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Title: AC Repair
Post by: Veritas Arkansas on July 11, 2009, 04:05:22 PM
Need a competent AC repairman in NWA to fix a rattling, squeaking AC unit.

Anybody have any recommendations?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: RonaldCarter on July 21, 2020, 08:26:23 AM
I was about to start a new topic but after seeing this thread I had preferred replying here. I have hired  HVAC Houston (https://accompanyhouston.com/) two weeks ago for ac related issues. They had certified and experienced experts that offers all type of ac related services. So, anyone who is looking for an ac repair company they can call them.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Won Nutt Hung Lo on July 21, 2020, 08:33:38 AM
This is going to be fun.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: razorwire on July 21, 2020, 08:35:16 AM
Need a competent AC repairman in NWA to fix a rattling, squeaking AC unit.

Anybody have any recommendations?
Sounds like a job for WD-40 and a couple of bungee cords.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on July 21, 2020, 08:36:54 AM
So you hired them two weeks ago, and as a parting gift they gave you a company email that you used to register on this site. Nice.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Swahili Steve on July 21, 2020, 08:41:17 AM
Someone here on the board has an AC biz that I used a few years back and they were fantastic. Can’t think of the users name
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 09:30:25 AM
I was about to start a new topic but after seeing this thread I had preferred replying here. I have hired  HVAC Houston two weeks ago for ac related issues. They had certified and experienced experts that offers all type of ac related services. So, anyone who is looking for an ac repair company they can call them.

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Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 09:31:56 AM
Someone here on the board has an AC biz that I used a few years back and they were fantastic. Can’t think of the users name

Maybe gibraltar - he's helped out quite few on here

If anyone needs commercial AC repairs in any Texas metro area, let me know. You won't get a cheap price but you will get top notch service.
Title: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 09:55:27 AM
Maybe gibraltar - he's helped out quite few on here

If anyone needs commercial AC repairs in any Texas metro area, let me know. You won't get a cheap price but you will get top notch service.

I might be in the market.  We have 3 AC units and the largest one is like 20+ years old.  Having a $700-900 electric bill has caused us to think maybe it needs replacing.  Also the thermostats aren’t likely reading correctly in some rooms so we have them all adjusted wonky like 83 here, 76 there and one that reads 28F/0C all the time so it doesn’t ever kick on.

I see stuff online for like $7000 to replace one, is that a reasonable price?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 10:05:25 AM
If you are replacing all 3 then prepare thy butthole for a $25K or more fucking.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 10:18:23 AM
If you are replacing all 3 then prepare thy butthole for a $25K or more fucking.

Just the one largest one likely. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 10:31:45 AM
I might be in the market.  We have 3 AC units and the largest one is like 20+ years old.  Having a $700-900 electric bill has caused us to think maybe it needs replacing.  Also the thermostats aren’t likely reading correctly in some rooms so we have them all adjusted wonky like 83 here, 76 there and one that reads 28F/0C all the time so it doesn’t ever kick on.

I see stuff online for like $7000 to replace one, is that a reasonable price?

We do commercial work so our rates are twice what you would typically pay for residential service. I don't even call our guys for service at our house - I use these guys https://www.colonyac.com/

If you could get a good company and a good unit, $7k seems like a very reasonable price but I am guessing that is for a builders grade unit and the perfect install situation. You are probably going to be quoted closer to $10k per.

Materials cost for the 4 ton 16 Seer Trane split system we put in a few years back at our place was about $3000. I paid one of our  techs $1000 cash and helped him with the install.




Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 10:37:40 AM
I might be in the market.  We have 3 AC units and the largest one is like 20+ years old.  Having a $700-900 electric bill has caused us to think maybe it needs replacing.  Also the thermostats aren’t likely reading correctly in some rooms so we have them all adjusted wonky like 83 here, 76 there and one that reads 28F/0C all the time so it doesn’t ever kick on.

I see stuff online for like $7000 to replace one, is that a reasonable price?

If you have old thermostats, replacing them is easy and cheap. I got a honeywell wifi one for around $60 that, once it was setup, has been rock solid.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 11:17:33 AM
If you have old thermostats, replacing them is easy and cheap. I got a honeywell wifi one for around $60 that, once it was setup, has been rock solid.

