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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2012, 03:26:19 PM »
The Nolan exit fiasco was before my time. This documentary tells a good story, but it left me wanting to know more of the details. I think it should've been a two-hour show.

However the story does make me much more thankful that Mike Anderson is now our coach.
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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2012, 03:32:52 PM »
You're either racist or stupid.  Either way, you're a douche.
Glad this movie is healing all the wounds. What a hoot.
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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2012, 03:34:59 PM »
Glad this movie is healing all the wounds. What a hoot.
Well, you do remind me of a certain "wound that never heals."
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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2012, 03:51:52 PM »
He needs to kind of lay down on the ground for a minute, just stay there for a second, and have a good bleed. And just bleed.
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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2012, 04:06:33 PM »
Great band. Great song.
I see that you definitely did not see what I did there.

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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2012, 04:49:43 PM »
I see that you definitely did not see what I did there.

This is what I thought you did.

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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2012, 05:02:12 PM »
He needs to kind of lay down on the ground for a minute, just stay there for a second, and have a good bleed. And just bleed.
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Re: Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2012, 05:10:32 PM »
Glad this movie is healing all the wounds. What a hoot.

This isn't about old wounds.  It's about you making a laughably stupid post now.
This next post was made by a real dumbass.

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Re: Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2012, 05:30:34 PM »
This isn't about old wounds.  It's about you making a laughably stupid post now.
OK there governor. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #134 on: February 14, 2012, 05:44:27 PM »
The Nolan exit fiasco was before my time. This documentary tells a good story, but it left me wanting to know more of the details. I think it should've been a two-hour show.

However the story does make me much more thankful that Mike Anderson is now our coach.


Here's some fun reading that has a lot of interesting nuggets in it.  Yes, they're court cases, but if you read through them you'll probably learn something about what happened.  How did you miss all this in the first place, though? 

Judge Wilson's order dismissing Nolan's lawsuit against the UA. (7/8/2004)

8th Circuit opinion affirming Judge Wilson's order. (5/26/2006)

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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #135 on: February 14, 2012, 06:15:29 PM »
I think John White screwed up pretty much everything he touched in athletics, but I can't say I completely blame the UA for not hiring Self. Watching that documentary, I remember thinking how bad we would have looked had we hired a white coach. I don't think our whole program was racist like Nolan made it sound but that would have been some nice evidence for his court case and things might be a lot different right now.
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #136 on: February 14, 2012, 06:42:01 PM »
I see that you definitely did not see what I did there.

I may be the only one who did see what you did there.

For those of you others:
http://arkansasnews.com/2011/02/14/blog-pelphreys-valentines-day-plea/

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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #137 on: February 14, 2012, 07:19:54 PM »
I think John White screwed up pretty much everything he touched in athletics, but I can't say I completely blame the UA for not hiring Self. Watching that documentary, I remember thinking how bad we would have looked had we hired a white coach. I don't think our whole program was racist like Nolan made it sound but that would have been some nice evidence for his court case and things might be a lot different right now.

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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #138 on: February 14, 2012, 07:19:55 PM »
How did you miss all this in the first place, though? 

I was young (high school), didn't pay much attention to the details. I knew everybody was pissed off at everybody, somebody messed around and shot a horse, then he got fired.

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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #139 on: February 14, 2012, 07:21:36 PM »
I may be the only one who did see what you did there.

For those of you others:
http://arkansasnews.com/2011/02/14/blog-pelphreys-valentines-day-plea/

Yeah I caught it immediately.  I think Pel has already faded from our memories.
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #140 on: February 14, 2012, 10:03:56 PM »
Although it was a Hog loss, probably the best bball game I have ever witnessed was Arkansas vs Bama in our first SEC tournament.

The wrath of destruction I unleashed after that game was epic.  It would have made "wallstreetpro2" from the youtubes proud.



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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #141 on: February 14, 2012, 10:25:01 PM »
I'm sure no one disagrees but this is an amazingly well-made documentary.
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #142 on: February 14, 2012, 10:29:47 PM »

Here's some fun reading that has a lot of interesting nuggets in it.  Yes, they're court cases, but if you read through them you'll probably learn something about what happened.  How did you miss all this in the first place, though? 

