PM
I'm not sure it's even worth watching the other games now... they usually extend these things as much as possible, but officials win this in 5 easy.
I would normally agree BUT I doubt Miami will hit 10 3's in another game in this series nor will Barea go 1-8 on his FGs. Unless the refs turn up the BS even more (which is entirely possible) I think Dallas will win at least 2 and maybe 3.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 01, 2011, 12:24:35 AM
Won't matter.

See Dirk toying with his finger late? Tore a tendon in his middle finger. He'll be wearing a splint.
Without Dirk at 100%, Mavs are done.

Coincidentally, I remember noticing him pawing at his hand immediately after that ridiculous strip that was called a foul by the official's imagination. Probably did it there or just before.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on June 01, 2011, 12:36:55 AM
The refs must have been pretty bad.  Didn't get a chance to watch it, but there's more whining here than in a losing Razorback game thread.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 01, 2011, 08:21:15 AM
They are always bad....they suck both ways.  Marion ran over mike miller and they somehow give him an and one....that is followed by dirk stripping bosh and getting called for a foul.  The heat played great d in the second half.  I didn't watch the first half but the heat were rotating out of their double teams like a mofo.  The only chance Dallas has is for their zone to be effective enough to get a nice lead....otherwise they have no chance. Miami plays defense
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on June 01, 2011, 08:40:14 AM
I'm not going to read this entire thread, so maybe it was already mentioned.  During the second quarter, Lebron stumbles as he's gaining possession of the ball around mid court.  He gains possession and then commences to stand up, looking almost like Otis stumbling around to get up out of the Mayberry jail cell.  No walk is called.  My son, who is a huge Lebron fan chuckles at the no call.  Later in the game, the guy with the Snoop Dog haircut, does the quick shuffle, no more than 2 feet, to get going and he's called for a walk.

The Dirk is so automatic at the free throw line, I keep expecting ABC/ESPN to go to a commercial when he's shooting free throws.

I can't help but wonder what an awesome WR Lebron would make in the NFL.  I hope Miami goes ahead and wins in 4 or 5.  You never know when another Cowboy receiver will get arrested and banned, and Lebron needs a new challenge if he finally gets that ring at the ripe old age of what, 28?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 01, 2011, 10:42:37 AM

I can't help but wonder what an awesome WR Lebron would make in the NFL.  I hope Miami goes ahead and wins in 4 or 5.  You never know when another Cowboy receiver will get arrested and banned, and Lebron needs a new challenge if he finally gets that ring at the ripe old age of what, 28?

We're talking about Lebron James? The same guy who acts like he tore an acl or broke a leg every time he hits the deck or gets fouled hard. The same guy who disappeared last year versus the Celtics after a phantom elbow injury... The first time LBJ gets hit on a football field would be his last because he would have to be carted off of the field.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 01, 2011, 04:19:32 PM
Yeah, James was a top football prospect in high school because he can't take getting hit.

I watched the game and could give two shits for either team, and never thought the officiating was biased either way.  Shitty both ways, yes, but sure as shit not biased.  Bad calls on both ends, both teams.

Then again, I never bought into the whole thing where we're all supposed to hate the Heat because one of their players wasn't nice when he left his last team, so who knows? 

Maybe I'm wrong and Lebron isn't the best and most clutch player in the game, but he's actually a loser who folds under pressure.  Maybe the Heat aren't really good at getting to the line by getting to the right spots and forcing the issue (only Dirk is), they just have the NBA protecting them.

There's really no way of knowing, since I don't even have the common damned sense to view everything through the context of "What Lebron Did".

I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 01, 2011, 08:33:53 PM
Yeah, James was a top football prospect in high school because he can't take getting hit.



Yeah you're right, Lebron probably ran into a lot of guys that look like Ray Lewis when he was catching passes for St. Vincent St. Mary's prep school.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4194437 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4194437)

Without ever having held a stopwatch on him, Pees guessed James would not possess receiver wheels. That, combined with James' body type, would make him a tight end who'd be considerably more vulnerable to contact than a wideout.

"The biggest thing he wouldn't be ready for is somebody hitting him," Pees said. "I know they play physical in the NBA, so put [Patriots outside linebacker] Adalius Thomas up in his face all day and have a defensive back maybe behind him that has some size too, that can go up with him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 01, 2011, 11:39:09 PM
Neither team will play like they did last night, obviously.  I doubt Miami hits that many three's again (at least as efficiently as they did). I doubt Barea gives a big steaming pile of fucking NOTHING.  I doubt Peja misses multiple wide open 3's.  I doubt Terry shits the bed for the entire 2nd half. I doubt Chandler only gets 4 or 5 rebounds. 

But I also doubt that Lebron will coast as much as he did in this game.  He definitely let the game come to him...didn't force the issue.  His jumpshot (always the weak point in his game) is automatic right now.  If he keeps hitting fade-away 3's there's no chance the Mavs can win.  But if he keeps playing the same game he did yesterday, getting his teammates involved as opposed to being selfish, I think it helps dallas.  Because Lebron taking shots is a helluva lot more scary than Miller, Chalmers, Haslem, etc. 

I doubt Bosh shoots as poorly as he did. I think what Wade did was probably about right for him at this point. 

The officiating was better than I thought it would be.  Dallas actually shot more FT's - of course, I don't know if Miami had more than a handful of shots in the paint.  Dallas was the more attacking team all night.  That was really my only problem.  Dallas attacked much more than Miami but still only shot 6 more ft's. 

Of course, there were some absolutely ridiculous calls that favored Miami. Unfortunately they all occurred in a crucial point in the 4th quarter.  I couldn't believe they didn't call a travel on Lebron after he stood up after laying on the ground.  Is that not traveling anymore?  But I digress...the calls will always favor the home team, so Dallas just has to play through them and get it back to Dallas.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this next game is going to be much closer to the 90's-100's in scoring.  For as "great" as Miami's defense is, Dallas missed a TON of uncontested jumpers.  And those misses were by guys with reputations for being great shooters (Peja, Terry).  Barea played his worst game in the playoffs.  Blow hards are probably saying it was due to Miami's defense.  Since when does allowing a guy to miss a wide open runner/jumper constitute great defense?


It's going to be tough for Dallas to win game 2.  I thought they had a chance at game 1.  That was their best shot.  But it's certainly not impossible.  They just have to play better offensively when given open shots.  Defense just needs to be as good as it was in game 1.  Carlisle needs to stick to his own rotations and not try to be cute to match up with miami.  It's still possible.  But they've GOT to win 1, probably 2 in miami.  If they don't do it tomorrow, series is over barring a collapse by miami in dallas.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 12:52:44 AM
Look, that's a few long posts that I didn't feel like reading.


Upon second watch of the game... the officiating sucked... both ways.
There were two clear things that stuck out.
The officials clearly set a tone and pace early that, believe it or not, favored the Heat. That happens on home courts in the playoffs.
LeBron should've easily had ten fouls in that game. That push off on Barea was just too much contact to ignore. Still can't see how he didn't get another foul there. The rest could've all gone either way, but with how inconsistent the officiating was all night... he has to get called on one or two of those, right?  Yeah, whatever.

If Dallas hits half of the open shots they missed... I mean WIDE OPEN... (like they have through the entire playoffs) they win that game.

Still, the Dirk finger scares me. Otherwise, this series isn't over. That looked obvious to me. Mavs played like dog shit and still had a chance to win, really.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 02, 2011, 08:05:53 AM
No one canbeat Miami when they defend like they did in the second half.  I love Carlisle but i just don't know what else the macs can do on offense. Zones can't win championships but I think it can bother the heat if they don't attack it like they did in the second half
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 02, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
Back

and to the left

there was a second spitter
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 02, 2011, 01:20:40 PM
No one canbeat Miami when they defend like they did in the second half.  I love Carlisle but i just don't know what else the macs can do on offense. Zones can't win championships but I think it can bother the heat if they don't attack it like they did in the second half

The Mavs are going to have some of the same problems the Bulls did matchup wise with Miami. You need to play guys like Terry, Barea, and Peja for their offense, but none of those guys can guard any of Miami's big three so you have to figure out how to hide them on defense. We've seen Miami take over in the 4th quarter time and time again in the playoffs, game one was no exception. I hate to say it, but I think Miami wins the title in 5 games.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 01:38:59 PM
The Mavs are going to have some of the same problems the Bulls did matchup wise with Miami. You need to play guys like Terry, Barea, and Peja for their offense, but none of those guys can guard any of Miami's big three so you have to figure out how to hide them on defense. We've seen Miami take over in the 4th quarter time and time again in the playoffs, game one was no exception. I hate to say it, but I think Miami wins the title in 5 games.

That's very well possible. But I don't think people realize JUST how poorly Dallas' bench played.  The bench is a huge aspect of Dallas' success, and they shot something like 15%.  And we're not talking about a ton of missed shots due to Miami's defense.  We're talking about Terry and Peja missing wide open jumpers.  We're talking about Barea missing layups and runners after breaking down the defense.  Those are things that haven't happened (to all 3 players) in one game all these playoffs.  So while Miami might have looked invincible n game 1, if Dallas was playing anywhere close to their normal game (once again, making wide open shots), they would have had a pretty decent lead heading into the 4th quarter.

But when Dirk's shootings is KINDA off (comparatively), Dallas HAS to get big help from the bench.  They can't overcome both of those factors.  And I just don't see dallas' bench shooting 15% again in any game this series.  Hell, if they had just shot 30% Dallas probably would have been right there.

Fearless prediction for game 2? I am worried about Dirk's hand.  I know it's his off hand, but he drives left a ton and finishes with his left.  I'm thinking Dirk's going to fall back into primarily a jump shooter for game 2 because of that.  Hopefully he's feeling it. 

I think Chandler will get a double-double, with the Mavs keeping rebounds closer to even.

I think Dallas keeps turnovers below 12.

Bench will outscore Miami's by double digits.

Dallas inexplicably steals game 2, 101-95.  Please. Please sweet, 8 lb baby jesus. Please.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 02, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
The first half must have been completely different from the second half because I saw very few quality maverick shots.

Two things I know for sure.  Dwade is severely overrated offensively. He needs a ton of shots and official's help to be any kind of a scorer. Rick Riley doesn't know shit about basketball or logic
 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 02, 2011, 05:13:15 PM
That's very well possible. But I don't think people realize JUST how poorly Dallas' bench played.  The bench is a huge aspect of Dallas' success, and they shot something like 15%.  And we're not talking about a ton of missed shots due to Miami's defense.  We're talking about Terry and Peja missing wide open jumpers.  We're talking about Barea missing layups and runners after breaking down the defense.  Those are things that haven't happened (to all 3 players) in one game all these playoffs.  So while Miami might have looked invincible n game 1, if Dallas was playing anywhere close to their normal game (once again, making wide open shots), they would have had a pretty decent lead heading into the 4th quarter.



I agree somewhat with this, the Mavs bench went 4 for 22 from the field which is just awful. And my thought immediately after the game was "well the Mavs bench won't shot like that again." But then you look at just how badly Miami played (38% from the field, two starters who failed to score, DWade going 1-7 or whatever it was in the first half) and you have to wonder if the Mavs let a golden opportunity slip away to steal game 1 in Miami. It almost feels like the Mavs need to have an 8-12 point lead going into the 4th quarter if they want to have a chance to win because Dirk cannot outplay the LBJ/DWADE combo for the last 10 minutes of a game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
The first half must have been completely different from the second half because I saw very few quality maverick shots.

Two things I know for sure.  Dwade is severely overrated offensively. He needs a ton of shots and official's help to be any kind of a scorer. Rick Riley doesn't know shit about basketball or logic
 

It most definitely was.

Teams fuck up defending Dallas because they try to switch guys on and off Dirk with one and two guys helping up the middle. This leaves secondary players wide the fuck open and guys like Jet, Peja, even Barea, Kidd and Marion have been draining more than half of these. They missed a ton in the first half.

Dallas could've easily had a game 4 vs Lakers-ish halftime lead.
But they didn't.

Miami kept switching off and swarming Dirk. He didn't have the secondary help to pull them off. They were STILL in the game late.

You have to just play Dirk straight up and hope he has a bad night. Dallas is too dangerous on the outside to take chances on stopping Dirk. As soon as that defense collapses, Dallas is fantastic at getting the ball out and moving to the open man. This series will last a lot longer than people think if Miami keeps up what they did in game 1. It can and will backfire. Hopefully tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on June 02, 2011, 06:27:48 PM
I didn't read all the fine print in this thread and I didn't see the whole game either. What I did see was Dirk missing shots he made last series and Barera getting his shit tossed into the stands. Yes, I saw Lebron's fade away 3rd qtr shot.

I'm fucked on this series. I wanted the Heat to break it off in Kobe and now the fucking Mavs go on an unbelievable run and now I have to go that way. I am just afraid that great ride is over at the wrong fucking time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 06:32:47 PM
I agree somewhat with this, the Mavs bench went 4 for 22 from the field which is just awful. And my thought immediately after the game was "well the Mavs bench won't shot like that again." But then you look at just how badly Miami played (38% from the field, two starters who failed to score, DWade going 1-7 or whatever it was in the first half) and you have to wonder if the Mavs let a golden opportunity slip away to steal game 1 in Miami. It almost feels like the Mavs need to have an 8-12 point lead going into the 4th quarter if they want to have a chance to win because Dirk cannot outplay the LBJ/DWADE combo for the last 10 minutes of a game.

I'm not so much looking at one half, but the whole game. Wade started slowly but ended up with a good game.  I expect, on the whole, he'll have another good game tonight.  Lebron played outstanding. That'll probably happen again too.  Bosh will probably play better, too.  But that's all pretty expected.

Just like Dallas' bench being a much more effective unit is expected.

Dallas absolutely let a golden opportunity slip away in game 1.  I question Carlisle's decision to replace Stevenson with Barea immediately after Dallas built up a 7 or 8 point lead and came storming out of the gates in the 3rd.  Dallas got stomped pretty much from that point on.  There were long stretches where Barea, Kidd, and Terry were all on the court at the same time...ugh. Hate that. Horrible rebounding/defensive unit.  I've hated that combo all year long.  Stevenson needs to eat into some of Terry/Barea's minutes this series, I think.  He's better rebounding/defensively, obviously.  And he seems to at least have some toughness to where he isn't afraid to take an open shot (which he was hitting). 

It's going to be fun to watch. Just hope dallas wins or these people in adjoining hotel rooms will not be pleased with my profanity.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HD on June 02, 2011, 07:27:53 PM
a lot of heat hatin' going on in this thread
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 07:59:15 PM
Dallas absolutely let a golden opportunity slip away in game 1.  I question Carlisle's decision to replace Stevenson with Barea immediately after Dallas built up a 7 or 8 point lead and came storming out of the gates in the 3rd.  Dallas got stomped pretty much from that point on.  There were long stretches where Barea, Kidd, and Terry were all on the court at the same time...ugh. Hate that. Horrible rebounding/defensive unit.  I've hated that combo all year long. 

Nailed it.

That unit right there killed all of the Mavs momentum every time they were out there. It's not a good fit for this series and I expect to see very little of it tonight and on out.

I'm ready to get this series back to Dallas quick. This heat crowd is beyond fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 08:56:09 PM
Dallas is doing it all over again. They're thoroughly outplaying the heat right now. Getting to the basket, creating open looks, rebounding, creating turnovers...and we keep missing wide open shots.  :suicide:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 08:57:25 PM
Wade is doing it on his own right now.  Dude making it happen.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 09:00:03 PM
That last Stevenson three proves exactly what I'm talking about. If you cheat and try to close in on Dirk late, he's going to get out to your guy. They will hit the three half the time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 09:03:26 PM
Ouch.  Wade let himself get run head first into the padding under the hoop.  No contact shown but timeout had to be called because Wade wouldn't stop arguing with the ref and play ball.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:04:41 PM
My GAWD you've GOT to think that Miami is going to stop hitting these RIDICULOUS shots.  I realize that great players will hit great shots. But Lebron hitting fade-away 25 footers...FREQUENTLY? Goodness...

But what you're seeing from Dallas right now is what Miami should be doing with their lineup.  Penetration, penetration...kick. Miami will be ungodly good when they develop more offensive chemistry in a year or two.  Cause right now they play pretty boring basketball offensively. They make incredible individual plays, but they have no flow offensively.  When they get some semblance of an offense to complement that? Jeeeeez.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:06:18 PM
Ouch.  Wade let himself get run head first into the padding under the hoop.  No contact shown but timeout had to be called because Wade wouldn't stop arguing with the ref and play ball.

No goddamn reason that shouldn't have been a technical. Showing up the refs like that was supposed to have been an immediate tech this season.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 09:16:56 PM
No gawd damn reason that shouldn't have been a technical. Showing up the refs like that was supposed to have been an immediate tech this season.

Dang agreeance.  It looked clean in real time but that slow motion they replayed showed that there was no contact at all.  Just when I try to remember why I don't like Wade in the first place, he goes and completely reminds me like that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:22:50 PM
The end to that half was pretty inexcusable and eerily reminiscent of the close to the 1st half in game 1 versus the lakers.  Build up a big lead, then commit bonehead foul after bonehead foul after bonehead turnover after missed layup after missed open jumper after bonehead foul. Rinse, repeat.  Jason Terry is put money on Miami. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 02, 2011, 09:31:49 PM
Wade is starting to get a lot of calls from the ref.  The offensive goal tending.  How does a referee on any level miss that?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:37:58 PM
Dallas is falling apart...again. Turnover, after turnover, after turnover.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
This Heat dick sucking is getting to me. Apparently a 5-point lead is a 20-point lead when the Heat have it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:47:03 PM
So Dwayne Wade AND Spoelestra can spend five minutes bitching at Joe Mauer...No T.  Carlisle gets one in 1 second.

Yeah - mavs are toast.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 09:50:22 PM

Yeah - mavs are toast.

sad that this is what the Finals are reduced to
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 09:50:59 PM
So Dwayne Wade AND Spoelestra can spend five minutes bitching at Joe Mauer...No T.  Carlisle gets one in 1 second.

Yeah - mavs are toast.

Just shattered the window on a toaster oven from throwing shit on that one. Of course they get a freebie possession and a three.

That's unbelievable. Legitimate argument...  Wade, James and Spoelstra have gone apeshit over obvious calls all series. That's just unbelievable. I've had to turn it off for a bit and calm down. The constant dick sucking, demeaning a Dallas team that has accomplished a whole hell of a lot this season for those that have actually watched.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:52:08 PM
Just shattered the window on a toaster oven from throwing aMm on that one. Of course they get a freebie possession and a three.

That's unbelievable. Legitimate argument...  Wade, James and Spoelstra have gone apeshit over obvious calls all series. That's just unbelievable. I've had to turn it off for a bit and calm down. The constant dick sucking, demeaning a Dallas team that has accomplished a whole Starkville of a lot this season for those that have actually watched.

And to top it off, Spoelstra's half time speach equates playing dallas to a scrimmage.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 09:52:49 PM
sad that this is what the Finals are reduced to
They used to stretch everything to 7 games...  guess they're gonna start that in Dallas... or is this just going to keep up?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 09:55:03 PM
Guess they're trying to hype this Heat team up as a legitimate unstoppable dynasty.  The Pistons of old would eat Lebron up and spit him out.  The Bulls would just score so fast the Heat would be messed up.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 09:58:04 PM
The Joes are about to blow this one open.  DWade catches the ball, player within 5 ft, FOUL! Dirk and Haslem at the top of the key, Haslem bodies dirk to the point where he falls (so it's got to be something, considering it's in the act of shooting)...nothing.

Oh well. Refs are missing some calls, but most of this big Heat lead is directly on the mavs. Just turnovers after turnovers. I'm in the fucking twilight zone.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:01:00 PM
Refs are missing some calls, but most of this big Heat lead is directly on the mavs. Just turnovers after turnovers. I'm in the fucking twilight zone.

Absolutely.

Officials are facilitating it though... that's not how the game should go. ESPECIALLY in the Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 02, 2011, 10:02:00 PM
They used to stretch everything to 7 games...  guess they're gonna start that in Dallas... or is this just going to keep up?

I'm afraid it's the latter. You can't dispute their talent, but I hate how Wade and Lbj celebrate every time they do anything positive.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 10:04:50 PM
I'm afraid it's the latter. You can't dispute their talent, but I hate how Wade and Lbj celebrate every time they do anything positive.

The ONLY thing that's keeping me from throwing this hotel LCD through a window is the fact that I haven't had to see Bosh celebrate a meaningless jump shot yet.  If ever there was a lame quasi-star.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on June 02, 2011, 10:05:25 PM
Lebron can't take 3 steps.  But, ya know, I don't let The Decision affect me, so...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:05:40 PM
I'm afraid it's the latter. You can't dispute their talent, but I hate how Wade and Lbj celebrate every time they do anything positive.
Would never dispute their talent.

These thunderous dunks keep getting all the oohs and aahs, but does anyone legitimately think an offensive foul would be called if a defender set in front of one of those drives? Absolutely not. That pisses me off.

And I repeat, the officials are not losing this game for the mavs... they're simply molding the game into a tone and pace that facilitates the Heat. It's fucking infuriating.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:12:16 PM
Barea gets shoved back twice, then gets fouled on the illegal pick... nothing.

I'm not sure how much more I can watch.
I'm doing breathing exercises in between drinks.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:12:37 PM

And I repeat, the officials are not losing this game for the mavs... they're simply molding the game into a tone and pace that facilitates the Heat. It's fricking infuriating.

Except for the whole double standard thing you're right.  How many times did I just watch Chalmers make his defender stagger backwards with elbow shoves on that single possession?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:16:40 PM
Has Cuban walked out? Haven't seen him behind the behind the bench in a while. He's usually in all of those tight bench shots.


WOW, DIRK ALMOST GETS KNOCKED TO THE FLOOR. NO CALL.
FUCK THIS SHIT.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:18:59 PM
Put in Corey Brewer and goon it up. Fuck it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:19:03 PM
Sheesh I wouldn't blame Dirk if HE freaking walked out of this.  The only way to fight this officiating is to make every foul as hard as you can and make the Heat players think twice about coming at you.

I'm officially keeping up with the game via this thread.  The tv has been switched to Family Guy.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on June 02, 2011, 10:22:03 PM
Put in Corey Brewer and goon it up. frick it.
This. Put a 1 or 2 chops across the face of LeBron on one of those drives to the hoop and we'll see how much he's celebrating with a swollen shut eye.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 02, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Sheesh I wouldn't blame Dirk if HE freaking walked out of this.  The only way to fight this officiating is to make every foul as hard as you can and make the Heat players think twice about coming at you.

I think you have to "goon" it. One hard foul by a Mavs and they'll get the flagrant 2 when Wade finds a way to stumble into the elventyith row. Probably suspended for a game when it's all said and done.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:24:24 PM
Wade or Lebron, get that as a shooting foul.

This is incredible.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 02, 2011, 10:25:48 PM
Ya'll are hilarious.  Miami doesn't shoot a free throw until the middle of the second quarter, James had to sit in the first half with fouls, and it's been a bloody robbery.  Miami must be the dirtiest team ever.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:26:31 PM
I think you have to "goon" it. One hard foul by a Mavs and they'll get the flagrant 2 when Wade finds a way to stumble into the elventyith row. Probably suspended for a game when it's all said and done.

I would rather put up a fight and do it that way than just roll over and bite the pillow.  Of course, this is coming from the same guy who was booted from a church league once for getting mad and throwing a rough foul in the same circumstance (knocked a cheating youth leader on his butt).  The finisher was when I told the dirty referee/pastor to KMA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:28:26 PM
Ya'll are hilarious.  Miami doesn't shoot a free throw until the middle of the second quarter, James had to sit in the first half with fouls, and it's been a bloody robbery.  Miami must be the dirtiest team ever.

A couple of things that have been mentioned already:

1. The Pistons of old would eat this Heat team up.

B. Dallas has done themselves zero favors, especially with all the turnovers. 


Anyone want to update me what's happening in the game?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:28:49 PM
Ya'll are hilarious.  Miami doesn't shoot a free throw until the middle of the second quarter, James had to sit in the first half with fouls, and it's been a bloody robbery.  Miami must be the dirtiest team ever.
Have you SEEN the end of the first and out?

It's been ridiculous here late.


This is homecourt advantage to the extreme. I just hope Dallas gets the same concessions at home.


No continuation for the visiting team, all shooting fouls for the home team. Tone is set early in your favor at your pace...
Thing is, Dallas wasn't fouling early... it's almost as if the officials noted that and wanted to change it late. Completely changed the way they were calling the game.


Dirk has been beat up all night... He's been to the line once. ONCE... not including the one shot off the Miller T.


And again.... Dallas has not executed well at all... I'm not blaming it all on the officials
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
I thought the same thing about 2006, but all the hard foul did against Shaq was cost the Mavs one of their better players for a game and motivate Miami even more.

Dallas just isn't going to win ANY ball games, regardless of opponent, if guys like Dirk and Terry are missing wide open jumpers and the team turns the ball over elentybillion times.  I don't see incredible defense by miami. I see dallas players being anxious, looking for shot blocker from behind, etc. Just play your fucking game and stop worrying about this bullshit about Miami's defense.  They're killing themselves with these unforced errors.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
Ya'll are hilarious.  Miami doesn't shoot a free throw until the middle of the second quarter, James had to sit in the first half with fouls, and it's been a bloody robbery.  Miami must be the dirtiest team ever.

Considering the fact that Miami shot a grand total of about 4 shots in the paint, mostly uncontested, what do you expect?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 10:33:38 PM
Wow Chandler, don't hurt Lebron too much with that breath to his shoulder.  Might misplace a receeding hair.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 02, 2011, 10:34:51 PM
I thought the same thing about 2006, but all the hard foul did against Shaq was cost the Mavs one of their better players for a game and motivate Miami even more.

Dallas just isn't going to win ANY ball games, regardless of opponent, if guys like Dirk and Terry are missing wide open jumpers and the team turns the ball over elentybillion times.  I don't see incredible defense by miami. I see dallas players being anxious, looking for shot blocker from behind, etc. Just play your fucking game and stop worrying about this bullshit about Miami's defense.  They're killing themselves with these unforced errors.

That's the part I don't understand. It's like Westbrook and Durant's passing skills rubbed off on Kidd and company.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:36:23 PM
That's the part I don't understand. It's like Westbrook and Durant's passing skills rubbed off on Kidd and company.

A lot of that was Peja.

There's a reason he hasn't seen the floor in the second half.
Defensive liability... complete lack of execution on the offensive end. It was 5 on 4 for a while.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:37:05 PM
I turned the game off and Dallas went on a 17-2 run.    Cuban owes me for that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 02, 2011, 10:37:45 PM
Oh shit here we go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 02, 2011, 10:42:29 PM
Oh my.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
Now a 20-2 run.  Miami has shut it down on offense.  No chemistry at all it seems, poor shot selection, just looking for one man to make a play up all by himself. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 02, 2011, 10:43:38 PM
At least the Mavs get the last shot...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:44:02 PM
Somehow Dallas left Chalmers wide the frick open for a three.  Jason Terry left his area.  Dallas didn't need that at all, let a little momentum back into the arena.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:44:58 PM
Somehow Dallas left Chalmers wide the frick open for a three.  Jason Terry left his area.  Dallas didn't need that at all, let a little momentum back into the arena.
Didn't leave his area... he just lost Chalmers.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:47:27 PM
Yeah not like it matters anymore.  22-5 run to end it on the road = Wow.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 02, 2011, 10:47:48 PM
Left hand didn't fuck up his layup, did it.

Wow.

Can't. Breathe.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 02, 2011, 10:49:16 PM
Left hand didn't frick up his layup, did it.


Rome was talking today about whether or not it was smart for Dirk to talk as much as he did about his injury.  I think he punked everyone just a little bit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 02, 2011, 10:50:35 PM
Dirk is legend.

No matter how badly my grandpa hated his.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on June 02, 2011, 10:59:20 PM
No chemistry at all it seems, poor shot selection, just looking for one man to make a play up all by himself.  
This is where Miami's great coaching usually takes over. Oh wait....  ;)


Is it just me or does the Heat's coach look like another son of Earl Woods?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 11:51:42 PM
Fearless prediction for game 2? I am worried about Dirk's hand.  I know it's his off hand, but he drives left a ton and finishes with his left.  I'm thinking Dirk's going to fall back into primarily a jump shooter for game 2 because of that.  Hopefully he's feeling it. 

I think I was fairly close on this one. Dirk was shooting mostly jumpers/fades with relatively little movement til the 4th.

I think Chandler will get a double-double, with the Mavs keeping rebounds closer to even.
Chandler came close at 13/7, but Dallas owned the boards by 11. 

I think Dallas keeps turnovers below 12.

Mulligan? How the fuck does a team win a game against OKC when outrebounded by over 20, then win a game against Miami when we turned the ball over 20 times.  The turnovers are very uncharacteristic and they're making each game more than winnable when they otherwise wouldn't be for Miami. 

Bench will outscore Miami's by double digits.

Got it.

Dallas inexplicably steals game 2, 101-95.  Please. Please sweet, 8 lb baby jesus. Please.

I was close enough.  ;D
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 02, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
My GAWD you've GOT to think that Miami is going to stop hitting these RIDICULOUS shots.  I realize that great players will hit great shots. But Lebron hitting fade-away 25 footers...FREQUENTLY? Goodness...

But what you're seeing from Dallas right now is what Miami should be doing with their lineup.  Penetration, penetration...kick. Miami will be ungodly good when they develop more offensive chemistry in a year or two.  Cause right now they play pretty boring basketball offensively. They make incredible individual plays, but they have no flow offensively.  When they get some semblance of an offense to complement that? Jeeeeez.

Think I said this around the 1st quarter...Miami's offense is such a mess.  If their superstars aren't hitting CRAZY shots, there's nothing to their offense.  Boring, death-of-the-sport, isolation basketball. But I'll take it if they go cold for a stretch every game from here out.  Lord knows they owe us considering how cold dallas' shooters have been.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on June 03, 2011, 06:02:18 AM
Anybody check on that van gundy assclown to make sure he didn't slash his wrists?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 03, 2011, 07:37:10 AM
Ya'll are hilarious.  Miami doesn't shoot a free throw until the middle of the second quarter, James had to sit in the first half with fouls, and it's been a bloody robbery.  Miami must be the dirtiest team ever.

You are either hellen keller or you just can't see the game with the jizzm baptism Lebron put on your face.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 03, 2011, 07:41:05 AM
Ocelot The mavs 20 turnovers have a lot to do with the lebron heat defense.

Dallas moves the ball as well as anyone in the league. Miami's shitty o hurt their defense.  In their coach's defense, I really think lebron and wade were the reason the ball wasn't moving.  Spolestra got outcoached again, but it shouldn't matter......hopefully we wont see anymore running down the shot clock possessions again

Chandler is straight defending boshs ass

Bosh doesn't play average, heat are going to struggle
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 03, 2011, 07:47:04 AM
You are either hellen keller or you just can't see the game with the jizzm baptism Lebron put on your face.


No he just realizes how shitty the officiating is every night.  I love Chandler but he fouls as much as anyone when he is away from the ball.  The free throw differential was due to the
Mavericks attacking the rim and the heat shooting wide open jumpers. 


Miami gave the mavs a golden opportunity and they took advantage of it
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 03, 2011, 08:04:27 AM
What has been the worst collapse/ best comeback this year:

 mavs at okc, game 4 

Heat at chicago, game 5

Mavs at heat,
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 03, 2011, 08:14:45 AM
Motherfricker.  I got bored of the game and fell asleep when the Heat went up by like 15.  Who knew the Mavs were going to go all Reggie Miller on the Heat?

Peja is just nowhere near what he used to be.  There was a 5 minute period in that game where D Wade completely took over a game played by grown ass men who are the best in the world at what they do.  I don't see the disparities in the calls like a lot of you folks see, other than the puzzling T called on Carlisle.  That was a bit weird.

The Dallas crowd is going to be insanely loud for their game.   It is just going to be off the charts.

When you guys talk about the Pistons of yesterday beating this Heat team easily, which Pistons team are you talking about - Chauncy and Loco or the REAL Piston dynasty of Dumars, Thomas, Laimbeer and Daley?  The early 90's Piston team would kick about everyone's asses. 

I feel like I just typed a Larry King column. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 03, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Splurge on June 04, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
When you guys talk about the Pistons of yesterday beating this Heat team easily, which Pistons team are you talking about - Chauncy and Loco or the REAL Piston dynasty of Dumars, Thomas, Laimbeer and Daley?  The early 90's Piston team would kick about everyone's asses. 

Totally agree on the this.  Mahorn would be chokin' a bitch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 04, 2011, 12:26:51 PM
The officiating has been a little better than in 2006 when D Wade averaged over 16 free throws a game.
But how does Wade not get a technical when he berates the ref for a whole trip down the court and back after he was nudged going in for a layup.  Then LeBron hits Dirk with an intentional elbow and doesn't get called for a technical or flagrant foul?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 04, 2011, 12:35:43 PM
The officiating has been a little better than in 2006 when D Wade averaged over 16 free throws a game.
But how does Wade not get a technical when he berates the ref for a whole trip down the court and back after he was nudged going in for a layup.  Then LeBron hits Dirk with an intentional elbow and doesn't get called for a technical or flagrant foul?
It was the star-treatment thing that was pissing me off.
There were some highlight reel dunks off drives where the mavs just stood and watched, almost as if they knew there was no chance of getting an offensive foul called.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 05, 2011, 07:04:15 PM
It's shameful the things they're lettting Lebron get away with!  :thumbdown:

Sorry, just getting tuned up for game 3.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 05, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
I'm sorry, but Wade should be ashamed and the officials should be fired for that bullshit call against Kid on the rebound.  Just fucking shameful.  

As i type this, Kid just made Wade his bitch on that pump fake, which he traveled on as well.  Fucking hell, the whole thing is a clusterfuck.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 05, 2011, 08:14:14 PM
I'm sorry, but Wade should be ashamed and the officials should be fired for that bullshit call against Kid on the rebound.  Just fricking shameful.  

As i type this, Kid just made Wade his bitch on that pump fake, which he traveled on as well.  fricking Starkville, the whole thing is a clusterfuck.

It's all just one big continuous make-up call.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 05, 2011, 08:21:19 PM
If I was an NBA ref, I'd hold a grudge against these guys for the way they play act.

That was a tremendous job by Dallas to even get that score back to 5 pts at halftime.   Wade has been playing hard but I also think he's gone off the deep end with the assertion with the ball, the scoring and declaring himself the leader of the team.   
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 05, 2011, 08:53:34 PM
What does Wade or James need to do to get a T?  Seriously, is it possible? 

This just in, Dirk going ATM on the Heat right now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 05, 2011, 10:00:50 PM
Miami wins with absolutely no offensive continuity.


Tyson Chandler fouls everyone in the arena but I like him a lot .

Lebron runs the offense too much

You maverick fans who bitch about the officiating better not say shit about it....you guys got a shitload of calls
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: wvhawgfan on June 05, 2011, 10:07:04 PM
The officiating, if you want to call it that, sucked equally on both ends of the floor from what I could tell.  Granted I'm not real sure anyone knows what the exact rules are in the NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 05, 2011, 10:19:02 PM
I think they just said screw it at the end and let everything go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 06, 2011, 08:39:52 AM
Miami got more of the close calls in Miami.  Dallas got more of the close calls in Dallas.  It's almost like there's some kind of trend.  Can you imagine if that had been the trend in the NBA for the last 20 or 30 years?

The league needs to stop protecting Tyson Chandler.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 06, 2011, 08:54:03 AM
i wish one of the refs would go all billy crystal in a game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 06, 2011, 09:06:42 AM
Miami got more of the close calls in Miami.  Dallas got more of the close calls in Dallas.  It's almost like there's some kind of trend.  Can you imagine if that had been the trend in the NBA for the last 20 or 30 years?

The league needs to stop protecting Tyson Chandler.


The calls the officials make are embarrassing. Chandler mugs haslem and Anthony on screens then grabs Anthony on a "box out" and they call a foul on anthony.


Dirk and dwade get to shoot free throws after simulating a push in the back.

Dirk gets an and one because mike miller breaths him.

Marion the same....


Not a double dribble on lebron. Officials don't Confer and get it right.


Its so bad and yet I continue to watch and laugh


T Chandler is a hack. Damn. I love him though.  Hate to play against his ass
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 06, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
I think they just said screw it at the end and let everything go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TheGreatBoardero on June 06, 2011, 11:57:18 AM
I don't care for Lebron James, but I loathe Gregg Doyle. Therefore, when Lebron and Doyle lock horns, I cheer for Lebron.


http://youtu.be/Ho3_xNSHE6Q (http://youtu.be/Ho3_xNSHE6Q)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sliver72 on June 06, 2011, 12:52:43 PM
I don't care for Lebron James, but I loathe Gregg Doyle. Therefore, when Lebron and Doyle lock horns, I cheer for Lebron.


http://youtu.be/Ho3_xNSHE6Q (http://youtu.be/Ho3_xNSHE6Q)
beat me to it. But I love to see Dooshbag Doyel get told on national teevee.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on June 06, 2011, 01:06:48 PM

The calls the officials make are embarrassing. Chandler mugs haslem and Anthony on screens then grabs Anthony on a "box out" and they call a foul on anthony.


Dirk and dwade get to shoot free throws after simulating a push in the back.

Dirk gets an and one because mike miller breaths him.

Marion the same....


Not a double dribble on lebron. Officials don't Confer and get it right.


Its so bad and yet I continue to watch and laugh


T Chandler is a hack. Damn. I love him though.  Hate to play against his ass

I could care less who wins.  Or, I couldn't care less.

That call against Miller versus Dirk could have been the worst call in the history of the game. 

The double dribble call on LeBron is exactly what is wrong with the NBA, to me.  He walked by catching his own missed, or possibly blocked/altered shot.  No call.  5 seconds later they call double dribble.  He can't double dribble if he didn't travel originally.  Stop with the make up calls.  If you miss one, you miss it.  Call the game as you see it, not as a wrestling ref would do if Skandar Akbar's lighter goes out of fluid the first time he tries to light Cowboy Bill Watts's trunks up.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 06, 2011, 01:33:03 PM
He walked by catching his own missed, or possibly blocked/altered shot. 
Right, but only in the NBA, if it fails to hit the rim or backboard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Law_Hawg on June 06, 2011, 02:01:59 PM
beat me to it. But I love to see Dooshbag Doyel get told on national teevee.



Gregg Doyel responded today.

LeBron James: Story of an incredibly shrinking superstar (http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/15202274)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on June 06, 2011, 02:06:20 PM
Right, but only in the NBA, if it fails to hit the rim or backboard.
See, you got me on that.  I thought that was a universal travel call if you shot the ball, and caught your own shot if it didn't touch the rim or backboard.  Guess I'll not follow through on the application to be a peewee basketball ref next year.


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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 06, 2011, 02:11:37 PM
also, bosh needs to be suspended for his italianesque soccer flops. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 06, 2011, 02:15:54 PM
See, you got me on that.  I thought that was a universal travel call if you shot the ball, and caught your own shot if it didn't touch the rim or backboard.  Guess I'll not follow through on the application to be a peewee basketball ref next year.


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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 06, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
also, bosh needs to be suspended for his italianesque soccer flops. 

The NBA is approaching soccer as far as gayass flops go.  Wade and Bish are 2 of the worst in the game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on June 06, 2011, 04:56:25 PM
The NBA is approaching soccer as far as gayass flops go.  Wade and Bish are 2 of the worst in the game.
Uh-oh, now you've done it. Grant Hill ain't going to be too happy with your post.

When will the NBA have a public service announcement denouncing all the rap songs that have the term "shorty" or "shawty" which clearly is a slap at all short females on the planet?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 06, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
I could care less who wins.  Or, I couldn't care less.

That call against Miller versus Dirk could have been the worst call in the history of the game. 

The double dribble call on LeBron is exactly what is wrong with the NBA, to me.  He walked by catching his own missed, or possibly blocked/altered shot.  No call.  5 seconds later they call double dribble.  He can't double dribble if he didn't travel originally.  Stop with the make up calls.  If you miss one, you miss it.  Call the game as you see it, not as a wrestling ref would do if Skandar Akbar's lighter goes out of fluid the first time he tries to light Cowboy Bill Watts's trunks up.

You can double dribble and not travel. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 07, 2011, 12:03:14 AM
Does anyone remember Larry Bird or Magic Johnson ever flopping?

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 07, 2011, 12:44:29 AM
Not to that extend.  Leave it to Miami to try to turn the NBA into European soccer.  I'm surprised Wade didn't writhe around on the floor until they came out with a stretcher to carry him to the bench, only to hop back up and reenter the game at full speed.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on June 07, 2011, 12:57:18 AM
Does anyone remember Larry Bird or Magic Johnson ever flopping?



aysm?

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: LaMoHog on June 07, 2011, 09:03:36 AM
aysm?

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He's not just serious. He's HIV positive.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on June 07, 2011, 09:22:15 AM
You can double dribble and not travel. 
I'm aware of that.  You apparently didn't see the play.  LeBron shot the ball, and possibly had it blocked, but it didn't touch the backboard or rim; he caught the ball (should have been a travel called right then).  He fakes like he's going to shoot, but didn't shoot.  He then dribbles.  They call double dribble.  5 seconds after he actually traveled.  I'm not sure if he had ever even single dribbled before he traveled.  It was a make up call to cover for the missed traveling call.

Some say you can't triple stamp a double stamp, but I challenge that as well.  There are certain circumstances that call for a triple stamp.  Generally though if one playa calls for the calf rope, all bets are off.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 07, 2011, 10:45:58 AM
As bad as the officiating can be at times, it's miles and miles better than 2006 (so far).  The mavs are losing this series through no fault but their own.  Unforced turnovers and missed jump shots.  That's all it boils down to.  The defense and rebounding have been good enough.  If they would just not give up so many easy turnovers that allow miami to score in transition (their ONLY efficient offense), they're likely up 2-1 or 3-0. 

Yeah, yeah. Ifs. But it's all I have.  When you're a team of 1 superstar going up against a team of 2.5, you've got to play smart basketball. The mavs are playing downright retarded basketball at times.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 07, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
Not to that extend.  Leave it to Miami to try to turn the NBA into European soccer.  I'm surprised Wade didn't writhe around on the floor until they came out with a stretcher to carry him to the bench, only to hop back up and reenter the game at full speed.

You're thinking of Paul Pierce.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Boar Bidet on June 07, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
why even watch anymore? it's all rigged by the mafia
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on June 07, 2011, 12:38:08 PM
Does anyone remember Larry Bird or Magic Johnson ever flopping?


I remember Magic's rookie year in the finals. If he got touched or bumped, he would make all these faces like he was in severe pain. The trainer would come out and talk to him and he'd be ok. He loved the attention and camera time. Can Stuart Scott ever introduce him in the after game as Magic Johnson? He's always 5 time champion and hall of famer Magic Johnson. Take his dick out of your mouth Stu.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Satchuation on June 07, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Not to that extend.  Leave it to Miami to try to turn the NBA into European soccer.

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 07, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
I remember Magic's rookie year in the finals. If he got touched or bumped, he would make all these faces like he was in severe pain. The trainer would come out and talk to him and he'd be ok. He loved the attention and camera time. Can Stuart Scott ever introduce him in the after game as Magic Johnson? He's always 5 time champion and hall of famer Magic Johnson. Take his dick out of your mouth Stu.

