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Offline DirkPiggler

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #100 on: June 10, 2015, 04:48:27 PM »
Nobody ever made commitments and even if you do, in horse racing things can change overnight. Cella tried hard to put it all together but Rachel wasn't ready. They made a smart call. Rachel was never the same again after her brilliant 3yo season. That year I highly doubt Z woulda beat Rachel anywhere. The next year, no way Rachel coulda beat Z anywhere since she couldn't even beat lesser horses..

The bolded part is not correct.  I'm 100% certain of this. 

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #101 on: June 10, 2015, 10:00:14 PM »
Rachel had a few injuries leading up to that, and they felt it hindered her training too much to risk it.

Zenyatta would have had one Starkville of a time beating Rachel in a hypothetical race here:

The splits in this race were incredible. It was amazing that she held off the field after racing from the outside post past big drama, who was on the rail.  A torrid pace early and she was right at it and led the whole way. Just amazing.
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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #102 on: June 10, 2015, 10:02:20 PM »
The bolded part is not correct.  I'm 100% certain of this.

I can tell you... This was not the word I heard from my friend that works there who was directly involved. Oaklawn was 100% aware of Rachel's condition and the possibilities that they could pull her. It's a horse, not a car.

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #103 on: June 11, 2015, 08:10:52 AM »
I can tell you... This was not the word I heard from my friend that works there who was directly involved. Oaklawn was 100% aware of Rachel's condition and the possibilities that they could pull her. It's a horse, not a car.

No offense, but there's a better than 99% chance that your friend works for my source on this.

There is always a chance that a horse can scratch.  That's just the nature of the business.  But Oaklawn wouldn't have put the hype in motion as much as they did for that race without some assurances. 

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #104 on: June 11, 2015, 08:59:54 AM »
No offense, but there's a better than 99% chance that your friend works for my source on this.

There is always a chance that a horse can scratch.  That's just the nature of the business.  But Oaklawn wouldn't have put the hype in motion as much as they did for that race without some assurances.

No, but I know who you're probably talking about. I'm not going to get petty over this, but I know a lot of folks over there including the person that was in charge of putting the "hype" in motion.
They had to start and plan some of that stuff so far in advance, they went ahead and did it on the off chance that it would happen. They absolutely knew it was likely to not happen. No one was misled and no one dodged a race. It was still awesome to watch Zenyatta run there again, though. Fact is, they had to keep everything alive for that race until the Jess Jackson camp finally said no.
They absolutely had to prepare for the possibility of a record crowd and major national attention, though. That's not done overnight.

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2015, 08:19:35 AM »
I see where American pharoah is running in the Haskell Invt. If you owned him would you retire and go to stud or keep racing and potentially break down? It's a nothing left to prove deal to me, now let's go be a high dollar pornstar!

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #106 on: July 12, 2015, 08:30:19 AM »

I see where American pharoah is running in the Haskell Invt. If you owned him would you retire and go to stud or keep racing and potentially break down? It's a nothing left to prove deal to me, now let's go be a high dollar pornstar!

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #107 on: July 12, 2015, 09:26:33 AM »
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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #108 on: July 12, 2015, 10:32:10 AM »
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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #109 on: July 12, 2015, 08:44:14 PM »
There has to be a 6 figure (maybe 7 figure) insurance policy on AP.  If he's mine, I race him at 4, hopefully win the BC Classic as his last race then turn him loose on the fillies and mares.

After Haskell, the what?? Travers or Pacific Classic plus one more before BC Classic ?

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2015, 12:12:35 PM »
Haskell, Travers, Breeders Cup Classic, retired.

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2015, 09:17:39 PM »
Didn't they sell his breeding rights?  If so, why not keep racing.

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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #112 on: July 13, 2015, 09:21:43 PM »
Didn't they sell his breeding rights?  If so, why not keep racing.

yes.  new owners don't take over until January 2016.
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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #113 on: July 13, 2015, 09:23:23 PM »
Automatic horse of century.  Perseverance, heart,
Slow your roll. Lets see him beat some older horses before you crown anymore than a very good horse who accomplished a great feat.
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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #114 on: July 13, 2015, 09:39:13 PM »
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Re: 147th Belmont Stakes
« Reply #115 on: July 13, 2015, 10:19:00 PM »
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