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TheOtherWhiteMeat · « **on:** February 08, 2012, 10:58:31 AM »

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aid=130158.54928.142287

ocelot_ark · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:11:35 AM »

Put some more lipstick on that pig, goddammit.

Jeez. Add a few luxury suites and then, boom, all will be well! Meanwhile, Fayetteville will likely be up to 80,000 capacity by then with many of those being chairbacks.

Just give it up already. 100 years from now, Arkansas won't play games in LR. 50 years from now, Arkansas won't play games in LR. Just end the fucking madness now before you guys throw more money down the toilet.

Phat_Hawg · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:12:39 AM »

Who would be paying for that?

ocelot_ark · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:15:57 AM »

Quote from: Phat_Hawg on February 08, 2012, 11:12:39 AM

Who would be paying for that?

I'm sure it'd be the tax payers. You know. Because Arkansas doesn't need to put money towards anything else.

HogofWar · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:19:39 AM »

Quote from: ocelot_ark on February 08, 2012, 11:11:35 AM

Put some more lipstick on that pig, gawddamnit.

Jeez. Add a few luxury suites and then, boom, all will be well! Meanwhile, Fayetteville will likely be up to 80,000 capacity by then with many of those being chairbacks.

Just give it up already. 100 years from now, Arkansas won't play games in LR. 50 years from now, Arkansas won't play games in LR. Just end the fricking madness now before you guys throw more money down the toilet.

This.

This will just be a fresh coat of lipstick, the first was the stupid new press box that everyone in the stadium paid for with the increase of each LR ticket. I hope Long has the good sense to move the LSWho? game to Fayetteville this year.

wmr · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:28:27 AM »

They'll try to wrangle an extended contract from U of A before proceeding. Hopefully Petrino will be having more success and that will make it easier for Long to tell them to go fist themselves.

chittlins · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:42:23 AM »

How bout them moving the state championship games to Fayettevile

Hogye West · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2012, 11:52:38 AM »

Quote from: chittlins on February 08, 2012, 11:42:23 AM

How bout them moving the state championship games to Fayettevile

Might as well. 7A West have seemed to always have the two teams in it every year anyway

Hogwildpigcrazy · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2012, 01:15:34 PM »

LR needs one or two games. They don't have to be SEC teams, just a couple of games. Give the whole state a better chance to see them at least once.

ocelot_ark · « **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2012, 01:17:58 PM »

Quote from: chittlins on February 08, 2012, 11:42:23 AM

How bout them moving the state championship games to Fayettevile

You can't do that! THe roads are too dangerous and they don't even have lights up there!

Mike Slive · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2012, 01:29:09 PM »

If LR had a Catfish Hole, I could see us moving all our games there.

radioman · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2012, 01:35:22 PM »

The glaring omission to me is the lack of details and no mention of any plans to expand the total number of seats to a level that is even in the ballpark of the capacity of our competition.

ocelot_ark · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2012, 01:40:26 PM »

Quote from: radioman on February 08, 2012, 01:35:22 PM

The glaring omission to me is the lack of details and no mention of any plans to expand the total number of seats to a level that is even in the ballpark of the capacity of our competition.

To be fair, they weren't talking to the WMS people. Just one employee.

chittlins · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2012, 01:41:19 PM »

Quote from: radioman on February 08, 2012, 01:35:22 PM

The glaring omission to me is the lack of details and no mention of any plans to expand the total number of seats to a level that is even in the ballpark of the capacity of our competition.

I doubt that was the true intent. It's to get natives riled up so as the WMS commission can due the least possible to assure themsleves of games after 2016.

Filthy_McSwine · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2012, 02:02:44 PM »

Quote from: Mike Slive on February 08, 2012, 01:29:09 PM

If LR had a Catfish Hole, I could see us moving all our games there.

NLR has a Catfish Hole and the fish is damned good. Service has taken a little hit since Memaw got sick, tho.

big_pig · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2012, 02:27:49 PM »

Quote from: chittlins on February 08, 2012, 01:41:19 PM

I doubt that was the true intent. It's to get natives riled up so as the WMS commission can due the least possible to assure themsleves of games after 2016.

