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Re: the band
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2012, 12:30:33 PM »
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And, like I said, A&M does the same show every year for every game.  THE HORROR!

You have many valid observations about the state and direction of the Razorback band, but you are dead wrong about the Aggies.

Dale Warren's responsible for dropping the "WE'RE GONNA BEAT THE Starkville OUT OF YOU!!!" from the over-played Rock 'N' Roll, Pt. 2 adaptation that still, inexplicably, hasn't made it's way back.  He was also the director when that band CD came out with the awhooo hog call on it.  So whatever good Warren may have done has been far outweighed by those two stains on Razorback fandom.

Game presentation at RRS this year was much improved, but the Razorback Band remains a huge drag on modernizing the game experience.  ArkGuy summarized it very well: It's a complete lack of imagination.  Sure, Seven nation Army came out about 8 years ago, but that's still in infancy by Razorback Band standards. 

Hey, Baby.  AYFSM?  That song was a retread when the band picked it up after that fricking Dirty Dancing movie came out 25 years ago.  But, THEY'RE STILL PLAYING IT. 

That NFL Today Theme was discontinued by CBS 25+ years ago, but the Razorback Band STILL PLAYS IT.  They play William Tell at the same point in every game instead of using it to rev up the crowd in key moments the way Robken did. 

They do that bit with the 2001 theme and the Arkansas flag at the start of every fourth quarter.

These are not traditions.  These are evidence of laziness in leadership.

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Re: the band
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2012, 12:46:16 PM »
This is what band gekes don't get. People in the stands don't care about the difficulty of the music or the marching, they just want to be able to hear the music and be entertained. A&M's style of marching may BE easy, but it looks hard, looks cool and is visually awesome. Ours looks like a 3 year old drew it up and could do it. The music we play may be difficult to play, but if half the stadium can't hear it, then who cares? We might have the best flute players in the world, but how does that translate to a marching band? A BIGGER band doesn't mean it's a BETTER band.

The Rice MOB isn't for everybody, but they are funny, and they are entertaining. Personally, I'd rather have that than our stale old crap.

But...if I were running the band program, I'd go all in for the SWAC style. Now THAT'S entertainment!
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Re: the band
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2012, 01:00:47 PM »
Drum and bugle corps.  That is what we need.  350 strong.  That would fricking rock the house.  None of those puthy little wind things that don't make any good sound.  Just loud and fired up.

I think 350 would be too big to look cool.  Part of DCI's lure, to me, is that there's so much movement going on.  Ohio State last year was probably about 200 kids and they were awesome. 

For those that don't know what the frick we're talking about, this is from the 2011 DCI World Championships.  Obviously you could erase the theatrics that these guys use (lots of props/costumes/etc, because it's truly a show).  Fast forward to 9:58 or so and watch til the end.


You give me a college band that would do THAT kind of stuff. 

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Re: the band
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2012, 01:11:33 PM »
You have many valid observations about the state and direction of the Razorback band, but you are dead wrong about the Aggies.

You're right.  I was mistaken about that.  Though, even with that said, it's still easy as frick to march military style.  Starkville, their steps alone make it easier. 

This is what band gekes don't get. People in the stands don't care about the difficulty of the music or the marching, they just want to be able to hear the music and be entertained. A&M's style of marching may BE easy, but it looks hard, looks cool and is visually awesome. Ours looks like a 3 year old drew it up and could do it. The music we play may be difficult to play, but if half the stadium can't hear it, then who cares? We might have the best flute players in the world, but how does that translate to a marching band? A BIGGER band doesn't mean it's a BETTER band.

The Rice MOB isn't for everybody, but they are funny, and they are entertaining. Personally, I'd rather have that than our stale old crap.

But...if I were running the band program, I'd go all in for the SWAC style. Now THAT'S entertainment!

You're cool.  Band gekes.  That's a nice way to increase support! Make fun of them!