I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 11:30:48 AM
I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd

If you have a true zoned setup then you may have bad damper motors.  that would explain why the house doesn't cool properly.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 11:35:40 AM
If you have a true zoned setup then you may have bad damper motors.  that would explain why the house doesn't cool properly.

Maybe so.  Might call someone and get them out to have a look and get a quote.  The current big unit is like 13 seer or whatever so it is old and likely not efficient either.

Need to get a security company out too and figure out why the cameras done seem to have power
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 11:39:20 AM
I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd

All that shit is over my head. Gibraltar is still around but probably busy as shit with the heat of the summer. Maybe he can offer some advice.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 21, 2020, 11:46:18 AM
Maybe so.  Might call someone and get them out to have a look and get a quote.  The current big unit is like 13 seer or whatever so it is old and likely not efficient either.

Need to get a security company out too and figure out why the cameras done seem to have power

The owners used to be our neighbors -

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Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 11:48:52 AM
One quick note: If you have 3 units and 3 thermostats then you have zero zones.

My two story house is zoned on the first floor.  The master bedroom/bath has a thermostat and the rest of the downstairs living area has a thermostat.  Basically the downstair unit kicks on depending on which thermostat is calling for cooling/heating.  The ducts that lead to those areas have damper motors in them that open the ducts which allow the air to flow.

We have had a historical problem with one of the dampers going bad for the main living area.  When that duct does not open the other ducts/registers downstairs manage to compensate and keep the living room comfortable.  When that motor is working the living room turns into an icebox.  That is the effect a bad motor can have on the balance of an area from a cooling/heating perspective.
Title: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 11:57:04 AM
One quick note: If you have 3 units and 3 thermostats then you have zero zones.

My two story house is zoned on the first floor.  The master bedroom/bath has a thermostat and the rest of the downstairs living area has a thermostat.  Basically the downstair unit kicks on depending on which thermostat is calling for cooling/heating.  The ducts that lead to those areas have damper motors in them that open the ducts which allow the air to flow.

We have had a historical problem with one of the dampers going bad for the main living area.  When that duct does not open the other ducts/registers downstairs manage to compensate and keep the living room comfortable.  When that motor is working the living room turns into an icebox.  That is the effect a bad motor can have on the balance of an area from a cooling/heating perspective.

We have a ton of thermostats.  Downstairs: Family room, kitchen, office, M bedroom, M bath (the 28F one).  Upstairs:movie room, play room, 3 upstairs bedrooms all have one too.  Maybe more that I’m missing.

The closet in the M bath that I use is somehow tied into the thermostat in the office and gets cold as FUCK.  Like, an ice box.  Much colder than the office but it is controlled by that thermostat it seems. 
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2020, 06:13:54 PM
Just the one largest one likely.
7k is becoming a the entry level
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2020, 06:15:33 PM
I have some odd system that is all tied in together and apparently there is a central control that allows to open and close 16 zones or something.  45 years and this is my first time living in AC. 

Statnet is the current units and supposedly there is a master control unit somewhere to partition it into 16 zones.  Add in this, the odd entertainment system and the shitload of security cameras and secret rooms, this house is kinda...odd
You know that 7k...say goodbye to that shit
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 06:40:36 PM
You know that 7k...say goodbye to that shit


So like 10k?  Just a ballpark figure is all I'm looking for.  I plan to be in this house for 20 years or more, so replacing it with a new, higher efficiency one should be a good investment.  Will give peace of mind and should save some money on electric bills each month?



Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
We have a ton of thermostats.  Downstairs: Family room, kitchen, office, M bedroom, M bath (the 28F one).  Upstairs:movie room, play room, 3 upstairs bedrooms all have one too.  Maybe more that I’m missing.

The closet in the M bath that I use is somehow tied into the thermostat in the office and gets cold as FUCK.  Like, an ice box.  Much colder than the office but it is controlled by that thermostat it seems. 

Jesus.  What did you buy?  I picture a mansion made out of double wides. Sure you're not counting window units?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2020, 07:26:12 PM

So like 10k?  Just a ballpark figure is all I'm looking for.  I plan to be in this house for 20 years or more, so replacing it with a new, higher efficiency one should be a good investment.  Will give peace of mind and should save some money on electric bills each month?
Really depends on how in-depth the zone system gets in terms of problems. Mostly they are a shit show if it's all that old. In general there isn't nearly enough information to give a "guy on the internet said" kind of price.

