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So if Javon Williams goes to UCLA after we slow played him and we offer Brad Culp, I'll be upset.
Once again, you're putting WAAAAY to much faith into current recruiting rankings. Why? Because it's sounding like you trust how a washed up never was QB now turned analyst is ranking kids out of HS against competition that wil be selling cars this time next year.
I'm upset because we lost a true difference maker. I don't give a aMm about our class ranking. I care that we no longer have a 6'6" once in a lifetime receiver in the fold. THAT'S the kind of player that Bama/LSU can't prepare for. Oh? You have an all world CB at 6'1", blah, blah? Oh well. Just throw it up to DGB. He would keep drives going, turn FGs into TDs, etc, etc. He's Calvin Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald level talent. I'm not saying we DON'T have talented receivers. We do. But even the 3 great receivers we just lost were, at best, a wash when compared to the secondaries they faced at Bama/LSU...and that's probably a stretch. Oh well, it's over now. And Javon Williams signed with UCLA. They need to start working on Tenpenny and get his ass to stay in Arkansas. I can stand losing a 5* out of state player...but we need to stop losing the few elite players we have in the state to grades/competition.
So if Javon Williams goes to UCLA after we slow played him and we offer Brad Culp, I'll be upset. edit: he went to ucla
This is how I look at the rankings- Had we signed DGB, our class ranking would have jumped up quite a bit. He's a WR that would've been coming to a team that will never have problems at receiver. Does that one commitment really change the overall dynamic of our class that much? The Peters signing fills a need for us that is much more important than wide receiver, but the rankings don't reflect that. I'm not trying to say I don't care about not signing DGB. I'm very unhappy that we didn't. Just saying that you could sign a class with a handful of 5 star guys at one position and you're class is going to be ranked high regardless of what else you have.
Having confidence that we will be ok is fine because of course we will be ok. But quit acting like it doesnt disapoint you that we didnt get some of these guys. If we wouldve gotten them would you just be acting like oh who cares that we got dgb?no had we gotten him and a few others and finished in the top five you would've hollering that this top5/10 class is the going to be really really great which is exactly what some recruiting site will tell you. If we dont get the recruits the mantra is these recruiting services dont know aMm. If we signed these guys and had a top class then all the sudden they are right because well we got better players. Acting like there is nothing right abouy these services is our way of dealing with not signing top 5 classes. Easy to make fun of the party when you arent invited.
This is exactly where we are at, dead on: To everyone that is hushing the Gruden talk, stop it, there IS a deal in place...
I'm telling you that an 11-win season on top of a 10-win season buys a person plenty of confidence, and so I don't question it.I think some of you are being fricking stupid and obsessing for obsessing's stake over reading tea leaves.
I really thought we were gonna close with a bang. We kind of we closed with a poof this year. Guess we can still wait on diamond and his buddy on Friday.
Anyone know why Buchanan hasn't signed?
So you are saying you wouldnt want to sign a handfull of 5 star wrs or a handfull of 5 star at the same position because it disproportionately fluffs our rankings? Ill take signing 3 five star wr in every class from now till the end of time.
Look, I honestly don't know whether I would rather have Petrino or Saban as the coach here. That's saying something because BMFP hasn't accomplished nearly as much as Saban. But he has taken us from aMm to serious way faster than we ever could have imagined. Getting to 11 wins from where we started in 08 is an obvious indicator of coaching ability.But, aMm, that isn't a strong enough reason not to be concerned with what's happened today. Recruiting fucking matters, like it or not. I've posted before (and if necessary will again) statistical studies that show that recruiting rankings (measured by whichever service you like, no matter how the services quantify the player's talent) are significantly correlated with how you end up in the final polls for the next four years (where 'polls' means Sagarin ratings, at least). That is a robust fucking effect. Yeah, cue all the bullshit about correlation not implying causation. I know; I get it. But, on the other hand, the only evidence for any causal connection is correlational. So, assuming we care about the future success of the program, we'd clearly be retards not to AT LEAST point this evidence out. I'm sure coaching ability is a variable that you have to keep in mind when trying to explain the correlation. But it's just obvious that Lombardi himself is not beating Alabama and LSU with a bunch of fucking two stars. And it doesn't make me or anyone else a chicken little for pointing that out.
But it's just obvious that Lombardi himself is not beating Alabama and LSU with a bunch of fricking two stars. And it doesn't make me or anyone else a chicken little for pointing that out.
I'm not upset, we got players that BMFP wants and who want to be at Arkansas. I am looking forward to watching them develop and kicking ass for the next 5 years. I also look forward to: the class geting re-ranked in 4 years and is a top ten; beating the everloving aMm out of Vandy, Tennersee and mizzou and every other team we face.They can have DGB and Pinkel I will happily take Petrino and what ever kid has the stones to come play for him.
There's still at least a LITTLE hope for some fireworks here at the end.Seth Jacobs announces tonight, I believe. He would be a huge get for the defense. I THINK it's down to us and Ok St. I'm not holding my breath, though. Haven't heard ANYTHING about him in months with regards to Arkansas.Darius Philon, a DE/DT from Alabama, had his scholly offer reverted to a grayshirt by Saban and Bama. He put on the Bama hat and went through the shennanigans, but he didn't sign/fax his LOI yet. Supposedly we're in his ear offering the full ride. Teammate of Jamichael Winston. I'd be pretty damn happy with that kind of surprise on NSD. Very good player with offers from Bama, Auburn, and others.Diamond. I feel good about him. I just hope we didn't have to offer a package deal to get him. I think we'll know if we got him if we don't sign Warburg or whatever his name is. If he signs elsewhere, I'll take that to mean that Diamond is ours.
I think it has to be the whole leg and not just pieces.
So the same people that make initial recruiting rankings are always wrong because we dont rank high however when the same people make rerankings and we finish highly then all the sudden they know what they are talking about. It makes so much sense now.
I never said I wasnt disappointed we didnt land a 6'4, 220lb, 4.4 wr. I was shocked when I saw him put that hat on. I'm very disappointed. And dont pretend to know how I would respond either way to make yourself feel better about your shitty argument that recruiting rankings DO matter. Because that's just bullshit, and you're hook, line, and sinker the reason why these shitty recruiting services are in business. Look, we finished #6 and if we beat LSU who knows what wouldve happened. And we'll be better this year. Quit the chicken little sky is falling because we dont have a top 5 class. I think some of you are just still jaded by the last crew that was here trying to sell you on diamonds in the rough and under the radar super secret recruits, when it was just really shitty recruiting.
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