To be fair, Stu's going through a tough time and I'm sure he's just hoping for some of Magic's restorative cure-all to work it's magic as it did on Magic.  Magic.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GoodbyePorkPieHat on June 07, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
To be fair, Stu's going through a tough time and I'm sure he's just hoping for some of Magic's restorative cure-all to work it's magic as it did on Magic.  Magic.

I can't wait for Stuart Scott to die.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 07, 2011, 01:46:12 PM
I can't wait for Stuart Scott to die.
This.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Boar Bidet on June 07, 2011, 01:59:31 PM
I can't wait for Stuart Scott to die.
He needs to go stand in front of a football machine again and have his other eye gauged out. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on June 07, 2011, 02:07:56 PM
he is awful. magic is awful. the combination of the two forces me to change the channel. which is sad since the NBA playoffs are second only to college football as my favorite sporting event.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 07, 2011, 02:11:24 PM
He needs to go stand in front of a football machine again and have his other eye gauged out. 
Should they use a caliper or some type of water measuring device?

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on June 07, 2011, 02:29:19 PM
I can't wait for Stuart Scott to die.

This.
:tiw:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: authorhawgerelli on June 07, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
To be fair, Stu's going through a tough time and I'm sure he's just hoping for some of Magic's restorative cure-all to work it's magic as it did on Magic.  Magic.
Other than his George Plimpton attempt where the Jugs machine knocked his eye into WCDC mode, what else is wrong with the guy?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on June 07, 2011, 03:20:57 PM
he is awful. magic is awful. the combination of the two forces me to change the channel. which is sad since the NBA playoffs are second only to college football as my favorite sporting event.

This made me laugh, at you.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 07, 2011, 03:21:21 PM
Other than his George Plimpton attempt where the Jugs machine knocked his eye into WCDC mode, what else is wrong with the guy?
He is basically a Carlton that tries too hard to be both a Charlton and a Carl at the same time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on June 07, 2011, 03:30:37 PM
This made me laugh, at you.

repasta:

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 07, 2011, 03:56:06 PM
Other than his George Plimpton attempt where the Jugs machine knocked his eye into WCDC mode, what else is wrong with the guy?

He's battling cancer.  They mentioned during one of the broadcasts that he had been going through chemo, I believe. Quick googling makes it sound like he had some cancer in 2007 as well.

I don't like him as a "journalist," but I certainly don't agree with the "die stuart scott" mantra of recent posts.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 07, 2011, 07:50:03 PM
Anybody remember that Dick Enberg - Magic Johnson announcing team that NBC had?       Utterly horrible.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 07, 2011, 08:02:33 PM
Barrea is starting?  asldkja;lsdfkja;lskdf;ldskfj.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on June 07, 2011, 08:09:44 PM
Barrea is starting?  asldkja;lsdfkja;lskdf;ldskfj.

I've been waiting on this move. I believe Barrea can make more shots than Kidd. Kidd is always wide open also so that probably means Dirk is getting gangbanged to deny him the ball. They have to guard Barrea.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 07, 2011, 08:11:28 PM
Kidd will come in fresh and wear DWade out.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on June 07, 2011, 08:39:42 PM
Van Gundy talking about how the flop is killing the game. I have noticed Lebron seems to use angles refs can't see when he does his bit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 07, 2011, 08:57:04 PM
I love how Lebron can just lower a shoulder into Kidd and then act surprised it's a foul.  He's such a big help for the Heat so far.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on June 07, 2011, 09:01:10 PM
Van Gundy talking about how the flop is killing the game. I have noticed Lebron seems to use angles refs can't see when he does his bit.


If the league would go back, review film and start fining guys $10,000 for every flop under the category of "unsportsmanlike conduct" it would put stop to a lot of that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on June 07, 2011, 09:35:36 PM
 :P
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 07, 2011, 10:33:34 PM
These guys are playin intense ball right now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 07, 2011, 10:36:36 PM
What wild basketball the last few minutes.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 07, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
No idea why the Mavs have kept jacking up 3's.

Wade with a big miss on the free throw. Mavs up 1 with 30 seconds to go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 07, 2011, 10:40:49 PM
3 point game with 14.4 to go.

1 point lead for the Mavs with 9 to go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 07, 2011, 10:49:36 PM
Mavs win by 3. Dirk had a 102 fever all day. Series tied 2-2.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 07, 2011, 10:51:30 PM
THAT was a good game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 08, 2011, 12:28:32 AM
I'm convinced that the Mavs are purposefully trying to kill me.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 08, 2011, 12:51:01 AM
:P

As a sorta Dallas area native, who's been around Dirk and his friends when they're all hammered and chain smoking...

He has no qualms with telling people he does all of that in the offseason. He never drinks or smokes during the season though... Just the ol' german work hard play hard mentality, I guess.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Loma on June 08, 2011, 07:02:49 AM
As a sorta Dallas area native, who's been around Dirk and his friends when they're all hammered and chain smoking...

He has no qualms with telling people he does all of that in the offseason. He never drinks or smokes during the season though... Just the ol' german work hard play hard mentality, I guess.

Bundfaltenhose?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 08, 2011, 08:20:03 AM
If you don't realize how awesome these playoffs have been, frankly, you're probably a child molester.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on June 08, 2011, 08:44:33 AM
If you don't realize how awesome these playoffs have been, frankly, you're probably a child molester.

Guess the NBA is going out with a bang before the lock out.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on June 08, 2011, 09:01:00 AM
Dallas really impressed me. When DWade went into Robot mode in the 4th I thought they would fold like a fresh set of towels. that lob from Bron Bron to DWade was one of the best plays i've ever seen. srs.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 08, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
Dallas really impressed me. When DWade went into Robot mode in the 4th I thought they would fold like a fresh set of towels. that lob from Bron Bron to DWade was one of the best plays i've ever seen. srs.

It was an alley oop.  Certainly a well executed one and wade made a great play. But those kinds of plays happen almost nightly in the regular season.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 08, 2011, 09:08:41 AM
Some unastute observations

Dallas played great d. Marion on wade was solid. Wade still got his but he demands the ball too much..

Miami's offense is awful.  Lebron is not making anyone guard him on screen and rolls. He is giving it up way too fast.  

The last eight minutes were ridiculous  

The lack of ball movement is not only killing their rebounding defense etc



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: goporkyourself on June 08, 2011, 09:11:51 AM
It was an alley oop.  Certainly a well executed one and wade made a great play. But those kinds of plays happen almost nightly in the regular season.

well that's kind of the point. playoffs are different. but in fairness it was Brian Cardinal that got dunked on, nothing to see here.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 08, 2011, 09:38:38 AM
well that's kind of the point. playoffs are different. but in fairness it was Brian Cardinal that got dunked on, nothing to see here.

Poor brian cardinal. But good for him. On the whole he played pretty well and much better than Peja has been doing. If nothing else he's a smart, gritty player.  He SHOULD have been credited with 2 charges.  And he created a dunk for marion.  I like the move from carlisle.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hog Jordan on June 08, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
fuck the heat

(http://i54.tinypic.com/219xycx.jpg)

Lebron actually got the foul called and two shots, plus more because Carlisle got a tech complaining about the call.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 08, 2011, 10:17:13 AM
frick the heat

(http://i54.tinypic.com/219xycx.jpg)

Lebron actually got the foul called and two shots, plus more because Carlisle got a tech complaining about the call.

Disgusting.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 08, 2011, 10:47:40 AM
Heat are a bunch of putheys. Lebron would probably be a much better player if he would stop trying to act all the time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shortstop6 on June 08, 2011, 11:08:14 AM
Heat are a bunch of putheys. Lebron would probably be a much better player if he would stop trying to act all the time.

Overheard at my place last night:

Shortwife:  How big is LeBron?
Me: Oh, 6'8" and prolly 240 or so.
Shortwife: For a guy that big, he sure is a little bitch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on June 08, 2011, 03:28:44 PM
fuck the heat

(http://i54.tinypic.com/219xycx.jpg)

Lebron actually got the foul called and two shots, plus more because Carlisle got a tech complaining about the call.
That's just fucking weak.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 08, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
http://deadspin.com/5809927/tim-donaghy-on-game-4-lets-marvel-at-chris-boshs-restless-pivot-foot/gallery/1 (http://deadspin.com/5809927/tim-donaghy-on-game-4-lets-marvel-at-chris-boshs-restless-pivot-foot/gallery/1)

http://deadspin.com/5808997/tim-donaghy-on-game-3-how-refs-read-the-players/gallery/1 (http://deadspin.com/5808997/tim-donaghy-on-game-3-how-refs-read-the-players/gallery/1)

http://deadspin.com/5808379/tim-donaghy-on-game-2-the-trouble-with-subjectivity/gallery/1 (http://deadspin.com/5808379/tim-donaghy-on-game-2-the-trouble-with-subjectivity/gallery/1)

http://deadspin.com/5807464/tim-donaghy-on-game-1-how-the-refs-set-the-tone-of-a-series/gallery/1 (http://deadspin.com/5807464/tim-donaghy-on-game-1-how-the-refs-set-the-tone-of-a-series/gallery/1)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 09, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
About 20 minutes from game time.

I'm hoping Lebron doesn't go God-mode in response to all of this criticism. But if he does, I doubt he'd be much better than Wade has been (unbelievable).  So less wade shooting is a good thing for Dallas.

I'm thinking this will be the game Dallas finally hits 100 points.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 09, 2011, 07:56:50 PM
About 20 minutes from game time.

I'm hoping Lebron doesn't go God-mode in response to all of this criticism. But if he does, I doubt he'd be much better than Wade has been (unbelievable).  So less wade shooting is a good thing for Dallas.

I'm thinking this will be the game Dallas finally hits 100 points.

As bad as LBJ has been on offense so have the Mavs at making jumpers. I think you're right about finally having a high scoring game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on June 09, 2011, 07:58:27 PM
I think whoever wins tonight wins the series.  I think they will play like it's a championship game.  Let's just wait and see what the NBA wants to have happen.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 09, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
While we are at it, did anyone hear about Gilbert Arena's blind date last night?

http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/msn/lets_start_the_day_with_gilbert_arenas_live_tweeting_a_blind_date/4955236 (http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/msn/lets_start_the_day_with_gilbert_arenas_live_tweeting_a_blind_date/4955236)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 09, 2011, 08:10:26 PM
Mavs have to win this one. No way they take the final 2 games in Miami.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 09, 2011, 09:09:34 PM
Jesus, as soon as I turn the game on. 

Obvious double dribble gets conveniently overlooked by the refs.  And Marion gets the T for pointing it out.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2011, 09:10:14 PM
Fucking bullshit.  The fix is in.

James double-dribbles
James Walks
James hooks the fucking shit out of Marrion.

Foul on Marrion and an instant T on Marrion.

Wade and James argue and make flailing shit at the ref all fucking game and nothing.


Oh, and fuck you Crawford.  Now you 'warn' people to not argue after you already T'd up the mavs instantly.  Fuck you cheating fucks.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 09, 2011, 09:28:09 PM
I think my assumption that the Mavs would score 100 points is looking pretty good. But miami might score 110.

Mavs are up 15 if they'd make an effort on the fucking boards. Jesus christ. The same story EVERY game. They either rebound OR limit turnovers. They can't do both. They haven't been a great rebounding team, so that's somewhat expected, but they've shown they can do much better than this. It's giving miami life...that and the free throws so far. We're putting them on the line too much. Luckily staying out of the penalty.

Love the energy offensively. I'm glad they've finally started looking for Chandler more for easy baskets.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 09, 2011, 09:50:06 PM
Bosh traveling spinning into the defender and getting bailed out is more annoying than LBJ's "crab dribble/step" or Wade being injured every time he touches a defender.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 09, 2011, 09:54:59 PM
Bosh traveling spinning into the defender and getting bailed out is more annoying than LBJ's "crab dribble/step" or Wade being injured every time he touches a defender.

Does anyone know if Zegna makes a wheelchair? Or is Dwade more of a Sean John kinda guy?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 09, 2011, 09:59:22 PM
James barrels into a defender while catching a pass and they call it a shooting foul.  Must be nice to be LBJ and know anything goes.

At least they got it right and called it a non-shooting foul on review.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 09, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
Does anyone know if Zegna makes a wheelchair? Or is Dwade more of a Sean John kinda guy?

I had to look up Zegna.


This game is starting to feel like Game 2. I thought the Mavs would hit some jumpers but I don't think they can sustain this level for another 12 minutes. Mavs need to tighten up on both ends.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2011, 10:26:12 PM
Mavs are toast.  Series ovar.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 09, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
I had to look up Zegna.


This game is starting to feel like Game 2. I thought the Mavs would hit some jumpers but I don't think they can sustain this level for another 12 minutes. Mavs need to tighten up on both ends.


(http://www.edu-negev.gov.il/bs/makif7/english/nostradamus2.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 09, 2011, 10:36:51 PM
Mavs are toast.  Series ovar.

Not so fast my friend.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2011, 10:38:23 PM
Still a long time to go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 09, 2011, 10:41:28 PM
Jason Terry just ended it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2011, 10:44:26 PM
Mavs are SO fucked.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on June 09, 2011, 10:52:25 PM
Jason Terry just ended it.

Pass to Kidd for 3 and then his 3 were the dagger that put the Heat away.

Lebron disappears again in the 4th.

Mavs, bitch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: chop sooie on June 09, 2011, 10:52:35 PM
Mavs are SO fricked.


(http://www.brainygamer.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/16/brilliant.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 09, 2011, 10:53:07 PM
LeBron disappears in the fourth quarter with one bucket on a late layup. 1 for 4 in the fourth.

Come again, Scottie?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on June 09, 2011, 11:24:28 PM
LeBron disappears in the fourth quarter with one bucket on a late layup. 1 for 4 in the fourth.

Come again, Scottie?
James in 4th quarter in series....5 games, 11 total points.  :o
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 09, 2011, 11:44:12 PM
 :stache:(http://www.donthatemiami.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/jordan-lebron.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 09, 2011, 11:56:38 PM
Does anyone know why Lebron and Wade always do their postgame interviews together? Everyone else always does theirs alone...

Anyway - this is actually about what I was expecting this game. It's been a statistical anomaly for SO MANY of the mavs better shooters to miss so many open shots. It was bound to happen eventually.  Barea and Terry have GOT to keep this up and the Mavs need to keep finding ways to get easy points for Chandler. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 10, 2011, 12:13:58 AM
How funny was TONIGHT, douchebags?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o74t3j-P0QM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o74t3j-P0QM)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on June 10, 2011, 05:45:39 AM
How funny was TONIGHT, douchebags?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o74t3j-P0QM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o74t3j-P0QM)

in addition to the sniffles it looks like they both have something wrong with their legs or hips judging by how they are limping.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 10, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
LeBron's game has been kind of exposed in the last two games.
He can't post up. He has trouble moving without the ball in his hands.
His whole offensive game is fast breaks where he is unstoppable and taking the ball at the top of the key and penetrating to the basket.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 10, 2011, 09:30:38 AM
Does anyone know why Lebron and Wade always do their postgame interviews together? Everyone else always does theirs alone...


The Thunder did the same thing with Durant and Westbrook. I think it's a way for the team to prevent the media from creating drama. In the Thunder's instance you knew every question would be about Russell shooting too much and Kevin not enough. If you put them up there at the same time it eliminates the media from turning it into a he said she said type deal.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 10, 2011, 09:52:44 AM
The Thunder did the same thing with Durant and Westbrook. I think it's a way for the team to prevent the media from creating drama. In the Thunder's instance you knew every question would be about Russell shooting too much and Kevin not enough. If you put them up there at the same time it eliminates the media from turning it into a he said she said type deal.

Yeah, probably.  And now that you mention it, I remember Dirk and Terry doing the game 4 lakers post game together.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shortstop6 on June 11, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286 (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286)

What a couple of little bitch-ass punks.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 11, 2011, 11:09:35 AM
If there is karma in the world, they will never win a championship together.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Satchuation on June 11, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on June 11, 2011, 04:36:41 PM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Nolapigz on June 11, 2011, 05:16:19 PM
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5eyf6M0fg1qzb7vjo1_500.png)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 11, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
 :gritscoon:  :gritscoon: :gritscoon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUC-GjJh8dY&feature=player_embedded#at=268 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUC-GjJh8dY&feature=player_embedded#at=268)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on June 11, 2011, 05:33:34 PM
ask him for a dollar and he'll give you three quarters.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 11, 2011, 06:45:52 PM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 12, 2011, 07:09:41 PM
And here we go.

This one's going to be a grind.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 12, 2011, 07:30:30 PM
The video of them mocking Dirk just got some airtime. Love the way the Mavs are handling it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 12, 2011, 07:47:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Uw97lOOlk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Uw97lOOlk)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 12, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
anyone catch that Chalmers push? The refs didn't.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 12, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
fisticuffs
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 12, 2011, 08:01:24 PM
anyone catch that Chalmers push? The refs didn't.

everyone caught it.  except the refs.  it was important for miami to get back in the game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on June 12, 2011, 08:14:38 PM
How the fuck do you make it to the NBA with a shot like Shawn Marion?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 12, 2011, 08:33:36 PM
How the fuck do you make it to the NBA with a shot like Shawn Marion?

Hes not a shooter.  He is a slasher/jumper/dunker. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 12, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
Jason Terry is a man on a mission.

He said fuck the refs and Dirks choke job.  

There's no way he can keep it up in the second half.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on June 12, 2011, 08:40:33 PM
Hes not a shooter.  He is a slasher/jumper/dunker. 

Yea but damn. That shit is ugly
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 12, 2011, 08:55:12 PM
Your team is down 6, you get called for an obvious charging foul, and what is the obvious course of action?  Not to yell at the ref and get yourself a technical.  Brilliant, Wade.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 12, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
Marion has to dunk that.  Fuck a layup.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 12, 2011, 09:00:07 PM
Cardinal is a hockey goon. I love it
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 12, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
Cardinal needs to hit Millers thumbs, Wade's hip.  Anything. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: wvhawgfan on June 12, 2011, 09:11:21 PM
Now there's some world class coaching.  We've got to do it harder and we've got to do it better. No wonder people are saying Riley needs to come back and coach the Heat.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 12, 2011, 09:17:15 PM
This just in, D Wade is a good player, but is a complete bitch.  He spends more time whining to the refs, without a Tech, than anyone around.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 12, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
For a shooting guard he blocks a shit load of shots
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 12, 2011, 09:20:52 PM
Miami's feeling the heat.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 12, 2011, 09:22:47 PM
Down 8, Wade dribbles it off his foot, then next time down, James clanks it off the backboard from about 8 feet without drawing iron.  Looks like a WNBA game right now.  They will probably come back and win, because that is how these playoffs roll this year.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 12, 2011, 09:24:38 PM
Some dudes on nob are griping about how the NBA and the refs obviously want Dallas to win this series.  Fo realz.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 12, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
Are you fuckign shitting me?

Chalmers pushes off with his off arm, gets a bullshit blocking call on little white guy and they give him absurd continuation.  That was just fucking pathetic.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 12, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
Some dudes on nob are griping about how the NBA and the refs obviously want Dallas to win this series.  Fo realz.

And as I read those asinine posts, I watch Chalmers drop a shoulder and run over Berea for the and-1.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: pigtacular on June 12, 2011, 09:36:07 PM
Hilarious.  All the talent on the Heat side and NOBODY wanted the shot.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 12, 2011, 09:36:15 PM
James, the invisible man.

Dirk is just clowning these fuckers.  Granted, he walked like a motherufcker on that last one.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 12, 2011, 09:38:58 PM
James, the invisible man.

Dirk is just clowning these fuckers.  Granted, he walked like a motherufcker on that last one.

The replay going to timeout actually showed that he kept his pivot foot, in NBA terms.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: pigtacular on June 12, 2011, 09:39:37 PM
James, the invisible man.

Dirk is just clowning these frickers.  Granted, he walked like a motherufcker on that last one.

That's alright.  Wade covered 20 ft before he dribbled for the first time the prior Heat possession.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 12, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
BALL FUCKING GAME.  EAT SHIT King-Flake, D-Fade and Goofy-lookingmotherfuckerBosch.

Hats off to Cuban too.  The dude has passion for winning.  Not just making money or selling tickets, but WINNING.  He really freaking cares and had the patience and now, they have their championship.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on June 12, 2011, 10:05:55 PM
I have never liked Cuban that much but I am very impressed that he stayed quiet and that he was thoughtful enough to let the old guy Carter be there to get the trophy handed to him.

It's like he grew up somewhere along the line.  Good for him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Turd F. on June 12, 2011, 10:11:46 PM
Winning a championship is sweet but winning it over a couple of douchey, cheesy, classless pieces of aMm like Wade and LeBron makes it that much sweeter. They can eat a bag of dicks.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 12, 2011, 10:12:09 PM
Haha those flopping fucking douches got their shit handed to them. So what will the lebron apologists have to say now?  He had the talent he just has no heart and choked like a complete bitch every time in the 4th qtr.  Dirk stepped up in the 4th and terry played lights out. Glad Dirk and Kidd finally got their rings.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 12, 2011, 10:13:49 PM
Lebron.  You have been weighed and measured and you have been found wanting.....

The meltdowns and yammering is going to be classic for the next couple of days on the Espins.  I'm betting the head coach gets the axe within a week and all 3 of the Heat stars are going to have to answer for some break downs.  

There's a reason why Michael Jordan was crying like a baby when he finally won that first trophy.  Winning a championship is a really fricking hard thing to do.  James has been trying for 6 years, cry me a river.  Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone and Allen Iverson worked their asses off hard for decades between them trying to win a championship and didn't.  

I'm not a James hater or Mavs fan but you have to feel good for the Maverick players tonight.  They won with class and you can tell that they're mostly humbled by the enormity of it.  
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogEnRaged on June 12, 2011, 10:22:27 PM
How do you know you've found Lebron James' cell phone?


It vibrates and receives calls, but doesn't have a ring!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: snoots on June 12, 2011, 10:25:03 PM
Karma.  She is a bitch.  Happy for the Mavs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GoodbyePorkPieHat on June 12, 2011, 10:53:18 PM
Suck it, Heat.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Redbug on June 12, 2011, 11:18:35 PM
MONDAY: everybody celebrate

HAPPY Lebron DAY


everybody gets to leave work 12 minutes early.....IF YOU WEREN'T A NO SHOW AND TOOK THE DAY OFF



MAVS WIN......2011 NBA CHAMPIONS
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 12, 2011, 11:37:11 PM
After 17 years of rooting for the mavs...finally.

Best sports moment of my life. (I didn't start following the hogs until 98, really.)

So, so amazing. And my favorite player of all-time gets a finals MVP. Just an amazing run for a team of has-beens, never was, and one big, unstoppable german.

Props to Jason Terry. Once Dirk kinda called him out after game 3 he started playing at a whole other level.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on June 12, 2011, 11:48:59 PM
And as I read those asinine posts, I watch Chalmers drop a shoulder and run over Berea for the and-1.

Freethrow attempts at that point were 34-12 in favor of Miami.  No shit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 12, 2011, 11:49:44 PM
Props to Jason Terry. Once Dirk kinda called him out after game 3 he started playing at a whole other level.

How about Jason Terry calling LeBron out after Game 3 and then outplaying him the rest of the Finals?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on June 12, 2011, 11:51:13 PM
How about Jason Terry calling LeBron out after Game 3 and then outplaying him the rest of the Finals?

Between that and getting a tattoo of the championship trophy before the playoffs Terry has huge stones.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 12, 2011, 11:55:46 PM
Between that and getting a tattoo of the championship trophy before the playoffs Terry has huge stones.

Terry got that tattoo before the season even started. :-O
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 12, 2011, 11:55:52 PM
4th quarter of Game 4 and tonight thast sumbitch was on fire!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: BigDavis on June 12, 2011, 11:57:34 PM
This photo needs to be updated with Dirk laughing with his trophy. Hell Add Jordan in there too. :D
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on June 13, 2011, 12:05:42 AM
That photo also needs Kobe riding Shaq's and Pau Gasol's back.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: LashHog on June 13, 2011, 12:35:09 AM
RT @KingJames: The Greater Man upstairs know when it's my time. Right now isn't the time.

 if not now, when?

RT @KingJames: Now or Never!!

Guess that only leaves one option?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on June 13, 2011, 12:48:29 AM
RT @KingJames: The Greater Man upstairs know when it's my time. Right now isn't the time.

 if not now, when?

RT @KingJames: Now or Never!!

Guess that only leaves one option?

Maybe when at 6-8 250 he can post up a combo guard when his team needs points.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Satchuation on June 13, 2011, 02:01:15 AM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TexZilla on June 13, 2011, 06:31:00 AM
LeBron's press conference was more of the same shit.  I won two more than with the Cavs, I need to win two more next time.  The Mavs beat these strokes with team ball and stepping up as individuals and as teammates.
 
I would say I think LeBron is a bigger douche than Kobe, but to my knowledge LeBron has not been arrested for ass-raping a hotel desk clerk.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 13, 2011, 08:36:51 AM
i like how the germans in dirk's hometown were getting their drink on at 4 in the morning on a monday.  screw some work.   :D
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 13, 2011, 08:50:37 AM
i like how the germans in dirk's hometown were getting their drink on at 4 in the morning on a monday.  screw some work.   :D

:jealous:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 13, 2011, 09:38:54 AM
LeBron's press conference was more of the same aMm.  I won two more than with the Cavs, I need to win two more next time.  The Mavs beat these strokes with team ball and stepping up as individuals and as teammates.
 
I would say I think LeBron is a bigger douche than Kobe, but to my knowledge LeBron has not been arrested for ass-raping a hotel desk clerk.


Absolutely.....The Mavs were by far the better TEAM.  Their ball movement trumped the Heat's ability to rotate on defense.  Their zone, which is nothing special, made
the Heat take crappier shots than normal.  To me, the fact of the matter is that Lebron has no offense game....he has no intermediate jump shot, he is not comfortable in the post,  he is an average catch and shoot guy.  He has always been able to get by on his freak athleticism.   Wade is not much better.  He relies on the officials to bail him out when he goes to the basket.  Either of these two guys develop a one two jump shot...its over.  Chris Bosh is the lone guy who can actually play without the ball in his hands.  When he catches it, he can score off of one two dribbles, pull up jumpers etc.....the other two have a lot of improving to do.



Awesome to see a team as unselfish as Dallas win the championshiop
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on June 13, 2011, 11:23:21 AM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 13, 2011, 11:38:53 AM
LeBron is to guard what Shaq was to post.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 13, 2011, 11:44:16 AM
LeBron is to guard what Shaq was to post.

i hate math equations  :stache:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 13, 2011, 12:30:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eES8xEjclQ&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eES8xEjclQ&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on June 13, 2011, 12:58:13 PM
Chris Bosh is an overrated version of Lamar Odom.  He's more athletic, but not near as skilled.

If Miami is the "the big 3", the Lakers are "the best 3."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 13, 2011, 01:14:03 PM
Chris Bosh is an overrated version of Lamar Odom.  He's more athletic, but not near as skilled.

If Miami is the "the big 3", the Lakers are "the best 3."


bosh is a pathetic little princess. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TexZilla on June 13, 2011, 01:14:21 PM
Now that Miami has been exposed, a lot of teams will bend them over next year.  Last night might prove to be the closest LeBron ever gets to a ring.  We can only hope.  
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: JoeBobHog on June 13, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
i like how the germans in dirk's hometown were getting their drink on at 4 in the morning on a monday.  screw some work.   :D


I didn't see one chick at that bar.



 :notexas:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on June 13, 2011, 01:18:44 PM
i like how the germans in dirk's hometown were getting their drink on at 4 in the morning on a monday.  screw some work.   :D

It's Germany.  That's probably a normal Sunday night/Monday morning for them.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogTat on June 13, 2011, 02:09:20 PM
How do you know you've found Lebron James' cell phone?


It vibrates and receives calls, but doesn't have a ring!


LeBron Couldn't make change because he only had three quarters.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on June 13, 2011, 02:29:20 PM
just now saw lebron's comments after the game. wow
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 13, 2011, 02:31:45 PM
I was rooting against LBJ yet the way he lost was even disappointing. I didn't want to see him simply check out when it mattered the most, I wanted to see him fail in a John Starks Game 7 kind of way.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 13, 2011, 02:48:07 PM

DeShawn Stevenson shirt  :maundoed:
(http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/assets_c/2011/06/Stevenson%20shirt-thumb-400x536-115656.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 13, 2011, 02:53:10 PM
DeShawn Stevenson shirt  :maundoed:
(http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/assets_c/2011/06/Stevenson%20shirt-thumb-400x536-115656.jpg)

strong to quite strong
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 13, 2011, 02:54:50 PM
strong to quite strong

that's woopigish

 :tiw:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Turd F. on June 13, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/06/13/ohio.governor.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/06/13/ohio.governor.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp)

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- John Kasich, governor in LeBron James' home state of Ohio, has issued a resolution praising the Dallas Mavericks for their NBA title-clinching win Sunday over the Miami Heat.
Without naming James, Kasich's resolution commends the Mavericks for their "loyalty, integrity and teamwork." He also makes them honorary Ohioans.
The resolution singles out MVP Dirk Nowitzki for choosing to re-sign with the Mavericks and forego free agency in the summer of 2010, "thus remaining loyal to the team, city and fans for whom he played his entire career." James made an opposite choice by departing the Cleveland Cavaliers for Miami when he became a free agent.
The resolution says "the proud city of Cleveland and the entire state of Ohio share in the excitement of Dallas Mavericks fans everywhere."


Is it really an honor, though?

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 13, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
Whoops...
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/06/miami_herald_runs_macys_ad_con.php (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/06/miami_herald_runs_macys_ad_con.php)

(http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/assets_c/2011/06/mistakead-thumb-500x863.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 13, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
LeBron to give up basketball for the rap scene. Changing his name to 75 Cent.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 13, 2011, 05:04:51 PM
Is it really an honor, though?

Yuck. Get the Ohio off of me.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogofWar on June 13, 2011, 05:21:15 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/06/13/ohio.governor.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/06/13/ohio.governor.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp)

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- John Kasich, governor in LeBron James' home state of Ohio, has issued a resolution praising the Dallas Mavericks for their NBA title-clinching win Sunday over the Miami Heat.
Without naming James, Kasich's resolution commends the Mavericks for their "loyalty, integrity and teamwork." He also makes them honorary Ohioans.
The resolution singles out MVP Dirk Nowitzki for choosing to re-sign with the Mavericks and forego free agency in the summer of 2010, "thus remaining loyal to the team, city and fans for whom he played his entire career." James made an opposite choice by departing the Cleveland Cavaliers for Miami when he became a free agent.
The resolution says "the proud city of Cleveland and the entire state of Ohio share in the excitement of Dallas Mavericks fans everywhere."


Is it really an honor, though?



Well, since neither tOSU, nor Tressel is honorable, they had to give it to somebody.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mike Slive on June 13, 2011, 05:26:34 PM
DeShawn Stevenson shirt  :maundoed:
(http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/assets_c/2011/06/Stevenson%20shirt-thumb-400x536-115656.jpg)

HDNet representing.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: BOAR WAR on June 13, 2011, 06:23:52 PM
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2011/06/12/2015305140.jpg)

Black men can't jump?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: wvhawgfan on June 13, 2011, 06:46:41 PM
After listening to the post game comments from the "big 3", maybe making basketball players go to college isn't such a bad idea.  At least Bosh and Wade would form almost correct sentences when answering questions.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogTat on June 13, 2011, 06:48:58 PM
After listening to the post game comments from the "big 3", maybe making basketball players go to college isn't such a bad idea.  At least Bosh and Wade would form almost correct sentences when answering questions.

LeBron skipped college because he knew he wouldn't show up for the finals.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Nukinhawg on June 13, 2011, 06:53:38 PM
LeBron skipped college because he knew he wouldn't show up for the finals.

That is some funny shit right there.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 13, 2011, 09:08:11 PM
Classy move by Cuban letting the previous owner accept the trophy.  Very classy.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on June 14, 2011, 05:53:27 AM
LeBron skipped college because he knew he wouldn't show up for the finals.

high five
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 14, 2011, 09:24:32 AM
Classy move by Cuban letting the previous owner accept the trophy.  Very classy.



Really why?

I don't get why that's classy

Because he's old?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 14, 2011, 09:33:44 AM


Really why?

I don't get why that's classy

Because he's old?

Pretty sure that's the original owner of the franchise... so that was a pretty special moment.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Turd F. on June 14, 2011, 10:49:06 AM
He's the original owner of the franchise and is still a minority owner.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Chigurh on June 14, 2011, 10:57:06 AM
Without googlemuthafuckaing, isn't Ross Perot the former majority and current minority owner of the Mavs?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Turd F. on June 14, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
Just looking at Cuban's Wikipedia page, Perot Jr. retained 5% ownership in the team, but he and Cuban aren't pals. 

"In May 2010, H. Ross Perot, Jr. who retained 5% ownership filed a lawsuit against Cuban alleging the franchise was insolvent or in imminent danger of insolvency. In June 2010, Cuban responded in a court filing maintaining Perot is wrongly seeking money to offset some $100 million in losses on the Victory Park real estate development."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: RazorbackDad on June 14, 2011, 12:56:01 PM
Did you hear about Lebron James day in Dallas? Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jose Papoopoo on June 14, 2011, 01:06:12 PM
Did you hear about Lebron James day in Dallas? Everyone gets to leave work 12 minutes early.

Solid :thumbup:.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on June 14, 2011, 03:04:26 PM
He's the original owner of the franchise and is still a minority owner.

Don Carter brought the Mavs to Texas because his wife Linda (that's right, Linda Carter) was a huge basketball fan and grew up in Arkansas playing it.  Carter sold the team to Perot Jr who was stingy and wouldn't spend a dime he didn't have to, and Perot Jr sold it to Cuban and kept at 5% itnerest.  He sued Cuban for not maximizing profits by spending too much on payroll to try to win a championship.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 14, 2011, 05:46:13 PM


Really why?

I don't get why that's classy

Because he's old?

Someone else already explained it, but Don Carter also isn't just some guy with money. He sits court side at every game.  So he might have sold the mavs, but he never really left. Very classy, IMO.  And a sign that Cuban may be growing up some.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: BigDavis on June 14, 2011, 06:31:31 PM
Don Carter brought the Mavs to Texas because his wife Linda (that's right, Linda Carter) was a huge basketball fan and grew up in Arkansas playing it.  Carter sold the team to Perot Jr who was stingy and wouldn't spend a dime he didn't have to, and Perot Jr sold it to Cuban and kept at 5% itnerest.  He sued Cuban for not maximizing profits by spending too much on payroll to try to win a championship.

Linda Carter of Wonder Woman fame? Thought she was from Arizona.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 15, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: WPFM on June 16, 2011, 08:54:20 AM
Live coverage of Mavericks victory parade in downtown Dallas today beginning at 10 a.m.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20110614-live-coverage-watch-the-mavericks_victory-parade-discuss-the-event-live.ece (http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20110614-live-coverage-watch-the-mavericks_victory-parade-discuss-the-event-live.ece)


This should go well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcrip6CdbuY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcrip6CdbuY)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 16, 2011, 05:20:51 PM
I didn't get much work done today between 10am and 2pm.  The parade was kinda boring. Dirk leading the crowd in an impromptu recital of "We are the champions" was pretty awkward.

But the celebration thing they did inside the American Airlines Center was very, very cool.

The best part of the whole day was Rick Carlisle talking about Dirk.  He was rattling off the names that Dirk had joined by having been an MVP, finals MVP, and NBA champion.  Quite an illustrious group of players.  Anyway, this prompts the crowd to start chanting "MVP! MVP," and the rest of the Mavs join in as well.  Dirk's just sitting there waving at first and then you instantly see what sets him apart from most superstars in today's society.  He is SO humble and appreciative of every honor.  He starts to cry.  Best player in the world arguably right now having to fight back tears because he's finally reached the mountain top.

Great moment for me as a Mavs fan.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on June 16, 2011, 05:27:18 PM
I was a little off in my recollection of Carlisle's speech, but you can see what I'm talking about here. Fast forward to the 2:30 mark or so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2ge6fXOMc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2ge6fXOMc)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ColumbusHawg on June 23, 2011, 11:26:06 AM
Don Carter brought the Mavs to Texas because his wife Linda (that's right, Linda Carter) was a huge basketball fan and grew up in Arkansas playing it.  Carter sold the team to Perot Jr who was stingy and wouldn't spend a dime he didn't have to, and Perot Jr sold it to Cuban and kept at 5% itnerest.  He sued Cuban for not maximizing profits by spending too much on payroll to try to win a championship.

Now Cuban has filed a motion for summary judgment.  Quite humorous.  Document on the link.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/58470086/2011-06-22-WC-Mavs-and-Radical-Mavs-Mngt-MSJ (http://www.scribd.com/doc/58470086/2011-06-22-WC-Mavs-and-Radical-Mavs-Mngt-MSJ)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 23, 2011, 12:43:22 PM
Quite possibly the least talented draft ever will occur tonight.  Are there any Hogs SEC players, outside of Kentucky, that will be drafted?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on June 23, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
Now Cuban has filed a motion for summary judgment.  Quite humorous.  Document on the link.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/58470086/2011-06-22-WC-Mavs-and-Radical-Mavs-Mngt-MSJ (http://www.scribd.com/doc/58470086/2011-06-22-WC-Mavs-and-Radical-Mavs-Mngt-MSJ)

What's great is that Perot is going to have to respond to that with a serious Response explaining why a championship is not a guarantee of good management and then Cuban can file a Reply with a picture of him flicking Perot off.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogustus on June 23, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
picture of him flicking Perot off.

Like the booger he is?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on June 23, 2011, 04:45:39 PM
Now Cuban has filed a motion for summary judgment.  Quite humorous.  Document on the link.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/58470086/2011-06-22-WC-Mavs-and-Radical-Mavs-Mngt-MSJ (http://www.scribd.com/doc/58470086/2011-06-22-WC-Mavs-and-Radical-Mavs-Mngt-MSJ)

The picture of the championship is gold, Jerry.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogofWar on June 30, 2011, 02:52:53 PM
NBA Lockout

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6723645 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6723645)

NEW YORK -- NBA players are locked out, possibly jeopardizing next season.

Union chief Billy Hunter said Thursday afternoon that owners had locked out the players after failing to reach a new collective bargaining agreement.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 30, 2011, 11:07:42 PM
Welcome to the new http://NBA.com
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on October 10, 2011, 10:01:21 PM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on October 11, 2011, 07:09:53 AM
They play too many games anyway.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on October 11, 2011, 07:25:32 AM
Lets see.  Revenue sharing is 57% right now, by the players?  The owners want it at 50-50? 

Whether the numbers are exact or not...one can look and see that there IS a number that will be mutually acceptable.  Ah well.  I don't watch until the playoffs anyway.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogtired on October 11, 2011, 07:59:22 AM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on October 11, 2011, 08:01:24 AM
Who cares!
Me!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on October 14, 2011, 07:29:59 PM
I like the NBA but even I don't give a damn if they cancel the first 2 months. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pork Soda on October 14, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
I like the NBA but even I don't give a damn if they cancel the first 2 months.

Other than ticket sales so they can pay Lebrons his hunnerd-bajillion dollars a year, I don't see why the NBA plays so damned many games.  It's almost as bad as major league baseball.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Denny Crane on October 14, 2011, 09:26:58 PM
Other than ticket sales so they can pay Lebrons his hunnerd-bajillion dollars a year, I don't see why the NBA plays so damned many games.  It's almost as bad as major league baseball.

They play almost exactly half the games of MLB. And NBA games are over in 2 hours or so compared to the 3+ hour MLB affairs.

It's nowhere near as bad as MLB.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on October 15, 2011, 05:40:05 AM
I don't know for sure, but I think hockey is worse than both of them.  Talk about hundreds of games that no one is watching....


I'm guessing that any SEC game on Espn or CBS now outdraws MLB postseason games.  I'd bet more people watch the Lions play this Sunday than will watch one of the games in this World Series. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 14, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
And it appears there will not be a season this year.

SB Nation
Breaking News: NBA players reject owner's latest offer, Billy Hunter says players will file antitrust action against the NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on November 14, 2011, 01:05:43 PM
1. The players are wrong.
2. They just killed the NBA for a while. It won't recover for a long time.

**Unless they work out something and salvage a 50 game season.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 14, 2011, 01:07:31 PM
Chris Mannix
Players reject deal, will decertify. In my opinion, season will be lost
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogofWar on November 14, 2011, 01:07:57 PM
And it appears there will not be a season this year.

SB Nation
Breaking News: NBA players reject owner's latest offer, Billy Hunter says players will file antitrust action against the NBA.


Ah, that's too bad. ::)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on November 14, 2011, 01:19:59 PM
And it appears there will not be a season this year.

SB Nation
Breaking News: NBA players reject owner's latest offer, Billy Hunter says players will file antitrust action against the NBA.


(http://hungryplanet.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/yes_logo.png)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ham Malone on November 14, 2011, 01:23:29 PM
I'll miss the NBA.  I'm not a huge fan but it is nice to be able to watch a game while sitting at a bar, and the NBA playoffs are always exciting.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on November 14, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
Dallas Mavericks: 2011 and 2012 NBA champions!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Turd F. on November 14, 2011, 02:21:46 PM
Dallas Mavericks: 2011 and 2012 NBA champions!

Damn straight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hognarok on November 14, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
1. The players are wrong.
2. They just killed the NBA for a while. It won't recover for a long time.

**Unless they work out something and salvage a 50 game season.

In my limited experience at the negotiating table you don't tell someone to take an offer or else the next one will be worse.  Yes you can try to argue that you will have the high ground if the case makes it to the courtroom maybe and the opposing party should take the offer now, but threatening to follow a lowball offer with an even lower ball (haha) offer doesn't seem to qualify as negotiating in good faith.

In any case I'm more interested in the neotiating than the actual NBA season anyways.  It involves less whining and a lot more defense.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on November 14, 2011, 03:10:09 PM
In my limited experience at the negotiating table you don't tell someone to take an offer or else the next one will be worse.  Yes you can try to argue that you will have the high ground if the case makes it to the courtroom maybe and the opposing party should take the offer now, but threatening to follow a lowball offer with an even lower ball (haha) offer doesn't seem to qualify as negotiating in good faith.

In any case I'm more interested in the neotiating than the actual NBA season anyways.  It involves less whining and a lot more defense.
They should have taken it, because the owners can afford to bleed in this scenario and the players cannot. Well, MOST players.

Here's the deal in a nutshell: The owners are sick of bleeding money to overpaid players. Small market teams are having a hard time competing with teams that can afford to pay the tax for going over the cap. Now, the owners aren't going broke on value. Their franchises are increasing in worth, but worth is worthless if you don't have the cashflow to keep operating. The owners are just losing less money now that they don't have to pay guys like Rashard Lewis and his ridiculous contract.

Who's at fault? Both sides.

Who will win a standoff? The owners. They have the real money.

Who loses? The players and the fans.

What needs to happen? 50-50 split, soft cap, better revenue sharing, and age restrictions.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hognarok on November 14, 2011, 03:22:33 PM
They should have taken it, because the owners can afford to bleed in this scenario and the players cannot. Well, MOST players.

