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Offline jethro

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Basketball thing to think about
« on: November 09, 2014, 09:43:14 PM »
Turner Broadcasting recently pulled some channels from Dish Network.  The head of Dish recently said that CNN,  Tru TV etc were really a non-issue.  Furthermore, he stated that if things did not clear soon, and he did not seem to be pushing for it to happen really, that when TBS and TNT contracts came up they could be pulled also.

If that were to happen, then 3 of the 4 stations used to broadcast the NCAA tourney would not be on Dish.  The luck of the Hog fan would really be in force if we were finally to make the dance again, only for a large majority of fans not to be able to watch.

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2014, 09:52:26 PM »
The Starkville you say.

I think it has to be the whole leg and not just pieces.

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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2014, 10:08:07 PM »
I didn't know Dish was still a thing.  I'd just assumed all sports fans had switched to Directv.
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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2014, 06:58:26 AM »
Yes, there still is dish.  I noticed Tru was off and thought maybe it was moving to another channel.  Hope they straighten this out soon or I will be a "true" sports fan and go to direct.

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 07:19:11 AM »
I didn't know Dish was still a thing.  I'd just assumed all sports fans had switched to Directv.

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 07:26:32 AM »
frick Ted Turner and his uber gay Cnn
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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 09:03:32 AM »
frick Ted Turner and his uber gay Cnn

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 10:29:44 AM »
I didn't know Dish was still a thing.  I'd just assumed all sports fans had switched to Directv.
Before I climb up on my soapbox let me preface this anecdote by saying I have Directv and am pleased with the service and quality of the picture and equipment.  It is by far the best choice between the other cable/satellite providers I've used over the years.  But when people act like Directv is the best option for "Sports fans" this is a misconception.  Directv is the best option if you are a diehard NFL fan (be prepared to pay a huge premium).  But not if you love college sports or MLB. 

I have had the NFL Sunday ticket for 3 years now.  I actually PAY around $300 bucks a year for that.  If I want to watch the Redzone channel that Cox, Uverse, and Dish give you for free?  I not only have to subscribe to Sunday Ticket, I also have to pay an additional $50 for the "SuperFan Pack".  WTF is this bullshit?  They really have me by the balls because I'm not leaving until anybody else offers that NFL package, but I sure as aMm aint paying $50 extra to stream to my phone and get the redzone channel for 17 weeks.  I have called and complained about this every year and the answer is always the same, "Well sir you just spend the additional $8 per month and you'll have Redzone".  frick you.  I'm paying over $200 a month as it stands for your "choice plus" programming and your Sunday Ticket.  Toss me a fricking bone here and throw in the Redzone channel like even soulless Comcast will do.

  My other issue with Directv is that every year during basketball I'll have to call whenever we play on FoxsportsSW and either bitch about the game being blacked out in Fayetteville (even when we're on the road) or wait until it's over and watch on my XBOX.  They NEVER get this right.

 The last thing I'll say is that when I had Cox they had a channel dedicated to Cardinals Baseball (used to be Ch 39 in Fayetteville)  When I switched to Uverse they had FoxSportsMW which showed all non nationally televised games the Cards played.  Both of these providers gave me this in their basic to medium packages.  Directv makes you buy the sports pack and when you do try to watch the games you've payed $10 a month for, half of the time it's blacked out in our area.  So you call customer service and guess what?  MLB extra innings is only $200 for the entire year!  Oh goody.  SO again they're trying through constant inconveniences to steer you to pay a premium for programming you should already be receiving.   It's really a racket for them.  /csb. 

TLDR - Directv while awesome for NFL Sunday ticket will nickel and dime the aMm out of you for added features other providers give you for free. 
   

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2014, 11:25:03 AM »
Nfl red zone on dish is not free but NFL network has a game cast show which is basically the same thing without up to the minute highlights.

Dish put on mgm in place of what they took away. That's fine with me but I'm sure they will eventually get Ted Turner figured out.

I would bet there isn't an out pour of pissing and moaning about losing such features as cnn, Trutv, and whatever cartoon networks got removed. Tnt and TBS might actually get noticed though. If Turner holds out for March madness this aMm might get real but I would bet it gets worked out long before then.

My only bitch is they remove programming but don't reduce the bill I pay. Overall I applaud dish for playing hard ball, they usually come out ahead. These fights are almost always about Dish being forced to take channels they don't want as a package. Would you really want to pay so many cents on the dollar for TRUTV? no but Turner wants to lump that aMm in and then demand a premium for it.
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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2014, 11:29:40 AM »
Dish was much cheaper for about the same channels when I looked 4 months ago.  I don't get NFL network, but I use up most of my game watching hours on Saturdays anyway. 

I do get MLB for free, which is nice. 
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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 11:44:22 AM »
do you have the internet? then you should be fine when the ncaa tourney comes around.

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2014, 11:47:40 AM »
Charlie Ergen pissed me off years ago in their AMC spat where he dropped it and basically said their mostly rural customer base didn't care about shows with zombies and ad agencies in the 60's. Like all of their customers were a bunch of redneck hicks. I'm not sure if they ever got it back, didn't care. Switched to uverse.

