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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #175 on: February 20, 2012, 04:56:43 PM »
I'm just speaking from my own personal experiences. I grew up and went to school with lots of kids that smoked weed. All but a handful went on to something more powerful; most threw their lives away as a result. If that's not a "gateway drug" I don't know what it.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #176 on: February 20, 2012, 04:59:42 PM »
The only reason AT ALL that someone could say marijuana is a gateway drug is because the people who sell marijuana are constantly pushing the other stuff.  It's not that marijuana causes people to want to do other drugs, it's BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL AND YOU HAVE TO GET IT FROM SOME SHITHEAD WHO WANTS TO SELL COCAINE AND CRACK TOO. 

So in effect the prohibition of marijuana is the gateway to illegal drug use.  Treat it like alcohol.  Sell it.  Tax it.  Get it off the streets and everyone's quality of life will be improved.

This. Marijuana is illegal. You've tried it. Why not try the rest?

You've not been caught with marijuana. You're not going to be caught with cocaine. etc. Why not?

And who hasn't tried marijuana without trying cigarrettes or alcohol?
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #177 on: February 20, 2012, 05:03:07 PM »
I'm just speaking from my own personal experiences. I grew up and went to school with lots of kids that smoked weed. All but a handful went on to something more powerful; most threw their lives away as a result. If that's not a "gateway drug" I don't know what it.

Again, did they use alcohol first? What about the most addictive drug tobacco? Why do you not consider those drugs as the gateway?

My personal experience is that most of our latest presidents smoked pot. Almost everyone from the baby boomer generation did also and they have done well for themselves.

My own friends that I was a stoner with, 3 are now attorneys and 2 own their own business. Only one is working a dead end job. God bless sheltered people.

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #178 on: February 20, 2012, 05:07:41 PM »
I'm just speaking from my own personal experiences. I grew up and went to school with lots of kids that smoked weed. All but a handful went on to something more powerful; most threw their lives away as a result. If that's not a "gateway drug" I don't know what it.

so apparently, obviously, marijuana made them want to use tougher drugs.


and obviously not the drug dealer or the drug dealer's circle of friends who also engage in other forms of illegal activities 

or anything like that.

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« Reply #179 on: February 20, 2012, 05:09:52 PM »
All I can attest to is what I've seen and experienced. No amount of twisting it will make me see otherwise.
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« Reply #180 on: February 20, 2012, 05:15:03 PM »
All I can attest to is what I've seen and experienced. No amount of twisting it will make me see otherwise.

Gotcha. You only know what you've seen. Forget about reading a book or two to get a different perspective. I used to think all Christians were Methodist because that's what I witnessed. Doesn't make it so now do it.

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« Reply #181 on: February 20, 2012, 05:37:15 PM »
Who are you, who is so wise in the ways of science?

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #182 on: February 20, 2012, 05:59:11 PM »
I don't know what statistics say b/c I don't really care to look this stuff up, but I know what addicts say.  Every single addict of a harder drug (not prescription, that's an issue in and of itself) I've talked to in person started with pot.  Probably b/c pot is easy to find.

And I've talked to a lot of addicts.

But some study you can find on the internet or in a book might be right.  It's just not MORE right than actual human interaction.
Actually most addicts if you ask them what the first illegal substance they used they say pot. When you ask them what was the first substance they used most all will say tabacco. I tried cigarettes, snuff, alcohol, ritalin,Xanax,Duster(canned air), cough syrup before i ever got pot. Just because something is legal doesnt mean it isnt an illicit substance.
Top three harmful addictions in the country:
Tabacco
Alcohol
Pharmaceuticals(prescription drugs)<---- saddest one is this one because a majority of these addicts are bein told to take thesedrugs by doctors.

Starkville ill even throw food in there as a prevelant addiction i dont see any of you trying to shut down your local mcdonalds.

Also the idea that the amount of hardcore drug users would increase if all was legal is stupid. Why would that happen? I,like most people, dont do heroin because it is horribly addictive and will kill you not because it is illegal. If it became legal I, like mos people am notgoing to all of the sudden start using it simply because oh now its legal. The peoPle who do hard drugs do them regaurdless of of legality same as the peoPle who dont do hard drugs regardless of the law. Legality isnt controlling the amount of users of hard drugs.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #183 on: February 20, 2012, 06:32:56 PM »
Actually most addicts if you ask them what the first illegal substance they used they say pot. When you ask them what was the first substance they used most all will say tabacco. I tried cigarettes, snuff, alcohol, ritalin,Xanax, cough syrup before i ever got pot. Just because something is legal doesnt mean it isnt an illicit substance.
Top three harmful addictions in the country:
Tabacco
Alcohol
Pharmaceuticals(prescription drugs)<---- saddest one is this one because a majority of these addicts are bein told to take thesedrugs by doctors.

Starkville ill even throw food in there as a prevelant addiction i dont see any of you trying to shut down your local mcdonalds.

