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Re: the band
« Reply #100 on: January 10, 2012, 01:02:50 PM »
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Re: the band
« Reply #101 on: January 10, 2012, 07:04:35 PM »
If you are a music major and you want the maximum music scholarship at the UA you have to be in marching band.

Exactly the problem.  Put them in the pit if they want to contribute there; offer them a different performing group in the fall if they don't.  Good musicians in a wind ensemble can be an impressive thing, but not on the football field.

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Re: the band
« Reply #102 on: January 10, 2012, 11:25:05 PM »
Exactly the problem.  Put them in the pit if they want to contribute there; offer them a different performing group in the fall if they don't.  Good musicians in a wind ensemble can be an impressive thing, but not on the football field.

Obviously, only bad musicians should march.

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Re: the band
« Reply #103 on: January 11, 2012, 07:50:53 AM »
Obviously, only bad musicians should march.

To clarify, I'm only saying that woodwind players should have a different performing group as an option to keep their scholarship.
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Re: the band
« Reply #104 on: January 11, 2012, 08:59:24 AM »
Gladiatorial combat between death row inmates until one is left.  Then release a pack of wild boars to finish him off.  Band plays their Journey song while the bodies are being removed.  Brought to you by Petit Jean Meats. 

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Re: the band
« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2012, 11:06:13 AM »
Gladiatorial combat between death row inmates until one is left.  Then release a pack of wild boars to finish him off.  Band plays their Journey song while the bodies are being removed.  Brought to you by Petit Jean Meats.
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Re: the band
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2012, 11:25:17 AM »
Gladiatorial combat between death row inmates until one is left.  Then release a pack of wild boars to finish him off.  Band plays their Journey song while the bodies are being removed.  Brought to you by Petit Jean Meats.

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Re: the band
« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2012, 11:28:11 AM »
To clarify, I'm only saying that woodwind players should have a different performing group as an option to keep their scholarship.

Yeah, yeah. I know what you meant.

I still think they'd be better served to just eliminate the marching band requirement from scholarships, limit the band to 250 with only brass and percussion, increase remaining band scholarships, and maybe give more than 1 hour of credit per semester.  I think making the whole thing more selective/competitive would do nothing but good.  Ohio State's band wasn't nearly as big as ours in the Sugar Bowl, but they were a lot better at what they do. 

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Re: the band
« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2012, 12:54:39 PM »
Gladiatorial combat between death row inmates until one is left.  Then release a pack of wild boars to finish him off.  Band plays their Journey song while the bodies are being removed.  Brought to you by Petit Jean Meats.


Wow, and I was holding out for midget wrasslin' or clunker car halftime.

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Re: the band
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2012, 01:04:54 PM »

I still think they'd be better served to just eliminate the marching band requirement from scholarships, limit the band to 250 with only brass and percussion, increase remaining band scholarships, and maybe give more than 1 hour of credit per semester.  I think making the whole thing more selective/competitive would do nothing but good.  Ohio State's band wasn't nearly as big as ours in the Sugar Bowl, but they were a lot better at what they do.

As the father of a very good woodwind player I support this idea 100%.  My daughter would like to play in college but has no desire to be in college marching band nor do I want her to be in marching band, that stuff takes up way too much time, so she will only have access to a small scholarship.  Admittedly anything is better than nothing but $5000 would be a lot nicer to get than $200.
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Re: the band
« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2012, 02:02:43 PM »
Do all music majors aspire to teach band/music?  What other reasons are there to major in music?
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Re: the band
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2012, 02:08:25 PM »
limit the band to 250 with only brass and percussion,


My brother played clarinet (NTTAWT) in the Razorback Marching Band.  Made it through his entire senior year without playing a single note  - not rehearsal, not at pep rallys, not at games.  He doesn't think he was missed.
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Re: the band
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2012, 02:11:57 PM »
Do all music majors aspire to teach band/music?  What other reasons are there to major in music?

I started off a music major, but I wanted to play in one of the "big time" orchestras.  Give me a break, I was 18.  Once I realized I didn't want to be a band director, I quickly changed career paths.  But yes, there are PLENTY of music performance majors. 

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« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2012, 02:12:47 PM »
My brother played clarinet (NTTAWT) in the Razorback Marching Band.  Made it through his entire senior year without playing a single note  - not rehearsal, not at pep rallys, not at games.  He doesn't think he was missed.

Sounds about right.

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Re: the band
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2012, 02:56:54 PM »
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Re: the band
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2012, 03:03:19 PM »
As the father of a very good woodwind player I support this idea 100%.  My daughter would like to play in college but has no desire to be in college marching band nor do I want her to be in marching band, that stuff takes up way too much time, so she will only have access to a small scholarship.  Admittedly anything is better than nothing but $5000 would be a lot nicer to get than $200.

