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Who would replace us as "Arkansas's team?" No one. That's the whole fricking point.
It's why some specifically don't want to play stAte.
It's why every person who ever spends time in this state end up rooting for Arkansas.
Yes, it's really the only place like it besides maybe Nebraska, and it's very unique. You can preach up and down about how we don't need to be unique, but I think it's the very fabric of the program and all of it's tradition. It's a very unwise assumption to think that none of that matters.
Your conjecture about WMS expansion (the whole point of this thread is how stupid that is, right?) and voters is all a huge pipe dream.
I guess my whole point is that people get so god damn worked up over this and they never discuss the real issues. Ty is spot on with the real issues at stake.
The real problems that will need smart solutions and compromise across the board.
I'm just trying to bring to the forefront that this program and university's presence in LR has been and continues to be imperative to creating the Arkansas Razorback tradition that we all know so well.
Starkville yes, we need this to be the state's "team." Whether anyone likes to admit it, we don't have the traditionally large numbers of alums and students to compete with out that aura. The Razorbacks are our "pro" team that everyone goes crazy over.
WMS games in LR don't create that by themselves, but it's the cornerstone of the presence of UofA in the state's center. I just think that's very important. No one is on here railing to keep an SEC game in WMS. I think we all understand we need those games on campus now.
Well we are definitely fricked once Petrino is gone. I guess these people think we will never hire another good coach again.
Fayetteville doesn't have an inferiority complex, but NWA as a whole kind of does.
Most of what you posted was the other way around. Think about it. People move from all over the state to NWA. Nobody moves from NWA to Little Rock. Nobody.
Petrino is an opportunity for us. They make it sound like a damn curse that we'll suck when he leaves.We were a top 10 program when Broyles retired. Holtz was a big time coach, he just got run oft. Hatfield was a solid coach, and he got run oft. We hired shitty and now we aren't a top 10 program anymore.We need to close the gap between our $72 mil budget and the $100-110 Bama, Tennessee and Florida have and make sure we have top notch facilities. We don't have the resources in this state to waste millions on competing venues.Years of winning consistently will ensure our fans lavish money on the program, and Petrino has a legacy to leave the next coach. It's amazing that instead of seeing him as an opportunity to build our program up to the top again people see it as inevitable we will suck donkey dick when he leaves and therefore we might as well play in a 53,000 seat stadium forever and not bother expecting anything better than 9th place in the SEC. That's bullshit talk.
Yep. And piano lessons too. Now that I'm old(er), I wish like Starkville I could bang out a tune on a piano.
How do we close that $30 million gap? Easy to say we need to do it...much more difficult coming up with answers.Moving a game or 2 to Fayetteville will possibly only create the same $$$ that we have now. Donations/Answer the Call monies from the LR only crowd (20-30K per others estimate in this thread) will by and large go away. Folks that don't already have season RRS tickets won't all of a sudden ante up for a seat license + the cost for tickets to 7-8 games. No way. I also believe you could lose some Fayetteville season ticket sales (as I posted earlier) due to the fact that a family of 4 would have an extra $500 they'd have to spend for season tickets for 2 crappy games. Throw in the logic that Long would also need to recoup the separate Answer the Call monies that wouldn't be coming in from LR anymore by possibly upping the ante once again for RRS seat privileges and you could have a sticky situation.Or, as I stated earlier, I could be way off base and there is a huge demand for more season tickets in Fayetteville than I think.
By the way, I have gone to every game in RRS since moving back in 2000 and I can't recall any game, against any cupcake, that had less people in the stands then WMS capacity... certainly not since the expansion.
I still don't see any evidence in NWA of one-upsmanship vs LR. Its Rogers vs Fayetteville if anything. Benton County vs Washington County. I think the difference is that LR people somehow seem aware of things being built in NWA, like malls, arenas, etc. I don't think your average resident of NWA really thinks about LR that often. That's not an insult, but its just reality.Local TV weather coverage here stops around Russellville. Most of the local TV stations cover news in eastern Oklahoma more than they do anything in central Arkansas. That's just the way it is.
Yet nobody has addressed any of the questions I posed.
I agree 100% with this. When I was in school up there it was like I was in another state with Missouri and Oklahoma news. I'm not saying it's good or bad but there is a disconnect between NWA and the rest of the state. TV down here covers the whole state. NWA TV covers only that area of the state. Like WMR said, that's just the way it is.
That being said, it will be in the best interest of the program to keep all of the games on campus.
I tried to at least put it in a different light because I think your concept may be flawed.... although it may be my lack of understanding that is the problem.Do you have any thoughts about what I wrote above about what we supposedly lose playing in WMS versus the counterbalance of donations? Does any of that make sense?
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