Here's the deal in a nutshell: The owners are sick of bleeding money to overpaid players. Small market teams are having a hard time competing with teams that can afford to pay the tax for going over the cap. Now, the owners aren't going broke on value. Their franchises are increasing in worth, but worth is worthless if you don't have the cashflow to keep operating. The owners are just losing less money now that they don't have to pay guys like Rashard Lewis and his ridiculous contract.

Who's at fault? Both sides.

Who will win a standoff? The owners. They have the real money.

Who loses? The players and the fans.

What needs to happen? 50-50 split, soft cap, better revenue sharing, and age restrictions.

So basically the owners are trying to punish the players because they just couldn't stop offering the big name players ludicrous contracts?  Not to mention that by drawing up said contracts the owners are killing off any chance of real parity in the league.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: pulled pork butt on November 14, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
The NBA deal is more than fair in my opinion. I would love to hear of any of you Woopiggers who could go to your boss, company etc and demand 50% split of the profits! We'd all be out of a job immediately as soon as they could get up off the floor from laughing so hard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on November 14, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
So basically the owners are trying to punish the players because they just couldn't stop offering the big name players ludicrous contracts?  Not to mention that by drawing up said contracts the owners are killing off any chance of real parity in the league.
No. A few small market guys really wanted to win, and they overpaid for mid level talent. The deal is this:

The owners can bleed because they are bleeding less than when the players are playing. Sure, they might gain equity, but equity won't buy anything but future dreams.

The players were stupid in not taking the deal. Hunter and Fish are mainly to blame. Well, the whole CBA agreed on the past two times is to blame as well. This deal they turned down was fair. It would have ensured long term stability. Now they are in danger of possible retraction and up to 25% of their players never playing in the league again. It's a huge loss for both sides, but the players are fucked. The owners will not budge.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Mutual of Omahog on November 14, 2011, 09:54:42 PM
The owners can hold out a lot longer than the players who have blown more money than most of us would see in a lifetime. It's like Chris Rock said, "Shaq is rich, but the guy who pays Shaq is wealthy."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on November 14, 2011, 10:31:34 PM
So I avoid the NBA like the plague for over 10 years, then last year I kind of get into the Thunder and the Mavs and rooting against Lebron and get to where I enjoy watching it again, and now this.

Hard to pick a side in a battle between millionaires and billionaires for me.

Oh well, more time for hockey.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on November 14, 2011, 11:28:35 PM
No. A few small market guys really wanted to win, and they overpaid for mid level talent. The deal is this:

The owners can bleed because they are bleeding less than when the players are playing. Sure, they might gain equity, but equity won't buy anything but future dreams.

The players were stupid in not taking the deal. Hunter and Fish are mainly to blame. Well, the whole CBA agreed on the past two times is to blame as well. This deal they turned down was fair. It would have ensured long term stability. Now they are in danger of possible retraction and up to 25% of their players never playing in the league again. It's a huge loss for both sides, but the players are fricked. The owners will not budge.

It just goes to show that NBA players are not the brightest bulbs in the auditorium.  You work in a profession that has a very short career life and you just throw away one of those years for what?  For pride?  Principle?  For your manhood?  They are not going to win an anti-trust lawsuit, and when they do sign a contract for basically what they were just offered they will never be able to make up for what they lost in revenue this year. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: notaslibro on November 14, 2011, 11:51:14 PM
I don't mean to go all Gumbel on everybody, but. . .

Slavery did not devolve into the slaves owning the plantations.  It gave way to sharecropping.  An established industry is an established industry.  Diminish the workforce all you want.  The market won't truly collapse until the customer base throws in the towel.  Metaphor, simile, and such.  What about the like, have, and is to/as is to?  Carry the five.

Amen.



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bleedinred on November 15, 2011, 06:51:32 AM
I don't mean to go all Gumbel on everybody, but. . .

Slavery did not devolve into the slaves owning the plantations.  It gave way to sharecropping.  An established industry is an established industry.  Diminish the workforce all you want.  The market won't truly collapse until the customer base throws in the towel.  Metaphor, simile, and such.  What about the like, have, and is to/as is to?  Carry the five.

Amen.

I wish, for once, you could communicate on our level.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pork Soda on November 15, 2011, 06:59:25 AM
I wish, for once, you could communicate on our level.

I enjoy the challenge.  I think it must be like trying to decipher hieroglyphics or something.  Keeps my mind 'sharp'.  And by sharp, I mean roughly bowling-ball shape.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on November 15, 2011, 07:11:46 AM
The players provide the talent though.  Maybe they should have taken the deal;  I'm not really following it that closely. 

No one will go to an NBA game with scrubs.  If the players had any brains at all, they'd pool their money instead of spending it on bling and crappy business deals and start up a club league for the winter and strengthen their position while trying to make some money. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: notaslibro on November 15, 2011, 07:32:26 AM
The players provide the talent though.  Maybe they should have taken the deal;  I'm not really following it that closely. 

No one will go to an NBA game with scrubs.  If the players had any brains at all, they'd pool their money instead of spending it on bling and crappy business deals and start up a club league for the winter and strengthen their position while trying to make some money.

That's the problem.  The NBA and its owners have spent decades running and promoting global corporations.  The NBA players have spent ten or twenty years playing basketball.  Guess which side is better prepared to go forward?  I'm not saying the NBA can replace players with scrubs and not miss a beat, but that's far more likely than the players forming an independent league.

The players need the NBA more than it needs them.



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on November 15, 2011, 07:33:48 AM
There's going to be some entourages looking for work real soon.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 15, 2011, 08:43:08 AM
darren rovell
Today is the 1st day of NBA players missing paychecks. The avg NBA player will lose $220,000 today.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on November 15, 2011, 08:52:43 AM
darren rovell
Today is the 1st day of NBA players missing paychecks. The avg NBA player will lose $220,000 today.

The average NBA owner just saved over 3 million....

Okay, not really. But when the income from your product is bringing you less cash flow than what you are putting into your product, then the system is flawed and it won't sustain. The NBA owners are saving money by not losing as much right now.

And the dumbass players can't seem to understand that.

This situation is no big deal to superstars and guys that have 10+ into the league and have managed their money well....and that number is extremely low.

Maybe if the players had been wiser, saved and invested their money, then more people would feel empathy for them. But their demonstrative spending and egregious behavior have given them a huge black eye that Stern and his office have been trying to fix for years (dress code, cracking down on on and off court behavior).

For competitive balance, there has to be revenue sharing and spending caps. Of course the major market programs don't want that, but without it, the league will suffer and you'll continually see moving of teams from Vancouver back to Charlotte to Oklahoma City to Seattle to well, you get the idea.

I'm with the owners. Almost completely.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 15, 2011, 08:58:38 AM

I'm with the owners. Almost completely.
Totally disagree.

So we are supposed to side with the owners? The same guys who made Joe Johnson the highest paid player in the association?

The number of ridiculous contracts are astounding and the owners are to blame for this. The owners are the bad guys, the players are the morons.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jdcatty on November 15, 2011, 09:59:37 AM
So what is this "NBA" of which you speak?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on November 15, 2011, 10:21:10 AM
Totally disagree.

So we are supposed to side with the owners? The same guys who made Joe Johnson the highest paid player in the association?

The number of ridiculous contracts are astounding and the owners are to blame for this. The owners are the bad guys, the players are the morons.

For small market teams to lure free agents they have to overspend on iffy talent.  Pllayers took less money to go to Miami, nobody is going to do that to go to Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc.  And if you're an owner that refuses to pay those outrageous salaries then you get grief from your fans on why they should pay those high ticket prices when you're not even trying to get good players in.  And you can't build through the draft like you can in football because if you do luck out and get Lebron without any type of salary cap as soon as he's a free agent he's gone.

The main point though is the owners have the leverage and the jobs and the players have none. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hognarok on November 15, 2011, 10:36:02 AM


For competitive balance, there has to be revenue sharing and spending caps. Of course the major market programs don't want that, but without it, the league will suffer and you'll continually see moving of teams from Vancouver back to Charlotte to Oklahoma City to Seattle to well, you get the idea.

I'm with the owners. Almost completely.

These two statements don't make sense.

The major markets are going to keep making money and the smaller markets are going to continue to be screwed because they don't have the money to compete.  But when the smaller markets need more money to try to do so they decide that money is going to come from the players instead of the major markets.  And yet the players are at fault?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on November 15, 2011, 10:46:48 AM
These two statements don't make sense.

The major markets are going to keep making money and the smaller markets are going to continue to be screwed because they don't have the money to compete.  But when the smaller markets need more money to try to do so they decide that money is going to come from the players instead of the major markets.  And yet the players are at fault?
No. The players are not at fault. Their agents and overzealous owners/GM's are at fault. That's why I still have a little sympathy for the players.

But when it comes to revenue being split 50/50, and the other things that were on the table in the proposal, the players were stupid for not taking the deal.

The next deal proposed will not be as good, and the owners are prepared to lock them out for a long time.

People are competitive. Fans demand an effort to win. Owners may give in and make a push to try to win. That's why you see contracts like the one Joe Johnson, Rashard Lewis, and others got. Major market teams that could afford the penalty for spending over the cap were offering large amounts to these players. Mid market teams did what they could to hang on and not get completely dominated in talent level. Yet, their overall talent level still couldn't keep up with the big boys. It's a vicious cycle, and it's one that was not sustainable. The players have to see it that way. The league cannot survive if it's losing money annually, and it was. The owners had a plan to stop the bleeding, keep paying it's employees, and looking at the overall health of the league going forward. The problem? The players are only thinking about themselves. I really don't think the majority of them understand how in danger many of the owners are from going belly-up and not having any suitors lined up to buy the franchise. Franchise values have stagnated and what owners want to lose money with no gain in equity?

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 15, 2011, 12:29:14 PM
No. The players are not at fault. Their agents and overzealous owners/GM's are at fault. That's why I still have a little sympathy for the players.

But when it comes to revenue being split 50/50, and the other things that were on the table in the proposal, the players were stupid for not taking the deal.

The next deal proposed will not be as good, and the owners are prepared to lock them out for a long time.

People are competitive. Fans demand an effort to win. Owners may give in and make a push to try to win. That's why you see contracts like the one Joe Johnson, Rashard Lewis, and others got. Major market teams that could afford the penalty for spending over the cap were offering large amounts to these players. Mid market teams did what they could to hang on and not get completely dominated in talent level. Yet, their overall talent level still couldn't keep up with the big boys. It's a vicious cycle, and it's one that was not sustainable. The players have to see it that way. The league cannot survive if it's losing money annually, and it was. The owners had a plan to stop the bleeding, keep paying it's employees, and looking at the overall health of the league going forward. The problem? The players are only thinking about themselves. I really don't think the majority of them understand how in danger many of the owners are from going belly-up and not having any suitors lined up to buy the franchise. Franchise values have stagnated and what owners want to lose money with no gain in equity?
Strangely I agree with all of this and still hate the owners.

The NBA needs to contract 2-4 teams IMO. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on November 15, 2011, 12:45:50 PM
Strangely I agree with all of this and still hate the owners.

The NBA needs to contract 2-4 teams IMO.
I wish they could, but how do you propose that? External audit of franchise valuation then the league paying the owner and franchise to go away? 2-4 times?

Sports salaries are so out of whack. In all sports. It's absolutely ridiculous.


The NBA should be grateful they don't have the same type of CBA the NFL has toward player contracts.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hognarok on November 15, 2011, 01:47:33 PM
The players need the NBA more than it needs them.

After going back and reading multiple articles on what exactly went wrong I've come to two conclusions.  One, the owners went into this thing with the intent of taking advantage of the above statement at all costs.  And two, the players union had no real plan of action and apparently had the wrong people handling this from the start.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-111115/writers-fans-break-latest-nba-lockout-fallout

Armed only with the information we have thus far, it certainly doesn't seem that way. The players have made very real, substantive concessions relative to the last collective bargaining agreement, while the owners began negotiating from an outlandish position and have simply dubbed the adoption of a more reasonable stance as an equal concession. Both sides deserve blame for the current situation, but the players' efforts to negotiate have seemed a bit more genuine.

http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/7237512/save-us-nba-commissioner-david-stern

Case in point: Prefacing a proposal by saying that if it's rejected, every subsequent proposal is going to get progressively worse. In truth, that's not negotiating at all. In most bargaining rooms, he would have been called an extortionist and tossed into the hallway. In certain circles, it's called blackmail.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/11/15/2563056/nba-lockout-2011-david-stern-players

Just last week, even after the players capitulated to a 50-50 deal and agreed to eliminate the owners' annual economic risks, the owners had the arrogance to demand system changes that would eliminate their managements risks just the same. That's when their attitude was really laid bare.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/11/15/nba.labor/index.html?sct=nba_t11_a0

They heard the endless ultimatums from commissioner David Stern that almost always came with condescending tones, the latest being a promise of a drastically worse "reset" offer if the current proposal was declined. Those players with the most power -- from union president Derek Fisher to the eight other members of the executive committee -- bristled when they studied the specifics of a deal. They saw the rules relating to the proposed luxury tax as an attempt to sneak a hard cap into their house. They fumed at the D-League idea in which players' contracts could be circumvented. And while that clause was not in the formal proposal, it showed once again how tone deaf the owners must be and was seen as the latest middle finger from the league.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/16119643/nba-players-take-stern-to-court-do-they-know-what-theyre-getting-into

The owners pushed too hard, demanded too much, sought absolute victory to the point where they are going to wind up beating themselves. A $3 billion shift from players to owners by lowering player salaries from 57 percent of revenues to 50 percent -- a $300 million annual giveback, all of the money the owners said they were losing -- wasn't enough. The owners sent Stern in for blood, and he's got it now -- all over him.

The players? What was described Monday at the Westin Times Square -- site of the infamous blowup of talks over the BRI split on Oct. 4 -- had the feeling of a pre-ordained act to remove Hunter from power and transform this fiasco from a pointless staredown into the mother of all antitrust lawsuits.


The way I see it is that the owners and players were negotiating over something that costs $50.00.  The owners initially asked $75.00 for it and the players countered $25.00.  The owners asked for $74.00 the players offered $35.00.  Owners - $73.00, Players - $40.00.  Etc. until you have the players willing to pay $55.00 for a $50.00 object and the owners are still asking $70.00 for it.  Then the owners said, "we're going to offer it to you for $65.00 and you better take it or else the price is going to go to $80.00."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 26, 2011, 09:12:09 AM
Looks like an agreement has been reached.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on November 26, 2011, 10:15:43 AM
probably when the season should start anyway, does anybody really care until after football anyway?

When was the last time anything was determined before the first of the year anyway, unless somebody important happened to get injured or something?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on November 26, 2011, 10:17:34 AM
probably when the season should start anyway, does anybody really care until after football anyway?

When was the last time anything was determined before the first of the year anyway, unless somebody important happened to get injured or something?

not really.

Christmas day is usually when I start watching.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on November 30, 2011, 07:46:38 AM
"Uhhh we got one in Tulsa"


http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2011/11/29/tbj-tour-video-seattle-gets-back-the-thunder/
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on November 30, 2011, 08:51:55 AM
Opening day on Christmas and Dallas hosts Miami and will be hanging up their championship banner.

Should be a very interesting game.  Wish it was a different day, I'd like to go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 01, 2011, 01:36:14 PM
Lots of info floating around The Association.

Chris Paul wants to be traded to NYK? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-chris_paul_hornets_knicks_nba_trade_120111)

Grizz owner Heisley wants the best Gasol to stay in Memphis. (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/dec/01/heisley-gasol-will-be-grizzly/)

Deron Williams won't sign extention to stay in Jersey. (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7303109/deron-williams-agent-says-client-sign-extension-nets)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 01, 2011, 01:39:23 PM
Lots of info floating around The Association.

Chris Paul wants to be traded to NYK? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-chris_paul_hornets_knicks_nba_trade_120111)

Grizz owner Heisley wants the best Gasol to stay in Memphis. (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/dec/01/heisley-gasol-will-be-grizzly/)

Deron Williams won't sign extention to stay in Jersey. (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7303109/deron-williams-agent-says-client-sign-extension-nets)
And of course, when will Dwight Howard put on a Laker jersey?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on December 01, 2011, 01:41:17 PM
Lots of info floating around The Association.

Chris Paul wants to be traded to NYK? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-chris_paul_hornets_knicks_nba_trade_120111)

Grizz owner Heisley wants the best Gasol to stay in Memphis. (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/dec/01/heisley-gasol-will-be-grizzly/)

Deron Williams won't sign extention to stay in Jersey. (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7303109/deron-williams-agent-says-client-sign-extension-nets)

you forgot the other question floating around...

Who gives a shit about the NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 01, 2011, 01:44:45 PM
And of course, when will Dwight Howard put on a Laker jersey?

yeah that story should heat up pretty soon.

This Paul story is interesting because the Knicks don't have shit to trade. The NBA owns the Hornets so not sure how this will work out. I'm sure the owners in the East don't exactly want the Knicks to all of a sudden have Melo, Amare and Paul and give the Hornets a bunch of trash back.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 08, 2011, 05:14:15 PM
CBSSports CBS Sports
BREAKING: Chris Paul to the Lakers is "done," league executive briefed on the deal tells @CBSSports. (via @KBergCBS)


Reported deal is Paul to Lakers for the old Gasol and Odom. Lakers still have Bynum to dangle in front of Orlando for Howard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 05:25:31 PM
CBSSports CBS Sports
BREAKING: Chris Paul to the Lakers is "done," league executive briefed on the deal tells @CBSSports. (via @KBergCBS)


Reported deal is Paul to Lakers for the old Gasol and Odom. Lakers still have Bynum to dangle in front of Orlando for Howard.

/pants stiffening
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on December 08, 2011, 06:09:21 PM
Hey, Khloe! Pack the Twizzlers and Jolly Ranchers. We goin' to New Orleans!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Gin on December 08, 2011, 06:11:45 PM
Hey, Khloe! Pack the Twizzlers and Jolly Ranchers. We goin' to New Orleans!
Lamar, Kim dumped Reggie and he moved to the Marlins!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 07:56:05 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.



 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 08, 2011, 07:57:29 PM

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/Popcorn-01-Michael-Jackson.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 08:02:06 PM
The NBA owns the hornets and they are looking for a buyer. A Hornet squad sans CP3 isn't near as attractive. Not surprised the deal has been squashed.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 08, 2011, 08:04:10 PM
Frankly I don't see how the Hornets can make a deal like that without an owner. I mean, the league (i.e. the owners) collectively own the Hornets. While the trade is fair I think, doesn't that greatly alter the value of the team? And really, you're going to have to flip old Gasol and Odom for cheaper players anyway so I think it's best to get an owner in there to do all of this.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 08:08:48 PM
Frankly I don't see how the Hornets can make a deal like that without an owner. I mean, the league (i.e. the owners) collectively own the Hornets. While the trade is fair I think, doesn't that greatly alter the value of the team? And really, you're going to have to flip old Gasol and Odom for cheaper players anyway so I think it's best to get an owner in there to do all of this.
Winner
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Denny Crane on December 08, 2011, 08:09:26 PM
Frankly I don't see how the Hornets can make a deal like that without an owner. I mean, the league (i.e. the owners) collectively own the Hornets. While the trade is fair I think, doesn't that greatly alter the value of the team? And really, you're going to have to flip old Gasol and Odom for cheaper players anyway so I think it's best to get an owner in there to do all of this.

If the trade is fair, as you say, why would it diminish the value of the franchise?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 08:17:33 PM
If the trade is fair, as you say, why would it diminish the value of the franchise?
Fair on the hardwood and fair in the market are two different things.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Denny Crane on December 08, 2011, 08:21:21 PM
Fair on the hardwood and fair in the market are two different things.

Hard to agree with that.

Paul's gone after next year....no matter what. That fact will already be reflected in the value of a franchise whenever a buyer presents itself. Getting some pieces to build around might actually increase the price, instead of just losing him and getting nothing in return.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 08:23:57 PM
Hard to agree with that.

Paul's gone after next year....no matter what. That fact will already be reflected in the value of a franchise whenever a buyer presents itself. Getting some pieces to build around might actually increase the price, instead of just losing him and getting nothing in return.
Unless you get the owner to move the team to Vegas which should have been done already. That may convince Paul to stay.

Anyway Stern has lost control of this league.


And I like this GIF


(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/517013/nbalakersfan.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: crote on December 08, 2011, 08:24:57 PM
Frankly I don't see how the Hornets can make a deal like that without an owner. I mean, the league (i.e. the owners) collectively own the Hornets. While the trade is fair I think, doesn't that greatly alter the value of the team? And really, you're going to have to flip old Gasol and Odom for cheaper players anyway so I think it's best to get an owner in there to do all of this.

Paul is gone after this season regardless, so a trade that gets 90 cents on the dollar for Paul instead of zero does more to preserve the value of the team than waiting until a buyer for the teams shows up.  If anything, this would add stability to the Hornets and enhance their value beyond this season.

Also, for the record, the trade isn't (wasn't) Paul for Gasol and Odom.  It is (was) a three way trade with Houston:

Lakers get Paul
Rockets get Gasol
Hornets get Odom from the Lakers and a pretty decent pupu platter (Scola, Kevin Martin, a draft pick) from the Rockets
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 08, 2011, 08:25:53 PM
Whoa, didn't realize all the teams involved.

Hornets are lucky, they weren't getting a ton back
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: crote on December 08, 2011, 08:26:56 PM
Hard to agree with that.

Paul's gone after next year....no matter what. That fact will already be reflected in the value of a franchise whenever a buyer presents itself. Getting some pieces to build around might actually increase the price, instead of just losing him and getting nothing in return.

What this guy said.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 08, 2011, 08:27:19 PM
J.A. Adande
The NBA should just save time and pre-emptively void Dwight Howard to the Lakers tonight as well.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 08, 2011, 08:34:27 PM
I understand they have to get something for Paul.

I'm surprised the owners let them negotiate trades if they were just going to pull the plug.

Are they close to having an owner in NO? They better hurry because they can't let Paul walk, franchise isn't worth shit at that point.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 08, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
@ChrisVernonShow
At least this makes it easier for Lamar and Chyna to stay married

 :maundoed:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on December 08, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
Khloe and lots of gumbo would have been a disaster.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TravelHog on December 09, 2011, 08:41:12 AM
You think it stinks down there now...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on December 09, 2011, 09:07:29 AM
Hopefully this fricks the Lakers and Colby Bryant like a hot-box Colorado blonde.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on December 09, 2011, 09:16:44 AM
@ChrisVernonShow
At least this makes it easier for Lamar and Chyna to stay married

 :maundoed:

allsome
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 09, 2011, 11:56:07 AM
Golden State guard shows up drunk at his hearing for drunk driving. (http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_19506241?source=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

Also, we have a mess in Orlando today. Dwight Howard is reportedly going to ask for a trade to the Nets. Orlando might file tampering charges against the Nets on a report Howard (who is under contract) met with the Nets last night in Miami.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Old Dirty Boarstard on December 09, 2011, 12:04:39 PM
the big losers here are the Hornets. The best player they've ever had is about to leave next year and they are going to get nothing for him.  this was their chance to at least try to salvage something and build for the future. they'll be a bottom feeder in 2013.   
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pork Soda on December 09, 2011, 12:22:25 PM
the big losers here are the Hornets. The best player they've ever had is about to leave next year and they are going to get nothing for him.  this was their chance to at least try to salvage something and build for the future. they'll be a bottom feeder in 2013.

Orlando will be just as bad off, if not worse.  They've made a mess of their salary cap position and will likely have to trade their center-piece for a bunch of garbage.  The NBA consists of about half a dozen teams and about a 24-team farm league.  I'm glad I'm waking to that realization finally and can stop paying any attention.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 09, 2011, 01:54:43 PM
Orlando will be just as bad off, if not worse.  They've made a mess of their salary cap position and will likely have to trade their center-piece for a bunch of garbage.

Salary cap position got a little better with this:

@stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
The Orlando Magic have waived Gilbert Arenas using their one-time Amnesty exception --- bit.ly/rIxtFf
4 minutes ago via TweetDeck


If they can make someone take Turkoglu with Howard, they'd be in good shape with the cap. Also, they traded Brandon Bass to Boston for Big Baby Davis today. Retarded move that makes JJ Reddick your 2nd best player if Howard leaves. Ouch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pork Soda on December 09, 2011, 01:58:02 PM
Salary cap position got a little better with this:

@stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
The Orlando Magic have waived Gilbert Arenas using their one-time Amnesty exception --- bit.ly/rIxtFf
4 minutes ago via TweetDeck


If they can make someone take Turkoglu with Howard, they'd be in good shape with the cap. Also, they traded Brandon Bass to Boston for Big Baby Davis today. Retarded move that makes JJ Reddick your 2nd best player if Howard leaves. Ouch.

Eh, Bass wasn't that great.  He had a tendency to eat the ball on possessions and never pass.  Davis is a bit better defender, IMHO, and is much better at passing -- or at least attempting to.  I see this as a lateral, and apparently Davis was a guy that Howard wanted for some reason.

I'm glad to see Arenas gone, though.  That was a monumental fuck-up.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 09, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
Eh, Bass wasn't that great.  He had a tendency to eat the ball on possessions and never pass.  Davis is a bit better defender, IMHO, and is much better at passing -- or at least attempting to.  I see this as a lateral, and apparently Davis was a guy that Howard wanted for some reason.

I'm glad to see Arenas gone, though.  That was a monumental fuck-up.

Good assessment. Also, it was a sign-and trade on Big Baby. 4 years, 26 million. Apparently Big Baby and Howard are friends, maybe a last ditch effort on keeping Howard happy in Orlando.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pork Soda on December 09, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
Good assessment. Also, it was a sign-and trade on Big Baby. 4 years, 26 million. Apparently Big Baby and Howard are friends, maybe a last ditch effort on keeping Howard happy in Orlando.

I also read some rumors that Otis is pushing hard to work a deal to get Andre Iguodala from Philly.  If they manage that and keep Dwight in pinstripes, this season might be interesting for me again.  Ugh.  Stupid fucking NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 09, 2011, 02:36:14 PM
Mother fucker.  I hope they have a backup plan because they just lost their defensive backbone. Caron Butler is also out having signed with the Clippers on Thursday.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/7335637/center-tyson-chandler-agrees-terms-new-york-knicks


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 09, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/915689/CP-got-Stern_d_medium.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 09, 2011, 04:09:26 PM
The New Orleans Hornets, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers have resumed negotiations in an attempt to find a way to complete a blockbuster trade that would send Chris Paul to L.A., league sources told Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aly.RtI_yJu1v4jrgzB1zz68vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_trade_hornets_lakers_nba_120911)

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/Popcorn-01-Michael-Jackson.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on December 09, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
What the hell is this article?  'David Stern kills Paul deal to Lakers'  Hell, since the NBA owns the Hornets, Stern is the man who thought up this deal and he only killed it when some owners threatened remove him as the Commissioner.
Stern is even on record as saying he would love to see the Lakers in the Finals every year.

This deal was more of a travesty than the Lakers getting Pau Gasol for basically nothing a few years ago and changing them from a .500 team to NBA champions.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 09, 2011, 10:55:27 PM
There’s a new addition to the sign-and-trade between the Orlando Magic and Boston Celtics. Not only will the Magic swap Brandon Bass for Glen Davis, they’ll also receive Von Wafer in the deal. Wafer was an unrestricted free agent, but Orlando had him added to the deal in exchange for their a traded- player exception. Wafer will sign a three-year deal with the Magic. Last year, the 26-year-old played 58 games with the Celtics. He received interest from a number of other teams before landing with Orlando. HoopsWorld


Also, Orlando has given Howard permission to speak with 3 teams...New Jersey is one. Howard's agent has denied a meeting took place with the Nets.


@Daldridgetnt reports, David West close w/ Celtics. Y! Sources say sides working on a sign-and-trade for a 3-year, $27-29M deal.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Aporkalypse_Now on December 11, 2011, 10:04:59 AM
The New Orleans Hornets, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers have resumed negotiations in an attempt to find a way to complete a blockbuster trade that would send Chris Paul to L.A., league sources told Yahoo! Sports. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aly.RtI_yJu1v4jrgzB1zz68vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_trade_hornets_lakers_nba_120911)

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/Popcorn-01-Michael-Jackson.gif)

It's dead.

Lamar Odom to Mavs, Lakers going hard after Howard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 11, 2011, 01:59:50 PM
Doesn't look like the Celtics will be getting David West.

Adrian Wojnarowski
David West has agreed to a 2 year, $20 million deal with Pacers, league source tells Y.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Denny Crane on December 11, 2011, 02:07:25 PM
It's dead.

Lamar Odom to Mavs, Lakers going hard after Howard.

Big pickup for the Mavs, that will really help them. Odom was always underrated in LA, his versatility can hide a lot of flaws in a team.

I wonder what they will bring in to offset losing Chandler? Haywood is good, but surely they won't just ride him?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on December 12, 2011, 11:36:06 AM
OJ Mayo to the Pacers for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on December 12, 2011, 11:39:39 AM
OJ Mayo to the Pacers for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.

Excuse me while I go puke. As Calkins said, the Grizz basically traded Kevin Love for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 12, 2011, 11:48:36 AM
Excuse me while I go puke. As Calkins said, the Grizz basically traded Kevin Love for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.

Damn. That shit won't buff.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 12, 2011, 01:32:04 PM
Stern has killed a CP3 deal to the Clippers. How much longer does this jackwagon get to be commissioner?

CP3 + Blake Griffin = awesome
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on December 12, 2011, 02:42:37 PM
Big pickup for the Mavs, that will really help them. Odom was always underrated in LA, his versatility can hide a lot of flaws in a team.

I wonder what they will bring in to offset losing Chandler? Haywood is good, but surely they won't just ride him?

You don't really need a true center in today's NBA.  It's not like the 90s when you had all of those great C's.  Haywood is a very good defensive center, then they have Mahimi and the kid they just got - Williams or whatever.  I'm thinking Odom will play 15 minutes a game at "center" with Dirk guarding the non-Dwight Howard's of the world. 

Kidd/Beubois
Vince Carter/Jason Terry
Marion/Odom
Dirk/Odom
Haywood/Odom

It's a pretty versatile team from a matchup perspective.  I love the additions of Carter and Odom from a ball movement perspective.  Carter and Odom both see the floor fairly well, especially odom. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shortstop6 on December 12, 2011, 03:24:39 PM
Carter and Odom both see the floor fairly well, especially odom.

The problem w Odom coming to town is that heifer of a wife of his will be douche'ing up my city.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on December 12, 2011, 06:05:06 PM
OJ Mayo to the Pacers for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.

Is this the same exact trade they submitted after the trade deadline last year?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: crote on December 12, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
Stern has killed a CP3 deal to the Clippers. How much longer does this jackwagon get to be commissioner?

CP3 + Blake Griffin = awesome

My understanding is that the Clips killed the deal, not New Orleans/Stern.  Hornets wanted both a first round pick and Eric Gordon to be part of the trade, Clips said you can have one or the other but not both.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Denny Crane on December 12, 2011, 06:15:40 PM
You don't really need a true center in today's NBA.  It's not like the 90s when you had all of those great C's.  Haywood is a very good defensive center, then they have Mahimi and the kid they just got - Williams or whatever.  I'm thinking Odom will play 15 minutes a game at "center" with Dirk guarding the non-Dwight Howard's of the world. 

Kidd/Beubois
Vince Carter/Jason Terry
Marion/Odom
Dirk/Odom
Haywood/Odom

It's a pretty versatile team from a matchup perspective.  I love the additions of Carter and Odom from a ball movement perspective.  Carter and Odom both see the floor fairly well, especially odom.

Tend to agree, but Odom and Haywood will get eaten alive by Howard. If he goes to the Lakers, they won't be able to beat them.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 12, 2011, 06:21:19 PM
My understanding is that the Clips killed the deal, not New Orleans/Stern.  Hornets wanted both a first round pick and Eric Gordon to be part of the trade, Clips said you can have one or the other but not both.
Eric Gordon and Minnesota's unprotected 2012 first-round draft choice in addition to former All-Star center Chris Kaman and prospects Al-Farouq Aminu and Eric Bledsoe is what the NBA wanted for CP3
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on December 12, 2011, 09:10:59 PM
Excuse me while I go puke. As Calkins said, the Grizz basically traded Kevin Love for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/dec/12/grizzlies-owner-michael-heisley-no-active-effort-t/
update

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 12, 2011, 11:40:23 PM
Grizz reach agreement with the best Gasol. 4 years, $58 million.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on December 13, 2011, 07:33:03 AM
Tend to agree, but Odom and Haywood will get eaten alive by Howard. If he goes to the Lakers, they won't be able to beat them.

Odom will never guard Howard.  Haywood and Mahimi would.  Neither are as good as Chandler, of course.  But they're good defensive centers (especially Haywood).  And I don't think the mavs are done just yet.  I think they'll add another big. 

Assuming the Mavs did let Odom take a run at Howard, that would mean Howard would have to guard Dirk, Odom, or Marion.  So it goes both ways. 

The lakers are done.  Kobe and Howard SOUNDS awesome because of Kobe's reputation.  But he's not what he used to be.  I think OKC is going to be the team to beat from the West this year.  Dallas isn't going anywhere because of Dirk.  I wouldn't pick the Lakers over the Mavs or the Thunder even if they got Howard (said not knowing what other pieces they may be able to pull together). 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Denny Crane on December 13, 2011, 07:53:26 AM
Odom will never guard Howard.  Haywood and Mahimi would.  Neither are as good as Chandler, of course.  But they're good defensive centers (especially Haywood).  And I don't think the mavs are done just yet.  I think they'll add another big. 

Assuming the Mavs did let Odom take a run at Howard, that would mean Howard would have to guard Dirk, Odom, or Marion.  So it goes both ways. 

The lakers are done.  Kobe and Howard SOUNDS awesome because of Kobe's reputation.  But he's not what he used to be.  I think OKC is going to be the team to beat from the West this year.  Dallas isn't going anywhere because of Dirk.  I wouldn't pick the Lakers over the Mavs or the Thunder even if they got Howard (said not knowing what other pieces they may be able to pull together).

I know Odom wouldn't guard Howard...which means he couldn't play the 5 at all when they play whatever team he ends up on. Which leaves you very thin. You also run into similar problems with the Lakers and their size, assuming Bynum stays healthy. Even if he doesn't Gasol will be salivating.

And I disagree on the Lakers. Kobe's numbers are where they've always been and he's had all summer to go to Germany and get those crazy knee treatments. He's got a couple years left and if they get Howard, I don't see anyone in the West beating them.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 13, 2011, 07:57:42 AM
I tend to think that the shorter reg season will help the older teams i.e. LA and Boston. Back to back nights may not be good in the regular season but less games may come in handy by the time the playoffs roll around.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on December 13, 2011, 08:48:36 AM
I know Odom wouldn't guard Howard...which means he couldn't play the 5 at all when they play whatever team he ends up on. Which leaves you very thin. You also run into similar problems with the Lakers and their size, assuming Bynum stays healthy. Even if he doesn't Gasol will be salivating.

And I disagree on the Lakers. Kobe's numbers are where they've always been and he's had all summer to go to Germany and get those crazy knee treatments. He's got a couple years left and if they get Howard, I don't see anyone in the West beating them.

Is there a scenario where the Lakers would get to keep Bynum and Gasol AND add Howard? I thought they were going to have to ship off 1 or both of those guys. 

I can see Odom playing the 5 against a lot of teams these days.  Just 'cause Dirk will always be the "4."  Just put Dirk, Marion, and Odom in the front court.  That's a great rebounding group, but they're short on shot blocking.  Doesn't mean you can't get away with it for 4 minutes at a time, though.  I would expect Haywood/Mahimi/random big guy to guard the Howard's of the world.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 13, 2011, 01:03:33 PM
Excuse me while I go puke. As Calkins said, the Grizz basically traded Kevin Love for Josh McRoberts and Brandon Rush.

easing your worries:

ChrisVernonShow Chris Vernon
OJ Mayo - "I'm home, baby. Mr. Heisley told me this morning I wasn't getting traded. last 48 hrs a mental roller coaster."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on December 13, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
easing your worries:

ChrisVernonShow Chris Vernon
OJ Mayo - "I'm home, baby. Mr. Heisley told me this morning I wasn't getting traded. last 48 hrs a mental roller coaster."


 :thumbup:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on December 14, 2011, 07:01:02 PM
Paul to the Clippers:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AktcGq2WbdOZ1HFjgBW4YT68vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_clippers_121411

The NBA has reached an agreement to trade New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Hornets will receive guard Eric Gordon, center Chris Kaman, forward Al-Farouq Aminu and the Minnesota Timberwolves’ unprotected first-round pick.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 16, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
Fantasy NBA. Clark and I are down. Others?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on December 16, 2011, 02:17:39 PM
I am also down  :shocker:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 16, 2011, 02:50:13 PM
Down as well.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 16, 2011, 04:10:28 PM
Down
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 16, 2011, 06:21:12 PM
Sweet. I will set up a league. I figure we should do an auto pick draft. Just pre rank players and let it roll.

Any problems with this?



http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/104049


Setting    Value
League ID#:    104049
League Name:    Woopig
Password:    wearacup
Draft Type:    Autopick Draft
Max Teams:    12
Scoring Type:    Head-to-Head
Max Moves:    No maximum
Max Trades:    No maximum
Trade Reject Time:    2
Trade End Date:    March 8, 2012
Allow Draft Pick Trades:    No
Waiver Time:    2 days
Waiver Type:    Continual rolling list
Can't Cut List Provider:    Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review:    League Votes
Post Draft Players:    Follow Waiver Rules
Max Acquisitions per Week:    4
Weekly Deadline:    Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on:    Week 8
Playoffs:    Week 21, 22 and 23 (6 teams) Note: Week 23 runs 7 days from Apr 9 to Apr 15
Playoff Reseeding:    No
Lock Eliminated Teams:    No
Divisions:    No
Make League Publicly Viewable:    No
Roster Positions:    PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN
Players Stat Categories:    Field Goal Percentage (FG%), Free Throw Percentage (FT%), 3-point Shots Made (3PTM), Points Scored (PTS), Total Rebounds (REB), Assists (AST), Steals (ST), Blocked Shots (BLK), Turnovers (TO)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: sofaking on December 16, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
I'm in too.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 16, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
I figure we should do an auto pick draft. Just pre rank players and let it roll.

I'm in. Auto pick is cool, I just have to remember to put Brandon Roy near the top.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on December 16, 2011, 09:39:29 PM
How many teams do you need?

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 16, 2011, 09:42:47 PM
How many teams do you need?

As of now only 3 of 12 registered.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on December 17, 2011, 12:33:08 AM
As of now only 3 of 12 registered.

Make it like the real NBA.  Let the 3 teams you already have be the only ones with a chance to win anything and just get 9 more that exist solely for the purpose of trading their good players to those 3 teams.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on December 17, 2011, 12:42:01 AM
Make it like the real NBA.  Let the 3 teams you already have be the only ones with a chance to win anything and just get 9 more that exist solely for the purpose of trading their good players to those 3 teams.

You guys didn't say anything about hookers and blow.

I'm in.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: KSHogg on December 17, 2011, 08:06:45 AM
Make it like the real NBA.  Let the 3 teams you already have be the only ones with a chance to win anything and just get 9 more that exist solely for the purpose of trading their good players to those 3 teams.

And you get extra points if one or more of your players show proof of doing the tonsil tickle with the mama queen Kardashian! (bonus points if Bruce watches)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 17, 2011, 07:08:26 PM
We only got 3 signed up. Need 5 more at least. C'mon meow.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 17, 2011, 07:17:23 PM
when is the draft? 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on December 17, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
I'm out. I don't like autodrafts.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 17, 2011, 07:44:25 PM
Im down too
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 17, 2011, 08:28:36 PM
Figure we can auto pick festivus eve (22nd) leaving time to adjust rosters by Christmas day games
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 17, 2011, 10:40:32 PM
If we are present can we draft our won instead of auto?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 19, 2011, 11:44:00 AM
5 teams signed up. This thing is on life support.  *:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on December 19, 2011, 12:08:13 PM
In
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hognarok on December 19, 2011, 12:38:15 PM
I'm in as well although I would definitely prefer live draft.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on December 19, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
I can do either...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 19, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
We got 7. Need one more. I can set up a live draft and if you show up, you show up. If you don't, you don't. It'll pick for you. If we only have 8 then a live draft will go quick.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 19, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
We got 7. Need one more. I can set up a live draft and if you show up, you show up. If you don't, you don't. It'll pick for you. If we only have 8 then a live draft will go quick.

I could live with a autopick, but prefer live draft.

Doesn't matter what time really, I can use my Helio Ocean.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 19, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M35SPhRD0Iw


Lets get 1 or 3 more and plan for live draft Wednesday night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on December 19, 2011, 08:36:15 PM
i can't join. is it filled up already
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on December 19, 2011, 08:42:07 PM
nevermind... Im in  :suicide:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 19, 2011, 08:42:36 PM
There are only 7 teams signed up right now...should work.

Make sure that when you're entering the league and the password that you use the league I.D. number (104049) instead of the league name (woopig). I fricked that part up, but finally figured it out.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 19, 2011, 08:45:15 PM
Great. Ok we will draft 8 eastern/ 7 central Wednesday.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 19, 2011, 11:00:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0ORJrT4iFs&
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on December 20, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0ORJrT4iFs&

You can tell that the Clippers were extremely eager to bitch-slap the Lakers last night.

What I saw of the game, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

--

Antonio McDyess retires after 17 seasons. One of the few remaining guys from the mid-to-late 90s Golden Age of the NBA (for me anyways).
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 20, 2011, 11:04:16 AM
He lasted longer than I expected him to
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on December 20, 2011, 11:32:50 AM
Losing Arthur sucks for the Grizz, bad.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: sofaking on December 20, 2011, 10:01:30 PM
I got an email saying it was for 11 PM EST, is this right?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 20, 2011, 10:04:21 PM
I got an email saying it was for 11 PM EST, is this right?
Dammit. I set it for 8 PST. Now 5 PST, 8 eastern, 7 central.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 21, 2011, 02:15:47 PM
Reminder: Live draft tonight at 7 central. 30 minutes prior to the draft the internets will randomly pick our order.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 21, 2011, 06:34:28 PM
Hogfan4life gets the first pick. Cock Asian with the last pick.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 22, 2011, 10:23:01 AM
How the fuck is Elton Brand on the Can Not Cut List?

Who wants to trade?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 22, 2011, 01:15:35 PM
How the fuck is Elton Brand on the Can Not Cut List?

Who wants to trade?
Me. Me. Me.

I'm the proud owner of Lebron james and can't stand him. Let's deal.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 22, 2011, 02:53:31 PM
Aight.  Ill look when I get home
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on December 23, 2011, 09:01:30 PM
WTF is up with the drop/adds not going through? How long does that shit take to process?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 23, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
WTF is up with the drop/adds not going through? How long does that shit take to process?
guys are prob on waiver until tmrw


edt: yes that is the case. They will be free agents beginning tomorrow.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 24, 2011, 10:52:16 AM
it says I added Emeka Okafor but he is no where on my team.  Anyone else having any problems with their pickups?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: McCarroll21 on December 24, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
it says I added Emeka Okafor but he is no where on my team.  Anyone else having any problems with their pickups?
Check your roster for tomorrow. Yahoo! likes to screw around with things. It'll process it but the guy isn't eligible to play for you until the next day.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on December 25, 2011, 12:50:31 PM
I actually love shortened NBA seasons. Makes it a sprint and a lot more fun to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5DnCzzKCzg

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 25, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I actually love shortened NBA seasons. Makes it a sprint and a lot more fun to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5DnCzzKCzg
This video was awesome. Glad you posted it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on December 26, 2011, 10:44:39 AM
I actually love shortened NBA seasons. Makes it a sprint and a lot more fun to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5DnCzzKCzg

So nice.  Gracias.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 26, 2011, 01:11:04 PM
Ok. Since I couldnt catch anyone while they were drunk with trades ( :2bird: ), lets wheel and deal. 