Also the idea that the amount of hardcore drug users would increase if all was legal is stupid. Why would that happen? I,like most people, dont do heroin because it is horribly addictive and will kill you not because it is illegal. If it became legal I, like mos people am notgoing to all of the sudden start using it simply because oh now its legal. The peoPle who do hard drugs do them regaurdless of of legality same as the peoPle who dont do hard drugs regardless of the law. Legality isnt controlling the amount of users of hard drugs.

The places it's been illegal and then become legal or decriminalized have seen a reduction in use among kids and adults.  That is correct.  It has actually lowered the number of users by it not being a crime.  So really TravelHog wants to legalized it so it doesn't continue to ruin so many lives, he just doesn't know any better cause what he seen happen to Willie Ray and Jessie.

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #184 on: February 20, 2012, 07:49:15 PM »
I don't want weed legalized. Contrary to popular opinion on here, it is a gateway drug. Seen it too many times. You can downplay it all you want, but the bottom line is it's illegal. Why risk your future doing an illegal drug? Simple, the world is full of dumbasses. I could smoke weed, but I choose not to. I do not want to jeopardize my job nor my freedom.

I don't give two shits either way, but I just want to throw this out there: I think a lot of the reason for it being a "gateway drug" is not the drug itself, but rather the user's exposure/access to illegal activities (buying drugs). Legalization would eliminate much of that exposure or access to the seedy underworld of the pot trade.  :stache:

edit: aMm, guess I should have read all the other posts following yours.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #185 on: February 20, 2012, 07:52:24 PM »
I'm just speaking from my own personal experiences. I grew up and went to school with lots of kids that smoked weed. All but a handful went on to something more powerful; most threw their lives away as a result. If that's not a "gateway drug" I don't know what it.

Wow, I had a lot of friends in college who smoked weed, in fact several still do, and for the most part they are all pretty successful normal dudes.

So now what do we do?

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #186 on: February 20, 2012, 08:10:42 PM »
Everything is a gateway to something else.

Drinking beer usually leads to a guy getting older and thinking he maybe needs to drink something a little more sophisticated or lighter on his belly so he drinks whiskey or scotch.
Getting a blowjob from your first girlfriend usually leads to having sex with your honey and then fricking a mistress in the ass down the road.
Inventing the "home office" bullshit deduction on your taxes when you know damn well you don't do anything productive at home usually leads to wanton mileage write offs down the road.


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« Reply #187 on: February 20, 2012, 08:12:16 PM »
Wow, I had a lot of friends in college who smoked weed, in fact several still do, and for the most part they are all pretty successful normal dudes.

So now what do we do?

We get high...

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« Reply #188 on: February 20, 2012, 08:31:22 PM »
I don't know what statistics say b/c I don't really care to look this stuff up, but I know what addicts say.  Every single addict of a harder drug (not prescription, that's an issue in and of itself) I've talked to in person started with pot.  Probably b/c pot is easy to find.

And I've talked to a lot of addicts.

But some study you can find on the internet or in a book might be right.  It's just not MORE right than actual human interaction.

So by this logic...

Most serial killers start with small animals.  Small animals should therefore be outlawed, right?

People have addictive personalities.  They become addicted, whether it be to cocaine, cigarettes, whiskey, bonbons,chicken pot pie, bad cable shows, Italian porn, what the frick ever...stop blaming SOME innanimate object for a person's shortcomings.  Trust me, they won't hesitate to, they don't need you to carry that torch foe them.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #189 on: February 20, 2012, 08:40:17 PM »
All I can tell you people is that once I discovered anal sex, the whole world appeared in a different hue. 

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #190 on: February 20, 2012, 08:43:23 PM »
I'm just speaking from my own personal experiences. I grew up and went to school with lots of kids that smoked weed. All but a handful went on to something more powerful; most threw their lives away as a result. If that's not a "gateway drug" I don't know what it.

This is Not meant as a knock on you, God
Knows I grew up there too.

Think about where you are talking about., pot wasn't a gateway to addiction for a lot of them, it was a Gateway to $$$.  I know you know as many as I probably do who do/did grow weed and many moved onto cooking meth, trafficking blow, and who knows what else.  It was just a way out(or so they thought) for most of them.

Legalize it and the profit margin is out the window, nobody goes to jail for smoking it, and people move on with their lives and find a gainful means of fundage.
A lot of people get arrested and just say frick it, I'll never get a decent job now with a criminal record, so I might as well just be a criminal. 

You know it happens.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #191 on: February 20, 2012, 09:54:04 PM »
All I can tell you people is that once I discovered anal sex, the whole world appeared in a different hue.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #192 on: February 20, 2012, 09:54:41 PM »
Glad they are taking this trash off the streets! Lock her up and throw away the key!