This was my takeaway as well.

hogsrunwild · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2012, 02:36:50 PM »

The ad pictured in the article is probably the best solution:

ocelot_ark · « **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2012, 03:17:36 PM »

Brilliant! Where do we find asbestos and mold? Do you think we should just hide it in the stands or try to get some in the press box too?

radioman · « **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2012, 03:53:21 PM »

I have no doubt that is part of it. I am very much in favor of all home games being played on campus. I don't mean home games in something like the SW Classic. If War Memorial was actually good sized and nicer, I would lower my opposition to that venue.

Quote from: chittlins on February 08, 2012, 01:41:19 PM

I doubt that was the true intent. It's to get natives riled up so as the WMS commission can due the least possible to assure themsleves of games after 2016.

TheOtherWhiteMeat · « **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2012, 03:59:21 PM »

First, I am for playing all home games at RRS plus finding a replacement for the Southwest Classic at Jerry World. And I grew up going to games at WMS.

WMS was originally built 1) to honor Arkansas' war veterans and 2) to maximize accessibility to Razorback games to fans. WMS is and always has been a state-owned facility and thus is the responsibility of the state, although due to the revenue from Razorback games the state has had to provide little if any funds to the stadium.

While Staggs and the Commission have for the most part done a good job maintaining WMS for the purposes of #1 above, they need to start understanding the need for #2 disappeared years ago and the only reason games are still being played there is because Broyles flubbed the initial attempt at moving games and the sentimentality of many (like myself) who remember becoming Razorbacks fans there.

But at this point, every true Razorback fan realizes that the team needs to play in the venue that gives them the best chance of winning and that is RRS. Anyone who supports games at WMS at this point is no better than the people who put Nutt over the program.

Staggs and the Commission need to get their ass in gear, accept facts, and start exploring ways to replace the lost revenue when all games are moved to RRS. I don't know why we couldn't get one of the lower-tier bowl games. I watched several played in worse places than WMS. Have ASU and UCA play there every year. Do something. But quit thinking the Razorbacks are going to keep playing there forever.

Cerdo · « **Reply #20 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:12:06 PM »

Quote from: TheOtherWhiteMeat on February 08, 2012, 03:59:21 PM

First, I am for playing all home games at RRS plus finding a replacement for the Southwest Classic at .....abbreviated for length...

This is a really intelligent post on the whole deal. I don't agree with all of it because I personally think we could make a showcase game out of an ASU vs Arkansas "diamond cup" game or something and benefit the state and everyone, but I know that a bunch of you folks who froth at the mouth of "giving Howling and aMm anything" will go crazy.

One nice game a year, with a healthy rivalry and PPV in WMS.

What other revenue could WMS generate besides a bowl game if the Hogs were off the schedule? What do you do with an empty stadium and no pro or minor league sports?

ArkGuy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:15:17 PM »

I, too, saw my first Hog game there and still love watching games there but it is is tempting to say it would not only be nuts but almost immoral to spend millions of dollars just so another 10,000 fans can be squeezed in two nights a year for three hours, especially given the existence of DWRRS.

Long could up the ante by fast tracking the Fayetteville stadium expansion.

Stephen Colboar · « **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:25:52 PM »

I've said this a lot, but if the stAte thing were to ever come to fruition, you could knock out two birds with one stone.
Agree to play stAte at WMS for XX amount of time and in the same swoop, tell WMS that's their only game.

chittlins · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:26:27 PM »

Quote from: ArkGuy on February 08, 2012, 04:15:17 PM

I, too, saw my first Hog game there and still love watching games there but it is is tempting to say it would not only be nuts but almost immoral to spend millions of dollars just so another 10,000 fans can be squeezed in two nights a year for three hours, especially given the existence of DWRRS.

Long could up the ante by fast tracking the Fayetteville stadium expansion.

Someone with an in can correct me but I think the moment the last jock strap is moved to the new FOC the plans for the nez are to be ushered out. It doesn't require the level of fundraising a non revenue producing project like the FOC does because it produces revenue to service the debt.

I think this is coming out even before the move of the LSU game to Fayetteville is all but official and it's politics being played.

Oliver Fist · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:51:04 PM »

This is getting old. If the people of central/south/east Arkansas want to see the fucking Hogs play, get in your goddamn pickup and drive your ass to Fayetteville like everyone else.