Terry, Kidd, Garnett and Brand are on the block. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 26, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Appears that the Mavs are still celebrating that championship. Down 27 to the Nuggets at the half a day after getting embarrassed by the Heat
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: snoots on December 26, 2011, 09:34:57 PM
Appears that the Mavs are still celebrating that championship. Down 27 to the Nuggets at the half a day after getting embarrassed by the Heat

That Mavs team is no more.  I think Cuban is clearing cap room for the D Howard sweepstakes.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 26, 2011, 09:52:58 PM
By acquiring Odom?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: snoots on December 26, 2011, 10:14:19 PM
By acquiring Odom?

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4681705/in-a-strange-twist-hello-lamar-odom

'Odom's contract also meshes perfectly with Cuban's plan to get under the salary cap next summer. Odom is due $8.9 million this season and next season is a team option at $8.2 million, giving the Mavs desired flexibility with the 12-year veteran as either an expiring contract trade chip at the deadline, a sign-and-trade next summer or they can always keep him on board.'
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on December 26, 2011, 10:36:52 PM
I didn't know the 8.2 was an option
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on December 26, 2011, 10:40:57 PM
I actually love shortened NBA seasons. Makes it a sprint and a lot more fun to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5DnCzzKCzg

This video makes you remember that when the NBA is good, it can't be beat, but when it sucks balls, it's not worth crap.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on December 30, 2011, 09:57:39 AM
May need to rename this thread the Kevin Durant is the Best Player in the World thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Jf1jIhNLI&
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on December 30, 2011, 12:47:31 PM
I went to the Grizzlies/Thunder game the other night and Durant got 32. He hit a fadeaway in the closing minutes with Rudy Gay all over him. The guy is the best player in the NBA right now. Last week I would have said LeBron, but Durant finishes games that LeBron struggles with.

I'm not sold on Westbrook as a PG along side Durant. He is going to continue to take shots away from Durant and that isn't a good thing. As for the rest of the Thunder, James Harden is solid and Ibaka is much improved.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 09, 2012, 11:14:38 AM
2 weeks into The Greatest Fantasy Basketball League of All Time

1.      Tickle the Twine    14-4-0    .778
2.      Death By Sooiecide    13-5-0    .722    1
3.      Cock Asian            13-5-0    .722    1       
4.      Tusk til Dawn            8-10-0    .444    6       
5.      TheBartonFinks     7-11-0    .389    7       
6.      As the World Sterns    7-11-0    .389
7.      Hogsfan4life         5-13-0    .278    9    
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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on January 09, 2012, 12:38:40 PM
I somehow went 5-4 last week despite getting hammered with injuries (D Williams, Nene and Z Bo). Ryan Anderson, Spencer Hawes and Jose Calderon have been solid pickups so far.

I get my shot at Tickle the Twine this week and he is loaded.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 15, 2012, 10:52:12 PM
Chris Paul has strained his hamstring, possibly opening up a roster spot on the Clippers.

Marc Stein of ESPN thinks our very own Courtney Fortson getting called up from the NBDL

(http://clippers.topbuzz.com/albums/chris-paul/Chris_Paul_tries_to_stay_in_front_of_Courtney_Fortson.jpg)

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 16, 2012, 10:47:19 AM
Full slate of day NBA games for the MLK holiday. Happly MLK Day woopiggas

And the rumors of Fortson to the Clips were true. Would love to have seen if Courtney could've survived a season with Mike

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/15/chris-paul-injury-forces-clippers-to-call-up-courtney-fortson-from-nba-development-league/

Chris Paul suffered a strained hamstring in the Los Angeles Clippers’ 102-94 victory on Saturday night and, while the injury isn’t expected to keep him out for long, the team has a plan in place until their All-Star point guard returns to full strength. That contingency plan comes with the name Courtney Fortson, a waterbug-type guard with two years of D-League experience.

Fortson, a 5-foot-11 guard who was playing for the NBA Development League’s Los Angeles D-Fenders, has averaged 15.9 points and 5.2 assists in 17 games for the Lakers’ D-League affiliate thus far this season. It’s likely his familiarity with the Clippers system — not his averages in the Development League — was the key to his call-up, however, as the former Arkansas Razorbacks guard spent time in training camp with the Clippers in between D-League stints this season.

The 23-year-old diminutive guard certainly has opened eyes this season as I’m personally aware of a few NBA teams that had him atop their call-up list if a move for a point guard was necessary, but the quick guard has a few glaring flaws that coincide with his small stature. Fortson should be able to stay in front of anybody he’s put in front of in the NBA — and will likely be able to get by most of his defenders as well considering his speed with the ball. His size will likely deter him from ever being a full-time NBA player, however, as it takes a bit too long for him to get off his jumpshot which will likely cause him to be a non-factor on the offensive end of the ball when the help defense rolls around.

The NBA D-League is all about opportunity, however, and Fortson has a solid one thanks to his current circumstances … even if he wasn’t the most-talented option available. Fortson was already in Los Angeles and therefore will be ready for action, if called upon, when the Clippers host the New Jersey Nets at 3:30 p.m. on Monday afternoon. It certainly doesn’t hurt that he’s familiar with the team already after having spent a few weeks with them last month.

Fortson is the third call-up in the past week from the D-League as the Spurs called up teammate Malcolm Thomas last week before Mike James was given another shot at the NBA following a standout game at Reno’s D-League Showcase.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on January 19, 2012, 12:53:25 PM
Westbrook just inked a 5 year deal. Not really a big fan of it. Hopefully they have enough money to sign Harden and I'm guessing Serge Ibaka will now be signing with someone else when that time comes.

I mainly don't like the deal because I can't think of the last time a team with a scoring point guard won an NBA title. At the beginning of the year I was hoping they'd trade him and put Eric Maynor in the starting lineup. Maynor tearing is ACL a week ago and out for the year didn't help...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on January 22, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
Mo Williams has exploded since Chris Paul got hurt.  I can't believe they were playing Chauncey Billups in front of him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on January 23, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
Marc Gasol has been named Western Conference player of the week.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on January 23, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
Westbrook just inked a 5 year deal. Not really a big fan of it. Hopefully they have enough money to sign Harden and I'm guessing Serge Ibaka will now be signing with someone else when that time comes.

I mainly don't like the deal because I can't think of the last time a team with a scoring point guard won an NBA title. At the beginning of the year I was hoping they'd trade him and put Eric Maynor in the starting lineup. Maynor tearing is ACL a week ago and out for the year didn't help...
Isiah and the Bad Boys?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on January 23, 2012, 07:38:31 PM
Marc Gasol has been named Western Conference player of the week.

good thing he's on my fantasy team  O0
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on January 23, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
Isiah and the Bad Boys?
spurs and Tony Parker
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on January 31, 2012, 10:16:12 AM
Good Grief:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6FRWBPu4c&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 10:33:31 AM
Good Grief:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6FRWBPu4c&feature=player_embedded

He hovered.  For .05 seconds, he was suspended in midair.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: clintcommander on January 31, 2012, 11:30:14 AM
Every time I see a video of him going poster on someone, I chuckle inside thinking of how he got shut down in Bud Walton.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 31, 2012, 11:40:08 AM
Every time I see a video of him going poster on someone, I chuckle inside thinking of how he got shut down in Bud Walton.
21 points, 13 rebounds

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=283650008
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 01:28:56 PM
21 points, 13 rebounds

http://espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=283650008

Still, that had to be the best win of the Pelphrey era, no?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on January 31, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Still, that had to be the best win of the Pelphrey era, no?

That and the Texas win combined to set up one big kick in the balls for Arkansas fans.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: big_pig on January 31, 2012, 01:43:02 PM
That and the Texas win combined to set up one big kick in the balls for Arkansas fans.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the nonstop references by Jimmy Dykes about Texas being a final four team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on January 31, 2012, 01:51:00 PM
Still, that had to be the best win of the Pelphrey era, no?
No doubt
Oh yeah, I forgot about the nonstop references by Jimmy Dykes about Texas being a final four team.
Remember that game because that is when he made the banjo reference.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on January 31, 2012, 03:58:03 PM
Good Grief:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD6FRWBPu4c&feature=player_embedded

Not as cool as a highlight, but as a Thunder fan this sucked even more. Nothing like cutting a lead from 18 to 6, to then immediately give up 4 threes in about a minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGdPlmARbok (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGdPlmARbok)
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on January 31, 2012, 05:29:03 PM
That was crazy last night
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on February 09, 2012, 05:41:10 PM
Marc Gasol has been named an All-Star.  :thumbup:

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Marc Gasol has been selected to the Western Conference All-Star reserves, but Pau Gasol has been left off team, league sources tell Y!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 09, 2012, 07:23:59 PM
Lakers v Celtics tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on February 09, 2012, 09:49:46 PM
Marc Gasol has been named an All-Star.  :thumbup:

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Marc Gasol has been selected to the Western Conference All-Star reserves, but Pau Gasol has been left off team, league sources tell Y!

"The Best Gasol"

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/marc-gasol.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on February 10, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
"The Best Gasol"

(http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/marc-gasol.jpg)

He's come a long way.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 10, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
Jeremy Lin is sneaky good. Running Jap plays out there.

--- Parcells
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 10, 2012, 09:46:07 PM
The Asian Tim Tebow just dropped 38 in a win over LA. Linsanity continues. He still sleeps on his brother's couch. Wow.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 10, 2012, 10:50:29 PM
The Asian Tim Tebow just dropped 38 in a win over LA. Linsanity continues. He still sleeps on his brother's couch. Wow.

(http://www.egotripland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jeremy-Lin-All-I-Do.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 11, 2012, 06:31:09 AM
.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 11, 2012, 08:02:34 AM
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-articles/february/real-tweets-from-real-people-jason-whitlocks-racist-jeremy-lin-tweet-edition.html

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on February 11, 2012, 08:24:44 AM
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-articles/february/real-tweets-from-real-people-jason-whitlocks-racist-jeremy-lin-tweet-edition.html



That's funny, but it will be interesting to see if the national media makes a circus out of this as they would comments from a white figure.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Piggin Out on February 11, 2012, 09:28:27 AM
Sign in the crowd called Lin the "Yellow Mamba".
He's fun to watch play.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: SunshineSweaterman on February 11, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Yellow-mamba.jpg)

(http://jerseychaser.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jeremy-Lin-Crossover-Dunk.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on February 11, 2012, 07:19:44 PM
I seriously think I could score 20 points in an NBA game if Derek Fisher were guarding me.

I mean seriously how does Fish make a spot on an NBA roster much less start for the LA Lakers?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 11, 2012, 08:56:20 PM
I seriously think I could score 20 points in an NBA game if Derek Fisher were guarding me.

I mean seriously how does Fish make a spot on an NBA roster much less start for the LA Lakers?
Kobe likes him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on February 12, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
Sign in the crowd called Lin the "Yellow Mamba".
He's fun to watch play.

His sister Amber uset to be as well...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on February 13, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
That's funny, but it will be interesting to see if the national media makes a circus out of this as they would comments from a white figure.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jason-whitlock-apologizes-unfunny-jeremy-lin-twitter-145934497.html

On Sunday, after much criticism and derision, Whitlock came through with an apology of sorts:

I then gave in to another part of my personality - my immature, sophomoric, comedic nature. It's been with me since birth, a gift from my mother and honed as a child listening to my godmother's Richard Pryor albums. I still want to be a standup comedian.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on February 13, 2012, 11:26:10 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jason-whitlock-apologizes-unfunny-jeremy-lin-twitter-145934497.html

On Sunday, after much criticism and derision, Whitlock came through with an apology of sorts:

I then gave in to another part of my personality - my immature, sophomoric, comedic nature. It's been with me since birth, a gift from my mother and honed as a child listening to my godmother's Richard Pryor albums. I still want to be a standup comedian.


Jason Whitlock should be the last guy to make dick jokes since he hasn't seen his own in a few decades.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 13, 2012, 04:00:32 PM
@FloydMayweather: Lin's a good player but the hype is b/c he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night, dont get same praise
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogofWar on February 13, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
@FloydMayweather: Lin's a good player but the hype is b/c he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night, dont get same praise

Back in the day a LA Laker said the same thing about Larry Bird. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on February 13, 2012, 04:29:10 PM
@FloydMayweather: Lin's a good player but the hype is b/c he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night, dont get same praise

Thurgood Marshall was a good justice, but the hype was because he was black.  White justices did what he did every day, didn't get the same praise.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: PigHair on February 13, 2012, 08:44:43 PM
Back in the day a LA Laker said the same thing about Larry Bird. :thumbdown:

I thought it was a Detroit Piston that said that?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HipHog on February 13, 2012, 08:53:18 PM
Thurgood Marshall was a good justice, but the hype was because he was black.  White justices did what he did every day, didn't get the same praise.
thurgood was black?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Zoso on February 13, 2012, 09:22:48 PM
I just wanted to take this opportunity to say....

FUCK THE NBA!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on February 13, 2012, 09:45:45 PM
I thought it was a Detroit Piston that said that?
I think it was Isiah Thomas.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on February 13, 2012, 09:59:45 PM
Thurgood Marshall was a good justice, but the hype was because he was black.  White justices did what he did every day, didn't get the same praise.

43 Presidents before...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on February 14, 2012, 12:42:48 AM
43 Presidents before...

26.  'Cause can we really count the first 17?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on February 14, 2012, 12:55:16 AM
@FloydMayweather: Lin's a good player but the hype is b/c he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night, dont get same praise

Or it could be that in the first 6 games he has started in, he has scored 115 points total. Go get your face beat in mayweather.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 14, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
Time to rename this the Jeremy Lin thread. He did it again. Game winner
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: VegasHog on February 14, 2012, 08:44:59 PM
Time to rename this the Jeremy Lin thread. He did it again. Game winner

27 points / 11 assists to lead the team. Unbelievable.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 14, 2012, 08:46:32 PM
They were down 11 at one point
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: PorkRyan on February 14, 2012, 08:56:55 PM
Lincredible
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 14, 2012, 09:00:42 PM
How can you start anyone over him after this?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 15, 2012, 07:47:36 AM
Or it could be that in the first 6 games he has started in, he has scored 115 points total. Go get your face beat in mayweather.

It's not even that, to me.  It's that he's come out of NOWHERE and he's playing like an all-nba guy. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 15, 2012, 08:07:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR3NhE8fBs8&
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 15, 2012, 08:34:18 AM
The real crazy part is that the Knicks keep winning.

I'm already looking forward to the chapter in this story where Carmelo comes back, ruins team chemistry, Knicks start losing, Melo get booed, ....
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 15, 2012, 08:48:15 AM
The real crazy part is that the Knicks keep winning.

I'm already looking forward to the chapter in this story where Carmelo comes back, ruins team chemistry, Knicks start losing, Melo get booed, ....

Not that the Knicks are a great team, but their competition during this stretch hasn't been very good at all:
Nets: 8-21
Jazz: 14-14
Wizards: 5-20
Lakers: 17-12
Wolves: 13-16
Raptors: 9-21

Combined record of: 66-104

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pork Soda on February 15, 2012, 09:09:07 AM
The real crazy part is that the Knicks keep winning.

I'm already looking forward to the chapter in this story where Carmelo comes back, ruins team chemistry, Knicks start losing, Melo get booed, ....

It's not like this isn't in the realm of possibilities.  He's one of those guys who has to take a huge volume of shots to be effective, and that has a tendency to really drag a team down.  This is a great story, though.  Hope the kid can keep producing like this and make some all-star games and whatnot.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 15, 2012, 09:14:51 AM
Not that the Knicks are a great team, but their competition during this stretch hasn't been very good at all:
Nets: 8-21
Jazz: 14-14
Wizards: 5-20
Lakers: 17-12
Wolves: 13-16
Raptors: 9-21

Combined record of: 66-104

Very Tebow-esque
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on February 15, 2012, 09:17:47 AM
Not that the Knicks are a great team, but their competition during this stretch hasn't been very good at all:
Nets: 8-21
Jazz: 14-14
Wizards: 5-20
Lakers: 17-12
Wolves: 13-16
Raptors: 9-21

Combined record of: 66-104
Haters gonna hate.

LinBA
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 15, 2012, 09:48:13 AM
Very Tebow-esque

Except that he wasn't great in college, famous because of what he did in college, a first round pick, had the majority of a fan base wanting him to play, and that he actually puts up impressive numbers while winning.

The media hype and beating a star in his sport who's had rape charges in the past are tebow-esque
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on February 15, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
Very Tebow-esque
Not really. The Broncos were winning in spite of Tebow. The Knicks are winning because of Lin. Tebow still has to prove he can be an effective QB in the NFL. Lin is showing he's an effective NBA point guard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 15, 2012, 10:05:55 AM
Not really. The Broncos were winning in spite of Tebow. The Knicks are winning because of Lin. Tebow still has to prove he can be an effective QB in the NFL. Lin is showing he's an effective NBA point guard.

I was just saying that Tebow did most of his winning against bad teams, a la Jeremy Lin and the Knicks.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 15, 2012, 11:55:44 AM
Still want to see Lin play some better teams.
Definitely want to see him play some better teams multiple times.

He's good. This run has been impressive. Just not sure he's THAT good.
He's only come out of nowhere for people that either only watched NBA for years, or never paid attention. This kid was good at Harvard and ran Ammaker's offense superbly. It's surprising to see this, but not shocking.

Now if he countinues...  and wins games like that against GOOD teams... then Awesome.

Jeremy Lin is exactly what the NBA needs right now. Underdog story. Easy to root for.
And he's shown up at the EXACT right time, in this dead period between football and baseball where the NBA has traditionally struggled to take hold.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 15, 2012, 12:11:07 PM

He's only come out of nowhere for people that either only watched NBA for years, or never paid attention. This kid was good at Harvard and ran Ammaker's offense superbly. It's surprising to see this, but not shocking.


What does Harvard have to do with the NBA?  I follow the NBA pretty damn close.  Lin came out of nowhere.  I'd say that about ANY player that hadn't been able to hold down a roster spot since college, had been cut by multiple teams, then instantly became a star. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on February 15, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
Watching that shot at the end of the Raptors game, the kid sure doesn't lack for confidence.  He knew he was going to take that shot. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 16, 2012, 07:46:27 PM
This shit had me in stitches

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7579097/linsanity-bag



#spoiler
insert Lin for Win
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30sYk9B4OqU

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on February 16, 2012, 07:49:24 PM
Thurgood Marshall was a good justice, but the hype was because he was black.  White justices did what he did every day, didn't get the same praise.
By the way, I've meant to compliment you for days for this kind of hustle. 

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 17, 2012, 09:19:18 AM
The "Linsanity" is getting a bit ridiculous, though.

It's been a great story and he's delivered fantastic performances in this stretch.

Fact is, he has still not accomplished dick yet.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Loma on February 17, 2012, 10:53:24 PM
I can not stop listening to this over and over.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJj1zBegXzM&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on February 18, 2012, 04:25:30 AM
The "Linsanity" is getting a bit ridiculous, though.

It's been a great story and he's delivered fantastic performances in this stretch.

Fact is, he has still not accomplished dick yet.

Well, he has provided something to talk about in the 3 week dead period between the Super Bowl and the start of Spring Training so there's that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 19, 2012, 04:26:42 PM
As a 29 year old guy who grew up without cable, I watched Karate Kid and Teen Wolf taped off tv over and over every summer.

Mark Safan recorded this, this past weekend.

The Internet at its finest:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdrceH0VfEM
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on February 19, 2012, 06:04:24 PM
Excuse me for Linterruping Linsanity, but I just read that Greg Oden still isn't even well enough for them to continue operations on his knees.

I know people keep throwing Sam Bowie's name around, but he played in the NBA for 10 years according to Wikipedia - his sin was simply being drafted before Jordan.

I cannot even begin to think of a bigger bust, maybe in all sports, than Greg Oden.  I think he's well past Kwame Brown and maybe only can be matched by Len Bias, who died, as the biggest bust in NBA history.

People talk about Marinovich, Jamarcus and Mandarich in football, but it seems to me all three played more then Oden. 

I think he's the all-timer. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 19, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Excuse me for Linterruping Linsanity, but I just read that Greg Oden still isn't even well enough for them to continue operations on his knees.

I know people keep throwing Sam Bowie's name around, but he played in the NBA for 10 years according to Wikipedia - his sin was simply being drafted before Jordan.

I cannot even begin to think of a bigger bust, maybe in all sports, than Greg Oden.  I think he's well past Kwame Brown and maybe only can be matched by Len Bias, who died, as the biggest bust in NBA history.

People talk about Marinovich, Jamarcus and Mandarich in football, but it seems to me all three played more then Oden. 

I think he's the all-timer.
You could be right. Throw in the fact that the Blazers could have taken Kevin Durant and the Oden pick is glaring.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 19, 2012, 06:24:35 PM
Jay Williams, Adam Morrison, Chris Washburn?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 19, 2012, 06:33:35 PM
Jay Williams, Adam Morrison, Chris Washburn?
Morrison has a ring with the Lakers I believe.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 19, 2012, 06:35:29 PM
So does the ball boy
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on February 20, 2012, 08:00:46 AM
As a 29 year old guy who grew up without cable, I watched Karate Kid and Teen Wolf taped off tv over and over every summer.

 :beer:

We had about a dozen taped-off-tv movies we watched a million times, too, and 2 of them were Karate Kid and Teen Wolf.  I can pretty much quote either.

We also had the second Indiana Jones, Goonies, Earnest Goes to Camp and some gay technicolor version of Peter Pan from the 50's where Peter Pan was a chick.

To this day, every time I see a chick in green tights pretending to be a man, I get so horny....I mean wistful.  Wistful!

By the way, last night, the Thunder became the first team in NBA history to have a 50-point-scorer, a 40-point scorer and a triple double in the same game.  We're about to have us an NBA champion a couple hours west of here, imho.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: LaMoHog on February 20, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
:beer:

We had about a dozen taped-off-tv movies we watched a million times, too, and 2 of them were Karate Kid and Teen Wolf.  I can pretty much quote either.

We also had the second Indiana Jones, Goonies, Earnest Goes to Camp and some gay technicolor version of Peter Pan from the 50's where Peter Pan was a chick.

To this day, every time I see a chick in green tights pretending to be a man, I get so horny....I mean wistful.  Wistful!

By the way, last night, the Thunder became the first team in NBA history to have a 50-point-scorer, a 40-point scorer and a triple double in the same game.  We're about to have us an NBA champion a couple hours west of here, imho.

I've watched several ballgames at the Ford Center or whatever it's called in OKC. Lot of fun, plenty to do right around there too. A lot more tail than you'd think in downtown OKC too.

I had Karate Kid II and Top Gun taped. Taped Top Gun the night they had the tornado that tore up Southside-Bee Branch. I had never seen the part where Maverick has the black co-pilot after Goose died til a few years ago, thanks to a weather bulletin.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 20, 2012, 09:09:15 AM
On top of the 50 and 40, Ibaka also had a triple double in points, rebounds, and blocks. Glad I didn't go to that game.  :suicide:


I've watched several ballgames at the Ford Center or whatever it's called in OKC. Lot of fun, plenty to do right around there too. A lot more tail than you'd think in downtown OKC too.


It's now called Chesapeake Arena or The 'Peake. For some reasons, the powers that be aren't a big fan of it being called The Gas Chamber.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 20, 2012, 12:57:15 PM
I swear every time I tried to tape something off (i.e. Swiss Family Robinson) the TV Margaret Preston was breaking in with a news alert.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 20, 2012, 01:27:56 PM
Excuse me for Linterruping Linsanity, but I just read that Greg Oden still isn't even well enough for them to continue operations on his knees.

I know people keep throwing Sam Bowie's name around, but he played in the NBA for 10 years according to Wikipedia - his sin was simply being drafted before Jordan.

I cannot even begin to think of a bigger bust, maybe in all sports, than Greg Oden.  I think he's well past Kwame Brown and maybe only can be matched by Len Bias, who died, as the biggest bust in NBA history.

People talk about Marinovich, Jamarcus and Mandarich in football, but it seems to me all three played more then Oden. 

I think he's the all-timer.

Am I the only person that has a problem with calling a guy a bust, simply because he's been to injured too play?
Oden definitely did not play at a subpar level when he was healthy or hobbled, even. I'm not going to call a guy like that a "bust."



And whoever said Adam Morrison has a ring with the Lakers.... show me a relevant second that he played in that season.
I'd call that guy a bust way before I would consider Greg Oden. Morrison just wasn't mentally strong enough to commit and work hard enough to play at the level that he was expected. Probably should've seen that coming when he was bawling on the floor after losing to UCLA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 20, 2012, 01:39:23 PM
Crazy to think that two of the biggest busts/disappointments/dumbest decisions by the front office of drafting a kid too high were by His Airness.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 20, 2012, 01:44:50 PM
Crazy to think that two of the biggest busts/disappointments/dumbest decisions by the front office of drafting a kid too high were by His Airness.

He's made a LOT of bad decisions in running the two teams he's had the opportunity to make decisions at.
There's no denying it. He sucks at putting together an NBA team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on February 20, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
He's made a LOT of bad decisions in running the two teams he's had the opportunity to make decisions at.
There's no denying it. He sucks at putting together an NBA team.

Doesn't his current team have the worst record in the NBA?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 20, 2012, 02:08:03 PM

Doesn't his current team have the worst record in the NBA?

I don't know if it's his current team or former team...  but they're both bad.

Mostly because of him, directly.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogye West on February 20, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Crazy to think that two of the biggest busts/disappointments/dumbest decisions by the front office of drafting a kid too high were by His Airness.

Crazy to think that the same organization, the Portland Trailblazers, decided Sam Bowie was a better pick than Michael Jordan and that Greg Oden was a better pick than Kevin Durant. Must sting
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 20, 2012, 06:52:08 PM

And whoever said Adam Morrison has a ring with the Lakers....
:sarcasm:

Plus he is a communist.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on February 20, 2012, 07:43:06 PM
Am I the only person that has a problem with calling a guy a bust, simply because he's been to injured too play?
I would say this is a fair point.  I'll have to give this some thought during my busy "thinking" sessions. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 23, 2012, 11:59:09 AM
You know, besides the Hogs v Tide tonight we have a few exciting NBA games: Lakers @ Thunder and Knicks @ Heat
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on February 23, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
You know, besides the Hogs v Tide tonight we have a few exciting NBA games: Lakers @ Thunder and Knicks @ Heat

Go Thunder. 

You know, when Kobe retires from the NBA, there will be no one left for me to hate.  There are no current star players that I cannot stand.  As a matter of fact, there are few that I don't actually LIKE.  Yes, I like Blake Griffin.  I like Lebron.  I like Derrick Rose.  I like Linsanity.  I love Dirk.  Actually, I don't much like Pau Gasol.  And even though he's a UALR homeboy, I don't like Fish much either.  But that's because of his association with Kobe. 

I can't imagine the NBA without anyone for me to hate.  Wait, won't Davis from KY be in the NBA next year?  I cannot stand him just because he plays for Calipari.  I guess the same is true for Wall but I don't see him play much so I don't hate him all that much.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ArkGuy on February 23, 2012, 12:15:52 PM
Fisher had a good game last night against the Mavs.  6 of 8 and some key passes at the end.

One of the two TV guys said something like, "you know for years the Lakers keep trying to put at point guard "Somebody Not Named Fisher." like they're embarrased to have him and they just need to find somebody better.  But he keeps making plays.  And now he's developed a mid-range shot, so he's even better.  Who do you think will be in at crunch time tonight; it's going to be Fisher."
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on February 23, 2012, 12:26:59 PM
Who do you think will be in at crunch time tonight; it's going to be Fisher.

And it was.  I hated that he made plays because that meant the Lakers won and as stated, I hate the Lakers because of Kobe.  I liked the showtime Lakers in the 80's.  I hated Boston back them.  McHale, Bird, Parrish, DJ.  Hated em.  Hated the Pistons in the last 80's, early 90's.  Laimbeer, Isaiah, Dumars.  Hated the 76ers and Iverson.  Didn't give a rat's ass at all about the NBA from about 2000 til just recently.  Lots of exciting stars in the league now who don't appear to be all stuck on themselves like ole Kobe is and Iverson was.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 23, 2012, 12:52:13 PM
If you watch the Lakers with any regularity you will see what a huge issue Fisher has become. He is having just an awful season offensively. He is average 5.5 points a game and I believe having his worst shooting season as a pro. Defensively he makes Ricky Rubio look like Sidney Moncrief. I, and most Laker fans I interact with, appreciate Fisher's career but he is absolutely killing the Lakers this year.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 23, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
If you watch the Lakers with any regularity you will see what a huge issue Fisher has become. He is having just an awful season offensively. He is average 5.5 points a game and I believe having his worst shooting season as a pro. Defensively he makes Ricky Rubio look like Sidney Moncrief. I, and most Laker fans I interact with, appreciate Fisher's career but he is absolutely killing the Lakers this year.
Is he that much better than the young guards they have on the bench?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 23, 2012, 12:57:50 PM
Is he that much better than the young guards they have on the bench?
Blake is a career back up. I really like Goudelock (of course he played at College of Chas so I am familiar with his game) and think he needs more run, but he isn't a distributor.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on February 23, 2012, 02:07:52 PM
When a team/player becomes espn's darling, I learn to hate them because they don't let up talking about them. That's brought on my hate for tebow and because of last year's slobfest for the Heat, I hope they lose every game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ArkGuy on February 23, 2012, 02:10:43 PM
If you watch the Lakers with any regularity you will see what a huge issue Fisher has become. ...

And I don't and therefore don't dispute a word that you said.  But last night he played well.  With about 20 seconds left, he was trapped by a double team at mid-court, but he threaded the needle on a 40 foot pass to a guy under the basket (who missed the shot and both freethrows, but still ...).

I guessing he has a night like that just often enough to keep around.  If he played bettr or worse, either way, he'd be less of an issue.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on February 23, 2012, 02:53:55 PM


Watching Shawn Marion take 18 footers last night was painful.  That is one ugly assed shot.

Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 23, 2012, 02:57:51 PM

Watching Shawn Marion take 18 footers last night was painful.  That is one ugly assed shot.
sad thing is I've seen him get on fire with that ugly shot before.  It seems impossible.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on February 23, 2012, 05:58:29 PM
I don't know if it's his current team or former team...  but they're both bad.

Mostly because of him, directly.

He's trying to out do Zeke
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on February 23, 2012, 07:32:01 PM
Don't know if anyone really cares but the heat vs. Knicks game on TNT is pretty intense.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on February 23, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
A lot of the focus is going to be placed on Lin here if the Knicks lose this game, but really, his teammates haven't finished on a lot of shots.

If you just scan the sideline shots and crowd shots, it will just amaze you at how many douches straight out of an Entourage looking get-up you see in the crowd.... yep, it's a Knicks Heat game. 
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 23, 2012, 09:29:26 PM
Second game of a back to back for NY.  Lin, Anthony, Smith and Davis aren't in rhythm yet.  Miami had a day off to get prepared and pumped for them. 

I saw Lin with some legit turnovers.  And I saw teammates not finish passes and bobble passes that hit them in his hands.  You have that with the top defensive team that will run out on you and you will get beat.

NY was constantly within striking range.  Things are coming together for them.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 24, 2012, 11:24:31 AM
I don't know if his show is any good, but it seems like Fallon's skits are better than anything SNL thinks up.

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2012/02/pearl-jam-sings-jeremy-lin/



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on February 24, 2012, 11:32:05 AM
I don't know if his show is any good, but it seems like Fallon's skits are better than anything SNL thinks up.

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2012/02/pearl-jam-sings-jeremy-lin/
ok ok ok. Now the internet is complete.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ocelot_ark on February 24, 2012, 12:38:42 PM
I don't know if his show is any good, but it seems like Fallon's skits are better than anything SNL thinks up.

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2012/02/pearl-jam-sings-jeremy-lin/

Say what you will about Fallon.  But dude's got talent.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 25, 2012, 10:02:46 AM
Once again, prepare to be underwhelmed, it's nba all-star Saturday Night!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 25, 2012, 08:52:40 PM
Durant is good.

I make jokes about it, but if NBA Satuerday night goes well it's hard to beat.  I still think they need to find a sponser to throw up a million dollar prize for the dunk contest.  We'd all see crazy things.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on February 25, 2012, 09:34:10 PM
How many consecutive years is someone going to "jump" over a teammate for the dunk?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TexZilla on February 25, 2012, 09:50:02 PM
When the NBA started this it was really clever.  Spud Webb and Dominique Wilkins made this into something.  That 3 point contest was a mess.  The slam dunk contest so far is worse than a bad root canal.

We got Diddy yelling about the revolution and black power and putting his fist up like Tommie Smith.  We have a black president and he's worth hundreds of millions.  I guess I'm not feeling his pain.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on February 25, 2012, 09:56:54 PM
Budinger just dunked it blindfolded.  And what the fuck is this blind ass mailman shit?  Gawd, this dunk contest is shitty.  I knew when they introduced Mary J. Blige, Spike Lee, and then had Diddy shouting black power that the rest of the contest would suck. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 25, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
This is a disaster.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on February 25, 2012, 10:07:11 PM
That voting shit was rigged.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on February 25, 2012, 10:16:33 PM

I think I just wore out my ff buton on my remote.  It broke just in time for me to see the kid from Crossett win, so there's that. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 25, 2012, 10:23:40 PM
I'm taking the T-Wolf winning the 3 point by default as a win.  First good thing to happen to Minnesota basketball ever.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 25, 2012, 10:38:57 PM
I'm taking the T-Wolf winning the 3 point by default as a win.  First good thing to happen to Minnesota basketball ever.
since the Lakers left?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on February 25, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
since the Lakers left?

T-Wolves basketball ever. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pigs on Parade on February 25, 2012, 10:47:54 PM
Guy that won the dunk contest is from Crossett.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on February 27, 2012, 01:13:48 AM
Who is the most Timberwolves player ever?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on February 27, 2012, 01:23:13 AM
Who is the most Timberwolves player ever?
Garnett dude had years of play good.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Southern Yeoman on February 27, 2012, 12:53:02 PM
Couldn't stay up to watch last night--how did Tree Rollins and Rory Sparrow do?
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 27, 2012, 01:11:02 PM
Garnett dude had years of play good.
Malik Sealy.  Garnett's jersey isn't retired but his is
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: THRIO on February 27, 2012, 03:50:11 PM
Malik Sealy.  Garnett's jersey isn't retired but his is

Only cause he got dead.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on February 27, 2012, 03:58:32 PM
Malik Sealy.  Garnett's jersey isn't retired but his is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46nayeVwr6k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46nayeVwr6k)

Now we are talking about a Timberwolf great.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: DrMongoose on February 27, 2012, 04:01:40 PM
Guy that won the dunk contest is from Crossett.

ok, I'll ask. why didn't we recruit him or did we?
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on February 27, 2012, 04:10:23 PM
Only cause he got dead.
some gave all
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 27, 2012, 07:18:34 PM
some gave all

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogTat on February 27, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
Couldn't stay up to watch last night--how did Tree Rollins and Rory Sparrow do?

Tree bit someone's finger.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: swimsinger on February 27, 2012, 08:31:42 PM
ok, I'll ask. why didn't we recruit him or did we?

Who knows, maybe they heard he was related to Orlando Green and didn't want to get burned...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TC on February 28, 2012, 01:44:15 AM
ok, I'll ask. why didn't we recruit him or did we?

He was unranked out of h.s.  Pretty much his only offer was Western Ky, and he didn't set the world on fire there.  He had 6 pts against stAte last year.  He's averaging just under 2 pts per game in his rookie season in the nba. 
He won a dunk contest in the nba where the dunk contest isn't cool with the cool kids.  ::)

He may prove to be a late bloomer, but he hasn't done shit yet.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on February 28, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
but he hasn't done aMm yet.

I chortled. Dude is in the League. Professional Basketball Player, in America. I'd say that's doing something. Look, he may be a below-average NBA player, but there are a lot of damn good ball players that can't even get a whiff of the NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Splurge on February 28, 2012, 10:01:19 AM
I chortled. Dude is in the League. Professional Basketball Player, in America. I'd say that's doing something. Look, he may be a below-average NBA player, but there are a lot of damn good ball players that can't even get a whiff of the NBA.

Seconded.  Completely.

Hell, there are a lot of damn good ball players that probably can't get a whiff of the NBADL.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on February 29, 2012, 06:27:38 PM
Scotty Thurman would kill to be that dude.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 01, 2012, 07:49:16 AM
Lin had 13 assists and 1 turnover last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on March 01, 2012, 08:39:35 AM
I chortled. Dude is in the League. Professional Basketball Player, in America. I'd say that's doing something. Look, he may be a below-average NBA player, but there are a lot of damn good ball players that can't even get a whiff of the NBA.
That doesn't mean we should meander around a messageboard with a "why didn't we recruit this guy?" whine.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 01, 2012, 08:43:13 AM
That doesn't mean we should meander around a messageboard with a "why didn't we recruit this guy?" whine.

Agreeance. Some are late bloomers. Maybe this guy didn't have SEC talent or grades coming out of HS, don't know, really don't care... But saying he's not done shit when he's getting minutes in the league is crazy talk.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on March 01, 2012, 08:55:15 AM
Agreeance. Some are late bloomers. Maybe this guy didn't have SEC talent or grades coming out of HS, don't know, really don't care... But saying he's not done aMm when he's getting minutes in the league is crazy talk.

Saying he hasn't done dick is just fine.
He hasn't.


Yeah, he's on a roster and playing in the NBA. Good for him. Let's not crown his ass yet.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 01, 2012, 09:02:28 AM
Saying he hasn't done dick is just fine.
He hasn't.


Yeah, he's on a roster and playing in the NBA. Good for him. Let's not crown his ass yet.

What are you polishing your skills for trial or something? You've been bristly as hell lately. Sure, hasn't done shit is relative, I guess. Compare him to Kobe or Michael--hasn't done shit. Comparing him to Arthur Agee or William Gates--he's doing some things.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on March 01, 2012, 09:17:43 AM
What are you polishing your skills for trial or something? You've been bristly as Starkville lately. Sure, hasn't done aMm is relative, I guess. Compare him to Kobe or Michael--hasn't done aMm. Comparing him to Arthur Agee or William Gates--he's doing some things.

fricking christ.
Look....

He was unranked out of h.s.  Pretty much his only offer was Western Ky, and he didn't set the world on fire there.  He had 6 pts against stAte last year.  He's averaging just under 2 pts per game in his rookie season in the nba. 
He won a dunk contest in the nba where the dunk contest isn't cool with the cool kids.  ::)

He may prove to be a late bloomer, but he hasn't done aMm yet.

The fact that multiple people read that and decided to say things like "dude, he's in the league," is ridiculous.
He didn't play ball here because nobody wanted him. He's averaging 2 pts a game for a bad team. Yeah, we hope he does well... but whining about how we didn't recruit him is reaching, at best.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 01, 2012, 09:30:35 AM
fricking christ.
Look....

The fact that multiple people read that and decided to say things like "dude, he's in the league," is ridiculous.
He didn't play ball here because nobody wanted him. He's averaging 2 pts a game. Yeah, we hope he does well... but whining about how we didn't recruit him is reaching, at best.

Who the frick is whining about not recruiting him? Just because I maintain that he is a talented athlete whose unique physical tools found him a place on an NBA roster does not imply that I believe he should have been a Hog. I can make that distinction. Perhaps admitting the fact that there was an NBA-level athlete from Arkansas that didn't get a look from U of A chafes you just little bit?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on March 01, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
Who the frick is whining about not recruiting him? Just because I maintain that he is a talented athlete whose unique physical tools found him a place on an NBA roster does not imply that I believe he should have been a Hog. I can make that distinction. Perhaps admitting the fact that there was an NBA-level athlete from Arkansas that didn't get a look from U of A chafes you just little bit?
The question was posed. Go read the fucking thread.

Why are you getting all nursery school about it?
We talk shit endlessly in thread after thread, but you feel bad here because he's made an NBA roster and by god, that's accomplishing something?

I'm not chafed about shit. He went to WKU. In the SunBelt. Good for him, he's in the NBA. Let's put him in the Arkansas Sports Hall of Fame. He's better than the Hoop Dreams kids, YAAAAAYYYY!!

Just fuck off.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on March 01, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
The question was posed. Go read the fucking thread.

Why are you getting all nursery school about it?
We talk shit endlessly in thread after thread, but you feel bad here because he's made an NBA roster and by god, that's accomplishing something?

I'm not chafed about shit. He went to WKU. In the SunBelt. Good for him, he's in the NBA. Let's put him in the Arkansas Sports Hall of Fame. He's better than the Hoop Dreams kids, YAAAAAYYYY!!

Just fuck off.

You seem sensitive. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on March 01, 2012, 09:44:05 AM
You seem sensitive.

I am a complex personality.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 01, 2012, 09:54:21 AM
The question was posed. Go read the fricking thread.

Why are you getting all nursery school about it?
We talk aMm endlessly in thread after thread, but you feel bad here because he's made an NBA roster and by god, that's accomplishing something?

I'm not chafed about aMm. He went to WKU. In the SunBelt. Good for him, he's in the NBA. Let's put him in the Arkansas Sports Hall of Fame. He's better than the Hoop Dreams kids, YAAAAAYYYY!!

Just frick off.

Good talk. GFY.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on March 04, 2012, 11:18:20 AM
Josh Smith over Ibaka last night
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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 05, 2012, 11:12:02 AM
Kobe just dealt for Rose in The Woopig Association. March 8th is the trade deadline.


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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 05, 2012, 11:32:14 AM
Kobe just dealt for Rose in The Woopig Association. March 8th is the trade deadline.


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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on March 05, 2012, 12:45:30 PM
Think it will help us both.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on March 05, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
Think it will help us both.

I agree. So long as Kobe don't break down from all the minutes he's playing.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 05, 2012, 01:03:59 PM
I agree. So long as Kobe don't break down from all the minutes he's playing.
Not sure why he isn't being mentioned in the MVP race. Yeah, I am a Laker fan, but the guy is killing it. They are virtually tied for the 3 seed in the West with no bench or point guard.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on March 05, 2012, 01:19:42 PM
I haven't been a Kobe fan but I've got a new level of respect for him. He's been hurt since the opening day. If he can walk he's gonna play.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on March 05, 2012, 01:24:12 PM
He was taking it to Wade in the first period
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 05, 2012, 02:47:33 PM
Kobe is a competitive mofo. Most competitive player since Jordan IMO. Lebron is more talented, no doubt, but if he had Kobe's drive I think LBJ would have a chance to be the best ever. As it stands MJ is clearly the best since I have been watching but I think Kobe can be at least mentioned in the same vicinity as Michael.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on March 05, 2012, 03:01:48 PM
Had that very same discussion with some guys yesterday. Durant has that fire as well. He's proven to be clutch and wants the ball with the game on the line.
Title: Re: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on March 05, 2012, 04:42:17 PM
Had that very same discussion with some guys yesterday. Durant has that fire as well. He's proven to be clutch and wants the ball with the game on the line.