But I digress.  You have a point.  I was one of very, very few high school band kids that wasn't a "nerd."  We had maybe 5 or 6 "jocks" in my school.  I was one of them.  The U of A band, when I was there, had a surprising number of athletes.  The problem is, those are the business majors that are going on to do things in the "real world."  The people who grow up and become band directors are more of the purists.  They don't know much about football.  Or basketball.  They just follow the status quo. 

That's why I say it'll take a visionary and lots of support from the music/athletic departments for anything to ever change.  Otherwise, just realize that the Razorback band, like 99% of bands in the country (high school and college) is a corps style band.  It'll probably never change to a military style band.  So you might as well shut the frick up about it.  The most drastic change they could possibly make would be a changeover to DCI style.  DCI is very well respected.  Military is kinda frowned upon by those purists, as far as I know at least. 

I also wonder how many of the bands few supporters would be pissed if anything ever changed or if traditions were altered.  Maybe one of you high rollers can offer up a bounty for some change.  frick. I don't know. 

This is why these threads are always so pointless.  Nothing's ever going to change.  Or, at least, we won't be the first to do it.  Someone like Ole Miss will just say frick it one of these days and go DCI.  Everyone will love it and we'll follow suit 10 years later. 


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Re: the band
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2012, 01:25:33 PM »
Nobody cares about the nuance of band music.  The band is playing in an open-air stadium with 76k people in it.  Any subtlety you hope to convey is going to be wasted. 

I think our band could scrap most of the winds section and nobody would care or notice.

The really memorable fight songs are very heavy on trumpet/trombone and they blast that aMm at you.  Unless you are sitting within 50 feet of the band, you can't hear anything but the horns anyway.

My main problem with our band, though, is its lack of originality.  We play Darth Vader.  We play the most generic 1st down fanfare available.  We don't do anything remotely original or unique.  Not a single fricking thing apart from the fight song.  It doesn't have to be something complicated.

Even South Carolina has band cheers that are uniquely theirs.



I wish we had someone in charge who could do something that simple.
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Re: the band
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2012, 01:26:41 PM »
You're right.  I was mistaken about that.  Though, even with that said, it's still easy as frick to march military style.  Starkville, their steps alone make it easier. 

You're cool.  Band gekes.  That's a nice way to increase support! Make fun of them!

But I digress.  You have a point.  I was one of very, very few high school band kids that wasn't a "nerd."  We had maybe 5 or 6 "jocks" in my school.  I was one of them.  The U of A band, when I was there, had a surprising number of athletes.  The problem is, those are the business majors that are going on to do things in the "real world."  The people who grow up and become band directors are more of the purists.  They don't know much about football.  Or basketball.  They just follow the status quo. 

That's why I say it'll take a visionary and lots of support from the music/athletic departments for anything to ever change.  Otherwise, just realize that the Razorback band, like 99% of bands in the country (high school and college) is a corps style band.  It'll probably never change to a military style band.  So you might as well shut the frick up about it.  The most drastic change they could possibly make would be a changeover to DCI style.  DCI is very well respected.  Military is kinda frowned upon by those purists, as far as I know at least. 

I also wonder how many of the bands few supporters would be pissed if anything ever changed or if traditions were altered.  Maybe one of you high rollers can offer up a bounty for some change.  frick. I don't know. 

This is why these threads are always so pointless.  Nothing's ever going to change.  Or, at least, we won't be the first to do it.  Someone like Ole Miss will just say frick it one of these days and go DCI.  Everyone will love it and we'll follow suit 10 years later.

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Re: the band
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2012, 01:27:43 PM »
And everybody knows who this is without looking:

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Re: the band
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2012, 01:31:13 PM »
And this: 

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Re: the band
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2012, 01:32:42 PM »
Another one that is great:

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Re: the band
« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2012, 02:07:59 PM »
Did you just rinse it out and pass it to the next guy?

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Re: the band
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2012, 03:06:26 PM »
Wisconsin. Do that.
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Re: the band
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2012, 03:17:32 PM »
Wisconsin. Do that.
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Re: the band
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2012, 03:21:34 PM »



Why is the word "trod" in the alma mater?

I mean, I know the alma mater is tradition and all, but it's like they took some lyrics, and some music, and then just put them together without trying to match either of them up.