A lot of these dealers are going to recommend the high end inverter system with the variable speed indoor for zoned equipment...that's 15k and up. And then they will also sell you a new zone controller and dampers...

I would absolutely find you a company that knows zones. Personally I'm anti zone...I'd rather size and design the system right instead of supposedly saving on energy costs on zones that break often.

If you are truly spending 800 a month on electric...you need to run to a good dealer. Surely someone can find out why. You might have strip heat coming in with the AC for example...it happens.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 07:35:32 PM
Jesus.  What did you buy?  I picture a mansion made out of double wides. Sure you're not counting window units?


It looks just like the William J Clinton Library...


3 AC units (outside ones) and a shitload of thermostats/zones it seems.  I looked at the inspection report and it does list that some/a few of the zone dampers or whatever aren't working.  That for sure needs to get fixed and I'm thinking the big unit that serves most of the downstairs should get replaced (20+ years old).  It is like 13 Seer which apparently is not very good.


Houses are confusing.  I had hot water issues and couldn't figure out WTF was going on as part of the house had wonderful, instant hot water (had one of those recirc things) and other parts were barely warm.  Thought I only had two water heaters, found out there was a third one hiding that had a temperature limiter that was somehow tied into a switch in the master bath for 'safety'.  Took like a week of troubleshooting to figure that shit out.  Guess they had kids or old people are something and didn't want actual hot water.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 21, 2020, 08:06:56 PM
It’s easy to replace dampers. YouTube it. Honeywell makes the dampers.

We have two hot water tanks and one went out a few years ago. Didn’t realize it until the second one went out.

Owning big homes can be a pita.  We still own our first home; 3 bed/2 bath, 2100 sq ft. House is awesome. So little to go wrong. The AC unit in it is 20 years old and still performs great.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 21, 2020, 08:13:56 PM
Will have to look.  The issue is that I have no idea where all of them are or which ones are working.  I might as well just let the AC guy do it unless it is super obvious.  I don't even know where to control them. Still trying to figure things out.  There is one secret room and I'm convinced there are more.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: porksamich on July 22, 2020, 10:40:17 PM
I just had my entire unit replaced for $4500. That’s the inside unit with gas furnace, 4 ton outside unit, and new thermostat. Y’all getting raped.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on July 23, 2020, 09:37:49 AM
my old house had a dual zone system - upstairs and downstairs running off one unit.  the dampers in the zone system are designed to operate off of each thermostat.  the thermostats kick on and call the system to divert air/heat to that area, thus flipping the dampers.  I had issues over the years where the dampers were not working correctly, had many a service calls where the zones had to be fixed.  i don't reccommend a zone system.  if you've got it, you've got it. 

hrw, i can't imagine a house with that many zones.  even with 3 units you may not have large enough units to push the amount of air you need, therefore your systems are running 24/7, resulting in an $800 electric bill.  the only way you can fix the # of zones would be to have all of the duct work redone and the zone dampers removed.  I'd think the optimal thing for you would be to scrap the zone/damper system and have 3 units each running a separate area of your house.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 23, 2020, 09:45:38 AM
I’ll call someone and have them have a look and see what’s the best thing to do within a budget of course
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: 1st_down_streak on July 23, 2020, 10:28:11 AM
I just had my entire unit replaced for $4500. That’s the inside unit with gas furnace, 4 ton outside unit, and new thermostat. Y’all getting raped.

If you have a single story home with good attic access and no need for a new line set or new duct work and find a small shop with low overhead, I could see that price.

Dealer cost for our 4 ton 16 seer Trane split system and accouterments such as plenum box, dampers, new pad etc was $3000. Any shop is going to mark that up about 25-40% so that's +/- $3800.

Then it is just a matter of labor - probably a 10-16 hours between 2 guys so, assuming a low $40/hr rate, that's $500.   

Sales tax is going to add at least another $275-300 even the installer is paying it on their cost.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: porksamich on July 23, 2020, 12:20:14 PM
If you have a single story home with good attic access and no need for a new line set or new duct work and find a small shop with low overhead, I could see that price.

Dealer cost for our 4 ton 16 seer Trane split system and accouterments such as plenum box, dampers, new pad etc was $3000. Any shop is going to mark that up about 25-40% so that's +/- $3800.

Then it is just a matter of labor - probably a 10-16 hours between 2 guys so, assuming a low $40/hr rate, that's $500.   