Durant is semi-quietly Jordaning in his career.  Already got some scoring titles, already becoming Mr. Clutch.  Needs some titles now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 05, 2012, 05:20:35 PM
Had that very same discussion with some guys yesterday. Durant has that fire as well. He's proven to be clutch and wants the ball with the game on the line.
Durant is semi-quietly Jordaning in his career.  Already got some scoring titles, already becoming Mr. Clutch.  Needs some titles now.
Agreed on all accounts
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on March 08, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
Last day for trades in the fantasy league.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 12, 2012, 07:56:08 PM
Real NBA trade deadline is Thursday. Interesting to see if Gasol, Rondo, Howard are dealt.

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Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on March 12, 2012, 07:58:43 PM
I've fallen off
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on March 12, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOzo4pHTZ-M
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on March 13, 2012, 07:38:08 AM
Real NBA trade deadline is Thursday. Interesting to see if Gasol, Rondo, Howard are dealt.

1.         Death By Sooiecide    67-30-2    
2.         Tickle the Twine    56-42-1    
3.         TheBartonFinks    53-45-1    
4.         Hogsfan4life    47-49-3 -- rocked DBS last week   
5.         Rim Jobs    45-54-0    
6.         Cock Asian    43-53-3
7.         Tusk til Dawn    40-57-2
8.         As the World Sterns    38-59-2

Sun shines on a dog's ass every now and then
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on March 13, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Real NBA trade deadline is Thursday. Interesting to see if Gasol, Rondo, Howard are dealt.

1.         Death By Sooiecide    67-30-2    
2.         Tickle the Twine    56-42-1    
3.         TheBartonFinks    53-45-1    
4.         Hogsfan4life    47-49-3 -- rocked DBS last week   
5.         Rim Jobs    45-54-0    
6.         Cock Asian    43-53-3
7.         Tusk til Dawn    40-57-2
8.         As the World Sterns    38-59-2

Yeah but I think you're gonna hand me my ass this week.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 13, 2012, 07:46:04 PM
Warriors to send Monta Ellis to Bucks in trade for Andrew Bogut

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_monta_ellis_andrew_bogut_trade_031312

The Golden State Warriors have agreed in principle to trade guard Monta Ellis and two players to the Milwaukee Bucks for center Andrew Bogut and Stephen Jackson, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on March 14, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
Grizzly rape:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/mar/14/geoff-calkins-its-tough-win-when-refs-take-sides/

Normally Caulkins is kind of goofy, but this article is about what I thought...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on March 14, 2012, 01:51:14 PM
Looks like the Knicks need a new coach. I'm thinking Lin.

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=7686638
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on March 14, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
Maybe they can pull the trigger on this one and sign him:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/mar/14/griz-interested-free-agent-guard-gilbert-arenas/
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 14, 2012, 08:40:44 PM
Maybe they can pull the trigger on this one and sign him:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/mar/14/griz-interested-free-agent-guard-gilbert-arenas/
Iswydt
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on March 14, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
Nice FUK LBJ shirt in the stands of the Chi/Mia game
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: aboynamedsooiee on March 14, 2012, 10:17:12 PM
His stat line won't show it, but Ronnie Brewer has kicked the Heat's ass tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on March 15, 2012, 02:43:21 PM
Lakers are pretty busy. Didn't think Fisher would be traded. I wonder if this is one of those deals where he gets cut and joins the Lakers a month later.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17818983/reports-lakers-trade-derek-fisher-pick-to-rockets-for-jordan-hill?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on March 15, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
Rockets also picked up Camby too
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on March 19, 2012, 07:30:17 PM
Pending the physical, looks like Agent Zero is coming to the Grizzlies.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/mar/19/grizzlies-prepared-sign-free-agent-guard-gilbert-a/

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on March 19, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Pending the physical, looks like Agent Zero is coming to the Grizzlies.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/mar/19/grizzlies-prepared-sign-free-agent-guard-gilbert-a/

(http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-celebrity-pictures-not-sure-if-want.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on March 21, 2012, 04:48:31 PM
Lakers are pretty busy. Didn't think Fisher would be traded. I wonder if this is one of those deals where he gets cut and joins the Lakers a month later.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17818983/reports-lakers-trade-derek-fisher-pick-to-rockets-for-jordan-hill?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001

Looks like I was wrong on him re-signing with the Lakers. I pulled this from an article in the OKC newspaper.

Thanks to the NBA finally closing a loophole that for years had allowed players to re-sign with the team that had traded them after only 30 days, Fisher can't return to the Lakers. Under the new collective bargaining agreement, Fisher must wait until July 1 to re-sign with the Lakers, which means if he wants to play this season he'd have to sign elsewhere. And according to reports, the 37-year-old is interested in signing with a contender and continuing his career.

Read more: http://newsok.com/thunder-imagine-derek-fisher-inside-an-oklahoma-city-uniform/article/3659018#ixzz1pn3gcpj5



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 21, 2012, 07:49:01 PM
Yeah Fisher is the player rep and he agreed to the CBA. Now he is signing with OKC
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on March 23, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
I was kind of expecting more out of his Intros. Guess that's what happens when Samuel L. Jackson is giving the Intros and not a character that he's played.

http://youtu.be/rGJjBp2TeW0 (http://youtu.be/rGJjBp2TeW0)


In other news, Vinny Del Negro is on the verge of being fired and Chris Paul just went 0-3 in his homecoming week. Lost to the Thunder (Hornets played in OKC his first 2 years in the league), lost to the Pacers (former running mate David West plays for them), and also lost to the Hornets.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 23, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
Kevin Love dropped 51 in a loss to the Thunder. Westbrook notched 45, Durant 40.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on March 23, 2012, 10:45:45 PM
Kevin Love dropped 51 in a loss to the Thunder. Westbrook notched 45, Durant 40.

Before tonight I had never watched an NBA game over March Madness. 51, 45, 40, a triple double by J.J. Barea, and it being a double O.T. game will do that to you.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Simple_Existence on March 23, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
Blake Griffin was taken out by Jason Smith on his way to the basket.  Smith is kicked out of the game and his New Orleans' crowd is giving him a standing ovation while he is exiting the court.  Damn those New Orleans defensive tactics, I bet he was paid extra.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1117187-jason-smith-hornets-forward-suspended-2-games-by-nba-for-foul-on-blake-griffin
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on March 24, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
Smith is kicked out of the game and his New Orleans' crowd is giving him a standing ovation while he is exiting the court. 

That's great.  I guess I'm an evil person.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on March 25, 2012, 11:51:59 PM
What a puss. 
Kobe Bryant is getting mad that he's not getting the touch fouls from the referees so he takes himself out of a winnable game.
At home, down 14 with 6 minutes left.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on March 26, 2012, 09:03:11 AM
What a puss. 
Kobe Bryant is getting mad that he's not getting the touch fouls from the referees so he takes himself out of a winnable game.
At home, down 14 with 6 minutes left.
Get your facts straight. He was subbed for. Secondly, Kobe Bryant is far from a puss. He's a tough SOB that plays through injuries and he does work on both ends of the floor.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 26, 2012, 11:45:16 AM
Playoffs begin tonight in the Woopig Fantasy League  O0 :beer:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on March 26, 2012, 03:39:34 PM
Get your facts straight. He was subbed for. Secondly, Kobe Bryant is far from a puss. He's a tough SOB that plays through injuries and he does work on both ends of the floor.

Bryant is a crybaby that didn't take the floor when his team needed him and now the Lakers and ESPN are trying to spin this like Coach Brown subbed for him.   I never saw Michael Jordan have to be "subbed for" when it was crunch time and the game was on the line.  Or Lebron for that fact.
 
Remember that game a few years back (pre-Gasol) when the Suns were kicking the Lakers ass in a playoff series and Kobe came out and didn't try only taking 3 shots in the whole game cause he's a puss and his little feelings were hurt.  It was the same thing.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on March 26, 2012, 09:30:57 PM
Get your facts straight. He was subbed for. Secondly, Kobe Bryant is far from a puss. He's a tough SOB that plays through injuries and he does work on both ends of the floor.

and whines when hes not getting calls.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on March 26, 2012, 09:42:57 PM
and whines when hes not getting calls.
Insert every single 'star' player in the NBA in front of this statement. Tim Duncan one of the worst.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Barton Fink on March 26, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
Insert every single 'star' player in the NBA in front of this statement. Tim Duncan one of the worst.

Who me???

(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0429/espn_g_duncan2_sy_300.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on March 26, 2012, 10:21:16 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201203/120326.01.jpg
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201203/120326.01.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on March 27, 2012, 06:15:20 AM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201203/120326.01.jpg
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201203/120326.01.jpg)
:maundoed:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on March 28, 2012, 09:22:02 AM
Looks like I didn't give Duncan credit for everything he did that night.


Apparently, the official reason for Duncan sitting was his age. After he has been with the Spurs for 15 season Tim Duncan was listed as DND-OLD.  DND stand for Did Not Dress, you do not need a dictionary to know what old means.

Duncan still managed to pull of a technical foul even from the bench.


Referee Josh Tiven handed Duncan a technical foul in the first half for unwelcome comments after Manu Ginobili fell hard on a drive to the basket but didn’t receive a call. What makes it worse is this is not even the first time that Tim Duncan has been given a technical foul from the bench.  During a game against Dallas back in 2007, referee Joey Crawford ejected Duncan for laughing from the bench. Crawford was suspended for the altercation


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/211390/tim-duncan-given-night-off-reason-written-on-spurs-roster-old/#GhTuBQp5OgGxW2I9.99
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 06, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
The Grizz are smokin' the Heat. :thumbup:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: papermill on April 07, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
he does work on both ends of the floor.

In the past he also did work on both ends of a trashy white girl who wasn't 100% thrilled about it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on April 09, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
I just wanted to utilize this space in an appropriate thread to say that Lamar Odom is a soft, worthless individual.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on April 11, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
For those of you looking for a little comic relief:

Rose contra Bayless,

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7800707&categoryid=2378529
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 13, 2012, 07:14:23 AM
Just a few days left in the First Annual Woopig Fantasy Basketball Championship


   
Score
Death By Sooiecide     5
Tickle the Twine       4
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on April 13, 2012, 08:33:09 AM
Fitting.  Death by Sooiecide dominated for most of the season and TtT was able to dethrone my epic 7 week win streak.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 16, 2012, 06:18:35 AM
Holy jeez. I won the championship 5-4 with the deciding category steals. I had 38, tickle the twine had 37.


Good season. Now my baseball team needs some help
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on April 17, 2012, 08:22:18 PM
That was fun. Glad I came in 2nd. It was close down to the very end. Good season boys. Now looking to baseball.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on April 17, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
Good season guys.  Injuries got me in the end.

Sign me up for any baseball/football/basketball woopig leagues in the future
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 23, 2012, 12:22:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuZp3cGvuP4
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 24, 2012, 08:57:47 PM
Less that a minute to go, Joe Johnson just threw one in from Marietta vs the Clippers...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 24, 2012, 09:39:55 PM
Huge Knicks fan tomorrow.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 24, 2012, 10:27:41 PM
Huge Knicks fan tomorrow.
Absolutely.

At least now we won't have to put up with those 3000 bandwagon Faker fans for the playoffs with their oversize jerseys, arrogance, and general jackassedness.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 24, 2012, 11:50:56 PM
Huge Knicks fan tomorrow.

(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/GIFs/nod-of-approval.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Boar Grylls on April 25, 2012, 01:49:46 AM
Don't want any part of the grizzlebees next week. Hope it's the Nugs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on April 25, 2012, 02:42:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuZp3cGvuP4

Nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZUv95evcjI
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 25, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
Considering the Thunder have struggled with the Spurs and Clippers this year and that the Grizz are always a tough match-up I like that they are on the other side of the bracket.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on April 25, 2012, 11:32:42 AM
I'm not sure I would want the 1 seed in the West if I am OKC or San Antonio. The Mavs just aren't the same team without Chandler protecting the rim and Utah has a great front line with Favors, Millsap, and Jefferson who combined for 40 rebounds last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 25, 2012, 02:48:14 PM
Considering the Thunder have struggled with the Spurs and Clippers this year and that the Grizz are always a tough match-up I like that they are on the other side of the bracket.

I love the fact Grizz won't see OKC until the conference finals.

I'd really like to get the 4 seed so a potential game 7 with LAC would be in the Grindhouse.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 25, 2012, 05:15:25 PM
Chris Paul is out tonight against the Knicks.  O0
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 25, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
Someone needs to cut the Internet off at MSG.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 25, 2012, 09:46:48 PM
Someone needs to cut the Internet off at MSG.
Blow an 18 point lead with 8 minutes to play?  They almost shat the bed.

Thank you J.R. Smith.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 25, 2012, 10:17:47 PM
The Novak deflection that somehow ricocheted of the backboard was huge.

It's going to be fun at the Grindhouse tomorrow night!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 26, 2012, 09:52:11 AM
Thunder pissed away a good chance to get the Nugs at the 7 spot. Will probably face the Mavs.

Anyone else following the attempted oust of Derek Fisher as President of the NBPA after he asked that the Union conduct an external audit? This is going to get u.g.l.y.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 26, 2012, 10:46:42 AM
The Grizz playoff series will begin Sunday.


@johnschuhmann: Chicago, Miami, Indiana & OKC will all host Game 1s on Saturday. Spurs, Lakers & both 4/5 series will start Sunday.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 26, 2012, 11:36:27 AM


Anyone else following the attempted oust of Derek Fisher as President of the NBPA after he asked that the Union conduct an external audit? This is going to get u.g.l.y.
So far looks like Billy Hunter is as crooked as a snake.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 26, 2012, 09:19:10 PM
The Grizz playoff series will begin Sunday.


@johnschuhmann: Chicago, Miami, Indiana & OKC will all host Game 1s on Saturday. Spurs, Lakers & both 4/5 series will start Sunday.

Grind.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 26, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/GIFs/boratgroupdance5is.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 26, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
Great crowd tonight at the Forum. Supposedly, Jessica Biel was in attendance.

I hope we don't draw the 9:30 tip Sunday. I'll never remember being there.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 26, 2012, 10:31:11 PM
Per Chris Herrington from the Memphis Flyer:

@FlyerGrizBlog: Game 1 vs Clippers is 8:30 p.m. Sunday. Game 2 will be 8:30 Weds. Game 3 in LA is 1:30 Saturday.  Rest of series, as needed: Mon.  7th, Wed. 9th (in MEM), Fri. 11th, and Sun 13th (in MEM)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on April 26, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
@FlyerGrizBlog: Correction: 1:30 time for Game 3 was local L.A. So, 3:30 central time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on April 27, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
Interesting that the Clips seemingly gave up on getting the four seed by sitting CP3 the other night. I would think the Grizz/Clips series goes 6 or 7 games and home court advantage could be the difference.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on April 27, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
grind forth
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on April 27, 2012, 10:08:39 PM
So far looks like Billy Hunter is as crooked as a snake.

Union leadership being crooked and corrupt?   You got to be kidding me.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 28, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
Interesting that the Clips seemingly gave up on getting the four seed by sitting CP3 the other night. I would think the Grizz/Clips series goes 6 or 7 games and home court advantage could be the difference.

Grizz wont lose at home, take one in LA. No way it goes 7.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on April 28, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
Grizz wont lose at home, take one in LA. No way it goes 7.

If the Grizz can find a way to contain Chris Paul then maybe, but this feels like a 7 game series to me. I still think the Grizz win the series, but it will be interesting to see how the Grizz handle expectations that they will make some noise in the playoffs this year as opposed to last year when they shocked everyone by beating the Spurs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 28, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
If the Grizz can find a way to contain Chris Paul then maybe, but this feels like a 7 game series to me. I still think the Grizz win the series, but it will be interesting to see how the Grizz handle expectations that they will make some noise in the playoffs this year as opposed to last year when they shocked everyone by beating the Spurs.

They handled them in Memphis 2wks ago without Tony Allen. The whole series really hinges on what Paul does. Conley and Allen can keep him off his game enough that he wont be able to take over.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 28, 2012, 05:15:39 PM
So, um, about Rose's knee.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on April 28, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
He had a good career.  acl and mcl
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 29, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
What's old is new or something like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AlUAfrjv7E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AlUAfrjv7E)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hog Leg on April 29, 2012, 02:21:22 PM
What's old is new or something like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AlUAfrjv7E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AlUAfrjv7E)

That is exactly what I thought of when I saw that shot fall last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on April 29, 2012, 08:47:48 PM
Celtics lose....rondo bumps official and is tossed. 


May not see him rest of series
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on April 29, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
Z-Bo is going to make Blake Griffin his bitch this series.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 29, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
Z-Bo is going to make Blake Griffin his bitch this series.


My daughter got invited to the game tonight.  She is sitting in those once in a lifetime seats about 30 rows up center court.  Glad SHE has a frien with money!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 29, 2012, 10:00:17 PM
Gasol is the man tonight, along with the Grizz outside shooting.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on April 29, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
LOL City :2bird:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on April 29, 2012, 10:01:12 PM
why does barkley look skinny in the commercials but fat on live TV?  conundrum.   ???
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 29, 2012, 10:48:34 PM
Man we are taking the Clippers to the woodshed.  Keeping Griffin pushed out of the paint has worked well.  We have harassed Paul more than the Romans did.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on April 29, 2012, 11:16:49 PM
That is exactly what I thought of when I saw that shot fall last night.

Shit like this makes me feel old.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: crote on April 29, 2012, 11:18:01 PM
haha whoops
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 29, 2012, 11:20:23 PM
That was an epic collapse.

Damn that hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7GvGqJquCU
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Doc Hogaday on April 29, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
LOL City :2bird:

LOL somebody, just not the Clips.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on April 29, 2012, 11:27:10 PM
28-3 run...

run over by a truck that is.

Wow, man they just got hot and we just quit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Satchuation on April 29, 2012, 11:33:44 PM
Glad I was able to watch 3 1/2 quarters of a thorough ass-whipping and turn it off just before the greatest comeback ever happened. Fuck you, NBA Playoffs. And Memphis Grizzlies. And Mike Conley for going to Ohio State. And Marreesssee Speights for acting like a dickbag the entire game (even though that 97 mph heater he fired down the floor was pretty badass).

At least Tom Thibodeau feels vindicated now for having Rose in with only a 12-point lead.

Guys getting knees, bumping officials, choking. Bunch of weird, wild stuff going on. I think I'm going to pick the Pacers to win it all.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 30, 2012, 12:17:58 AM
Lol grizzlies
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on April 30, 2012, 11:15:55 AM
I can't stand watching the Hawks...I love Joe but seeing Josh Smith jack up shots like he's Scottie Pippin makes me cringe. Yesterday dude was on his game but I don't know how some of those shots fall, he reminds me of a 5th grade fat kid trying to do fade away arc shots in from mid-range. It's painful to watch.


Sucks for the Bulls that Rose went down but what the fuck was he doing hot dogging jump hops with a minute to go in a 12 point game? I mean...I'll accept that he was out there and leave it at that...he didn't need to be that aggressive with nothing left to prove in the game. He's going to be one of those guys that will have to change his entire game up now that he's had a knee. This may prove to be a good thing or it could just mean that the guy fades away into being a mediocre 12 to 15ppg guard the remainder of his career.



Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on April 30, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
I can't stand watching the Hawks...I love Joe but seeing Josh Smith jack up shots like he's Scottie Pippin makes me cringe. Yesterday dude was on his game but I don't know how some of those shots fall, he reminds me of a 5th grade fat kid trying to do fade away arc shots in from mid-range. It's painful to watch.




I would have agreed with you in the past, but Josh Smith is actually having a career year this season. He still isn't a very good shooter but he should be able to get to the basket in this series seeing as the Celtics don't have anyone to protect the rim.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 30, 2012, 01:03:27 PM

Sucks for the Bulls that Rose went down but what the fuck was he doing hot dogging jump hops with a minute to go in a 12 point game? I mean...I'll accept that he was out there and leave it at that...he didn't need to be that aggressive with nothing left to prove in the game. He's going to be one of those guys that will have to change his entire game up now that he's had a knee. This may prove to be a good thing or it could just mean that the guy fades away into being a mediocre 12 to 15ppg guard the remainder of his career.

I'm sure some of y'all have heard about a Nike shoe designer blaming it on the Adidas Rose wears, and here's an article on how the shoes may have actually had an impact in his injuries. http://www.hoopsauthority.com/2012/04/derrick-rose-injury-shoe-change-could.html

I've heard Bill Simmons wrote a chapter in one of his books about Grant Hill wearing Fila and that being the downfall of his career. It looks like he might be writing a new chapter about poor shoe choice.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on April 30, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
I'm sure some of y'all have heard about a Nike shoe designer blaming it on the Adidas Rose wears, and here's an article on how the shoes may have actually had an impact in his injuries. http://www.hoopsauthority.com/2012/04/derrick-rose-injury-shoe-change-could.html

I've heard Bill Simmons wrote a chapter in one of his books about Grant Hill wearing Fila and that being the downfall of his career. It looks like he might be writing a new chapter about poor shoe choice.

Perhaps just taking any ole endorsement deal isn't the wisest thing you can do as a pro athlete with everything riding on 2 legs. I'm sure Rose got paid well to wear those shoes...only if he's never the same again Adidas will drop him like yesterday's news.

I had heard that about Grant Hill, I remember thinking surely his team doctors would have caught onto something like that. They let that man basically wear his ankle down to bone. I'm not sure how painful that was but to still be playing at 39 years old at a reasonably high level deserves much respect. I never really thought of him as a HOF player in his prime but he's got to be nearing HOF numbers. I think the lack of rings may hurt his chances.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on April 30, 2012, 01:31:49 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7872659/brooklyn-nets-unveil-logos-colors-2012-13

(http://a.espncdn.com/espnradiostations/i/espnnewyork/radio/features/NetsNewLogo300x200.jpg)

NEW YORK -- New name. New borough. New arena. New logo, too.

The Brooklyn Nets unveiled their brand-new logo on Monday morning.

The Nets will have a black and white color scheme, which pays homage to the old New York subway signage system.

The Nets will have a pair of primary logos. The first features a shield and the name "NETS" accompanied by the letter "B" inside a basketball and "BROOKLYN" underneath. The second features the letter "B" inside a basketball wrapped around "BROOKLYN NEW YORK."

"Hello Brooklyn! I've been waiting a long time to say that," center Brook Lopez said at the team's formal logo unveiling at the Modell's Sporting Goods store across the street from the team's new home, the Barclays Center.

The Nets will move into the $1 billion arena at the start of the 2012-13 season.

"We've been waiting a long time for this," CEO Brett Yormark said. "The Brooklyn Nets are finally part of the conversation."

Yormark said that the Nets' circular logo will be at center court at the Barclays Center. Yormark referred to the shield as "the shield of Brooklyn," and it will appear on the team's shorts.

Team part owner Jay-Z played an instrumental role in the design of the logo.

"The Brooklyn Nets logos are another step we've made to usher the organization into a new era," Jay-Z said in a statement. "The boldness of the designs demonstrate the confidence we have in our new direction. Along with our move to Brooklyn and a state-of-the-art arena, the new colors and logos are examples of our commitment to update and refine all aspects of the team."

The hip-hop mogul and Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, the majority owner of the Nets, were not in attendance.

A spokeswoman for Prokhorov said he "loves" the new logo. According to the spokeswoman, the logo began being designed a year ago, and discussions were still taking place as of a few weeks ago.

Brooklyn has not had a professional sports franchise since the Dodgers left in 1957. Developer Bruce Ratner, who pushed for the move to Brooklyn beginning a decade ago, said the curse of former Dodgers owner Walter O'Malley, who moved the team to Los Angeles, is dead as of "(Monday)."

The Nets will unveil their new uniforms sometime in the fall. They are the only team in the league to have a black and white color scheme.

NBA deputy commissioner Adam Silver isn't going to root for the Nets, per se but believes it's important for the team to get off to a good start as it begins to cultivate an identity in Brooklyn.

"They'll get it done. They were unlucky last season, and it didn't help that they were playing in a temporary arena and about to make a move," Silver said. "Cementing their identity in Brooklyn, I believe, will help in player recruitment as well."

General manager Billy King wants the team to be competitive immediately.

"We're not gonna build slowly," King said.

Coach Avery Johnson said that hopefully, "at his time next year you guys will be in my press conference for the 2013 playoffs."

King has a lot of work to do. The Nets wrapped up their 35th and final year in New Jersey with a 22-44 record. They have not made the playoffs since 2006-07.

Superstar point guard Deron Williams has reiterated his intentions to opt out and become a free agent. Williams said he'd like to come back and be part of the first team in Brooklyn Nets' franchise history, but he's expected to be heavily courted by a number of suitors, most notably his hometown Dallas Mavericks.

Lopez, a restricted free agent, wants to stay with the organization that drafted him. Small forward Gerald Wallace has said he'd like to return but plans to opt out because he wants a multiyear deal. Power forward Kris Humphries is an unrestricted free agent.

MarShon Brooks, Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro and Jordan Williams are the only Nets who have guaranteed contracts for the upcoming season.

Merchandise featuring the Brooklyn Nets' new identity is available at Brooklynnets.com and the NBA Store on Fifth Avenue.

Mike Mazzeo is a regular contributor for ESPNNewYork.com.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_DLD7OMUns
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on April 30, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
Shoulda changed the name to the Brooklyn Dodgers.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on April 30, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7872659/brooklyn-nets-unveil-logos-colors-2012-13

(http://a.espncdn.com/espnradiostations/i/espnnewyork/radio/features/NetsNewLogo300x200.jpg)

NEW YORK -- New name. New borough. New arena. New logo, too.

The Brooklyn Nets unveiled their brand-new logo on Monday morning.

The Nets will have a black and white color scheme, which pays homage to the old New York subway signage system.

The Nets will have a pair of primary logos. The first features a shield and the name "NETS" accompanied by the letter "B" inside a basketball and "BROOKLYN" underneath. The second features the letter "B" inside a basketball wrapped around "BROOKLYN NEW YORK."


"The Brooklyn Nets logos are another step we've made to usher the organization into a new era," Jay-Z said in a statement. "The boldness of the designs demonstrate the confidence we have in our new direction. Along with our move to Brooklyn and a state-of-the-art arena, the new colors and logos are examples of our commitment to update and refine all aspects of the team."

The hip-hop mogul and Russian billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov, the majority owner of the Nets, were not in attendance.

A spokeswoman for Prokhorov said he "loves" the new logo. According to the spokeswoman, the logo began being designed a year ago, and discussions were still taking place as of a few weeks ago.

The Nets will unveil their new uniforms sometime in the fall. They are the only team in the league to have a black and white color scheme.



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/New_Jersey_Nets.svg/200px-New_Jersey_Nets.svg.png)

When did making your colors black and white and slightly changing your current logo become bold? Outside of flat bill hats, what are they going to sell?


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on April 30, 2012, 03:58:54 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/New_Jersey_Nets.svg/200px-New_Jersey_Nets.svg.png)

When did making your colors black and white and slightly changing your current logo become bold? Outside of flat bill hats, what are they going to sell?

I don't know about bold, but I like the B/W. Those unis are gonna be clean, as the kids used to say.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogeye_Pierce on April 30, 2012, 04:14:00 PM

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/New_Jersey_Nets.svg/200px-New_Jersey_Nets.svg.png)

When did making your colors black and white and slightly changing your current logo become bold? Outside of flat bill hats, what are they going to sell?

Just looks dull and old school to me. 'Course I'm just one of those "hip to be square" types anyway.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: crote on April 30, 2012, 06:28:20 PM
I don't know about bold, but I like the B/W. Those unis are gonna be clean, as the kids used to say.

I'll have to see what the unis look like, but a B/W scheme sounds cool.  Seems like it's part of the same trend as with the new (old) colors in Philadelphia and DC, moving away from the gross silver/teal bullshit so many teams moved to 10-15 years ago.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 01, 2012, 10:10:05 AM
James Harden needs to trim his beard.  So does Brian Wilson but this is an NBA thread.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 01, 2012, 10:16:34 AM
James Harden needs to trim his beard.  So does Brian Wilson but this is an NBA thread.

No shit. He's starting to look like a Pharoah.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 01, 2012, 11:38:04 AM
James Harden needs to trim his beard.  So does Brian Wilson but this is an NBA thread.

I really love watching Harden play. At times he looks like the best player on OKC even when Durant and Westbrook are on the floor with him. He doesn't have a ton of athletic ability but he is very crafty and almost always makes the right play. He reminds me a lot of Manu Ginobili, two not so athletic left handers who can take over the game off of the bench.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 01, 2012, 12:19:25 PM
I really love watching Harden play. At times he looks like the best player on OKC even when Durant and Westbrook are on the floor with him. He doesn't have a ton of athletic ability but he is very crafty and almost always makes the right play. He reminds me a lot of Manu Ginobili, two not so athletic left handers who can take over the game off of the bench.

Agree totally.  I'm a Mavericks fan though so I hate him and Durantula and Westbrook right now.  If OKC moves on, I'll be rooting for them.  I really like Durant and Harden.  Westbrook, eh, he seems like a punk.  Other than Kobe, there are almost NO players I dislike in the NBA right now.  Westbrook is very close to being on the Kobe list.  Of course, I used to hate Fisher but now that he plays for OKC, I like him again.  :)  Oh, you know, I don't like Pau Gasol either.  Again, that's probably because he's on the same team as Kobe.  I used to LOVE the Lakers but I dislike Kobe so much that even if the rest of the Lakers consisted of former Razorbacks, I'd still hate them.

Unfortunately, the Lakers looked totally in control of game 1 against Denver. 

The Knicks are done for.

The Mavs will win games 3 and 4 in Dallas. 
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 01, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
I'm sure some of y'all have heard about a Nike shoe designer blaming it on the Adidas Rose wears, and here's an article on how the shoes may have actually had an impact in his injuries. http://www.hoopsauthority.com/2012/04/derrick-rose-injury-shoe-change-could.html

I've heard Bill Simmons wrote a chapter in one of his books about Grant Hill wearing Fila and that being the downfall of his career. It looks like he might be writing a new chapter about poor shoe choice.
What kind of shoe was Shumpert wearing?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 01, 2012, 12:32:49 PM
Harden's my favorite player on the team and I think he's the most exciting player to watch on the team in person.

Just from an entertainment perspective, Durant can be boring to watch since all he usually does is shoot jumpers and free throws. With Westbrook I'm usually holding my breath, even when his mid-range jumper is falling like it has the past couple of nights, because I still don't trust his decision making and am always waiting on him to snap and pout when things go bad. With Harden you know he will usually make the best basketball decision/play and the pick and roll with him and Collison can be thing of beauty to watch.


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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 01, 2012, 12:38:35 PM
Chris Herrington ‏ @FlyerGrizBlog

Lionel hollins just said that tony allen missed practice to have his knee looked at by a doctor. No word on availability for tomorrow.


 :sick:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 01, 2012, 01:05:35 PM
What kind of shoe was Shumpert wearing?

Adidas. Dwight Howard also wears Adidas. I know blaming a shoe company for injuries is a stretch, but this one might have some credence, if they were all wearing shoes that essentially forced them to change the way they've ran their entire lives.


Rose debuted the Adidas adiZero Rose 2.5 January 18 with the shoe only weighing 11.7 oz. As the lightest shoe on the market, many wondered how NBA-caliber athletes would respond to the flexibility of such a lightweight shoe.

This shoe could be compared to the Nike Free, which was originally developed to give runners flexibility and a “natural foot movement.” The Adidas adiZero Rose 2.5 shoe immediately received backlash with the amount of injuries developed due to the lightness and natural motions of the shoe. It did not have enough support and was too light for the “hardcore” runner, which, if you've seen Rose play, you'd know he's probably the most "hardcore" runner in the league.

While the adiZero shoe might be suitable for the occasional basketball player, according to a source who works directly with NBA players and their footwear, questions were also raised within competing shoe companies about the durability of the shoe for the NBA player.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 01, 2012, 02:00:41 PM
Kobe's a bad motherfucker.  Hatas gonna hate, but I love his drive to win games.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 01, 2012, 02:09:14 PM
Kobe's a bad motherfucker.  Hatas gonna hate, but I love his drive to win games.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Law_Hawg on May 01, 2012, 02:41:25 PM


Get your new Amar'e Stoudemire shirt!

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 01, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
Kobe's a bad motherfucker.  Hatas gonna hate, but I love his drive to win games.

I don't think anyone anywhere hates Kobe for being a shitty basketball player.  They hate him for being such a huge fag.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on May 01, 2012, 03:25:44 PM


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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 01, 2012, 09:16:09 PM
I don't think anyone anywhere hates Kobe for being a shitty basketball player.  They hate him for being such a huge fag.

He is a great player.  He seems a self-absorbed, arrogant jerk though.

I understand he does not get paid to be "nice".  He is a very polarizing player.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 01, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
Looking like Celtics Hawks and Sixers Bulls tied 1 game a piece
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 01, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
Philly is laying it on Chicago. As a Grizz fan I have to ask, at what point of a game is a 20 point lead safe?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: SoldierSooie on May 01, 2012, 11:00:16 PM
He is a great player.  He seems a self-absorbed, arrogant jerk though.

I understand he does not get paid to be "nice".  He is a very polarizing player.

He and jordan are cut from the same cloth.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on May 02, 2012, 12:23:24 AM
He and jordan are cut from the same cloth.

Wonder who would make for a worse GM.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 02, 2012, 07:57:14 AM
Wonder who would make for a worse GM.

Kobe has experience with a hurry-up offense.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 02, 2012, 08:34:34 AM
Kobe has experience with a hurry-up offense.

Well known for his ability to cut backdoors
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 02, 2012, 12:45:15 PM
Chris Herrington ‏ @FlyerGrizBlog

Lionel hollins just said that tony allen missed practice to have his knee looked at by a doctor. No word on availability for tomorrow.


 :sick:

Heard anything else on this? Considering taking Memphis -6.5 tonight but I want to make sure Tony Allen is good to go first.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 02, 2012, 12:59:31 PM
Heard anything else on this? Considering taking Memphis -6.5 tonight but I want to make sure Tony Allen is good to go first.

twitterz is saying TA will have no limitations tonight and will be out there.

FWIW
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 02, 2012, 01:07:36 PM
Kobe has experience with a hurry-up offense.
He's been known to force it inside.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 02, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
twitterz is saying TA will have no limitations tonight and will be out there.

FWIW
Did Sarah Phillips tweet this?
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 02, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
How dumb is Amare?  Read somewhere where half his hand is cut. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 02, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
Did Sarah Phillips tweet this?

thankfully, no.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 02, 2012, 06:59:12 PM
thankfully, no.
Bizarre story that keeps getting stranger.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hog Leg on May 02, 2012, 07:47:31 PM
I don't think anyone anywhere hates Kobe for being a shitty basketball player.  They hate him for being such a huge turd rancher.

My dad is a big NBA fan. He always says that is the Lakers played the Taliban he would root for the boys from the east.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 02, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
Starting to think the grizz shit the entire series in that 4th quarter the other night  :(
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 02, 2012, 11:33:01 PM
whew.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 03, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
This is adorable.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers-grizzlies-20120503,0,2945783.story?page=2


Quote
The game did have its testy moments, like when Paul fouled Gasol and then the two exchanged shoves and words.

"I'm going to knock him out," Paul said to the Clippers' bench.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 03, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
This is adorable.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers-grizzlies-20120503,0,2945783.story?page=2

How long until a fight breaks out in this series? I'm thinking game five, there was a lot of shit talking going on between Chris Paul OJ Mayo and Tony Allen last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on May 04, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
Agree totally.  I'm a Mavericks fan though so I hate him and Durantula and Westbrook right now.  If OKC moves on, I'll be rooting for them.  I really like Durant and Harden.  Westbrook, eh, he seems like a punk.  Other than Kobe, there are almost NO players I dislike in the NBA right now.  Westbrook is very close to being on the Kobe list.  Of course, I used to hate Fisher but now that he plays for OKC, I like him again.  :)  Oh, you know, I don't like Pau Gasol either.  Again, that's probably because he's on the same team as Kobe.  I used to LOVE the Lakers but I dislike Kobe so much that even if the rest of the Lakers consisted of former Razorbacks, I'd still hate them.
 

Andrew Bynum measures highly on the spoiled brat/punk scale just like Kobe Bryant.
I can't stand Ron Artest and the Lakers tattoo guy either.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 04, 2012, 02:43:14 PM
How long until a fight breaks out in this series? I'm thinking game five, there was a lot of shit talking going on between Chris Paul OJ Mayo and Tony Allen last night.

A fight is going to break out soon.

Marreese Speights has been talking mad shit too.

Chris Paul is enough of a cry baby bitch that he'll snap on Tony or OJ at some point. I know Griffin isn't going to poke Z-Bo or Gasol.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on May 04, 2012, 02:44:45 PM
I can't stand Ron Artest...

Who?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on May 05, 2012, 02:27:17 AM
Who?

I think he means World B Free.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on May 05, 2012, 02:28:45 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/05/sport/dr-shaq/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

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(CNN) -- Shaquille O'Neal has donned many monickers during his basketball career, including Shaq Fu, the Big Aristotle, Superman and Shaqtus. This weekend, he will add "Dr. O'Neal" to that list.
 
The former NBA player will graduate from Florida's Barry University on Saturday with a doctorate degree in education focusing on organizational learning and leadership.
 
"This is for my mother, who always stressed the importance of education," O'Neal said. "I am proud to have achieved a doctoral degree and wish to thank my professors and Barry University for helping make this dream a reality. I'm smart enough to know that, even at my tender age, my pursuit of education is never finished."
 
The 7-foot-1 retired basketball star and NBA analyst is expected to be one of 1,100 students who will don graduation gowns at a ceremony in Miami, the school said.
 
"For the past four-and-half years, O'Neal pursued his doctoral degree in education while juggling the roles of athlete, student and entrepreneur," Barry University said in a statement. "He completed the requirements of the doctoral program while adhering to the grueling NBA schedule prior to his retirement last year as well as fulfilling commitments in broadcasting and business."
 
O'Neal graduates with a 3.81 grade point average and he completed 16 courses mostly using satellite classrooms and video conferencing, the university said.
 
In addition to the championships under his belt, O'Neal has a Bachelor's degree from Louisiana State University and an MBA he received in 2005.
 
He won three titles with the Los Angeles Lakers after forming a devastating partnership with Kobe Bryant, and added a fourth in 2006 with the Miami Heat.
 
With 28,596 points, O'Neal is fifth on the all-time NBA scoring list and is second only to Michael Jordan on the all-time list of NBA Finals Most Valuable Player Awards.
 
O'Neal retired last year after playing 19 NBA seasons.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 05, 2012, 08:53:52 AM
Thunder clinch tonight.

We goan have an NBA Champ right down the road, get on the bandwagon, losers.   O0
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Das Uberschwein on May 05, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/04/phil-mushnick-jay-z-nets-racist-new-york-post_n_1477927.html

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A New York sportswriter is in hot water after writing that the Brooklyn Nets should change their name to the "New York N------s" because they are co-owned by Jay-Z.

Phil Mushnick, who writes for the New York Post, has apparently been a long-time critic of the rapper's role in the franchise. In a Friday column, he trashed Jay-Z's choices for the team's new uniforms:

As long as the Nets are allowing Jay-Z to call their marketing shots -- what a shock that he chose black and white as the new team colors to stress, as the Nets explained, their new "urban" home -- why not have him apply the full Jay-Z treatment? Why the Brooklyn Nets when they can be the New York N------s? The cheerleaders could be the Brooklyn B----hes or Hoes. Team logo? A 9 mm with hollow-tip shell casings strewn beneath. Wanna be Jay-Z hip? Then go all the way!

UPDATE: Mushnick responded to the furore surrounding his column later on Friday. Writing to sports site Bob's Blitz, he said that there had been "obvious, wishful and ignorant mischaracterizations" of his words.

"Jay-Z profits from the worst and most sustaining self-enslaving stereotypes of black-American culture and I'M the racist?" he continued. "Some truths, I guess, are just hard to read, let alone think about."

Unsurprisingly, Twitter erupted over the comments.

 realstunned

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 05, 2012, 07:50:03 PM
Get in the lane on the final possession, Conley. That is all.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: LaMoHog on May 05, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
New York Naggers... What a horrible idea.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on May 06, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
New York Naggers... What a horrible idea.
 

There are a lot of Jewish moms in NYC so it would reflect their new urban home.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tim Calhoun on May 06, 2012, 04:02:43 PM
Get in the lane on the final possession, Conley. That is all.

wouldn't matter.  They do this crap in the nBA all the time and it's happening in college now too. Even if Conley had 20 seconds he would have held it until 3 or so.  Then of course NO bucket is ever going towards the goal. Its a fade away pull up jumper like Gay  :rainbow: shot and actually double pumped.  These guys get paid enough, coaches included that they should have something better than that late in a game.  It's ALWAYS the same thing.  Just cuz you tell Jordan or Kobe to take the ball and win doesn't mean Rudy Gay can do it.  Sorry guys.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogye West on May 06, 2012, 04:46:15 PM
Baron Davis' knee injury looked awful. May have torn every ligament and tendon in it. Never wanna go out that way
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 08, 2012, 10:40:35 AM
The lack of a go-to assassin is painful.  We are a good team that when we play well together can beat anyone. 

But we got no star.  Need that star in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on May 08, 2012, 01:08:40 PM
The lack of a go-to assassin is painful.  We are a good team that when we play well together can beat anyone. 

But we got no star.  Need that star in the playoffs.

Yeah it's like no one on that can just takes the game over. Gasol just wants to pass it and gay and mayo don't hit anything when it's under 30 seconds. Memphis have so many great pieces just no game changer.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 08, 2012, 10:07:25 PM
Philly has 35 points in the middle of the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: El Hogarado on May 08, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
The lack of a go-to assassin is painful.  We are a good team that when we play well together can beat anyone. 

But we got no star.  Need that star in the playoffs.

Rudy Gay could do it, but he hasn't learned how.  He's got no plan.  If the lanes not wide open, "I think I'll just take this jumper with a hand in my face." 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 09, 2012, 11:50:59 PM
Going back to Flop City for game 6.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: griffinhogsfan on May 10, 2012, 02:25:31 AM
Going back to Flop City for game 6.

Going to be a great game. It's been an awesome series. I was glad to see Blake get up after hurting the knee. Inguries really have killed this post season for alot of teams.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 10, 2012, 02:22:45 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20593638/property-seized-from-home-denver-nuggets-center-chris#ixzz1uUp9W3gY

Quote
Property seized from home of Denver Nuggets center Chris "Birdman" Andersen


Authorities have searched the Larkspur home of Denver Nuggets center Christopher Andersen in relation to an ongoing internet crimes against children investigation, the Douglas County Sheriff's Office announced this morning.

Andersen, 33, has not been arrested, though deputies seized property from his home this morning.

"The sheriff's office did contact him this morning while he was at his house and he cooperated fully," said agency spokeswoman Deborah Sherman.