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2014, 12:05:29 PM »
Before I climb up on my soapbox let me preface this anecdote by saying I have Directv and am pleased with the service and quality of the picture and equipment.  It is by far the best choice between the other cable/satellite providers I've used over the years.  But when people act like Directv is the best option for "Sports fans" this is a misconception.  Directv is the best option if you are a diehard NFL fan (be prepared to pay a huge premium).  But not if you love college sports or MLB. 

I have had the NFL Sunday ticket for 3 years now.  I actually PAY around $300 bucks a year for that.  If I want to watch the Redzone channel that Cox, Uverse, and Dish give you for free?  I not only have to subscribe to Sunday Ticket, I also have to pay an additional $50 for the "SuperFan Pack".  WTF is this bullshit?  They really have me by the balls because I'm not leaving until anybody else offers that NFL package, but I sure as aMm aint paying $50 extra to stream to my phone and get the redzone channel for 17 weeks.  I have called and complained about this every year and the answer is always the same, "Well sir you just spend the additional $8 per month and you'll have Redzone".  frick you.  I'm paying over $200 a month as it stands for your "choice plus" programming and your Sunday Ticket.  Toss me a fricking bone here and throw in the Redzone channel like even soulless Comcast will do.

  My other issue with Directv is that every year during basketball I'll have to call whenever we play on FoxsportsSW and either bitch about the game being blacked out in Fayetteville (even when we're on the road) or wait until it's over and watch on my XBOX.  They NEVER get this right.

 The last thing I'll say is that when I had Cox they had a channel dedicated to Cardinals Baseball (used to be Ch 39 in Fayetteville)  When I switched to Uverse they had FoxSportsMW which showed all non nationally televised games the Cards played.  Both of these providers gave me this in their basic to medium packages.  Directv makes you buy the sports pack and when you do try to watch the games you've payed $10 a month for, half of the time it's blacked out in our area.  So you call customer service and guess what?  MLB extra innings is only $200 for the entire year!  Oh goody.  SO again they're trying through constant inconveniences to steer you to pay a premium for programming you should already be receiving.   It's really a racket for them.  /csb. 

TLDR - Directv while awesome for NFL Sunday ticket will nickel and dime the aMm out of you for added features other providers give you for free. 
   

Word. Same way with Grizzlies games for me. Suddenlink shows them on FSS but Directv wants you to get sports pack, then blacksout everything else. Id just as as soon get League Pass and watch games but they would blackout Grizzlie games on there unless I had sports pack. Fuckers.

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Re: Basketball thing to think about
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2014, 12:11:02 PM »


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I also thought DirecTV was what most sports fans watched.  I say that not because I deem it superior to Dish, but because I rarely, rarely hear anyone mention Dish anymore.  Starkville, I've had people tell me they have "dish," only to realize they meant, "satellite dish," and that satellite dish is DirecTV.

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 12:56:36 PM »
Before I climb up on my soapbox let me preface this anecdote by saying I have Directv and am pleased with the service and quality of the picture and equipment.  It is by far the best choice between the other cable/satellite providers I've used over the years.  But when people act like Directv is the best option for "Sports fans" this is a misconception.  Directv is the best option if you are a diehard NFL fan (be prepared to pay a huge premium).  But not if you love college sports or MLB. 

I have had the NFL Sunday ticket for 3 years now.  I actually PAY around $300 bucks a year for that.  If I want to watch the Redzone channel that Cox, Uverse, and Dish give you for free?  I not only have to subscribe to Sunday Ticket, I also have to pay an additional $50 for the "SuperFan Pack".  WTF is this bullshit?  They really have me by the balls because I'm not leaving until anybody else offers that NFL package, but I sure as aMm aint paying $50 extra to stream to my phone and get the redzone channel for 17 weeks.  I have called and complained about this every year and the answer is always the same, "Well sir you just spend the additional $8 per month and you'll have Redzone".  frick you.  I'm paying over $200 a month as it stands for your "choice plus" programming and your Sunday Ticket.  Toss me a fricking bone here and throw in the Redzone channel like even soulless Comcast will do.

  My other issue with Directv is that every year during basketball I'll have to call whenever we play on FoxsportsSW and either bitch about the game being blacked out in Fayetteville (even when we're on the road) or wait until it's over and watch on my XBOX.  They NEVER get this right.

 The last thing I'll say is that when I had Cox they had a channel dedicated to Cardinals Baseball (used to be Ch 39 in Fayetteville)  When I switched to Uverse they had FoxSportsMW which showed all non nationally televised games the Cards played.  Both of these providers gave me this in their basic to medium packages.  Directv makes you buy the sports pack and when you do try to watch the games you've payed $10 a month for, half of the time it's blacked out in our area.  So you call customer service and guess what?  MLB extra innings is only $200 for the entire year!  Oh goody.  SO again they're trying through constant inconveniences to steer you to pay a premium for programming you should already be receiving.   It's really a racket for them.  /csb. 