Well, she had better buy some walking shoes.  No way I could pass up that big a scholarship.  There should be an alternative though, no wonder our marching band sucks, the kids don't want to be there.  Do we not have some sort of performing orchestra they could be a part of?  Mandatory concerts once or twice a month on weekends in Fayetteville would be tits.  Give the students tokens to go to the performance just like they do sports.  It would be nice to have a live orchestra, if we don't already have one.

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Re: the band
« Reply #116 on: January 11, 2012, 03:21:44 PM »
Well, she had better buy some walking shoes.  No way I could pass up that big a scholarship.  There should be an alternative though, no wonder our marching band sucks, the kids don't want to be there.  Do we not have some sort of performing orchestra they could be a part of?  Mandatory concerts once or twice a month on weekends in Fayetteville would be tits.  Give the students tokens to go to the performance just like they do sports.  It would be nice to have a live orchestra, if we don't already have one.

We used to, I think.  I know we had one under W Dale Warren that played at graduations.

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Re: the band
« Reply #117 on: January 11, 2012, 04:00:38 PM »
We have 4 "concert bands." Wind Symphony, Symphonic Band, Concert Band, Campus Band. 

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The four University of Arkansas concert bands each consist of 60-70 musicians. Each ensemble is held to the highest standard of performance. Feel free to visit the individual ensemble pages for more specific details.

You can get a music scholarship and NOT have to march (vocalists, pianists, strings, etc).  You could PROBABLY get one as a "band" instrument person, too, just not as much as you would by marching?  Heck, I don't know.  I was just excited to get my school paid for to care all that much.  The majorettes were hot.

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Re: the band
« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2012, 04:14:36 PM »
You look at LSU Golden whores then look at the cattle in our band and you just want to cry.

I think you have to make a choice, the A team can be way down on the field doing the flag routine at football games or they can be doing the halftime shows at the basketball games.  If this was a choice that had to be made, the U of A made the right one.

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Re: the band
« Reply #119 on: January 11, 2012, 04:54:26 PM »
We have 4 "concert bands." Wind Symphony, Symphonic Band, Concert Band, Campus Band. 

You can get a music scholarship and NOT have to march (vocalists, pianists, strings, etc).  You could PROBABLY get one as a "band" instrument person, too, just not as much as you would by marching?  Heck, I don't know.  I was just excited to get my school paid for to care all that much.  The majorettes were hot.

If you want the max scholarship you have to be in marching band.  If you're a pianist, string, etc you go into the pit. 
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Re: the band
« Reply #120 on: January 11, 2012, 04:55:56 PM »
So much misinformation in this thread. 

There is a UofA Orchestra.

Not all music majors are in marching band, some of them that are in the top performing ensembles can opt out of it.  Usually scholarship requirements for majors have a large ensemble and a small ensemble clause per semester.  Non major scholarships vary from school to school. 

The irony is for the most part music scholarships exist for the desire to have a bigger band to please the crowd.  Like it or not, without football music scholarships would be drastically reduced.  Choir and orchestra scholarships are there pretty much because the marching band exists and the music department has to be fair and equitable, but in no other department besides athletics does the scholarship money flow so freely.  Why, because the original desire of schools to outdo each other at halftime.  That's where it all began.

Some kids love marching and can't play.  Some kids hate marching because they feel it's beneath their level.  Some just like being a part of an organization.  There's all types.

Those that are saying go "DCI" that's what they have done except keep the woodwinds in.  Go "DCI" and you will have an equal number of male and female colorguard members.  You are also going to have one show that is so musically over people's heads that they don't care (even more that they don't care now).

I tell all people who are going to music majors that you better have some desire to teach and get that ed degree because the other isn't going to pay the bills.  A very limited number of performance or composition majors ever make a living off of performing or composing music.  They have day jobs.  You can play with a music ed degree but you can do nothing put play and flip burgers with that performance degree.

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Re: the band
« Reply #121 on: January 11, 2012, 07:55:44 PM »

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Re: the band
« Reply #122 on: January 11, 2012, 08:10:31 PM »
Do all music majors aspire to teach band/music?  What other reasons are there to major in music?
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Re: the band
« Reply #123 on: January 11, 2012, 08:15:57 PM »
Gladiatorial combat between death row inmates until one is left.  Then release a pack of wild boars to finish him off.  Band plays their Journey song while the bodies are being removed.  Brought to you by Petit Jean Meats.

Even better than the A&M band right there.

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« Reply #124 on: January 11, 2012, 08:17:39 PM »
My brother played clarinet (NTTAWT) in the Razorback Marching Band.  Made it through his entire senior year without playing a single note  - not rehearsal, not at pep rallys, not at games.  He doesn't think he was missed.

Imagine if all of them did that on the same day.  That would be awesome.

 

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