Sherman said the investigation is ongoing and declined to provide details about any specific allegations against Andersen. The search warrant has been sealed.

"It could include many different things. Right now we're not saying, they literally just got the property this morning," Sherman said.

Proving who used the computer or computers in question is frequently a tricky part of Internet crime cases.Property records show at least one other person lives at the Larkspur home.

The Sheriff's Internet Crimes Against Children unit received a tip in February from a California law enforcement agency.

Andersen, known by his nickname "Birdman," participated in the Nuggets morning shootaround this morning. His manager, Mark Bryant, declined to comment.

Andersen has run into trouble before when was banned from the NBA in 2006 for violating the league's drug policy. His ensuing turnaround was heralded as a success story when he rejoined the NBA in 2008.

The Nuggets have a crucial game tonight at Pepsi Center against the Lakers in the first-round of the playoffs. Denver trails Los Angeles three games to two in this best-of-seven series. Andersen, a Nuggets bench player, has not played at all during the series.

Sports reporter Benjamin Hochman contributed to this report.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 10, 2012, 02:45:12 PM
I saw this on TV last night, he was behind one of the goals.

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 10, 2012, 03:16:23 PM
I saw Dale at a concession stand at the game last night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on May 10, 2012, 03:18:38 PM
I saw Dale at a concession stand at the game last night.

Was he on popcorn or nachos?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: TravelHog on May 10, 2012, 08:07:29 PM
I saw Dale at a concession stand at the game last night.
Was he on popcorn or nachos?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4BU4M5jGGfM/Ts5TnlHWqhI/AAAAAAAABzs/-n4_eDOWsb0/s1600/RimshotBadumtsh.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 10, 2012, 09:42:51 PM
I can't decide who sucks the life out of their team on a more regular basis. ....josh smith or Carmelo fucktard douchebag anthony
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 10, 2012, 09:45:06 PM
I think Josh Smith does.  My son, who watches a shit ton of NBA, thinks I'm way wrong. 

I feel like getting a guy like Dampier 3 years ago and trading away Smith for other large size would have put the Hawks consistently in to the East Finals.  Smith is a ball hog and a reckless, stupid player.  Teague isn't much better. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 10, 2012, 09:46:17 PM
Josh Smith is a moron.

Al Horford can wear the same crown after making the 2nd FT, after missing the first.

Doesn't matter anyway. The atmosphere of game 7 in
Atlanta would have been like that of a Pro Bowl.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 10, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
What about Joe? 17 points 1 rebound 1 assist and he gets paid how much?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 10, 2012, 10:38:40 PM
For those folks who always say the macho bullshit 'I wanna beat a team at their best' (not necessarily anyone in this thread..argument was mainly in a football thread not too long ago)...you think Philly gives a rip that the Bulls were without multiple players including the MVP from last year?

You beat who is in front of you, move on, and never make any apologies about it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 10, 2012, 10:44:06 PM
Totally agree. Every player in the league is a professional.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on May 10, 2012, 11:56:19 PM
Lakers ain't shit but ho's and tricks...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 11, 2012, 01:16:48 AM
KG says money ain't got no owners.  Only spenders.

Fuck Atlanta.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 11, 2012, 07:48:23 AM
I think Josh Smith does.  My son, who watches a shit ton of NBA, thinks I'm way wrong. 

I feel like getting a guy like Dampier 3 years ago and trading away Smith for other large size would have put the Hawks consistently in to the East Finals.  Smith is a ball hog and a reckless, stupid player.  Teague isn't much better.

If you think Dampier would contribute anything other than 6 fouls you don't know shit about Dampier.  He was net negative to the Mavs for several seasons.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 11, 2012, 10:49:07 PM
Josh smith aint got shit on randy foye  ;)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 11, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g476/cmpurdy/GIFs/boratgroupdance5is.gif)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on May 11, 2012, 11:04:34 PM
9am Sunday diver? Yes please.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 11, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
Beale will be in rare form. Wish I could be there
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 12, 2012, 12:09:27 PM
The best thing about the game last night was Van Gundy talking about the Clippers laziness and/or poor coaching, the flopping, and Blake Griffin's constant whining.

Griffin’s best flop of the night came in the second quarter when he drove the lane, had his left shoulder brushed into and then immediately snapped off a series of cartwheels, followed by a double, 360, twisting backflip that completed with on his back beyond the three-point line, writhing on the ground in faux pain.

http://www.sportspickle.com/news/12521/blake-griffin-draws-360-windmill-over-the-back-foul
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 12, 2012, 02:15:36 PM
Grizz wont lose at home, take one in LA. No way it goes 7.

Oops
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on May 12, 2012, 11:39:11 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/reggie-evans-may-gotten-technical-foul-giving-blake-055836757.html

This is why the NBA is unwatchable. Nonsensical calls by officials who have no idea what real basketball actually looks like. Why in the world was this technical assessed?!?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 13, 2012, 08:40:43 AM
Awesome Game 7 last night. I predict the same in Memphis.

Pulling for the Griz because LA is a Laker city.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: FayettenamHog on May 13, 2012, 10:21:48 AM
9am Sunday diver? Yes please.

I hope you and the rest of Memphis are hitting it hard this morning. I expect the Grindhouse to be off it's rocker today.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: HogNrock on May 13, 2012, 11:17:32 AM
I hope you and the rest of Memphis are hitting it hard this morning. I expect the Grindhouse to be off it's rocker today.

I polished off a bloody Mary during "Mother's Day Breakfast" and have already transitioned to teh Bourbon.  My liver is going to wake up crying tomorrow, but this is going to be epic.

I would love to be there, but try talking your wife into spending $500 for tickets (last I saw was $200 for lower bowl), parking, booze, etc. on Mother's Day for a Grizz game.  Instead, she will have to put up with my drunken debauchery around the house.  I'll show her...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 13, 2012, 01:07:14 PM
Pretty ugly game thus far.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 13, 2012, 01:17:30 PM
 :sarcasm:
Pretty ugly game thus far.

BalkI bartolomius makes a good point about noon tipoffs. These guys haven't played a game this early all year but suddenly for a game 7 the start at the butt crack of dawn. Makes no sense, although you think it would benefit the grizz a little
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 13, 2012, 01:19:30 PM
:sarcasm:
BalkI bartolomius makes a good point about noon tipoffs. These guys haven't played a game this early all year but suddenly for a game 7 the start at the butt crack of dawn. Makes no sense, although you think it would benefit the grizz a little
dead ringer for balki

Clips play at 1 eastern today and the lakers played at 10:45 eastern last night.

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 13, 2012, 02:02:32 PM
This feels like a Knicks vs Heat playoff game back in the 90s where they try to beat the shit out of the other team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 13, 2012, 02:10:39 PM
This feels like a Knicks vs Heat playoff game back in the 90s where they try to beat the shit out of the other team.
Van Gundy was a part of that too.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 13, 2012, 02:32:57 PM
Welp. Looks like both LA teams will live to play another day. There are some pre playoff posts from the Griz fans that are funny.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 13, 2012, 04:34:37 PM
Spectacularly shittastic performance today by the grizz. They need to see if they can get a serious scorer for gay and mayo in the offseason
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: dixiecupdrinker on May 13, 2012, 07:38:58 PM
Spectacularly shittastic performance today by the grizz. They need to see if they can get a serious scorer for gay and mayo in the offseason

Mayo is a FA, someone will give him stupid money. Gay will be back. I dont know what you can get for him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 13, 2012, 09:38:02 PM
Gay will be back. I dont know what you can get for him.
Teh AIDS?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on May 14, 2012, 10:14:58 AM
Mayo is a FA, someone will give him stupid money. Gay will be back. I dont know what you can get for from him.

Teh AIDS?

Fixt.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 14, 2012, 07:19:27 PM
Tonight Kobe begins a seminar on the upstart Thunder. As he said "they ain't at his table yet".

#pours another
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 14, 2012, 08:01:31 PM
Tonight Kobe begins a seminar on the upstart Thunder. As he said "they ain't at his table yet".

#pours another
I'm the biggest Laker fan I know.

And that ain't happening.

I know it's either love him or hate him, but what Kobe is doing with this many miles on the tires is unreal. In fact, he's doing things in his 16th season that nobody else has ever done. Remember when the wheels fell off Jordan? He didn't have the miles that Kobe has.

Mike is my favorite player of all time. The greatest ever at his peak. Not even close.

But I think Kobe has to be in the discussion for the best player the longest.if that makes sense.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 14, 2012, 08:06:01 PM
Tonight Kobe begins a seminar on the upstart Thunder. As he said "they ain't at his table yet".

#pours another

Kobe's problem is that no one on his team is that close to being at his table. I'd feel a lot better about this series if perk  was healthy
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 14, 2012, 08:33:11 PM
Kobe's problem is that no one on his team is that close to being at his table. I'd feel a lot better about this series if perk  was healthy
Should be a great series.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 14, 2012, 08:34:59 PM
Article from Chris Brussard:

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=7908439&type=story

One of the reasons Kobe Bryant wanted so badly to win his fifth championship was to surpass his sometimes teammate/sometimes nemesis, Shaquille O'Neal, owner of four rings. And one of the reasons Bryant wants so badly to win his sixth title this season is to equal Michael Jordan, his idol and all-time inspiration.

Tuesday night that goal took a beating as a lackadaisical Los Angeles Lakers team couldn't close out the Denver Nuggets, losing 102-99. Despite Bryant's 43-point effort that nearly beat the Nuggets single-handedly, the Lakers lost but they remain up 3-2 as the series heads back to Denver.

But even if Bryant leads these Lakers to the championship, he'll never be Jordan's equal.

That's no slight on Bryant; nobody is Jordan's equal.

Among the things Jordan has over Bryant (and everyone): He won six titles, was the MVP every time and never lost in the Finals. He's the all-time leader in career points per game (30.12) and led the league in scoring 10 straight times in which he played a full season. And as a 2, he dominated an era of outstanding big men without a great big man of his own.

So Bryant's legacy, relative to Jordan, is set. Even if he wins six rings, or even seven, few hard-core basketball heads would dare put him ahead of Jordan. Win or lose this season, Bryant will go down as a top-10 player of all-time, and the second best shooting guard ever, right behind Jordan and just ahead of Jerry West.

That said, Bryant will have some things over Jordan. For one, longevity, or better yet, the length of his prime. Bryant's streak of excellence is virtually unmatched. While he's only 33 years old, he's in his 16th full NBA season, including two lockout-shortened ones. Plus, he's played the equivalent of more than two and a half seasons in playoff games.

By comparison, Jordan (by his own choice, but still) played just 13 full seasons, including only 11 in his prime with the Chicago Bulls. And Bryant has played 34 more postseason games than Jordan -- and counting.

For comparison's sake, other similarly athletic players also faded long before Bryant. Dominique Wilkins played 13 full seasons (by full, I mean 50 games or more) but was far from his prime in the last two of that 13, averaging about 18 points a game, more than six points below his career average.

"The Doctor," Julius Erving, played 16 full seasons in the ABA and NBA combined, but averaged just 17 points per game over his last two seasons, about seven points below his career average. George "The Iceman" Gervin played 13 full seasons, but again, averaged only 16 points his last seaspm.

Vince Carter is in his 13th "full" season, but hasn't been near his prime for at least three seasons. Tracy McGrady had only nine seasons of 50 or more games in his prime.

So Bryant has shown legendary durability for a player of his type.

Of course, lots of big men have played 16 seasons, but how many of them have played at the superstar level that late in their careers? Not many.

It can be argued that Bryant is still in his prime. Sure, he's lost a step and a half, maybe two. He can't create space like he used to. But he is such a tremendous, tough shot-maker that he is still a top 6 or 7 player in the league. To nearly lead the NBA in scoring in his 16th season is unprecedented.


Bryant nearly took home the NBA's scoring title this season.
Heading into this season, the highest scoring average for a player in his 16th season or later was 23.4 ppg by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1985-86. The highest average for a guard that late in his career was 14.8 ppg by Reggie Miller.

This season, Bryant averaged 27.9 points. That's the sixth best scoring average of his career.

Amazing.

Even Jordan -- again by his own choice, but still -- can't match that.

But if Bryant can lead the Lakers to the championship this season, he will have something even bigger over Jordan -- and just about every other player in his top-10 class.

Unlike Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Oscar Robertson, Abdul-Jabbar, O'Neal, Wilt Chamberlain and Hakeem Olajuwon, Bryant will have led two separate dynasties.

Think about it: Jordan's six titles all came with Scottie Pippen alongside him. Johnson's five rings came with Abdul-Jabbar, and Abdul-Jabbar's other title (with Robertson) was not part of a dynasty. Bird's three rings came with Kevin McHale and Robert Parish. Chamberlain and West, though teammates for four full seasons with the Lakers, were never part of a dynasty. O'Neal's fourth ring in Miami did not come during a dynastic run, and Olajuwon won only the back-to-back titles with Houston.

Yet here is Bryant, making a strong push to complete his second dynasty. Obviously, the first came with O'Neal when the Lakers won three straight from 2000 to 2002. While O'Neal was the top player on those clubs, Bryant was 1A. The gap between him and O'Neal was much smaller than the gap between Jordan and Pippen.

If Kobe can win a ring this season that will be three titles in four seasons, and four Finals appearances in five seasons. That would qualify as a dynasty. Obviously, there would be no O'Neal in this second dynasty. Instead, there'd be Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum.

Leading two separate dynasties might not seem like a big deal, but again, hardly any other player has done it. The only one who comes close would be Tim Duncan. His first two rings came with David Robinson and his last two came with Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Of course, Parker was also a part of Duncan's second ring with Robinson. The Spurs, who might have an even better shot at winning it all this season than the Lakers, are almost like one long dynasty.

Then, of course, there's Bill Russell. With his 11 rings, we can't even include him in the discussion. He's just head and shoulders above everyone when it comes to winning titles.

But outside of Russell and Duncan, Bryant -- with his third ring in four years and his second dynasty -- would be in a class by himself, one to which even Jordan doesn't belong.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 14, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
Coke Snyder is an assistant for the lakers
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 14, 2012, 10:23:02 PM
Tonight Kobe begins a seminar on the upstart Thunder. As he said "they ain't at his table yet".

#pours another

The Thunder are the ones hosting the seminar. 30 point lead in the 3rd.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 14, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
The Thunder are the ones hosting the seminar. 30 point lead in the 3rd.

The thunder might score 100 before the end of the third.  This is a brutal attack.  The Lakers don't have anyone to stop the Westbrook/Durant combo.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 14, 2012, 10:46:17 PM
The thunder might score 100 before the end of the third.  This is a brutal attack.  The Lakers don't have anyone to stop the Westbrook/Durant combo.

After watching thegrizz game and celtics i forgot what offense looked like.

Perk re-straining that hip worries me for later on in the series
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 15, 2012, 06:03:19 AM
The Thunder are the ones hosting the seminar. 30 point lead in the 3rd.
Glad I passed out into a beer induced coma at the half
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 15, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
Pacers up nine headed to the 4th.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 15, 2012, 09:23:09 PM
Pacers by 3. Tied 1-1.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 15, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
No bosh no chance.  They cannot defend he interior as is, and without his pick and roll defense and perimeter game they are fucked.  Their role players are below average
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 15, 2012, 10:26:39 PM
When I watch the spurs play' I often ejaculate


Hoping for spurs thunder
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 16, 2012, 08:37:22 AM
When I watch the spurs play' I often ejaculate


Hoping for spurs thunder

/coolstorybro

Pacers by 3. Tied 1-1.

I'm a Lebron fan, I marvel at his physical gifts, but I cannot understand why he refuses to have the ball in his hands on the last possession. It's bizarre.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 16, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
/coolstorybro

I'm a Lebron fan, I marvel at his physical gifts, but I cannot understand why he refuses to have the ball in his hands on the last possession. It's bizarre.

To steal what Barkley, the Jet, and Shaq were talking about last night, why did Spolestra draw up a play for Wade?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 16, 2012, 09:21:50 AM
To steal what Barkley, the Jet, and Shaq were talking about last night, why did Spolestra draw up a play for Wade?

I get that the coach drew the play up for somebody else. But Lebron has been in the league for nine years now, he's a 3 time MVP, HE should be drawing up the plays--and if not, he should have a damn strong suggestion as to what the play is going to be. If he wanted to make the play, he could damn sure get the ball if he wanted it.

As much as Barkley slurps Jordan, it seems like he would know this.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on May 16, 2012, 12:01:12 PM
To steal what Barkley, the Jet, and Shaq were talking about last night, why did Spolestra draw up a play for Wade?
 

Because it's Wade's team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 16, 2012, 12:39:01 PM
To steal what Barkley, the Jet, and Shaq were talking about last night, why did Spolestra draw up a play for Wade?

You mean Mario Chalmers?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 16, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
You mean Mario Chalmers?

The play before that where Wade missed a contested layup and somehow ended up on floor without ever being touched.

Also a little confused how this wasn't a flagrant 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6irTbluEU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6irTbluEU)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 16, 2012, 03:18:24 PM
Article from Chris Brussard:

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=7908439&type=story

One of the reasons Kobe Bryant wanted so badly to win his fifth championship was to surpass his sometimes teammate/sometimes nemesis, Shaquille O'Neal, owner of four rings. And one of the reasons Bryant wants so badly to win his sixth title this season is to equal Michael Jordan, his idol and all-time inspiration.

Tuesday night that goal took a beating as a lackadaisical Los Angeles Lakers team couldn't close out the Denver Nuggets, losing 102-99. Despite Bryant's 43-point effort that nearly beat the Nuggets single-handedly, the Lakers lost but they remain up 3-2 as the series heads back to Denver.

But even if Bryant leads these Lakers to the championship, he'll never be Jordan's equal.

That's no slight on Bryant; nobody is Jordan's equal.

Among the things Jordan has over Bryant (and everyone except in titles won; 8 Celtics and Robert Horry have won more, plus 3 others tied with him): He won six titles, was the MVP every time and never lost in the Finals. He's the all-time leader in career points per game (30.12) and led the league in scoring 10 straight times in which he played a full season. And as a 2, he dominated an era of outstanding big men without a great big man of his own.

etc etc

fixt
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 16, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
Curious if this will look cool or just plain dumb tonight.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546310_10150818877483995_159957123994_9704730_907924413_n.jpg)

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hognarok on May 16, 2012, 04:07:58 PM
Curious if this will look cool or just plain dumb tonight.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546310_10150818877483995_159957123994_9704730_907924413_n.jpg)

I don't get it?  What does TEAM IS OKLAHOMA even mean?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on May 16, 2012, 06:55:35 PM
The play before that where Wade missed a contested layup and somehow ended up on floor without ever being touched.


He wasn't knocked to the ground, he went around his man and leaned into the shot losing his balance.  And being touched shooting the ball isn't necessarily a foul.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 16, 2012, 09:36:42 PM
 

Because it's Wade's team.
Lebron James apologists do not seem to be able to grasp this fact.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 16, 2012, 09:59:56 PM
The play before that where Wade missed a contested layup and somehow ended up on floor without ever being touched.

Also a little confused how this wasn't a flagrant 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6irTbluEU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6irTbluEU)

I don't know what the hell happened to wade, I used to really like that guy. These days he seems kinda like a punkazzbitch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 16, 2012, 10:47:56 PM
I do not feel good about this game.

Also haven't figured out the t-shirts. The first round t's made no sense either.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: PorkRyan on May 16, 2012, 11:18:08 PM
Nice collapse
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ahole on May 17, 2012, 03:21:49 PM
LA just gave that game away. James Harden appears to be able to blow by anyone when he is isolated that the top of they key. Gasol disappeared. Bynum's shots stopped falling. Kobe was making everything at the beginning of the 4th and nothing at the end. But his bad pass and the pass he couldn't catch just killed them. Throw in a couple clutch shots by Durant and that's how you blow a 7 point lead with 2 minutes left.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 17, 2012, 06:50:08 PM
Gasol disappeared. Bynum's shots stopped falling.

So it was a normal Lakers game in that regard?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 17, 2012, 07:50:08 PM
I don't get it?  What does TEAM IS OKLAHOMA even mean?

The meek people of mobile-homa seem to have a feeling of pride in their homestate. This pride can foster a sense of community or "TEAM", if you will.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 17, 2012, 08:29:09 PM
So it was a normal Lakers game in that regard?
Bynum for Howard and gasol for scola and lowrie. That would be a successful off season
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 17, 2012, 08:32:32 PM
Heat gettin they ass beat.

Dwyane Wade with an awesome +/- of -25 on the night.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on May 17, 2012, 09:08:22 PM
Wade and King James were both shamed off the court tonight. Its near unfathomable how a team with that much talent can lose like that. Can not be fathomed. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on May 17, 2012, 09:32:16 PM
i hope james never wins a title. fuck him. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 17, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
I used to really like Wade, but now, I can't stand anyone on that team.  So much talent but they aren't a team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on May 17, 2012, 11:45:06 PM
I don't know what the hell happened to wade, I used to really like that guy. These days he seems kinda like a punkazzbitch.

I used to really like Wade, but now, I can't stand anyone on that team.  So much talent but they aren't a team.

I'm the same way. Wade was one of my favotires a few years ago. Now he just seems like a big bitch on the court. That self entitled bullshit where he whines and takes cheap shots all game long.

That 3 man wrestling type stage entrance they pulled when they all became members of the Heat made it easy to hate the whole fucking team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 17, 2012, 11:46:01 PM
i hope james never wins a title. fuck him.
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 18, 2012, 12:27:08 AM
Couldn't agree more.

not six. not seven. 

Grin, grab, shuckle, choke, and fall apart like a gaggle of ten-a-penny fuckwits.  Billion dollar bodies and .02 minds.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 18, 2012, 08:25:46 AM
A couple of enthusiastic Spurs fans out there...

(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/D.mD1NRCstewGPhwjOaJeQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/MB51612.jpg)

Yes, that's Matt Bonner. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/shaving-picture-matt-bonner-head-could-net-young-013230150.html#more-21327 . Never really thought about it, but if you're a ginger I guess your options of having another man's face shaved into your hair gets narrowed down pretty fast.

(http://2daysports.com/img/articles/images/fan-tony-parker-haircut.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 18, 2012, 09:18:14 AM
I used to really like Wade, but now, I can't stand anyone on that team.  So much talent but they aren't a team.

Fuck Wade.  He and Ray Allen were bitching that they should be payed for playing on the Olympics team. Yea Wade, you aren't overpaid as it is and representing your country definitely isn't an honor in itself. Him and Ray Allen can both choke on a bag of dicks.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on May 18, 2012, 11:47:49 AM
I haven't a lot of the playoffs but I've seen a few plays here and there...really enjoying the Thunder play ball. It's hard not to like watching the Celtics/Spurs...those guys are old by basketball standards and are still getting it done when it matters.

It was sad seeing the Hawks self-destruct the same way they always do, Joe Johnson should have bailed on that franchise and went to a true contender instead of taking the awful 100 million dollar contract.  :stache:


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 18, 2012, 12:53:42 PM
I haven't a lot of the playoffs but I've seen a few plays here and there...really enjoying the Thunder play ball. It's hard not to like watching the Celtics/Spurs...those guys are old by basketball standards and are still getting it done when it matters.

It was sad seeing the Hawks self-destruct the same way they always do, Joe Johnson should have bailed on that franchise and went to a true contender instead of taking the awful 100 million dollar contract.  :stache:
Yeah, uhh, joe wasn't going to any contender. The reason they are "contenders" is because they don't sign a complimentary player to outrageous contracts which Joe was hell bent on getting
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on May 18, 2012, 01:31:13 PM
Granger made Bron Bron wear a dress last night. Bron Bron has to pee sitting down when he's in Granger's world, son.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogye West on May 18, 2012, 06:49:11 PM
Has there been any single sports team that is/has been universally hated as much as the Miami Heat? Poll on ESPN asked who are you rooting for Heat or Pacers. 49 states (besides Florida at a narrow margin of 51-49) rooted for the Pacers by a long shot

edit: Florida is now pro Pacers by a slim margin. So now ALL 50 states are rooting against the Heat
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hackfuck McDouche on May 18, 2012, 06:54:04 PM
Has there been any single sports team that is/has been universally hated as much as the Miami Heat?

You didn't specify between amateur/pro, so I'm going with the 1936 German Olympic team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: KCHOGS on May 18, 2012, 08:52:56 PM
Has there been any single sports team that is/has been universally hated as much as the Miami Heat?

You didn't specify between amateur/pro, so I'm going with the 1936 German Olympic team.

The (insert year here) Yankees are more hated than the 1936 Germans.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on May 18, 2012, 09:19:30 PM
The Clu Haywood Yankees are more hated than the 1936 Germans.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on May 18, 2012, 10:41:49 PM
Yeah, Westbrook, go get you a piece of Ron Ron.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 18, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
The league must not want the lakers to get swept.  SOme pretty questionable calls lately.

I'm not sure Harden has committed even 1 foul and he has 3 called.  THe last after an obvious walk by Kobe.  Joe Crawford is a shame to the NBA.

Yep, Crawford needs to get run over by a car.  He is the worst ref in the game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on May 18, 2012, 11:14:30 PM
Anytime you see Joey Crawford refereeing a playoff game you know the fix is in.

What just happened when Ron Artest dropped the knee on Westbrook? 
Would that not be an automatic disqualification from the game and in Artest's case another multiple game suspension?

Jeff Van Gundy was all over it saying "World Peace just kneed Westbrook" then they went to a commercial break and he came back saying that Artest was tripped or lost his balance or some BS like that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 18, 2012, 11:39:49 PM
I'm starting to agree that hte fix is in.  Crawford ran from the backside of the play to call a mystery foul on Fisher to give 2 points to the Lakers.  There is no way to explain some of the calls from Crawford through the years except for the fix.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: intercept on May 19, 2012, 12:38:05 AM
42 to 28 on free throws... fix was in. Harden got hosed all game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 19, 2012, 12:47:37 AM
Yep, there really should be an investigation into fixing in the Lakers favor in the playoffs with Crawford.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 19, 2012, 08:28:36 AM
The league must not want the lakers to get swept.  SOme pretty questionable calls lately.

I'm not sure Harden has committed even 1 foul and he has 3 called.  THe last after an obvious walk by Kobe.  Joe Crawford is a shame to the NBA.

Yep, Crawford needs to get run over by a car.  He is the SECOND worst ref in the game.

Violet Palmer is the champ.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on May 19, 2012, 09:38:58 AM
Why in the hell is the NBA making the Lakes and Clippers play back to back games this weekend?

There's nothing scheduled this week in the Staples Center except for a women's basketball game on Tuesday.
Both the LA series have 2 or 3 day gaps between games this week.
Boston and Atlanta don't even have a game Sat or Sun
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 19, 2012, 10:20:29 AM
That Rondo one hand behind the back dribble pass last night was eye popping.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 19, 2012, 11:37:29 AM
Why in the hell is the NBA making the Lakes and Clippers play back to back games this weekend?

There's nothing scheduled this week in the Staples Center except for a women's basketball game on Tuesday.
Both the LA series have 2 or 3 day gaps between games this week.
Boston and Atlanta don't even have a game Sat or Sun
atlanta doesnt have a game for a few months
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on May 19, 2012, 02:28:34 PM
atlanta doesnt have a game for a few months

They are contenders for the MTV jams celebrity game though.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 19, 2012, 03:17:29 PM
The (insert year here) Yankees are more hated than the 1936 Germans.

At least the Germans had an ethos.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: eastcoasthogfan on May 19, 2012, 04:30:55 PM
Why in the Starkville is the NBA making the Lakes and Clippers play back to back games this weekend?

There's nothing scheduled this week in the Staples Center except for a women's basketball game on Tuesday.
Both the LA series have 2 or 3 day gaps between games this week.
Boston and Atlanta don't even have a game Sat or Sun

The Kings have another game at the Staples Center before going back to Phoenix. Unless they win Game 4.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 19, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
Right now, the Spurs are showing how to weather an early storm, chip away, and then quietly dominate.  Will see if the clips can come back.

Wow, bringing out the hack-a-Evans.  Interesting strategy that seems to have worked.  Sure quenched some of the possible momentum the Clips might have had.

Wow, the spurs are 28-2 in their last 30.  That is pretty fucking salty.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on May 19, 2012, 05:08:34 PM
If OKC can go ahead and get by the Lakers, the next round vs the Spurs could be an epic series.

Should be some great, high level basketball.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 19, 2012, 11:06:26 PM
Not so fast my frien.  After that game last night, I'm thinking they want a Lakers/Spurs matchup.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 20, 2012, 12:04:31 AM
Durantula.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 20, 2012, 12:39:29 AM
Durantula.

Durant is the best closer in the game. Westbrook was great tonight, he gets that 12-15 foot jumper whenever he wants it. I can't wait for Thunder-Spurs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on May 20, 2012, 01:21:23 AM
Durant is stone cold assassin. Step aside Kobe and let the next generation do work.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 20, 2012, 06:50:18 AM
Durant is stone cold assassin.  Retire Step aside Kobe and let the next generation do work.  Go back to your out of wedlock blonde-dicking.

From J.A. Adande's article:

You can't ask a guy to do more to deliver a playoff victory than Durant did down the stretch in the Thunder's 103-100 Game 4 victory that gave them a 3-1 lead in the series against the Lakers. He guarded Kobe Bryant while Bryant was in the process of missing eight of nine fourth-quarter shots (that doesn't count the meaningless last-second shot that went in). For the game, Bryant shot 0-for-4 with Durant guarding him.



Bryant zinged Gasol on Saturday night for his lack of aggressiveness (no shots, no rebounds in the fourth quarter), and felt no need to apologize for the way the offense stalled and the Lakers' 13-point lead evaporated after he returned in the fourth quarter with the Lakers while he was left to launch high-arching shots over Durant late in the shot clock.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 20, 2012, 07:28:15 AM
This lakers series can't end soon enough
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 20, 2012, 10:06:40 AM
This lakers series can't end soon enough

I'm so sick and tired of the NBA and their dumbassery in playoff game scheduling. I understand that its all about TV but it makes absolutely no sense for the Heat Pacers series taking a two day break between games 3-4 while the Lakers Thunder series plays back to back games 3-4. And 9 pm central time game time starts suck for old fuckers like myself. I fell asleep toward the end of the 3rd quarter and missed Durant's clinic on 4th quarter clutch play!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 20, 2012, 10:18:14 AM
I agree with you, but I've long since accepted that the NBA does not put old frickers like you and I in to any of their equations. 

They have to have the youngest, hardcore demographic of fans that you can imagine. 


It is so weird to watch how older people who previously only paid passing attention to MLB become full bore fans at much later points in their lives.  I guess becoming an MLB fan is like purchasing your first Lincoln automobile. NBA fans are all still learning to drive. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 20, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
Come on, really?? Spurs Clippers tipoff at 9:30 PM CDT on a freaking Sunday night?? I guess the West coast time zone is all the TV people care about. I have a flight at 6 am. I'd love to stay up and watch the Clippers get eliminated but TNT doesn't give a shit about me. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 20, 2012, 10:41:09 PM
Come on, really?? Spurs Clippers tipoff at 9:30 PM CDT on a freaking Sunday night?? I guess the West coast time zone is all the TV people care about. I have a flight at 6 am. I'd love to stay up and watch the Clippers get eliminated but TNT doesn't give a shit about me.

They played a hockey game in the Staples Center earlier today. I'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with the  late start.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 21, 2012, 12:49:32 AM
18 straight, 29 of the last 31.  That is one of the more impressive streaks going into the playoffs and in the playoffs in a while.  If they do go on to win the title, which I'm not sure they will, they will probably be remembered as one of the best of the Spurs Champions and best champion in a while.

They haven't lost since they lost back-to-back games to the Jazz and Lakers.  In the Jazz loss, they sat Duncan, Genowhatever and Parker.  Resting those dudes during the season might have made for a few more losses, but probably paid off big-time now.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 21, 2012, 05:40:55 AM
They played a hockey game in the Staples Center earlier today. I'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with the  late start.

Didn't even think about that. So maybe the NBA scheduling people DON'T hate me.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 21, 2012, 09:55:27 PM
Fuck it, technicals for everyone.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 22, 2012, 03:10:02 AM
Fuck it, technicals for everyone.

MWP probably didn't deserve a flagrant for that, but with his track record, it comes with the territory. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on May 22, 2012, 06:37:17 AM
Celts go up 3-2. 

Both teams are so beat up, short handed and injured I dont think the winner of this series can get to the finals.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 22, 2012, 08:31:26 AM
MWP probably didn't deserve a flagrant for that, but with his track record, it comes with the territory.

Agree.  Too bad Indiana Ron has so much of a gloried past.  SimUlar to James Harrison in the NFL.  He even LOOKS at a QB's head and he gets fined for an illegal hit. 

Glad to see the Lakers gone.  Yippee!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 22, 2012, 08:36:50 AM
Time to take the wrecking ball to the Lakers roster. Lowry and Scola for Gasol please.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 22, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
I keep reading these articles that try to make it sound like this series was some passing of the torch, except the Thunder have to beat the Spurs for that to really happen. Since 1999 the Spurs, Lakers, and Mavericks are the only franchises to represent the Western Conference in the finals. Coincidentally, the Thunder will have to beat all 3 of those teams in the playoffs to break that trend.

I think the Spurs are better, but I can always hope...





Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on May 22, 2012, 09:48:16 AM

A couple things I'm learning in these playoffs are that systems trump new hotness most of the time. The Celtics and Spurs both have guys that are just good basketball players that play their roles and stay within the system. This doesn't mean one of these two clubs are going to win it all this year...I think everyone is expecting them to fall victim to father time at some point soon. I'm actually pulling for both...both teams are fun to watch (not that the Thunder isn't fun to watch). It can be said if the Clippers were healthy they would have put up more of a fight. Certainly the Bulls would at least still in the hunt if not in the drivers seat if healthy but you can't control that shit. The teams that are still here for the most part are the old guys that know how to take care of their bodies and know how to get ready for big games. There is something to be said for all that...

Not sure how unusual this is but the Lakers have about 7 guys on their roster that were 2nd round picks. Most of which are young unestablished players. I hate to break it to the Lakers front office but you aren't going to win like that. I don't necessarily think the answer is to exchange starters like Ron Artest and Paul Gasol for other ho-hum starters but clearly they lack a core of #winning. Gasol was considered a highly talented worm of a man when the Lakers traded for him and he had a few decent years since then but now he's back to his true colors only now he's older and starting to fade. I'm convinced Ron Artest should go, whenever someone picks a new name for themselves it says alot about who they are...in Ron's case I think he's lying to himself. The name change alone should be an offense worthy of voiding his contract. Some of these 2nd round guys may pan out...the odds are most won't. They need to find a system and then they need to start making good player moves like building through the draft. I've been looking at their roster for the last 15 minutes and still haven't found their starting point guard...I guess it's supposed to be Sessions. Who are the high energy guys on that roster that are going to run up and down the court with the Thunder? They don't have anybody and that is why they lost.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 22, 2012, 11:09:29 AM
Does anyone remember when David Stern hosed the Lakers? Gasol and Odom were supposed to be Chris Paul  :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 22, 2012, 11:27:23 AM
Does anyone remember when David Stern hosed the Lakers? Gasol and Odom were supposed to be Chris Paul  :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:

Not a Lakers fan...but...yeah.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: intercept on May 22, 2012, 05:43:02 PM
Does anyone remember when David Stern hosed the Lakers? Gasol and Odom were supposed to be Chris Paul  :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:

Good... couldn't happen to a more deserving team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Splurge on May 22, 2012, 05:52:57 PM
Time to take the wrecking ball to the Lakers roster. Lowry and Scola for Gasol please.

Will never happen.

Maybe trade him to the Grizz for Conley and Randolph to reunite the brothers, but I doubt Memphis goes for it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 22, 2012, 06:18:19 PM
Will never happen.

Maybe trade him to the Grizz for Conley and Randolph to reunite the brothers, but I doubt Memphis goes for it.
Rumor today was Gasol to Philly for Andre Igoudala.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Splurge on May 22, 2012, 08:13:22 PM
Rumor today was Gasol to Philly for Andre Igoudala.

Tasty, but the Show needs a true point, not 2 shooting guards.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 22, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
After being left for dead after Game 3, the Heat have sure rebounded.  Just thoroughly beat the crap out of the Pacers tonight.  Agree with the crew that Haslem will probably get suspended. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on May 22, 2012, 10:05:36 PM
It's really impressive what the Heat are doing without Bosh. Once he's back in the lineup, I'd expect them to coast to the title.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 22, 2012, 10:37:26 PM
It's really impressive what the Heat are doing without Bosh. Once he's back in the lineup, I'd expect them to coast to the title.

The Spurs are the team to beat right now. They are the best basketball TEAM. Just like Dallas was last year. The Spurs go ten deep with arguably the best point guard in the game right now plus they have won 18 fucking games in a row. I think by the time game 3 of the finals rolls around IF Miami makes it Lebron will be dog tired from carrying this team on his back.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 23, 2012, 01:16:44 AM
It's really impressive what the Heat are doing without Bosh. Once he's back in the lineup, I'd expect them to coast to the title.
The champ will come from the west.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 23, 2012, 08:12:29 AM
The champ will come from the west.

Yep.

The two best teams in the league are OKC and SA, and I don't see anyone in the East beating them 4 times in 7 games. 

Best-case scenario, I hope the Thunder beat Miami for the title.  They would have beaten the last two champions, the last two teams to put them out of the playoffs, every western conference team with an NBA Finals since 99, and a team with 2 of the top 5 players in the game, if they do so.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 23, 2012, 09:02:27 AM
and a team with 2 of the top 5 players in the game

Does everyone think it's a lock for Miami to make the finals? It's very possible we get a Spurs/OKC vs Boston match up in the finals.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 23, 2012, 09:08:14 AM
Does everyone think it's a lock for Miami to make the finals? It's very possible we get a Spurs/OKC vs Boston match up in the finals.
I will be pulling for Boston, or anyone that's playing the Heat.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 23, 2012, 09:10:29 AM
Does everyone think it's a lock for Miami to make the finals?

No.  The Celtics are more likely, imho.

The last post was best-case scenario, as a Thunder fan.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on May 23, 2012, 09:15:52 AM
Does everyone think it's a lock for Miami to make the finals? It's very possible we get a Spurs/OKC vs Boston match up in the finals.

Miami is turning the corner, I think much depends on how much Boston has in the tank but they are a better team overall that the Heat. Everyone assumes Bosh will get healthy, if he doesn't I don't see the Heat getting past the Celtics. I also don't see either team from the East beating the much deeper teams from the West in the finals.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hardpork on May 23, 2012, 11:00:45 PM
No way in hell David Stern lets Indiana or Philly make it to the Finals.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 24, 2012, 03:08:35 PM
I hope the spurs ass rape the thunder.  Love Durant and harden hate Westbrook. 

The spurs are the tits offensively right now.  They are as good a team as I have seen offensively in a long time
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: El Hogarado on May 24, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Parsed crazy stat from the internet: Spurs record in the last 47 games with Tony Parker in the lineup (i.e. when they didn't rest him): 43-4.

So it took the Spurs 47 games to lose 4 games; don't see them losing 4 more in the next 7, even playing OKC.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 24, 2012, 03:45:11 PM
No.  The Celtics are more likely, imho.

The last post was best-case scenario, as a Thunder fan.

The C's are so beat up, they may not make it past Philly at this point.  They'll have a huge advantage down low against Miami, but LBJ always plays great against Boston, and if Bradley can't get back playing, they won't have anyone that can slow Wade down.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 24, 2012, 03:45:16 PM
Parsed crazy stat from the internet: Spurs record in the last 47 games with Tony Parker in the lineup (i.e. when they didn't rest him): 43-4.

So it took the Spurs 47 games to lose 4 games; don't see them losing 4 more in the next 7, even playing OKC.

that just means they're due for a slump. :D

I'm hoping Stern will just cancel the NBA Finals. I was ready to jump on the Celtics bandwagon of beating the Heat, except they're going 7 games against the Sixers. I know the Heat have one key player injured and another key player who's injured when he has a had bad game, but I still didn't expect them to struggle against a less talented version of the Denver Nuggets.

Unlike whoever comes out of the East, when OKC loses to the Spurs it'll at least be entertaining.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 24, 2012, 09:44:36 PM
No way in hell David Stern D. Wade lets Indiana or Philly make it to the Finals.
41 tonight.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 26, 2012, 09:43:38 PM
rondo all up in your shit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 26, 2012, 09:47:29 PM
rondo all up in your shit.

9 playoff triple doubles. It's crazy how he can look like a superstar one night and the next game he looks like he shouldn't even be starting.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Cowboy Tiger on May 26, 2012, 10:09:38 PM
9 playoff triple doubles. It's crazy how he can look like a superstar one night and the next game he looks like he shouldn't even be starting.

that is crazy.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 27, 2012, 10:06:43 PM
Spurs put a clinic on in the 4th quarter
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 27, 2012, 10:06:51 PM
SO I am trying to figure out was Westbrook or ginobli the spurs player of the game?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on May 27, 2012, 10:07:53 PM
both.  co-players of the game
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 27, 2012, 10:16:18 PM
both.  co-players of the game

I was really impressed with thunder's intensity on defense in first half.  And the it was gone.  If they would committ like that for a game they would be unbeatable.  Two problems with that: one, they rely too much on one on one offense and two I think the energy was purely created on the adrenaline. 


An I fuxkin love it.


Good win for spurs
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 27, 2012, 10:16:24 PM
Glad I didn't go spurs -5.5 like was going too. Id have a hit out in James harden right now
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 27, 2012, 10:28:09 PM
Their strategy should have been James Harden shoot from half court the entire fourth qtr.  The dude could not miss at the end.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 28, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
Their strategy should have been James Harden shoot from half court the entire fourth qtr.  The dude could not miss at the end.

And he gave OKC a ridiculous backdoor cover on that meaningless three at the end to beat the 5.5 point spread. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 28, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
I was really impressed with thunder's intensity on defense in first half.  And the it was gone.  If they would committ like that for a game they would be unbeatable.  Two problems with that: one, they rely too much on one on one offense and two I think the energy was purely created on the adrenaline. 


An I fuxkin love it.


Good win for spurs

Even as young and as athletic as the Thunder are I don't know if it's possible to sustain that level for a 48 minutes.

Westbrook's shooting % will continually be down in this series because this is the first time he's had to guard someone during the playoffs and it just happens to be the best pg in the game right now. It's just not possible to exert that much energy on defense and it not affect your offense. Harden is know for being crafty and getting to the rim, but it's pretty obvious that the Spurs are going to make him a jump shooter. Unlike the other 28 teams, it also helps that the Spurs have been guarding a mirror image of Harden in practice for the last 10 years. For those two reasons, Durant needs to shoot the ball more.


And because I don't want to douche up the other thread.