Izard County Sheriff Tate Lawrence announced today that a Norfork woman, 25 year old Ashley Blalock, was arrested Sunday on numerous charges, including four felonies and one misdemeanor related to her allegedly furnishing prohibited articles to Carl Vannater, of Pineville, who was an inmate at the Izard County Detention Facility.
According to Sheriff Lawrence, at the time of Vannater's incarceration Ashley Blalock brought a bible containing tobacco, rolling papers and synthetic marijuana to give to him. Blalock was charged with 3 felonies, furnishing prohibited articles, conspiracy to furnish prohibited articles and possession of drug paraphernalia with the purpose to conceal a controlled substance. She was also charged with misdemeanor possession of a controlled substance.
A fourth felony, unlawful use of a communication device, was added to the list of charges as the result of phone conversations between Blalock and Vannater discussing how the prohibited items would be concealed and delivered.
Blalock remains in the Izard County Jail in lieu of a $25,000 bond. Similar charges have been filed and an arrest will be executed against Carl Vannater who is currently incarcerated at the Arkansas Department of Correction.    
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« Reply #193 on: February 20, 2012, 09:59:55 PM »
You know it's bad when you get arrested in jail.

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« Reply #194 on: February 20, 2012, 10:00:46 PM »
All I can tell you people is that once I discovered anal sex, the whole world appeared in a different hue.

You're leaving yourself wide open.  So to speak.

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« Reply #195 on: February 20, 2012, 10:04:40 PM »
All I can tell you people is that once I discovered anal sex, the whole world appeared in a different hue.
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« Reply #196 on: February 20, 2012, 10:11:08 PM »
You know it's bad when you get arrested in jail.

Zing!  :thumbup:
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #197 on: February 20, 2012, 11:52:04 PM »
Glad they are taking this trash off the streets! Lock her up and throw away the key!

Izard County Sheriff Tate Lawrence announced today that a Norfork woman, 25 year old Ashley Blalock, was arrested Sunday on numerous charges, including four felonies and one misdemeanor related to her allegedly furnishing prohibited articles to Carl Vannater, of Pineville, who was an inmate at the Izard County Detention Facility.
According to Sheriff Lawrence, at the time of Vannater's incarceration Ashley Blalock brought a bible containing tobacco, rolling papers and synthetic marijuana to give to him. Blalock was charged with 3 felonies, furnishing prohibited articles, conspiracy to furnish prohibited articles and possession of drug paraphernalia with the purpose to conceal a controlled substance. She was also charged with misdemeanor possession of a controlled substance.
A fourth felony, unlawful use of a communication device, was added to the list of charges as the result of phone conversations between Blalock and Vannater discussing how the prohibited items would be concealed and delivered.
Blalock remains in the Izard County Jail in lieu of a $25,000 bond. Similar charges have been filed and an arrest will be executed against Carl Vannater who is currently incarcerated at the Arkansas Department of Correction.   

So I gather that guys in prison feel that they aren't suffering enough, and would like a headache to go with their own personal version of Deliverance?  What the frick is the world coming to when the criminals are smoking the fake aMm?  You're in jail - what are they gonna do?  I'll admit I don't know, but do they piss you in the joint?  And if they do, isn't that kinda like blatantly admitting incompetence on the part of prison officials? 

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #198 on: February 21, 2012, 12:39:24 AM »
So I gather that guys in prison feel that they aren't suffering enough, and would like a headache to go with their own personal version of Deliverance?  What the frick is the world coming to when the criminals are smoking the fake aMm?  You're in jail - what are they gonna do?  I'll admit I don't know, but do they piss you in the joint?  And if they do, isn't that kinda like blatantly admitting incompetence on the part of prison officials? 

Lots of questions, I know.
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« Reply #199 on: February 21, 2012, 09:34:20 AM »
I was diagnosed with Crohn's four years ago. It got bad enough that I had four feet of my small intestine cut out.

Marijuana is the only way I can ingest food without my body rejecting it completely and it has been that way since a year before diagnosis and three years before surgery. I'm not talking about a weak appetite here...my stomach will literally begin the process of rejecting food as soon as it enters my mouth if I have not taken MM within an hour before eating.

The small bowel resection did fix the appetite problem for almost a year and I stopped marijuana use during that time, but the same problems returned late last summer.

I reacted horribly to Remicade infusions, which created four hours of misery each session at the cost of $36,000/year. Still did nothing for my appetite.

My insurance decided that Humira is what they wanted to start paying for and it is much less of a hassle, but still a $24,000/year medication. Still does nothing for my appetite.

I moved to Colorado recently and was able to get my temporary license within 24 hours of establishing residency. My doctor travels to her clinics in Aspen, Carbondale, Glenwood Springs, Rifle, and Grand Junction and prescribes marijuana almost exclusively. She is definitely somewhat of a hippy, but happens to be one with a Princeton education.

My town of 9,000 people has four dispensaries. Ten minutes down the road in Carbondale, a town half the size, there are eleven. The upcoming National Geo program mentioned earlier just completed their year of filming right in this area.

I get a free 1/8 each month from my designated dispensary and have also been given a rice crispy treat (85 mg of THC), cheeba chew, and a hand-rolled joint of the hog leg variety in the past week, all free of charge.

I am able to curb the pain and keep a vegetable that might not have been cooked long enough from ruining my day with debilitating gas buildup.
I now hike and ski weekly, which would be out of the question without this treatment. I maintain a healthy weight of 165-175 pounds after bottoming out at 125 just two summers ago. Life is good.

 

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