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Re: the band
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2012, 03:39:12 PM »
Wait, now, don't be messing with my alma mater.  I can mouth almost all the words.  Don't make me start over.  And I'm old enough to remember when the alma mater wasn't played 3 hours before tip-off, like it is now, but was right after the national anthem and right before the player introductions.

Hey, Friday night during the alma mater at Jerry World, one of my brood - just three weeks removed from the UA's first winter graduation in a long time - asked me, "hey, which way is Old Main from here?"  In retrospect, I think I pointed to what is roughly Denver.
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Re: the band
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2012, 04:05:10 PM »
Wait, now, don't be messing with my alma mater.  I can mouth almost all the words.  Don't make me start over.  And I'm old enough to remember when the alma mater wasn't played 3 hours before tip-off, like it is now, but was right after the national anthem and right before the player introductions.

Hey, Friday night during the alma mater at Jerry World, one of my brood - just three weeks removed from the UA's first winter graduation in a long time - asked me, "hey, which way is Old Main from here?"  In retrospect, I think I pointed to what is roughly Denver.

Mumbling through it, saying the last line, and pointing to wherever I think Old Main is at is one tradition I would never give up lightly.

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Re: the band
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2012, 06:00:23 PM »
Mumbling through it, saying the last line, and pointing to wherever I think Old Main is at is one tradition I would never give up lightly.

I've been meaning to ask someone when this "tradition" started? I don't recall doing it or seeing it when I was in school in 76-81. I ask because everyone seems to act like it's been done forever...and I'm afraid if students keep doing that damn wolf howl before the hog call, before you know it, everyone will think that's the way it's always been done as well and will become "tradition" too.
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Re: the band
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2012, 06:04:11 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2012, 06:25:21 PM »
I've been meaning to ask someone when this "tradition" started? I don't recall doing it or seeing it when I was in school in 76-81. I ask because everyone seems to act like it's been done forever...and I'm afraid if students keep doing that damn wolf howl before the hog call, before you know it, everyone will think that's the way it's always been done as well and will become "tradition" too.

We were pointing at Old Main in 1996, although for the longest time I thought we were just pointing to the sky.
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« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2012, 06:32:47 PM »
We were pointing at Old Main in 1996, although for the longest time I thought we were just pointing to the sky.

I thought he were pointing to the West side stands, because that is where I thought parents set, and we were pointing to our mothers.

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Re: the band
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2012, 06:58:19 PM »
All I know is, aMm like THIS is entertaining, and the crap our band does isn't.

And don't give me any "well yeah, but they're all black" excuses, either.  If somebody can shove Tommy Lee in a cage and spin him upside down for entertainment, somebody can surely come up with a way to get our pudgy white hillbillies to get creative with OUR drums and other instruments, too.


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Re: the band
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2012, 07:06:58 PM »
the half-time spelling of Go Hogs is awful.  I hate it more than anything.
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Re: the band
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2012, 07:22:04 PM »
frick you Robbie Robertson!
Im convinced they wouldve have been better without him! frick HIM indeed! The driving force in that band is the voice of Levon Helm.
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Re: the band
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2012, 07:52:24 PM »


Have always been a big fan of the goin' band from raider land. 400+


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Re: the band
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2012, 08:23:01 PM »


Have always been a big fan of the goin' band from raider land. 400+


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Really?  That's the same crap everybody is complaining about here.  Way easy drill.  Gustav Holst's "The Planets." That will really fire some people up.  I guess you are impressed by the size (not that there's anything wrong with that).

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Re: the band
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2012, 08:35:46 PM »
Ocelot_ark aside, It's the Frickin' band!!! Who cares except band geeks and fat chicks who wouldn't have gotten into college any other way?

I know someone will get all bowed up over this but again, WHO CARES? Who among us goes to a game to see the band over the game? I never read on the woopigs that we lost the halftime show or claims of the tuba player has speed to burn. Again, I DON'T CARE.

I enjoy the band but consider them the malt and hops to the half time beer.  Afterall, IT'S THE FRICKIN BAND!
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