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on May 29, 2012, 12:15:32 AM
The Miami-Boston game tonight was a prime example of everything that is wrong with the NBA, in my opinion. Dwyane Wade flopping like a European soccer player to get fouls (or at least initiating the contact by jumping into people), LeBron running over people to get to the basket and not getting called for fouls, Boston getting at least 3 of the most inexplicable technicals I've ever seen, the protecting of the home team at all cost by the officials - this isn't even remotely the same sport it was even 15 years ago. If I didn't have a particular rooting interest in the Thunder, I wouldn't watch the playoffs at all. As it is, I'll need heavy doses of antacid to be able to watch games until they get so ridiculous as to be unwatchable, as that one did tonight in the 2nd quarter when Doc Rivers got called for a technical. Just pathetic.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 29, 2012, 08:04:58 AM
The Miami-Boston game tonight was a prime example of everything that is wrong with the NBA, in my opinion. Dwyane Wade flopping like a European soccer player to get fouls (or at least initiating the contact by jumping into people), LeBron running over people to get to the basket and not getting called for fouls, Boston getting at least 3 of the most inexplicable technicals I've ever seen, the protecting of the home team at all cost by the officials - this isn't even remotely the same sport it was even 15 years ago.

Did you ever watch basketball 15 years ago?  Flopping and favoritism by the refs is hardly new in the NBA.  They're two hallmarks of the Stern era.

Michael Jordan got more calls in the course of a game than most teams that have ever existed.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 29, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
The ref who called the technical on Doc Rivers should be benched for the series. That was some mongoloid type shit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 29, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
Did you ever watch basketball 15 years ago?  Flopping and favoritism by the refs is hardly new in the NBA.  They're two hallmarks of the Stern era.

Michael Jordan got more calls in the course of a game than most teams that have ever existed.

Exactly.  Have to protect the brand.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 29, 2012, 02:04:33 PM
Did you ever watch basketball 15 years ago?  Flopping and favoritism by the refs is hardly new in the NBA.  They're two hallmarks of the Stern era.

Michael Jordan got more calls in the course of a game than most teams that have ever existed.

This (not raping hostesses) was the torch Michael passed on to Kobe. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 29, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
First and third quarters doomed the C's last night.  The techs hurt, and Miami was getting home cooking, but the wheels came off more than anything.  Celtics need to hit free throws, and not let the game get away from them in the 2nd half if they're going to compete.

Please God, let Ray Allen retire after this year.  Dude was running on fumes 3 years ago.  Now he's missing free throws, hobbling around like Peter Dinklage trying to guard Wade, and misses every timely shot he gets in the offense.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on May 29, 2012, 03:31:21 PM


Michael Jordan got more calls in the course of a game than most teams that have ever existed.
Jordan had a halo rule. If you got too close to him, you got whistled.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 29, 2012, 04:04:17 PM
Rondo says: nothing dirty but they have to hit the deck, too (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7984591/2012-nba-playoffs-lebron-james-dwyane-wade-deflect-rajon-rondo-hit-deck-comments)

I hope if the Celtics don't pull it out that they make damn sure the Heat are too beat up to win the title.

OKC vs. Miami is the sexy finals match up, but watching Popp and Duncan make LeBron cry again would be more than worth it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 29, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
So no one misinterprets, let me begin by saying that OKC's shooting and D, and SA's execution and penetration, are the big problems for the Thunder so far...

That said, are they going to call a foul on the Spurs in the paint in this series?  The word must be out, because they have hacked every Thunder player to hit the paint since this series began, and I don't think they've been called for it more than once.  Just blatant, blatant shit.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 29, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
So no one misinterprets, let me begin by saying that OKC's shooting and D, and SA's execution and penetration, are the big problems for the Thunder so far...

That said, are they going to call a foul on the Spurs in the paint in this series?  The word must be out, because they have hacked every Thunder player to hit the paint since this series began, and I don't think they've been called for it more than once.  Just blatant, blatant shit.

Ok, they're calling every third one now. 

My jinx ability remains as spectacular as ever.  This game is over.  SA is too fucking smoove. 

I do hope the first 1 1/2 games of this series get the lesson across that you cannot be fucking around with the Spurs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 29, 2012, 09:32:45 PM
Man the Spurs can move that ball around so well. 

The Thunder are also getting beat off the dribble so much and then not helping on D inside.

To say Parker is in a Zone would be an understatement.  He seems unguardable.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on May 29, 2012, 09:41:51 PM
Spurs are nasty. They might go 16-0
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 29, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
watch for the comeback in teh 4th.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on May 29, 2012, 10:05:52 PM
Did you ever watch basketball 15 years ago?  Flopping and favoritism by the refs is hardly new in the NBA.  They're two hallmarks of the Stern era.

Michael Jordan got more calls in the course of a game than most teams that have ever existed.

True, Jordan was the one that really started it. More what I was referring to as "real" basketball was Celtics-Lakers back in the 80's. I was glued to the TV every time Boston played. Now, these guys are really talented, but there is so little flow to the game that it's hard for me to get into.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on May 29, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
Why is it that I want someone to just punch the living shit out of Ginobli?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on May 29, 2012, 10:45:12 PM
Ginobli's bald spot shines brightly from afar, almost like a little sun. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on May 29, 2012, 10:52:22 PM
Why is it that I want someone to just punch the living shit out of Ginobli?

you aren't the only one- i want to kick him so hard in the junk that his grandkids' balls hurt
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 29, 2012, 11:05:04 PM
you aren't the only one- i want to kick him so hard in the junk that his grandkids' balls hurt

Why?  He's a phenom player who does everything the right way. 

Westbrook is a douche

Scott brooks is a tard.  Why did it take so long to figure out Ibaka is much better than bitch ass perkins
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on May 29, 2012, 11:47:29 PM
Why?  He's a phenom player who does everything the right way. 

Westbrook is a douche

Scott brooks is a tard.  Why did it take so long to figure out Ibaka is much better than bitch ass perkins

except that he flops worse than the italian national team
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 30, 2012, 07:32:59 AM
Why?  He's a phenom player who does everything the right way. 

I don't consider "Lower your shoulder and run into the first person you see on offense, slap their arms on defense and act like it's a genocide of puppies any time a referee dares to call a foul on you" to be the right way, but whatever.

He's a whiny piece of Eurotrash, like most of that team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 30, 2012, 11:35:04 AM
I don't consider "Lower your shoulder and run into the first person you see on offense, slap their arms on defense and act like it's a genocide of puppies any time a referee dares to call a foul on you" to be the right way, but whatever.

He's a whiny piece of Eurotrash, like most of that team.

But that "team" has won 4 titles and been more successful than any other Euro players, except maybe Dirk.  Legler had a good point this morning - the fact that none of the big 3 were born in the US, and the one who did play here had 4 years in college, is what makes this team a team.  They're good b/c they're good players.  But they're great b/c they want to PASS the ball and don't care who takes the shot on any single possession.  It just shows how good teams can be if they have several potential stars who don't really care about the amount of points they score.  And that is what is right about this team and what is generally wrong with basketball nowadays.

Look at Noah - the Bulls were belittled for taking him so high, yet he makes their team a LOT better.  He embodies what is right about basketball right now.

I also think Anthony Davis will be a steal for anyone in this draft.  Sure, he'll go #1, but not b/c he can score 20 points a game like most #1's.  He actually was a great player this year even when he didn't take many shots.  The only caveat in being a team player is that it normally takes ALL other players being a team player for you to excel.  That's why Kawai Leonard is a great player for the Spurs, but would sit the bench for 27 of the other teams in the NBA.


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 30, 2012, 11:56:27 AM


Scott brooks is a tard.  Why did it take so long to figure out Ibaka is much better than bitch ass perkins

Every time Timmay comes up to set the high pick for Parker and Perkins has to try and switch to stop the penetration he cannot do it.  Perkins feet are cinder blocks.  Parker is eating him up in that situation.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 30, 2012, 12:22:54 PM
But that "team" has won 4 titles and been more successful than any other Euro players, except maybe Dirk.  Legler had a good point this morning - the fact that none of the big 3 were born in the US, and the one who did play here had 4 years in college, is what makes this team a team.  They're good b/c they're good players.  But they're great b/c they want to PASS the ball and don't care who takes the shot on any single possession.  It just shows how good teams can be if they have several potential stars who don't really care about the amount of points they score.  And that is what is right about this team and what is generally wrong with basketball nowadays.

Look at Noah - the Bulls were belittled for taking him so high, yet he makes their team a LOT better.  He embodies what is right about basketball right now.

I also think Anthony Davis will be a steal for anyone in this draft.  Sure, he'll go #1, but not b/c he can score 20 points a game like most #1's.  He actually was a great player this year even when he didn't take many shots.  The only caveat in being a team player is that it normally takes ALL other players being a team player for you to excel.  That's why Kawai Leonard is a great player for the Spurs, but would sit the bench for 27 of the other teams in the NBA.

Don't think I'm downplaying what the Spurs are/do.  I've always been a big Tim Duncan fan, and Pop is genus. 

I just think most of them are probably douches off the court, and I can't stand the way every foul on them is a grave injustice.  Sure, Perkins and Westbrook (and half the league) do the same thing, but it's the whole damned team with the Spurs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 30, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
Don't think I'm downplaying what the Spurs are/do.  I've always been a big Tim Duncan fan, and Pop is genus. 

I just think most of them are probably douches off the court, and I can't stand the way every foul on them is a grave injustice.  Sure, Perkins and Westbrook (and half the league) do the same thing, but it's the whole damned team with the Spurs.

The same could be said for Wade and the Heat.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 30, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
The same could be said for Wade and the Heat.
Has Wade ever drove the lane and NOT hit the deck even if there's no contact at all?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 30, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
Don't think I'm downplaying what the Spurs are/do.  I've always been a big Tim Duncan fan, and Pop is genus. 

I just think most of them are probably douches off the court, and I can't stand the way every foul on them is a grave injustice.  Sure, Perkins and Westbrook (and half the league) do the same thing, but it's the whole damned team with the Spurs.

If half the league does it, statistical analysis will show that 1 of 32 teams is bound to have a whole team's worth of guys that do it.  The Spurs were just smart enough to sign 13 that get fouled.

STATphace
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 30, 2012, 09:52:56 PM
So ginobili sucks?  He's not a good passer, shooter, finisher?  Tell me which fucking nba player doesn't push off and or flop? 


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 30, 2012, 10:26:05 PM
Stan may say that the stat that Lebron is 2-12 in the final 24 seconds of a game is meaningless, but he just missed a layup and an open jumper at the end of this one to win it.  2-14 now.

This just in:

Ray Allen can still hit an open three from time to time.

If Lebron gets near someone, it is a foul (on the other person).  22 fucking FT's?

That, my friends, is exactly why everyone knows the league wants the Heat to win.  How the fuck can you NOT call that foul on the Rondo drive?  Seriously, anyone with an eye, even one, could see that foul.  Fucking bullshit and further makes me believe the whole fucking thing is rigged.

And...there goes Wade, leading with the leg to get a foul called on Boston.  Awesome.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on May 30, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
The association is a joke come playoff time.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on May 30, 2012, 10:52:44 PM
Boston with 15 more fouls.  Heat shoot almost 20 more FT's.  Hell, Lebron shot almost as many as Boston by himself.  This shit is rigged I hate to say, or at least it is so bad at protecting the 'superstars' that it isn't basketball anymore.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogye West on May 30, 2012, 10:56:58 PM
Fuck the Heat. As a big Celtics fan it enrages me even more after seeing the fuck job we got tonight. But if we can't beat the Heat, I hope to God that the Spurs skull fucks and sweeps their bitch asses and leaves Baby Bron and Wade crying like the pussies they are.

And yes, I'm mad bro...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 30, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
The association is a joke come playoff time.


Yes.


Always has been.  The problem is they don't call most of the shit.  Can I guy get open without pushing off?  Can I guy play defense without holding?   No pivot foot? 


And holy shit did rondo tell the big three to kiss his nuts. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 30, 2012, 11:07:43 PM
Boston with 15 more fouls.  Heat shoot almost 20 more FT's.  Hell, Lebron shot almost as many as Boston by himself.  This shit is rigged I hate to say, or at least it is so bad at protecting the 'superstars' that it isn't basketball anymore.

Dry anal rape.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on May 31, 2012, 08:11:36 AM

Yes.


Always has been.  The problem is they don't call most of the aMm.  Can I guy get open without pushing off?  Can I guy play defense without holding?   No pivot foot? 


And holy aMm did rondo tell the big three to kiss his nuts.

I actually like how the refs have generally let the teams play in this postseason.  I don't like watching free throw shooting fests.  But they do need to cut down on the "euro 3 step" thing they say Ginobili does, like when Harden used it to make 1 dribble at the 3 point line and get a layup.  He covered 22 feet with "2 steps".
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 09:17:54 AM
So ginobili sucks?

Link?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 09:25:02 AM
That, my friends, is exactly why everyone knows the league wants the Heat to win.  How the fuck can you NOT call that foul on the Rondo drive?  Seriously, anyone with an eye, even one, could see that foul. 

Two minor notes -

A.  LeBron got to the line 50 times because he was fouled 50 times.  He does get calls, but the Celtics simply played shitty D last night.
B.  The interesting thing about that Rondo foul...AFTER the review, they started talking about how it was an obvious foul, but not one single announcer mentioned it before the replay, except to say "Rondo is acting like he got fouled".  Not a one of them, sitting courtside, saw the foul.  I really didn't see where the ref was on the play, but it could have easily been missed if he was out of position, as it was a glancing blow coming down and across.  It was, unquestionably, a missed call.  It wasn't any worse than any other 20 missed calls in the average NBA game, though, except for when it happened.

The Wade pushing-off-with-the-leg thing was bush league.  The multiple Rondo threes with feet on the line was bush league.

The Thunder have gotten the short stick on the calls against the Spurs, but they're down 2-0 because the Spurs are too efficient and too well-coached.  I haven't noticed any real discrepancy in the calls in the Bos-Mia series, but Boston is down 2-0 because they are too old to run for 48 minutes.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 31, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
Fuck the Heat. As a big Celtics fan it enrages me even more after seeing the fuck job we got tonight. But if we can't beat the Heat, I hope to God that the Spurs skull fucks and sweeps their bitch asses and leaves Baby Bron and Wade crying like the pussies they are.

And yes, I'm mad bro...

Last night was a hard pill to swallow.  If the officiating evens up or even delivers home cooking in Boston, we're looking at a pivotal game 5.  Heat shot 18 more free throws, and it felt like 180.  El BJ shot 24 to Boston's 29.  That shit was absolutely criminal.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2012, 10:30:40 AM
Two minor notes from your resident Lebron apologist -

A.  LeBron got to the line 50 times because he was fouled 50 times.  He does get calls, but the Celtics simply played shitty D last night.
B.  The interesting thing about that Rondo foul...AFTER the review, they started talking about how it was an obvious foul, but not one single announcer mentioned it before the replay, except to say "Rondo is acting like he got fouled".  Not a one of them, sitting courtside, saw the foul.  I really didn't see where the ref was on the play, but it could have easily been missed if he was out of position, as it was a glancing blow coming down and across.  It was, unquestionably, a missed call.  It wasn't any worse than any other 20 missed calls in the average NBA game, though, except for when it happened.

The Wade pushing-off-with-the-leg thing was bush league.  The multiple Rondo threes with feet on the line was bush league.

The Thunder have gotten the short stick on the calls against the Spurs, but they're down 2-0 because the Spurs are too efficient and too well-coached.  I haven't noticed any real discrepancy in the calls in the Bos-Mia series, but Boston is down 2-0 because they are too old to run for 48 minutes.

Fixed
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 10:43:30 AM
Fixed

Not being a mindless hater is not the same thing as being an apologist.  I'm an "apologist" for anyone that is hated on because people are easily led to a narrative.

I'm completely neutral on LeBron.  I figure he's almost certainly a douche in real life, but he's amazingly well-adjusted for his path to this point.  There's no question he's one of the greatest players to ever walk on the floor.

I was cheering for the Celtics last night, and will be all series.  I am in no way a LeBron fan, but I don't jump on bandwagons just because the media creates a narrative and I'm too lazy to think for myself.

What free throws did LeBron shoot last night that weren't the result of a foul?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on May 31, 2012, 11:27:59 AM


What free throws did LeBron shoot last night that weren't the result of a foul?
There were about 3 or 4 times he went to the line after total BS calls, so I'd say the answer is 6 to 8.

That said, Pietrus GAVE Miami several FTs with bonehead give away fouls.

This POV is coming from a guy who doesn't care who wins any of the playoff games.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 11:38:18 AM
There were about 3 or 4 times he went to the line after total BS calls, so I'd say the answer is 6 to 8.

That said, Pietrus GAVE Miami several FTs with bonehead give away fouls.

This POV is coming from a guy who doesn't care who wins any of the playoff games.

There may have been touch fouls or non-fouls I missed, as there are in any and every game of any sport, but it looked to me like Boston just played like shit on that side of the ball.  They consistently let people by them, and then committed ineffectual little fouls that didn't prevent the shot.  Boston had Boston to blame for the free throw discrepancy last night, imho.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2012, 11:51:35 AM
Not being a mindless hater is not the same thing as being an apologist.  I'm an "apologist" for anyone that is hated on because people are easily led to a narrative.

I'm completely neutral on LeBron.  I figure he's almost certainly a douche in real life, but he's amazingly well-adjusted for his path to this point.  There's no question he's one of the greatest players to ever walk on the floor.

I was cheering for the Celtics last night, and will be all series.  I am in no way a LeBron fan, but I don't jump on bandwagons just because the media creates a narrative and I'm too lazy to think for myself.

What free throws did LeBron shoot last night that weren't the result of a foul?

The phantom call he got when him and Rondo were both going for the loose ball resulted in 2.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 11:58:43 AM
The phantom call he got when him and Rondo were both going for the loose ball resulted in 2.

The one where they were both going for the ball and Rondo undercut him?

You can make the case that maybe no foul should have been called, as they both had a right to pursue the ball, but if that is your Exhibit A for why the game was a robbery, I'm not seeing it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
The one where they were both going for the ball and Rondo undercut him?

You can make the case that maybe no foul should have been called, as they both had a right to pursue the ball, but if that is your Exhibit A for why the game was a robbery, I'm not seeing it.

Link?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
Link?

Well, if we're disregarding the "if" part of my sentence...

http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=68411.msg1518472#msg1518472

The first piece of evidence is usually Exhibit A, right?  I've never been to court where I contested the charges, so I may be wrong there.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 31, 2012, 12:31:43 PM
Well, if we're disregarding the "if" part of my sentence...

http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=68411.msg1518472#msg1518472

The first piece of evidence is usually Exhibit A, right?  I've never been to court where I contested the charges, so I may be wrong there.

Just because something is the first piece of evidence doesn't mean it's the strongest piece, or the lynch pin to the case.  47 free throws in a 53 minute game is not justifiable.  This argument that the C's are a jumpshooting team doesn't hold much water either, considering the Heat shot 10 more three pointers than Boston did (16-26).  Boston had 33 personal fouls to Miami's 18.

You're certainly welcome to think the game was evenly called.  I disagree.  I don't think Miami will get the calls in Boston, and that should even things out come game 5.  If not, fuck this game.  That's just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 12:38:15 PM
Just because something is the first piece of evidence doesn't mean it's the strongest piece, or the lynch pin to the case.  47 free throws in a 53 minute game is not justifiable.  This argument that the C's are a jumpshooting team doesn't hold much water either, considering the Heat shot 10 more three pointers than Boston did (16-26).  Boston had 33 personal fouls to Miami's 18.

You're certainly welcome to think the game was evenly called.  I disagree.  I don't think Miami will get the calls in Boston, and that should even things out come game 5.  If not, fuck this game.  That's just my humble opinion.

It may or may not have been evenly called, but I didn't see any significant difference beyond the NBA home court, watching it from home.

And again, shooting 50 free throws is ok if you're fouled on 25 shots.  Free throw discrepancy means nothing in a vacuum.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on May 31, 2012, 01:24:40 PM
  The multiple Rondo threes with feet on the line was bush league.


what? I'm 99.9% sure this only happened once and it was changed to a two during the timeout.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on May 31, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
what? I'm 99.9% sure this only happened once and it was changed to a two during the timeout.

I'm sure he was throwing in the 28 footer with his heel on the coach's box line . . .
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on May 31, 2012, 02:19:32 PM
Well, if we're disregarding the "if" part of my sentence...

http://woopig.net/board/index.php?topic=68411.msg1518472#msg1518472

The first piece of evidence is usually Exhibit A, right?  I've never been to court where I contested the charges, so I may be wrong there.

I didn't say anything about the game being a robbery.  I simply pointed out a bullshit foul call that resulted in Lebron taking 2 of his 24 fts.  You are the one who decided to bust out the jump to conclusions mat.

For the record yeronher I don't like either team. I'd be perfectly content watching DWade, Lebron, Rondo and Allen being simultaneously fed through a wood chipper.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
what? I'm 99.9% sure this only happened once and it was changed to a two during the timeout.

The next to last one (maybe next to next to last one, he got crazy in the forf), looked like he clearly had his right foot halfway over the line.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 31, 2012, 02:32:28 PM
The next to last one (maybe next to next to last one, he got crazy in the forf), looked like he clearly had his right foot halfway over the line.

Must've been a makeup call for Fisher's 3 that was called a 2 in Game 1 of the WCF. Never heard of the refs simply not reviewing a shot in time to overrule themselves until that game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on May 31, 2012, 02:53:51 PM
Must've been a makeup call for Fisher's 3 that was called a 2 in Game 1 of the WCF. Never heard of the refs simply not reviewing a shot in time to overrule themselves until that game.

Yeah, but there have been shitty calls helping OKC out in this series, too.  I think the officiating has been pretty even, except for the no-calls in the paint benefiting the Spurs, but that's home court in the NBA.

I really hope they start calling the hack fouls in the lane at home.  Ain't no chance OKC is gonna beat the Spurs if they don't get rewarded for drawing contact in the lane.  It's an uphill battle as it is.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on May 31, 2012, 04:26:35 PM
Arkproud I agree the officiating has been consitent but its still completely gone away from a skill game.  Like has been pointed out, harden and Durant literally take four steps on attacks to the basket.  Garnett still has no pivot foot.


Whoeve thinks Boston can guard Miami when they are attacking like last night is stupid.  The last foul on pierce was shit.  But rondo got two or three calls in the first half that were laughable. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on May 31, 2012, 10:09:49 PM
The Thunder seem to be playing well
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on May 31, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Almost to the point where you're afraid they are playing too well, if you are a thunder fan.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on May 31, 2012, 11:17:10 PM
The Thunder seem to be playing well

A couple of yabos that could be played with were seen under the basket following the alleyooop....
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 01, 2012, 07:57:40 AM
A couple of yabos that could be played with were seen under the basket following the alleyooop....

Unfortunately, they're connected to an Oklahoman. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: eastcoasthogfan on June 01, 2012, 08:35:31 AM
Unfortunately, they're connected to an Oklahoman.

I never met a decent pair I didn't like.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hog Leg on June 01, 2012, 08:43:32 AM
So ginobili sucks?  He's not a good passer, shooter, finisher?  Tell me which fricking nba player doesn't push off and or flop?

Just wanted to make sure everyone saw this again.  He crappie flopped more times last night than anyone in NBA history.  It is a fact he flopped more times than he made a basket. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 01, 2012, 07:15:46 PM
Just wanted to make sure everyone saw this again.  He crappie flopped more times last night than anyone in NBA history.  It is a fact he flopped more times than he made a basket.

So again which player does not flop, overreact, push off etc???

Wanted to make sure you answered this question.  The guy can play. 

Westbrook, rondo, wade, pierce, Parker, the list goes on and on
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 01, 2012, 10:13:15 PM
Epic collapse incoming or will they hold them off?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: shithead on June 01, 2012, 11:48:53 PM
Un fortunately, they're connected to an Oklahoman, because I've never met an Okie chick that wouldn't fuck yer balls off.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 03, 2012, 09:56:14 AM
2 straight.  Hope the Spurs can stretch this streak out, as well (at least to 4).
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 03, 2012, 12:07:57 PM
2 straight.  Hope the Spurs can stretch this streak out, as well (at least to 4).

You'll notice the direct correlation to Westbrook's touches and minutes to that team's selfless play.  When Westbrook is out, or not bringing the ball up the floor, they move the ball well.   Of course last night their bigs shot the medium range jump shot lights out.   Then Durant took them home. I would trade westbrook and win threeveteen NBA titles in a row.  They have the most talent, and its not close
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 03, 2012, 12:53:34 PM
You'll notice the direct correlation to Westbrook's touches and minutes to that team's selfless play.  When Westbrook is out, or not bringing the ball up the floor, they move the ball well.   Of course last night their bigs shot the medium range jump shot lights out.   Then Durant took them home. I would trade westbrook and win threeveteen NBA titles in a row.  They have the most talent, and its not close

No, not really.

He's a shooting PG.  I don't know why people hate those so much, but he is an integral part of what OKC does on both sides of the floor.

The Thunder are +21 with Westbrook on the floor against the Spurs, +61 against the Lakers, +8 against the Mavericks, +90 for the playoffs.  In 13 playoff games so far, the Thunder have been been minus with Westbrook on the floor 4 times, the first two games against Dallas to start the playoffs (-4, -5), and games 2 and 4 against the Spurs, (-3, -5).

The Thunder are better with Russell Westbrook on the floor.  His ability to get in the lane, draw contact, and hit the 15-23 foot jumper are all key in this offense, and his defense has improved every year.  He's also an underrated passer, and one of the best athletes to ever play the position. 

He's also a juvenile ballhog who makes bad decisions at times.  That, too, is improving, but it will probably always be a bit of a trade-off with him.  With the positives he brings to the court, I'll make that trade, 10 times out of ten.

They'll have the chance to win threeveteen NBA titles with the squad they have now.  You do realize they have already swept the Mavericks, took down LA in 5, and broke the third-longest winning streak in NBA history with a beatdown and a controlling win in the Western Conference Finals, right?  And Durant is 4 years younger than Jordan was when he won his first (not saying they are about to win their first, but it's certainly in play).
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 03, 2012, 01:06:49 PM
Plus minus with a guy on the floor can be very misleading.  There were times when he was in last night but had nothing to do with the offensive possession.  He is a phenom athletically.  His talent is way beyond his level on the floor which is okay when you have great talent surrounding you.  What did Westbrook do last night?   The best thing he did was give the ball up.  He lost game one for okc.   His decision making, even when he gives the ball up, is bad.  He rarely makes the right read.  His defense, meh.  I'll argue this....ibaka and sefal play more and Westbrook less, thunder up 3 to 1
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 03, 2012, 01:28:32 PM
I'll argue this....ibaka and sefal play more and Westbrook less, thunder up 3 to 1

And OKC is supposed to roll without a point guard? Come on man Westbrook is one of the best players in the NBA of course OKC is better with him on the floor. And I do agree that Sefalosha needs to be in the game but Brooks usually subs DFish in for him so Thabo being in really has nothing to do with Westbrook.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 03, 2012, 02:11:48 PM
And OKC is supposed to roll without a point guard? Come on man Westbrook is one of the best players in the NBA of course OKC is better with him on the floor. And I do agree that Sefalosha needs to be in the game but Brooks usually subs DFish in for him so Thabo being in really has nothing to do with Westbrook.

I didn't mean to insinuate that wesbrook and Sefalosha are interchangeable.  James harden and even Derek fisher can get the job done at point with those bigs behind them.  Did you watch the fourth quarter of game one?  Westbrook gift wrapped that game. He had one of the worst three minute stretches in NBA history.  The thunder are by far the most talented team in the league
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on June 03, 2012, 10:27:45 PM
A motherfucking flop by the single most protected player in NBA history (exceeding even the aura of Jabbar, he of the dribble continuation, and even Jordan) puts the game in overtime.  James fucks with KG then falls down and gets the call from the referee waiting, begging, desiring, yes...even anticipating the call....contact, any contact, and I can make this call....yes!

The officiating in the NBA makes me want to gag. 

Edit...A typical make-up call puts James out, after Pierce sits down.  Gagging here.  WWE level shit...forget what you see, the reality of the NBA is not of your universe.

Edit...on the inbound a Celtic slams into Wade, no call.  Then, moments later, as Wade drives, a Celt breathes heavily on him....TOOT!  Foul to give.

Edit...Last shot, Wade desperately pump fakes, the Celtic defender leaps into the air, Wade leans in, the Celt JUST manages to dodge him, and Wade flings it up, a simple three without the addition of the classic pump-fake-then-jump-into-the-defender-foul-call to pad the play.  The beans and rice goes into the trash can.

Game over, now time to re-enter the universe of my birth.  The fucking dishes need putting away.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 04, 2012, 12:58:38 AM
Bron apparently is confused about what happens when you commit your 6th foul...Since nobody has had the balls to actually call 6 on him since he got to Miami. Granted, it was a bullshit foul, but the same as the one on KG.

The refs are ruining these playoffs.   
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on June 04, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
Bron apparently is confused about what happens when you commit your 6th foul...Since nobody has had the balls to actually call 6 on him since he got to Miami. Granted, it was a bullshit foul, but the same as the one on KG.

The refs are ruining these playoffs.

Lots of fouls throughout the game should have just been play throughs, like Pierce's 6th, Lebron's 6th, and the foul on KG toward the end of regulation.  However, at least the KG and LeBron fouls were called the same way.  They may have been bullshit, but I think your average basketball fan can deal with bullshit as long as it's called both ways.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 04, 2012, 09:23:18 AM
Lots of fouls throughout the game should have just been play throughs, like Pierce's 6th, Lebron's 6th, and the foul on KG toward the end of regulation.  However, at least the KG and LeBron fouls were called the same way.  They may have been bullshit, but I think your average basketball fan can deal with bullshit as long as it's called both ways.

I was always taught that it doesn't matter how many they miss, just so they miss them evenly.

I love how people get HD basketball delivered to their 50-inch TV and then want to talk about how the game has gone to hell with the horrible refereeing. 

I love how people forget that in the late 1980's, the NBA Champion was the team that could complete the most tackles.

I've seen one game ever in any sport that I thought the refs deserved credit for swinging the game, Arkansas-Florida a few years ago.  And yet, after every NBA game, there's wailing and gnashing of teeth about how horrible the officiating is, and how it has ruined basketball forever and ever amen.

If refereeing has ruined the game for you, stop watching it.  I mean, shit.  Ain't nothing changed but the angles and clarity you get to see it with, which no ref in the league gets.  And still, even with the advantage of watching on your (royal "you" in this paragraph) fatass from your LazyBoy, and announcers explaining the rules to your never-played-beyond-high-school-30-years-ago ass, you STILL can't call the game as accurately as the 60-year-old white guy running up and down the court and calling the game from an oblique, the one you call a horrible corrupt asshole.

Those who can't do, teach.  Those who can't teach, criticize.  Those who can't criticize, talk shit on message boards.  I criticize shit-talking on message boards, because I'm a stone cold hardass.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 04, 2012, 09:39:27 AM
The 2002 Sac Kings say 'hai'. 

Oh, you were taught wrong, cause they NEVER miss evenly.  Ask a Heat fan if the calls on KG and Lebron were both missed 'evenly'?

The refs ruining basketball started long ago and it is continuing today.  The fact that some players absolutely get calls that others do not has been around for a long time and it certainly takes the sport out of it.  When rules don't apply evenly, it isn't sport, it is entertainment.  People still watch wrestling and will continue to watch it, just like basketball.  Doesn't mean that it is right that the refs don't just miss calls, they miss certain calls against certain players and certain teams, depending on whether home or away. 

It would be one thing if they just missed calls, but they don't.  They miss calls on specific players and teams.  That isn't just 'missing' a call.  When they give certain players the benefit of calls over and over, that isn't missing a call.  That is absolutely cheating, whether they know it or not.  You think that call would have been made on Lebron in Miami?  No Fucking Way.  That isn't missing a call then.  That is basing a call on where the game is being played. 

Refs are people and make honest mistakes.  When there is a pattern, it isn't really just an honest mistake, it is something more. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Where Eagles Dare on June 04, 2012, 09:41:38 AM
I was always taught that it doesn't matter how many they miss, just so they miss them evenly.

Agreeance.  Interesting that the game had 12 total offensive fouls (which is absurd), and that it was 6 and 6 between both teams.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Snorts on June 04, 2012, 10:42:08 AM
Flopping drives me nuts.  Sure, everyone does it.  So, the entire league suffers from it, we all spend an entire game watching the alternate WWE reality of the flopping game.  You can shrug, rationalize, say oh well the refs call the flop consistently, but it still sucks balls.  And, it is pussy.  It is European.  It is WWE shit.  It is about a show, not a game.

They do it because it works, the fucking referees call it.  If they teed you up for trying to influence the referees decision, fined you and suspended you a game for flopping it would be rare.  As it is, the only downside is the remote possibility you get called for a block.

I think the refs call the flop poorly, it is administered grossly unfairly, the focal point of the other WWE game, the protected player.  We can shrug, say oh well, that's the game, er show.  But, watching calls go the superstar's way, on a fucking flop, is a double dose of WWE shit, in one package.  That sucks.

I may have a higher threshold of annoyance than some of you.  I started watching the NBA in 1971.  Lived in the Boston area in 1974 and attended several games in the old Garden in that championship year.  I played basketball 5 days a week until I was about 40.  I coached it for a living, and refereed it too.  Refereeing BBall is hard, trust me.

The erosion of the NBA from great game into great show bothers me.  The referee getting caught betting bothered me.  Flopping enrages me. 

Al that said, I will watch the rest of the playoffs, getting pissed off every time someone flops, whether there is a call or not.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on June 04, 2012, 01:10:51 PM
You think that call would have been made on Lebron in Miami?  No Fucking Way. 

But Paul Pierce fouled out on basically the same play earlier in the game.... IN BOSTON.  So, had that game been played EXACTLY as it was but in Miami, maybe Bronbron would have gotten called for his 6th foul in that tripped on each other mix up play. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jmcwill04 on June 04, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXFzxhlwq1o
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 04, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
I think this is now my second reference to Jordan's shot over Ehlo in this thread during the playoffs.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/175130/37931867_medium.jpg)

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201206/120604.08.jpg)

Apparently watching someone miss a game winner is the exact same as actually making a game winner.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 04, 2012, 06:30:09 PM
But Paul Pierce fouled out on basically the same play earlier in the game.... IN BOSTON.  So, had that game been played EXACTLY as it was but in Miami, maybe Bronbron would have gotten called for his 6th foul in that tripped on each other mix up play.

Doubt it.  Paul Pierce has fouled out in multiple games.  Bron has NEVER fouled out before last night since coming to Miami.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GolfingHog on June 04, 2012, 07:16:24 PM
Here's Red Aurebach's thought on flopping, from the grave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IK3bvlyzpg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 04, 2012, 08:56:01 PM
So Parker drives the ball into the lane, totally out of control, makes no attempt to even get a shot up on the rim, falls down out of bounds, and the referee calls a foul.

Don't worry, San Antonio. The officials will get the message from Stern at halftime that they are to get you back in this game in a hurry in the 2nd half. Can't have people turning off their TVs once a team gets too big a lead, now, can we?

Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is your NBA!!!

Parker is a total wuss.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hog Leg on June 04, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
Doubt it.  Paul Pierce has fouled out in multiple games.  Bron has NEVER fouled out before last night since coming to Miami.

Pretty sure King James has not fouled out of a game since early 2008. That is a lot of minutes.
Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is your NBA!!!

Parker is a total wuss.

I hate the spurs, but the way most of these games are being called really makes me just scratch my head and say what the fuck?  I agree with the refs trying to keep all the games close can't lose those tv breaks or ticket sales can we?  Mama Stern needs a new purse.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 04, 2012, 10:25:58 PM
Hey, Genobli. Try this.

It would be hilarious if Parker hurt himself by banging his head on the floor trying to draw yet another phantom foul.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 04, 2012, 10:33:12 PM
I swear. They call a foul on Westbrook for raising his arms when Parker is hanging on him. This is just ridiculous. The refs just got the text message. Parker's been on the floor more often than a $10 hooker.

And Albert congratulating Parker on his play. Unreal.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: boomer_sooie on June 04, 2012, 10:33:39 PM
 :puke:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 04, 2012, 10:41:50 PM
So running into a player, obviously fouling him, and making him lose the ball out of bounds is a good play.

But of course.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on June 04, 2012, 10:52:59 PM
That was a fun game to watch.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on June 05, 2012, 02:40:44 AM
That was a fun game to watch.

It was.  I like watching the NBA playoffs, mainly b/c the players actually care.  That's why I could care less about the whining about the fouls.  I'd lots rather see an NBA player whine about a foul than walk off the court smiling after a loss, which is what they do so many times in the regular season.

The last four teams left are the most fun teams to watch in the NBA.  And after watching most of the playoffs, it's clear the best skilled basketball player in the world is Kevin Durant.  But possibly the 2nd best and definitely the most fun to watch is Rajon Rondo.  He's the only NBA player you can see play that appears as though he's playing on a different level than everyone else.  He toys with the best athletes in the world.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 05, 2012, 07:09:09 AM

The last four teams left are the most fun teams to watch in the NBA.  And after watching most of the playoffs, it's clear the best skilled basketball player in the world is Kevin Durant.  But possibly the 2nd best and definitely the most fun to watch is Rajon Rondo.  He's the only NBA player you can see play that appears as though he's playing on a different level than everyone else.  He toys with the best athletes in the world.

Lebron is still the best, Durant is a better scorer than Lebron but that's about it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 05, 2012, 07:23:34 AM
Lebron is still the best, Durant is a better scorer than Lebron but that's about it.


Agreed.  With the way wade has performed this postseason, I would argue that this heat team is worse than the lebron led cavs.  Without james on the floor, this team is a low level lottery team.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 05, 2012, 08:12:03 AM
I wasn't posting during the game, as I was 30 minutes behind on DVR, but the first minute for the Spurs was some of the most chickenshit horseshit I have ever seen.

Parker launches himself at Ibaka's chest while Ibaka stands in the lane, foul on Ibaka.  Ginobili purposefully and blatantly takes out Ibaka's legs while he's jogging back for D, Ibaka goes to the bench.  2 fouls in one minute, and the guy never did shit.  The referees might as well have asked Popovich which Thunder players he wanted out in the first.

That said, the reffing in this game was just generally shittastic, both ways.  It happens in every game in every sport, sometimes the refs just wanna be involved.

I'll be glad when we don't have to play this soccer team anymore, one way or the other. (Yeah, I use"we"...fuck you, I bought a shirt)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 05, 2012, 08:32:10 AM
The NBA officiating is awful.   Agreed with the Tony Parker bullshit.  I love the spurs but Parker played awful.  He was the one driving to th lane out of control looking for a bailout.  Like I have said, clean up the game,
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: The Satchuation on June 05, 2012, 09:39:34 AM
The Spurs are good, but sweet lord what a bunch of pussies. They get pretty creative in coming up with ways to act like they've just been murdered, so I guess if you are a proponent of wanton faggotry then they deserve some credit for that. I'm all for the Thunder winning the whole damn thing, but I do sort of wish we'd have had the Lakers in this series because there is no way that Tru Warier Metta World Peace gets through 6-7 games of that crap without slipping into psychosis and snapping the head off of Ginobili, Parker and/or the entire officiating crew.

Anyway, yeah - LeBron :rainbow: > Durant  :notexas:. Durant can fill it up, but LeBron is the better player. He's a freakish athlete, but he has plenty of skill to go with it.

Quote from: Arkansas Proud
the most fun to watch is Rajon Rondo.  He's the only NBA player you can see play that appears as though he's playing on a different level than everyone else.  He toys with the best athletes in the world.

Love watching Rondo – especially when he's talking shit and getting into postgame flareups with Doris Burke. The only PG I'd rather have for sure is pre-injury Rose. I might be talked into Paul or Westbrook, but that's it. And for the potential Rondo-Westbrook matchup, I'm really hoping for Celts-Thunder in the finals. Well, that and Brandon Bass vs. Serge Ibaka.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 05, 2012, 09:58:29 AM
Durant is my favorite player in the game.  If I could change any one thing in the pro sports world, he wouldn't have gone to texass.

But LeBron is the best player in the league right now.  30-10-8 is still better than 36-6-6.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: gambler on June 05, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
Durant is my favorite player in the game.  If I could change any one thing in the pro sports world, he wouldn't have gone to texass.

But LeBron is the best player in the league right now.  30-10-8 is still better than 36-6-6.
Not a big NBA fan, but have really enjoyed these 2 series. I love watching Durant play. As far as who's the best between him and LBJ, that's close. LBJ fills up the stat sheet but can't/won't finish. If it's late in the 4th quarter, I will take Durant all day long.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 05, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
Durant is my favorite player in the game.  If I could change any one thing in the pro sports world, he wouldn't have gone to texass.

But LeBron is the best player in the league right now.  30-10-8 is still better than 36-6-6.

Hitting game winners > missing game winners.

Advantage Durant
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Sus-Scrofa on June 05, 2012, 02:40:10 PM
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8009374/2012-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-coach-spoelstra-care-less-rajon-rondo-comments

Quote
When asked on his way to the locker room during halftime what holes he was exploiting in the Heat's defense as part of Boston's offensive outburst, Rondo took a shot at the Heat by telling ESPN's Doris Burke, "Them complaining and crying to the referees in transition."

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 05, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Hitting game winners > missing game winners.

Advantage Durant

Robert Horry made game winners too. Lebron has better numbers than Durant and he is first team all NBA on defense. I can't stand Lebron since he went to Miami but there is a reason he won the MVP this year.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 05, 2012, 08:07:59 PM
90% of Lebron's game is to crash into the lane and do his best "Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man" impression. Unless it is a last shot scenario then he either can't get it out of his hands fast enough or settles for a bad jumper. If I'm starting a team today and have the first pick I'm taking Durant.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Count Porkula on June 05, 2012, 08:53:55 PM
90% of Lebron's game is to crash into the lane and do his best "Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man" impression. Unless it is a last shot scenario then he either can't get it out of his hands fast enough or settles for a bad jumper. If I'm starting a team today and have the first pick I'm taking Durant.

HOLY FUCK!!  a C&H sighting.   :stunned:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on June 05, 2012, 09:56:44 PM
Man, holy shit. I sure hope the Finals are as exciting as the conference finals have been so far!! This eastern conference game 5 is awesome!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: jsimp on June 05, 2012, 10:10:54 PM
What are the odds lebron takes a shot the rest of this game?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 05, 2012, 10:13:54 PM
That shot by pierce was filthy.

Celtics might get swept by thunder.  Garnett will get locked up. He is the advantage in this series.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 05, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
90% of Lebron's game is to crash into the lane and do his best "Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man" impression. Unless it is a last shot scenario then he either can't get it out of his hands fast enough or settles for a bad jumper. If I'm starting a team today and have the first pick I'm taking Durant.

Durant can score.  He has a tremendous supporting cast. You put Durant with heat they aren't in east finals

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 05, 2012, 10:32:48 PM
Durant can score.  He has a tremendous supporting cast. You put Durant with heat they aren't in east finals

Durant/Wade/Bosh aren't beating the Knicks and the Pacers? Really?

Durant is not a defensive liability and there isn't a place on the court where he isn't a threat to score. He's also only 23. Lebron's game is largely made from his physical advantage. Later in his career that'll be the first thing to go. Then he'll have to rely on his mediocre jump shot. Durant will be knocking down shots for the next 15 years.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on June 05, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
Excellent post, C&H.

OKC is going to win a NBA championship. Crazy to think about.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogye West on June 05, 2012, 10:42:35 PM
Celtics know how to win when it matters. Heat don't.

Biggest difference. Go Celtics
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 05, 2012, 10:46:17 PM
HOLY FUCK!!  a C&H sighting.   :stunned:
Sackcloth & Ashes

#idontforgetanythingnotimportant
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 05, 2012, 11:00:56 PM
Durant/Wade/Bosh aren't beating the Knicks and the Pacers? Really?