Judge Wilson's order dismissing Nolan's lawsuit against the UA. (7/8/2004)

8th Circuit opinion affirming Judge Wilson's order. (5/26/2006)

Reading through that first link, and this gave me a good laugh:

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At Defendants' urging, I have considered Murphy v. University of Cincinnati.*fn23 unpublished three-judge opinion of the Sixth Circuit. In Murphy, the plaintiff, an assistant swim coach, compared herself to the assistant diving coach, a man who was in his twenty-second year at UC who had earned eight various coach-of-the-year awards and had coached nineteen All-Americans and one Olympian. Those facts differ greatly from the facts here. While it appears that Coach Nutt is on his way, at this point he has not won a National Championship or a BCS bowl game. According to Kevin Scanlon, only Richardson has achieved the status of a "seasoned coach." Courts have made it clear that a finding that persons are similarly situated does not require that their positions are identical.*fn24 All in all, there has been no showing that these positions require appreciably different types and degrees of skill and responsibility.

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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #143 on: February 14, 2012, 10:35:55 PM »
You're either racist or stupid.  Either way, you're a douche.
 

Instead of shooting Nolan's horse, he should have just shot himself.
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Re: Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #144 on: February 14, 2012, 11:12:55 PM »
Great band. Great song.


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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #145 on: February 14, 2012, 11:18:49 PM »
Just watched it the second time.

Really wanted to see more. That thing needed two hours.
I feel like we just all watched the Seinfeld finale.

Two things really stuck out to me.
The death of Yvonne really drove him. As angry as he always was, with the chip on his shoulder, against the world mentality... It seems he really tried like Starkville to find something positive out of what happened there. He must've really struggled with that ordeal, obviously... as any parent would.

Also, how wrong White looked at the situation. He thought it was important for Nolan to publicly express that he was happy there. I don't think Nolan was ever truly happy anywhere. That's not his personally. He worked better when he was mad, with something to prove. I don't think there's any moment more telling to this than the press conference right after he won a title. He was mad. He had just proved everyone wrong and he wanted them to give him credit.

I think he believes he never got enough credit for that. I'd say he's right.

I really wanted to see the Pate/Adebayou deal hashed through. I think that cloud, along with the changes in recruiting... really put him behind the 8 ball. While a lot of people say he was purposely sticking it to the admin/fans with home state players, etc. and less talent, you could also point to what was potentially coming in to say he was swinging back around. The Hootie love from the fans/admins really bit him in the ass.

I know some say he quit, but frankly I never truly thought that... but for various reasons, I'm going to have a biased opinion there.

While I guess part of me is kind of glad a lot of the end wasn't shown, there's a HUGE gap there that the production just skipped over completely.

Two of the best UK-UA games were completely left out, which I found odd... and that's not even counting the ass whooping we threw on that Unforgettables team first trip into Rupp.

Still a great watch. Just wish there was more.
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #146 on: February 14, 2012, 11:31:22 PM »
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #147 on: February 14, 2012, 11:41:24 PM »
Red Boots isn't an angel or a devil. He is a complicated cat but bottom line is that he's a Razorback legend. That NC game was the proudest i've ever been as a Hog fan and I hope MA can get us back to being a serious program again.
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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #148 on: February 14, 2012, 11:46:15 PM »
Red Boots isn't an angel or a devil. He is a complicated cat but bottom line is that he's a Razorback legend. That NC game was the proudest i've ever been as a Hog fan and I hope MA can get us back to being a serious program again.

Exactly.
Think about how beloved and respected Pitino was in his tenure at UK, then look at what Nolan accomplished in that same time period.


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Re: "40 Minutes of Starkville" ESPNU, 8p.m. Official Thread
« Reply #149 on: February 14, 2012, 11:49:29 PM »
Red Boots isn't an angel or a devil. He is a complicated cat but bottom line is that he's a Razorback legend. That NC game was the proudest i've ever been as a Hog fan and I hope MA can get us back to being a serious program again.

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