TLDR - Directv while awesome for NFL Sunday ticket will nickel and dime the aMm out of you for added features other providers give you for free. 
   

I've never had a problem with Cardinals games being blacked out on Directv in LR.  The only issue I've had in the last few years RE: MLB blackouts were when the Braves played the Astros this year, and the Astros didn't have a deal in place with anyone to televise their games.  That's an MLB and a Lastros problem and not on Directv. 

There is absolutely no reason for you to buy Extra Innings unless you want to watch someone other than St. Louis, KC, Houston, or Texas, or whatever teams comprise the NWA "home market area."  If a Cardinals game is blacked out or unavailable for you for some reason on your normal Sports Pack channels you won't be able to get it on EI either.   

I don't recall any issues with basketball blackouts down here either.  Having to shell out extra for Red Zone sucks though. 

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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2014, 01:23:28 PM »
I've had DirecTv for years, at the time I got it, Dish would not give me all of the Cardinals baseball games with any package. I live in the North Central part of the state but couldn't get Fox Midwest from Dish. With DirecTv and the premier package I get Fox MW, SW, and KC, and every Cardinal game.
 
But I think all of them are gonna give you at least a couple screwings a year or more. When you sign or extend there's always a special or deal going for a certain number of months.  I have whole house DVR, two extra HD receivers and the protection insurance, and manage to keep the total monthly bill under 140 bucks.  When those special prices end every few months they'll hit you with the full price for at least a month. After a call and bitching I get it back down as before, they always say because I'm a long time customer. They got me for an extra 30 bucks last month.  Doesn't amount to that much but if they screw 26 million subscribers like that a couple times a year, that's a Starkville of a bunch of change. With that said, I wouldn't do without it.

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2014, 02:00:05 PM »
the dumb thing about NWA and DTV on baseball is that we are 3.5 hours from KC and 5 hours from STL but we are in the Texas market for baseball.  No problems with Houston games except that they are 9 hours away.  This has me fuzzed.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2014, 02:00:57 PM »
Charlie Ergen pissed me off years ago in their AMC spat where he dropped it and basically said their mostly rural customer base didn't care about shows with zombies and ad agencies in the 60's. Like all of their customers were a bunch of redneck hicks. I'm not sure if they ever got it back, didn't care. Switched to uverse.

Uverse is the best deal I've ever had with cable/internet, but their customer service averaged 2.5 hours per phone call back when we had them.  They're not out here in the boonies yet.  I've "heard" of people tapping into them without paying anything since they run everything through a central box.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2014, 02:01:57 PM »
the dumb thing about NWA and DTV on baseball is that we are 3.5 hours from KC and 5 hours from STL but we are in the Texas market for baseball.  No problems with Houston games except that they are 9 hours away.  This has me fuzzed.

Seems like we used to get Cardinals games on the Harrison sports channel but I haven't been able to pick it up lately.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2014, 02:06:26 PM »
the dumb thing about NWA and DTV on baseball is that we are 3.5 hours from KC and 5 hours from STL but we are in the Texas market for baseball.  No problems with Houston games except that they are 9 hours away.  This has me fuzzed.

That's MLB's deal, not DTV.
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/blackout.jsp

They consider 72201 to be a home market for the Cards, Royals, Rangers and Astros.
It's bullshit archaic policy that was initially set up years ago for radio networks.

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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2014, 02:39:01 PM »
I remember when we had the giant-ass satellite dish when I was a kid having to move it to find the right satellite to watch HSE and watching grainy images of the Hogs playing Houston.  I was just grateful for having any way to watch the Hogs on TV.  Amazing how times have changed.

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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2014, 03:33:06 PM »
Because you all care...I did not like how my Directv bill was mysteriously rising by about $5-$6 per month.

So I called them and asked for "customer retention" (very important if you want free money and service from them). Then I told them that Dish had contacted me and offered to buy out my Directv contract and they would also throw in a $200 gift card to sweeten the deal.

So the lady with the Asian accent began to make me offers. She immediately credited my account $50. She sent a $200 gift card in the mail. She asked me if there was anything else I would like or was I completely satisfied? I said, "I really like NFL football." So she put me on hold for 30 seconds and then returned and asked this question. "Sir, would you be pleased to have our NFL Sunday Ticket for no charge?" I said, "Yes."

She then asked further, "Would you prefer the standard package or the premium?" I said, "Premium." So she added NFL Sunday Ticket with all the bells and whistles and it immediately showed up on my account as an in/out transaction of +$385/-$385.

Finally, she told me that my contract would be up in 2 months and that I should call "customer retention" back on that day and they would offer me more freebies and possibly an upgrade to my equipment with free installation. And so, on that day, they scheduled to upgrade my HD-DVRs all for free. Now you know how to accomplish this. Customer. Retention.

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Bless Conway Corp: free Fox MW for Cardinals games, now available in HD.
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