Durant is not a defensive liability and there isn't a place on the court where he isn't a threat to score. He's also only 23. Lebron's game is largely made from his physical advantage. Later in his career that'll be the first thing to go. Then he'll have to rely on his mediocre jump shot. Durant will be knocking down shots for the next 15 years.


I wasn't counting bosh.  I meant the current team.  Durant isn't a liability but he isn't checking the other teams best or second best player.  He has great post defenders behind him .  He is good rebounder because he is 6 10.  He is a phenomenonal scorer.  He plays on by far the team with the most talent.  He is top five because he is the best scorer.  But he is not Lebron

And we're not talking about 15 years from now. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 05, 2012, 11:07:35 PM
Bosh played tonight and the whole NY series. Wade, Durant and 3 scrubs are still enough to handle Danny Granger and Hansborough. Durant spent a lot of time guarding Kobe in the LA series as well.

I consider a "scorer" someone like Iverson who was a chucker. Shot 30 times to get his 30 points. Durant can get his 30 in half the shots most nights. And..even though he does have a great supporting cast, the last 6 min of Game 4 was pass the ball to KD and getthefuckouttheway...and there wasn't a damn thing San Antonio could do about it.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on June 05, 2012, 11:17:18 PM
Miami is a soft team. Boston just wanted it more. Miami also looks like a collection of individuals who are all doing their own thing unlike Boston who play as a team. Bron Bron right now is probably wearing those stupid ass Urkel glasses and drinking some fruity ass woman drink and not giving a fuck about anything but the "NBA life". He ain't no Jordan or Kobe no matter what his fans think.

If OKC is going to beat Boston in the finals, Durant needs to tell Westbrook to stop acting like fucking AI in the last couple of minutes of the game and get the ball to him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 06, 2012, 12:30:13 AM
It's always a good day when the Heat lose. Any bad thing in basketball that can happen to Lebron or Diane Wade (yeah, I know how it's pronounced, but it's spelled "Dwy-ane," so I'm pronouncing it phonetically and calling him Diane or Dwiane from now on) is fine with me. Diane's almost as big a flopper as Tony Parker, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Hogye West on June 06, 2012, 01:40:31 AM
It's always a good day when the Heat lose. Any bad thing in basketball that can happen to Lebron or Diane Wade (yeah, I know how it's pronounced, but it's spelled "Dwy-ane," so I'm pronouncing it phonetically and calling him Diane or Dwiane from now on) is fine with me. Diane's almost as big a flopper as Tony Parker, and that's saying something.

In all seriousness, I never knew that his name was spelled like that. Never even crossed my mind. I always just assumed it was spelled "Dwayne" for some reason. I had to look it up to be sure. That's stupid
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 06, 2012, 07:53:53 AM

I wasn't counting bosh.  I meant the current team.  Durant isn't a liability but he isn't checking the other teams best or second best player.  He has great post defenders behind him .  He is good rebounder because he is 6 10.

WTF is your point? Are those rebounds somehow not as valuable because Durant is 6'10?

He plays on by far the team with the most talent.

His team has better cohesion but that doesn't mean it has more talent.  Bosh/Wade/Lebron > Durant/Westbrook/Harden.

But he is not Lebron

I agree.  Durant hits his game winners and doesn't fade in the 4th.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 06, 2012, 08:00:54 AM
Miami is soft. No doubt. There is some serious issues with the chemistry.  Wade Takes too many possessions off.  He doesn't have shaq back there to cover his ass.  Wade is like Westbrook,  he makes the exciting play but not the winning play

Lebron seems to get pissed when his teammates don't execute the offense, or make the right play.  In all seriousness he needs to quit letting officiating affect his play. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 06, 2012, 08:13:51 AM
So basketball is three on three?  Perkins, ibaka, Sefalosha, collison, are way the fuck better than one legged mike miller, chalmers, an haslem. 

For Christ sake ibaka was 11 for 11 in game three.  Miami has three great players but the rest is below average.  That team is also Ill constructed.  They have zero post play.  Zero.  On both ends.  They have spotty three point shooting. 


Kevin Durant is fucking awesome.  He is a team player.  He is the best shooter/scorer (depending how you want to phrase it) in the game.  He is not a better player than lebron James.  Just because you can rise up an make a jump shot every now and then at the end of a ball game does not mean you are the best player in the
league.  Is Paul pierce awesome because he made that three in James face?   His teammates got him to that point an he was clutch. Like was mentioned, Robert horry was clutch.  More clutch shots in big time games than anyone else we talked about.....guess whAt? He played with great teams who got him to that situation. 


Is Kevin Durant a great rebounder? Seriously? Can he go get 30 and 13 on a bad shooting night?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on June 06, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
My son laments watching James Harden play.  He chants "Hasheem Thabeet".

I tell him, it could be worse,  you could be a Portland fan...
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 06, 2012, 08:42:45 AM
So basketball is three on three?  Perkins, ibaka, Sefalosha, collison, are way the fuck better than one legged mike miller, chalmers, an haslem. 

For Christ sake ibaka was 11 for 11 in game three.  Miami has three great players but the rest is below average.  That team is also Ill constructed.  They have zero post play.  Zero.  On both ends.  They have spotty three point shooting. 


Kevin Durant is fucking awesome.  He is a team player.  He is the best shooter/scorer (depending how you want to phrase it) in the game.  He is not a better player than lebron James.  Just because you can rise up an make a jump shot every now and then at the end of a ball game does not mean you are the best player in the
league.  Is Paul pierce awesome because he made that three in James face?   His teammates got him to that point an he was clutch. Like was mentioned, Robert horry was clutch.  More clutch shots in big time games than anyone else we talked about.....guess whAt? He played with great teams who got him to that situation. 


Is Kevin Durant a great rebounder? Seriously? Can he go get 30 and 13 on a bad shooting night?
LeBron is a team offense killer. The ball stops. It's never moved quickly nor shot quickly unless the clock is down. Watch him. Pass to LeBron. Ball stops. I've also never seen him catch and shoot nor consistently post up mismatches.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on June 06, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
LeBron is the best player in the game.  But he's not so much better that he can do it without help.  I honestly thought Wade was the 2nd best player when he and Lebron paired up, but now I wouldn't put him in the top 5.  Not the way he's playing now.

The Celtics are a pretty darn good team, and they have been since the Big 3 got together.  They got screwed out of a championship a couple years ago b/c Perkins didn't play.  And the year before Garnett was hurt.  Pierce and Rando are the two most underrated players in the game.  And the difference with being 35 is these guys have to lay it all on the line b/c there might not be a next year.  That's the main difference in the Celtics and the Heat this series - but still, had Wade made the 3 last game at the end this series would be over.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 06, 2012, 01:13:03 PM
So basketball is three on three?  Perkins, ibaka, Sefalosha, collison, are way the fuck better than one legged mike miller, chalmers, an haslem.


Is basketball 7 on 6? While I'm sure Jostlyn's "way better" indicator is valued by GMs across the league, not being privy to your proprietary algorithm of Zima, tampons and Gossip Girl I'm forced to look at more tradtional stats like ppg, rebound and assists. 

Perk/Coll/Sefo/Ibaka  averaged 24 pts, 21 rebs, 4 ast

Miller/Chalm/Batt/Hasl averaged 27 pts, 16 rebs, 7 ast

That team is also Ill constructed.  They have zero post play.  Zero.  On both ends.  They have spotty three point shooting.


I agree

Kevin Durant is fucking awesome.  He is a team player.  He is the best shooter/scorer (depending how you want to phrase it) in the game.  He is not a better player than lebron James.  Just because you can rise up an make a jump shot every now and then at the end of a ball game does not mean you are the best player in the league.

1 shot does not determine the best player in the league.  However, the inability to consistently close and hit said clutch shots at the end of key games does preclude one from being considered the best in the NBA.  If there was an award for the best player in the 1st 3 quarters of the game, Lebron would have a strong case but sadly there is no such title. 

Is Paul pierce awesome because he made that three in James face? His teammates got him to that point an he was clutch.

Purely subjective but hitting that shot sure as shit doesn't make him suck. You act as if Lebron hasn't been in numerous situations where he had the opportunity to put the game away.  The opportunities have been there, Lebron just hasn't done shit with them.

Like was mentioned, Robert horry was clutch.  More clutch shots in big time games than anyone else we talked about.....guess whAt? He played with great teams who got him to that situation.


Don't go full retard.   

Is Kevin Durant a great rebounder? Seriously? Can he go get 30 and 13 on a bad shooting night?

Durant averaged 8 rebs on the season and had 10+ five times in the playoffs (14 games).   He had 5 games the entire season where he scored under 20 pts and in 1 of those he only played 27 minutes. So yes, I will gladly take Durant's scoring, rebounding and clutch shooting over Lebron's every day of the week.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 06, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
Hogs4life you can seriously Use stats as youR number one defense and then say Durant is better can you?  You are telling me that the heat's big three are better statistically and then tell me Durant is the better player.

And if you don't think that ibaka Perkins Sefalosha collison are better than battier, haslem, chalmers you are a fuckin.g idiot...which based on your bullshit post I believe you are. 

Clark, lebron can sometimes kill an offense....however, I might give him a free pass on that considering the offenses that his two head coaches run are predicated primarily on isolation and weak side back screens.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 06, 2012, 01:49:39 PM
Hogs4life, who currently has hit more big shots than Robert horry?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on June 06, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
- but still, had Wade made the 3 last game at the end this series would be over.

And if Wade had been called for that foul on Rondo in game two the series would be over. 

Aren't what if games fun?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on June 06, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
who currently has hit more big shots than Robert horry?

George Best
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 06, 2012, 04:42:25 PM
Hogs4life you can seriously Use stats as youR number one defense and then say Durant is better can you?  You are telling me that the heat's big three are better statistically and then tell me Durant is the better player.

What stat does Lebron have the edge in aside from assists? Durant is the better scorer, pulls down more boards (8 vs. 7.9....fuck rounding) and will straight up cut a bitch when the game is on the line. You can keep Lebron, his 2 extra assists and his inability to do shit in the 4Q when the game is on the line. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 06, 2012, 04:48:24 PM
Lebron is one of the top 3 defensive players in the NBA. Kevin Durant has yet to make an appearance on the all NBA-defensive team. Durant has the edge on Lebron in a few aspects of the game, but he is not a better all around player.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 08:30:41 PM
Not so fast my frien...

SA is trying to stay alive and force a game 7 in San Antonio I guess.  Up 34-20 at the end of the first.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 06, 2012, 09:47:57 PM
SA is going to be a tough out and came out strong. The Thunder took it on the chin and have punched back. Entertaining game and the 4th quarter should be great.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on June 06, 2012, 10:00:48 PM
This finish is going to be awesome.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Durant *    9-16    7-9    4-8    12 (0/12)    3    1    0    2    2    29

Ho Hum, 29 points on 16 shots, 12 rebounds and 3 assists... with 10 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Buffinator on June 06, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Come on OKC, 12 minutes for the rest of your lives  :shocker:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on June 06, 2012, 10:14:51 PM
The flopping here in the 4th quarter by the Thunder is Clipperesque.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 10:16:55 PM
The flopping here in the 4th quarter by the Thunder is Clipperesque.

Pretty bad.  I guess they are going to win on FT's.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on June 06, 2012, 10:18:53 PM
Pretty bad.  I guess they are going to win on FT's.

The Thunder have played a great second half but the Spurs are getting NO calls here in the 4th quarter.




Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 06, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
And that's why they signed DFish
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 06, 2012, 10:29:07 PM
That's one fucking loud basketball arena
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 10:29:42 PM
Joey Crawford is the worst ref in the league.  HE wants to be part of the game, not just call it.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 06, 2012, 10:30:35 PM
Durant. All. Day.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on June 06, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Joey Crawford is the worst ref in the league.  HE wants to be part of the game, not just call it.
Stern says he's the best in the league because he follows the script every time.

Crawford will probably be in Boston to help out the Heat.

Edit: Durant is everything you would want your superstar/face of the franchise to be....Humble, quiet, confident, team player, plays hard all the time, doesn't cry to refs, doesn't flop, and drills clutch shots.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 10:36:10 PM
Durant shows how to close a team out:

Durant *    48:00    9-17    12-15    4-8    14 (0/14)    5    2    1    2    2    34


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on June 06, 2012, 10:37:00 PM
I've seen Joey Crawford ref many Grizz games, and he pretty much thinks the crowd is there to watch him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 06, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
As you drink tonight, put in your mudhoney cd, rock the doc martens, YouTube Shawn kemp and remember the Sonic fans.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 10:38:22 PM
I've seen Joey Crawford ref many Grizz games, and he pretty much thinks the crowd is there to watch him.

Yep.  Worst kind of ref.  He didn't even cost the Spurs the game really, he is just a horrible fucking ref.  He wants to be remembered after the game.  That is the worst ref possible.  The fact that everyone knows his name shows exactly how fucking shitty he is.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: mr.zorak on June 06, 2012, 10:42:35 PM
Yep.  Worst kind of ref.  He didn't even cost the Spurs the game really, he is just a horrible fucking ref.  He wants to be remembered after the game.  That is the worst ref possible.  The fact that everyone knows his name shows exactly how fucking shitty he is.

We have a ref like that in the SEC.  His name is Ted Valentine.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 06, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
We have a ref like that in the SEC.  His name is Ted Valentine.
Pen Wagers
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 06, 2012, 10:53:37 PM
We have a ref like that in the SEC.  His name is Ted Valentine.

When they take 5 points off the board...that is doing something.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Judge Issac Porker on June 06, 2012, 10:59:31 PM
As you drink tonight, put in your mudhoney cd, rock the doc martens, YouTube Shawn kemp and remember the Sonic fans.

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: GuinnessHog on June 06, 2012, 11:24:45 PM
Even the buildings sport the Harden beard

(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/NRJg.OMRl5PnnEaPi1NCKg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/Paging-Architectural-Digest.-Image-via-@ferrrrn.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 06, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
Just got done watching the replay....the
Officiating in the second half was a joke. Derek fisher fouls his man literally every possession.  Westbrook didn't freak out as much as normal.  Offensive fouls on duncan and Ginobili and Perkins with none?   Awful.  The second half looked like a fuxkin pick up game which ain't good for the spurs.  Hogs4life, you'll learn someday that stats are OVERfuckingRATED.  That being said Durant had a nice game.

Like I said if Westbrook keeps his fucking up to a minimum, they are unbeatable.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 07, 2012, 02:05:15 AM
Just got done watching the replay....the
Officiating in the second half was a joke. Derek fisher fouls his man literally every possession.  Westbrook didn't freak out as much as normal.  Offensive fouls on duncan and Ginobili and Perkins with none?   Awful.  The second half looked like a fuxkin pick up game which ain't good for the spurs.  Hogs4life, you'll learn someday that stats are OVERfuckingRATED.  That being said Durant had a nice game.

Like I said if Westbrook keeps his fucking up to a minimum, they are unbeatable.

Durant *    48:00    9-17    12-15    4-8    14 (0/14)    5    2    1    2    2    34

Nice game...

James *    45:20    11-25    6-8    2-6    13 (3/10)    2    1    2    3    1    30


I guess shooting under 50%, fewer rebounds, fewer assists, fewer blocks, more turnovers and less points isn't a nice game at all.

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 07, 2012, 07:45:53 AM
Durant *    48:00    9-17    12-15    4-8    14 (0/14)    5    2    1    2    2    34

Nice game...

James *    45:20    11-25    6-8    2-6    13 (3/10)    2    1    2    3    1    30


I guess shooting under 50%, fewer rebounds, fewer assists, fewer blocks, more turnovers and less points isn't a nice game at all.

Don't forget though that Durant is 6'10 which is the reason he gets those rebounds.  ::)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 07, 2012, 07:46:29 AM
Just got done watching the replay....the
Officiating in the second half was a joke. Derek fisher fouls his man literally every possession.  Westbrook didn't freak out as much as normal.  Offensive fouls on duncan and Ginobili and Perkins with none?   Awful.  The second half looked like a fuxkin pick up game which ain't good for the spurs.  Hogs4life, you'll learn someday that stats are OVERfuckingRATED.  That being said Durant had a nice game.

Like I said if Westbrook keeps his fucking up to a minimum, they are unbeatable.

Nice partial tuck
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 07, 2012, 08:05:58 AM
Nice tuck.  Thank god I don't know what that means.  You two douche bags are obsessed with numbers.  So you think that those two stat lines show Durant is better? 

You think that Durant is a top five rebounder?  You think Durant is a top five on ball defender?  You think Durant has as much help side defensive presence?


Kevin Durant is a much better one on one player.  Kevin Durant is a much better perimeter shooter.  Kevin Durant is more skilled with the ball in his hands.  There is a reason the guy has won the scoring tile th last three years. 


Not sure why I am still debating with guys who tried to argue that the thunder don't have a superior supporting cast. 

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 07, 2012, 09:54:31 AM
Blind squirrel, dog's ass and whatnot.

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8011587/lebron-being-lebron

Nevertheless, Thunder Up.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on June 07, 2012, 10:18:34 AM
Blind squirrel, dog's ass and whatnot.

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8011587/lebron-being-lebron

Nevertheless, Thunder Up.

Poor Lebron, dude just can't catch a break.  Maybe one day he'll get lucky and go to a team that actually has some good players that can help him out.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 07, 2012, 10:54:34 AM
Nice tuck.  Thank god I don't know what that means.  You two douche bags are obsessed with numbers.  So you think that those two stat lines show Durant is better? 

You think that Durant is a top five rebounder?  You think Durant is a top five on ball defender?  You think Durant has as much help side defensive presence?


Kevin Durant is a much better one on one player.  Kevin Durant is a much better perimeter shooter.  Kevin Durant is more skilled with the ball in his hands.  There is a reason the guy has won the scoring tile th last three years. 


Not sure why I am still debating with guys who tried to argue that the thunder don't have a superior supporting cast.

If only the Heat could get all starting five and maybe the 6th man that are all-stars, then maybe poor Bron would have the cast he needs.  Maybe pick up Howard and Tony Parker in the offseason.

What he really needs is Luke Fucking Longley or whatever.  That guy makes a superstar look awesome.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on June 07, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
Nice tuck.  Thank god I don't know what that means.  You two douche bags are obsessed with numbers.  So you think that those two stat lines show Durant is better? 

You think that Durant is a top five rebounder?  You think Durant is a top five on ball defender?  You think Durant has as much help side defensive presence?


Kevin Durant is a much better one on one player.  Kevin Durant is a much better perimeter shooter.  Kevin Durant is more skilled with the ball in his hands.  There is a reason the guy has won the scoring tile th last three years. 


Not sure why I am still debating with guys who tried to argue that the thunder don't have a superior supporting cast.
Durant got more rebounds than LeBron this year.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsfan4life on June 07, 2012, 11:58:29 AM
Durant got more rebounds than LeBron this year.

Mongoloid McCocksack does not care about your "facts".  You're forgetting that Durant only got those rebounds because he is 6'10.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: ArkGuy on June 07, 2012, 12:14:15 PM
Yep.  Worst kind of ref.  He didn't even cost the Spurs the game really, he is just a horrible fricking ref.  He wants to be remembered after the game.  That is the worst ref possible.  The fact that everyone knows his name shows exactly how fricking shitty he is.

There was a basketball ref in the SWC - Lynn Shortnacey (sp?) (had a Eddie-like perm) - who was like that.  He had this deal when he called a block on a defender he'd run up to where the "foul" was and arrive making the football offside signal but popping his hands on and off his hips while hopping to a stop on one foot.  Usually his last three steps were hops as he came to a stop.  Choreographed pretty impressively, actually.

One time at the Conference Tourney in Dallas he goes running into the crowd of players and goes into his patented schtick and he hops onto a wet spot under the goal and lands so hard on his ass the trainers had to attend to him.  Even the other refs were laughing at him. 

He didn't hop so much after that.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 07, 2012, 12:34:37 PM
Poor Lebron, dude just can't catch a break.  Maybe one day he'll get lucky and go to a team that actually has some good players that can help him out.

Who said he couldn't catch a break?  Make sure to show your work.  I'm pretty sure the article was about how irrational and ignorant his detractors constantly make themselves appear..and then you replied with the above.  Score another one for Rick Reilly, against all odds.

As to the above, he's played with two legit all-star guys in his career, and if he wins two whole games in a row, he'll have been to 3 NBA Finals in 9 years (he's already made 4 Conference Finals in the last 6), including both years he played with the two legit guys.  What was your point, though?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on June 07, 2012, 12:47:19 PM

As to the above, he's played with two legit all-star guys in his career, and if he wins two whole games in a row, he'll have been to 3 NBA Finals in 9 years (he's already made 4 Conference Finals in the last 6), including both years he played with the two legit guys.  What was your point, though?

Just that he's so picked on.  Maybe his next team will have some decent players on it though.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 07, 2012, 01:02:06 PM
Just that he's so picked on.  Maybe his next team will have some decent players on it though.

So, you're just going to argue with yourself, then?  Enjoy.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on June 07, 2012, 01:18:19 PM
So, you're just going to argue with yourself, then?  Enjoy.

I don't know why you think I'm arguing with anybody.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 07, 2012, 02:32:20 PM
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/306936_4175104339465_1316120087_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 07, 2012, 05:40:52 PM
I'm sure it has been discussed elsewhere but Derek Fisher has had a great career. He is looking at ring #6 I believe.

His high school career is just a bit before my time. I remember him playing at UALR but that is it.

Was he lightly recruited?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 07, 2012, 08:30:04 PM
Lebron on pace for 60. He's playing amazingly right now
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Splurge on June 07, 2012, 09:49:43 PM
I'm sure it has been discussed elsewhere but Derek Fisher has had a great career. He is looking at ring #6 I believe.

His high school career is just a bit before my time. I remember him playing at UALR but that is it.

Was he lightly recruited?

Very.  He really wasn't that great in high school (he's my class).  I remember we were all shocked watching the draft when he got selected. 

He's done very well for himself.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 07, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Lebron on pace for 60. He's playing amazingly right now

Well at least maybe for one game people will get off his ass
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Clark on June 07, 2012, 10:12:58 PM
Very.  He really wasn't that great in high school (he's my class).  I remember we were all shocked watching the draft when he got selected. 

He's done very well for himself.
Wtf are you talking about? You never played against him.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 07, 2012, 10:19:23 PM
So is 45-15-5 good?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Ty Webb on June 07, 2012, 11:12:02 PM
So is 45-15-5 good?
5-9 on FTs does suck.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 07, 2012, 11:21:44 PM
So is 45-15-5 good?

acceptable... ;D
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 07, 2012, 11:43:06 PM
acceptable... ;D


Word.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Arkansas Proud on June 08, 2012, 08:24:01 AM
Very.  He really wasn't that great in high school (he's my class).  I remember we were all shocked watching the draft when he got selected. 

He's done very well for himself.

He was on perhaps the best high school team this state has ever seen, so I can see how a true point guard could get lost a little passing to 4 other D-I players.

The Parkview-Russellville game was about like LeBron taking on the Spurs in the NBA finals 5 years ago.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2012, 08:45:51 PM
Few more foul calls on Boston please.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2012, 10:00:44 PM
Zero fouls on James in this one...  Zero.  Every other starter, for either team, has at least two, but James has Zero.  This picture from this game sums it up.  It isn't to say that Boston would have won, but this is pretty typical.  That is why him fouling out was so shocking.  They hardly EVER call fouls on him, even when it is pretty obvious.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 09, 2012, 10:10:28 PM
Hogs you bitch about officiating all the time.  Does any official in any sport do s decent job?
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 09, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Lets go thunder!!!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2012, 10:20:28 PM
Hogs you bitch about officiating all the time.  Does any official in any sport do s decent job?

Not usually, even when it benefits the Hogs.  Too often, the home team or 'favored' players get the majority of the calls.  Happens all the time and really shouldn't be part of the game.  Granted, the NBA has already had one official say he bet on games, so it probably wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that more do as well.  The NBA has one of the more corrupt officiating systems in any pro sports.  This game, the Heat were going to win anyway, but still doesn't mean that stars don't get calls or 'no calls' that others don't.  Too much like pro-wrestling.

Even when it doesn't cost a team the game in theory, it is pretty infuriating when officials make calls that are blatantly cheating.  Just like today in our baseball game.  It probably didn't cost us the game, but that call at first in the first could not have been simply missed and I think we all know we would have gotten that call if the game was at Baum, which brings up a whole different thing.  Mistakes are one thing, but when the calls go one team's or players way over and over, that isn't a mistake.  It appears that too many people just accept it and so nothing will ever change.

The NBA is by far the worst though.  Watch a game officiated by Joey Crawford or whatever, and tell me he is trying his best to call it square and doesn't have it out for some teams or players. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 09, 2012, 10:26:44 PM
Home teams in basketball get all the calls.  Stars even more...it fucking sucks but professional ball is the worst
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 09, 2012, 10:28:50 PM
Home teams in basketball get all the calls.  Stars even more...it fucking sucks but professional ball is the worst

Exactly.  The NBA often leaves me wondering if I just watch a staged production or a fair athletic competition.  Not saying this game in specific, but in general, the NBA is right on the border of being staged.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: uagrad89 on June 09, 2012, 11:17:44 PM
Does any official in any sport do s decent job?

The NHL. Best officials of any sport, pro or college, anywhere. It's not even close.
Title: Re: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 09, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
Not saying this game in specific, but in general, the NBA is right on the border of being staged.

Wow.
Title: Re: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 10, 2012, 12:58:47 AM
Wow.

You think giving one team a huge advantage, depending on how many 'stars' that team has isn't borderline staged?  When you go into a competition and the outcome is already slanted in favor of one team before the game starts, that is borderline staged. 

The NBA is getting to be like boxing. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: chittlins on June 10, 2012, 01:03:41 AM
The NBA is horrible for favoring certain players and them getting calls.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pumpkin Escobar on June 10, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
The NBA is horrible for favoring certain players and them getting calls.
 

Maybe, but they didn't magically subtract 20 points off the Heat's score and hand the victory to the Celtics like it was boxing or some olympics bs. Celtics missed plenty of wide open shots so they should be looking at themselves not the refs. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Tusk till Dawn on June 10, 2012, 01:39:05 AM
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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 10, 2012, 06:16:17 AM
At least the officials did better than the 3 blind mice of the Pac v Bradley fight
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 10, 2012, 08:33:40 AM
At least the officials did better than the 3 blind mice of the Pac v Bradley fight

Just watched otl, and they said it was embarrassingly poor
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 10, 2012, 09:09:28 AM
The NBA is horrible for favoring certain players and them getting calls.

NFL Quarterbacks.  Randy Moss amassed half his yardage by throwing up his hands during a route after NOT catching the ball and getting an interference call. No one tinkers with the rules, year after year, to push a certain agenda more then the NFL.

The fate of entire continental PRIDE rides on matches during the World Cup.  The most famous goal in Copa history was made by Diego Maradona's hand.

MLB?  Get serious.  Every play features a judgement call.  EVERY PLAY.  You don't think certain guys get the benefit of a personal strike zone from an ump that they see 150 times a year.  You don't think MLB has had an agenda to promote certain teams and certain players?

I watched the last 10 minutes of that game last night.  The Heat wanted it more.  Boston wanted it plenty, but other than  Rondo outrunning James for that loose ball near the end, the Heat had the younger legs.  KG got a post feed about as beautiful as I have ever seen down low with one guy to turn around and shoot over - you couldn't ask for a better set up on a shot for a big man.  He turned, he shot......

Clang.  Brick.

The Heat earned their way to that Finals. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 10, 2012, 12:22:24 PM
NFL Quarterbacks.  Randy Moss amassed half his yardage by throwing up his hands during a route after NOT catching the ball and getting an interference call. No one tinkers with the rules, year after year, to push a certain agenda more then the NFL.

The fate of entire continental PRIDE rides on matches during the World Cup.  The most famous goal in Copa history was made by Diego Maradona's hand.

MLB?  Get serious.  Every play features a judgement call.  EVERY PLAY.  You don't think certain guys get the benefit of a personal strike zone from an ump that they see 150 times a year.  You don't think MLB has had an agenda to promote certain teams and certain players?

I watched the last 10 minutes of that game last night.  The Heat wanted it more.  Boston wanted it plenty, but other than  Rondo outrunning James for that loose ball near the end, the Heat had the younger legs.  KG got a post feed about as beautiful as I have ever seen down low with one guy to turn around and shoot over - you couldn't ask for a better set up on a shot for a big man.  He turned, he shot......

Clang.  Brick.

The Heat earned their way to that Finals.

No doubt, if anything, the officials helped it go to 7 games.  That is my point, for too often, the officials seem to have an agenda, whether to extend a series or have one team get the benefit of the calls.  Think Game 6 of the Sac/LAL series.  Lebron fouls out of that earlier game.  That has NEVER happened and that game really helps to salvage a possibility of winning for Boston.  Big ratings. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 10, 2012, 12:30:30 PM
Bad calls happen. 

PHX getting screwed in that series against, I think the Spurs, years ago is all the proof you need.

Refs make mistakes and they are human.  In our society where apparently NO ONE can EVER be wrong on anything (the Politics and Religion board is proof to that) - well, you get that same attitude from the Pro League and Referee front offices.  We've had an SEC ref on this board before - I've seen him argue to the ends of the Earth to defend a bad call by another SEC ref.

TV Networks, who invest a ton of money, probably do have an agenda when it comes to getting series to last longer and for starpower treatment.  I'm sure the leagues, who happily take that money, understand that.  aMm rolls downhill and everyone down the line with any sense gets what everyone upstream wants.  I don't know if that is any kind of conspiracy though.  I'd call it Life and Business. 

It happens in every organization on this planet. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 10, 2012, 12:49:15 PM
Bad calls happen. 

PHX getting screwed in that series against, I think the Spurs, years ago is all the proof you need.

Refs make mistakes and they are human.  In our society where apparently NO ONE can EVER be wrong on anything (the Politics and Religion board is proof to that) - well, you get that same attitude from the Pro League and Referee front offices.  We've had an SEC ref on this board before - I've seen him argue to the ends of the Earth to defend a bad call by another SEC ref.

TV Networks, who invest a ton of money, probably do have an agenda when it comes to getting series to last longer and for starpower treatment.  I'm sure the leagues, who happily take that money, understand that.  aMm rolls downhill and everyone down the line with any sense gets what everyone upstream wants.  I don't know if that is any kind of conspiracy though.  I'd call it Life and Business. 

It happens in every organization on this planet.

Mistakes happen, when there is a string of mistakes that benefit one team over an other, I think they cease to become 'mistakes'.  Isolated bad calls are certainly human and I don't really fault a ref, unless it is REALLY obvious, then I just feel he should find another job since that one isn't working out so well.  In our game against Florida a few years ago, that was cheating.  Blatant, obvious cheating.  Was it some grand conspiracy to get Florida the win?  I don't know, but that was cheating, not just bad calls. 

I think the NBA is the worst.  There have been several games/whole series that the refs completely changed.  What if the refs allowed SAC to win that game/series and they went to the finals instead of LAL.  Do they win a title and become a power in the NBA?  Who knows, but absolutely, the refs changed that series.  They completely changed that Suns/Spurs series as well.  There have been others too.  A few years ago the Timberwolves (I think) and LAL.  Shaq gets his 6th foul.  It was even called.  Once the refs realized it was his 6th, it magically gets waived off.  Completely mind blowing.  I think the wolves would have won that series if not for that and it was absolutely applying teh rules based on WHO it involved, not just the rules.  That is staged/cheating and it happens a lot in the NBA.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Animal on June 10, 2012, 01:11:14 PM
I guess I'm more tolerable of the NFL and more respectful of MLB officiating...those two sports have a very difficult challenge of making judgement calls. Fundamentally NBA officials tend to let shit go and that bothers me way more than a ref not calling holding 45 times a game.
Title: The NBA
Post by: 501 Boyz on June 10, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
 More that likely you are  trusting a older male with failing eyesight to run up and down the court to call fouls.  Some of the refs wee around when I was a kid 20 years ago.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 10, 2012, 02:40:41 PM
More that likely you are  trusting a older male with failing eyesight to run up and down the court to call fouls.  Some of the refs wee around when I was a kid 20 years ago.
Absolute agreement with this.
The professional sports leagues need to institute two major changes to their refs and I think it would solve almost all doubt.

Instead of hiring good old boys from the judge and executive network, hire athletes.  They can be former pro players or guys who simply didn't make it all the way.  You can find the required number of intelligent former athletes.   Pay them to be full time refs - clinics and training in the offseason, camps, whatever.   The ref today cannot keep up with the action of the game and makes anticipation calls. 

Second, let every call be subject to a very very very quick replay by an official (this is where you can put the older, wiser guy) at the monitor.  Every call.  Every call stops play anyway and in that span of 30 seconds or so, a good ref can fix a bad PI call or a bad personal foul or whatever.   The technology even exists to do this instantaneously with strikes and balls, if you wish.  If the call is egregiously bad, then the replay guy should be able to buzz down and get it waved off or corrected. 

Of course, refs have just as big of egos as everyone else.  Ed Hochuli, that little bastard Penn Wagers, etc.  They think you're their for THEM.  This would have to be corrected and those that don't want to play by the new, sensible rules... well... bye. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 10, 2012, 02:48:38 PM
They can be former pro players or guys who simply didn't make it all the way.   

I used to think this was a good idea but no longer.

There might be a grudge from former playing days that may cloud their judgment.

Then again I don't think Marc Curles or Penn Wagers ever played against the Razorbacks but they seem to have it out for us.

As an aside Penn Wagers takes phone calls on a local sports radio call in show every Wednesday of the football season here in Charleston. They cut me off 10 seconds into my rant to him after the Auburn game a few years ago.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 10, 2012, 02:51:37 PM
Ex players would feel pressure from current players to get the call right. 

The current crop of referees are guys who do not share anything in common with the modern athlete and I suspect are jealous of the attention and riches they receive. 
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Death By Sooiecide on June 10, 2012, 02:52:23 PM
Ex players would feel pressure from current players to get the call right. 

The current crop of referees are guys who do not share anything in common with the modern athlete and I suspect are jealous of the attention and riches they receive.
Fair points.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 10, 2012, 05:37:29 PM
You could almost have the 'ref' be in a box somewhere, with 50 angles to TV's and such.  The people on the field could mostly call stuff away from the ball and communicate what the actual call is.  I think being 'away' from the action would help with the home cooking some.  I have always thought instant replay should be in a booth in the middle of nowhere and they handle ALL reviews for all games.  That way, the home crowd doesn't influence the call.  As well, don't fucking tell the instant replay people what hte game situation is either.  Make the call based on the play, not the game situation, the home crowd and such.

The 'Human' element to the game is the participants.  I don't want the refs to be part of the game, thus, remove the human part of them.  I want players to feel pressure and make mistakes, not refs.  Refs need to get the shit right and if tech can help them, then fucking apply it.  This whole idea that bad calls are 'part of the game' was started by fucking retards.  Seriously, when I hear someone say that, it is a clear indication that they are fucking retarded and should be dealt with as such.  Hand them a helmet and give them a pet rock to play with.  That is what they need to be doing instead of trying to convince people that blown calls are 'part of the game'.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on June 11, 2012, 02:12:32 PM
Reports coming out that Michael Heisley has sold the Grizz to Robert Pera(34) for $350 million.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Pee on June 11, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8038389/sources-billionaire-robert-pera-agrees-purchase-memphis-grizzlies

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After two consecutive trips to the playoffs and a return to respectability in the Western Conference, Michael Heisley has found a buyer to purchase the Memphis Grizzlies, according to sources with knowledge of the owner's plans.

Sources told ESPN.com that Heisley has an agreement in principle to sell the team to communications technology magnate Robert Pera, who at 34 has a spot on Forbes' list of the 10 youngest billionaries in the world.

The purchase price is in the $350 million range, sources said. A formal announcement to publicize the agreement between the parties is expected this week, possibly as soon as later Monday, with NBA Board of Governors approval then required before Pera can be officially installed as successor to Heisley, who recently turned 75.

Sources say that Pera intends to keep the team in Memphis. The Grizzlies' lease at the FedExForum, furthermore, ties the team to the city until the year 2021, with steep financial penalties attached to breaking that lease.

In 2006, Heisley agreed to sell his 70 percent controlling stake in the Grizzlies for a reported $360 million to a consortium headlined by Christian Laettner and fellow Duke alumnus Brian Davis. That deal infamously collapsed and was followed by the controversial trade of Pau Gasol to the Lakers in February 2007. That move initially earned Heisley widespread criticism before the Grizzlies' recent turnaround. But Pera is known as a basketball fanatic in business circles and is an unquestionably more serious bidder given his financial portfolio.

The 34-year-old Northern California native is a former engineer at Apple who left the computer giant at 25 to start his own company. Today Pera owns a reported 64 percent of the Ubiquiti Networks he founded and operates the company out of Taiwan as well as San Jose. Pera speaks Chinese and Japanese and is said to play basketball four to five times per week.

Sources told ESPN.com that Pera was spotted at a Grizzlies game in March touring the team's facilities and operations and Heisley acknowledged to the Memphis Commercial Appeal in March that there was another unnamed bidder for the team along with California billionaire Larry Ellison. Heisley was quoted as saying that he halted negotiations with Ellison because the deep-pocketed Oracle founder wanted to relocate the franchise.

"We're not even considering Ellison," Heisley told the newspaper. "This team cannot be moved."

Heisley has maintained for years that -- even though he never took the Grizzlies off the market -- he hasn't been actively shopping the team. The Grizzlies were widely bashed for the Gasol deal that ultimately helped the Los Angeles Lakers win championships in 2009 and 2010, but Heisley has hushed some of the criticism during the past two seasons by signing Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol to lucrative contracts amid longstanding skepticism about his willingness to spend.

The Grizzlies suffered a disappointing first-round exit this season after blowing a 24-point lead in the fourth quarter against the Los Angeles Clippers in Game 1 and then losing Game 7. But in 2011, after the first-round upset of 61-win San Antonio, Heisley told ESPN.com: "I think, quite frankly, that we're poised to be a real factor in this league going forward."

After this season's early exit, Heisley described the Grizzlies' achievements as "miraculous" given the loss of key reserve Darrell Arthur to a torn Achilles tendon during training camp and Randolph's 37-game absence because of a torn MCL in his right knee.

The Chicago-based Heisley bought the Grizzlies in 2000 when they were located in Vancouver and moved the franchise to Memphis starting with the 2001-02 season.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 11, 2012, 03:24:07 PM
It is amazing that people keep buying these pro franchises for such high prices when all we hear about at contract time is how big of a loss all those poor owners are suffering. 

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: hogsrunwild on June 11, 2012, 04:15:02 PM
It is amazing that people keep buying these pro franchises for such high prices when all we hear about at contract time is how big of a loss all those poor owners are suffering.

They liar, they big fat liar!
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Phat_Hawg on June 11, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
It is amazing that people keep buying these pro franchises for such high prices when all we hear about at contract time is how big of a loss all those poor owners are suffering.

They are probably technically correct when they say they don't make that much year to year.  The big payoff is when they sell the franchise.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 11, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
Lots of enterprises, like movies and pro franchises don't technically make any money when you start figuring out the expenses.

The beauty is what is hidden in the "expenses" - as in exorbitant salaries for every flunky in-law and retarded stepchild who works in some dubious office with gigantic rent paid to some fuzzy LLC which in turn has fuel and airplanes all leased to something else.

If one only makes money in the sale of the team, how come so few come up for sale?  I'd think the owner of the Timberwolves or Royals or the Saints would be just ready to deal to unload that big ass weight around their neck.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 12, 2012, 12:50:13 PM
OKC in 6.

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Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 12, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Round 1: Durant.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Cerdo on June 12, 2012, 10:36:43 PM
The Heat will win the Series.

The NBA makes you put in the time and suffer heartbreaking loss more than any other league when you're a young superstar coming up. 

Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 12, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Round 1: Durant.

Right.  Now I know you're a fuckin.g basketball idiot. 

Game one thunder. 

The heat are not as good especially with bosh not 100 percent. Wade got abused by Westbrook tonight.  They are by far the better team.  The heat cannot switch everything but fuc.k they don't match up at all either.  Either way the heat have slim to no chance
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Stephen Colboar on June 12, 2012, 10:58:32 PM

I remember hearing similar talk after Games 1 & 3 last year.
People all but handing LeBron his first ring.

Some people are nuts.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 12, 2012, 11:01:46 PM
If Lebron is so good on D, why'd they match him up with Perkins most of the night. Maybe to save his energy for that 7 point explosion in the 4th. Lebron wouldn't drive on Durant for whatever reason.

I love how supporting cast is the quick excuse when it never was brought up during the regular season. Lebron is a great player, but it's pretty easy to see who had the bigger impact on Game 1.

Ok now use lots of cuss words and be tough Internet guy. Go.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Jostlyn McCocksack on June 12, 2012, 11:08:11 PM
If Lebron is so good on D, why'd they match him up with Perkins most of the night. Maybe to save his energy for that 7 point explosion in the 4th. Lebron wouldn't drive on Durant for whatever reason.

I love how supporting cast is the quick excuse when it never was brought up during the regular season. Lebron is a great player, but it's pretty easy to see who had the bigger impact on Game 1.

Ok now use lots of cuss words and be tough Internet guy. Go.


They were switching everything.....and if you can't see that the thunder are much more talented and balanced well.....that explains a lot.  Lebron was following the gameplan defensively.   Miami has no chance. 


Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Coheed & Hambria on June 12, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
OKC is deeper and play better team basketball. The general consensus around the league is that the best "Big 3" is still Miami. It's their own fault they don't have much of a bench. That's what happens when you all want near max deals and play together. Miami will still win at least a couple in this series.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Trigger7672 on June 13, 2012, 07:15:15 AM
If Lebron is so good on D, why'd they match him up with Perkins most of the night. Maybe to save his energy for that 7 point explosion in the 4th. Lebron wouldn't drive on Durant for whatever reason.

I love how supporting cast is the quick excuse when it never was brought up during the regular season. Lebron is a great player, but it's pretty easy to see who had the bigger impact on Game 1.

Ok now use lots of cuss words and be tough Internet guy. Go.

Perkins played 25 minutes and Lebron played 46. How could Lebron guard Perkins when he wasn't in the game most of the time? Perkins won't even play that much in game two, he has no one to guard in this series.
Title: Re: Re: The NBA
Post by: bigghurtt on June 13, 2012, 07:30:29 AM
If Lebron is so good on D, why'd they match him up with Perkins most of the night. Maybe to save his energy for that 7 point explosion in the 4th. Lebron wouldn't drive on Durant for whatever reason.

Is this serious?

It's hard to one-up hogsrunwild in irrational Lebron criticism, but you are clearly his superior in this area.

Lebron got in the lane against Durant at will after the first foul, which is probably why Durant didn't play him much in the 2nd.  He also defended pretty much everyone for OKC.

At least I didn't have to read any bullshit this morning about how we were robbed by the refs.
Title: Re: The NBA
Post by: Rick B. on June 13, 2012, 07:45:24 AM
Miami will still win at least a couple in this series.

Of course they will. I expect the Finals to go 6-7 games. You know, since they lost all those games at the beginning because of the walk out/strike.
Title: Re: The NBA
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