Sales tax is going to add at least another $275-300 even the installer is paying it on their cost.

You nailed it. Single story, existing line sets, no new duct work. Inside unit easily located in hallway. 9 hr job.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: TexZilla on July 25, 2020, 06:43:52 AM
I’ll call someone and have them have a look and see what’s the best thing to do within a budget of course

In Texas you have to look at more than just an modern efficient AC system.  You should look at your insulation, radiant barriers, garage door insulation, roof venting and ridge vents, clear soffit vents, ductwork leaks, windows.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 25, 2020, 09:05:43 AM
In Texas you have to look at more than just an modern efficient AC system.  You should look at your insulation, radiant barriers, garage door insulation, roof venting and ridge vents, clear soffit vents, ductwork leaks, windows.

Fortunately, the person that has this place built seems to have cared about those things.  Unfortunately, I don’t know shit about AC and the attics are a maze so I’ll just have someone come and give it a full inspection and bite the bullet
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: bleedinred on July 25, 2020, 09:14:04 AM
Just curious, but what did the home inspector say when you went through the buying process?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on July 25, 2020, 10:08:38 AM
Just curious, but what did the home inspector say when you went through the buying process?

Said the units were in good repair but that the main unit is old and likely to need replacing soon.  He said he couldn’t tell if all the zone things were working, but suspected some were not.  The vents and insulation and everything were good. 

We did switch electric companies already and it seems to have made a difference...3-4 cents x 5-7000kW adds up. 

That makes things a little less urgent
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on August 13, 2020, 07:48:01 PM
I just recently moved into a house that I’m having a little ac problem with. I have two floors and a separate system for each. Most of the house stays very comfortable, but two rooms upstairs stay very warm and one room downstairs stays warm. I had a guy come look at it and he said the duct work was not screwed together and whatever adhesive wrap they used to wrap the joints has broken down and they are leaking. Everything with the equipment seems to be functioning properly. He is wanting to take all of the wrapped insulation off the ductwork, screw all the joints, tape the joints, re wrap the ducts, and add a return air exchange to aid with air flow.  The ducts upstairs are in the attic, downstairs ducts are in the crawl space that ranges from 60 inches to 30 inches. All this for the tidy sum of $15,000. Was wondering if this seems reasonable.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: BASS on August 13, 2020, 09:03:34 PM
I just recently moved into a house that I’m having a little ac problem with. I have two floors and a separate system for each. Most of the house stays very comfortable, but two rooms upstairs stay very warm and one room downstairs stays warm. I had a guy come look at it and he said the duct work was not screwed together and whatever adhesive wrap they used to wrap the joints has broken down and they are leaking. Everything with the equipment seems to be functioning properly. He is wanting to take all of the wrapped insulation off the ductwork, screw all the joints, tape the joints, re wrap the ducts, and add a return air exchange to aid with air flow.  The ducts upstairs are in the attic, downstairs ducts are in the crawl space that ranges from 60 inches to 30 inches. All this for the tidy sum of $15,000. Was wondering if this seems reasonable.

fuck no.  if he did all that and replaced both your units, maybe.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: CrocodileHunter on August 13, 2020, 09:12:15 PM
fuck no.  if he did all that and replaced both your units, maybe.
That’s what I was thinking. $15,000 for ductwork?  Are we talking about a 20,000 sq ft house?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: DRYANKNPULL on August 13, 2020, 10:36:36 PM
It’s nowhere near 20000 sqft. He’s not talking about replacing the duct work. Just installing screws in joints and sealing the joints in the existing duct work.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: hogsrunwild on August 13, 2020, 10:42:41 PM
It’s nowhere near 20000 sqft. He’s not talking about replacing the duct work. Just installing screws in joints and sealing the joints in the existing duct work.


Maybe he meant $1,500?  That actually sounds more realistic.
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: razorwire on August 14, 2020, 09:58:24 AM
I just had my entire unit replaced for $4500. That’s the inside unit with gas furnace, 4 ton outside unit, and new thermostat. Y’all getting raped.
Did that price include new duct work?
Title: Re: AC Repair
Post by: pigsteye on August 20, 2020, 07:22:22 PM
You nailed it. Single story, existing line sets, no new duct work. Inside unit easily located in hallway. 9 hr job.
you in NWA?