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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #225 on: February 23, 2012, 03:53:36 AM »
It was a joke.

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« Reply #226 on: February 23, 2012, 08:53:59 AM »


That's an issue with all the Puritan descended contemporary American versions of Christianity (in the south).
Fixed that. You'd be surprised how many pastors and church members have no problem with having a beer, and it's a growing movement among Christians to realize it's ok to have a beer and especially if that is the best way to meet and talk with someone that wants to talk to you about church stuff. Places like Seattle and Colorado it's really common, but there is a pastor in Dallas at a fairly large church who is very open about feeling like it's ok to have a beer. You just won't see any of that among the older bible belt crowd, but outside of that it's pretty common.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #227 on: February 23, 2012, 11:07:13 AM »
Somebody - I think it was Garrison Keiler - said, "Lutherans are very open and joyful in their drinking and very private and reserved in their worship.  Baptists are very open and joyful in their worship and very private in their drinking."
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #228 on: February 23, 2012, 12:03:06 PM »
I'm curious, seeing the LOL MIzz post about meth and thinking of this thread. Those of you that are passionate about weed being legalized or decriminalized, what do you think of meth? I assume some will be consistent in that the government shouldn't control any "drugs" and meth should be ok, but I also assume some will think the line stops at meth since it can hurt other people with exploding labs.

How should the government handle meth users and makers?
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #229 on: February 23, 2012, 12:09:28 PM »
I'm curious, seeing the LOL MIzz post about meth and thinking of this thread. Those of you that are passionate about weed being legalized or decriminalized, what do you think of meth? I assume some will be consistent in that the government shouldn't control any "drugs" and meth should be ok, but I also assume some will think the line stops at meth since it can hurt other people with exploding labs.

How should the government handle meth users and makers?

Personally I don't care what folks stick in their body but meth is a toxic chemical and should be regulated like any other toxic chemical.  There's no safe way to make it that I know of and it creates a hazardous environment for people, particularly kids, to live in.  So I guess I would be ok for legalizing it for recreational use but there should be stiff penalties for anyone trying to make their own.

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« Reply #230 on: February 23, 2012, 12:13:53 PM »
I'm curious, seeing the LOL MIzz post about meth and thinking of this thread. Those of you that are passionate about weed being legalized or decriminalized, what do you think of meth? I assume some will be consistent in that the government shouldn't control any "drugs" and meth should be ok, but I also assume some will think the line stops at meth since it can hurt other people with exploding labs.

How should the government handle meth users and makers?

I know this will draw fire but I say legalize it.
If it's legal there will be little to no profit in it for the makers, the messicans will stop trafficking it, I will be able to buy sudafed again...all will be right with the world come alergy season.

Users are going to use, nO matter what.  Might as well take the profit out of it for the criminal element and free up tons of tax dollars spent fighting
A Losing drug war, "punishing" drug users with prison at taxpayers expense...
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #231 on: February 23, 2012, 01:37:37 PM »
I'm curious, seeing the LOL MIzz post about meth and thinking of this thread. Those of you that are passionate about weed being legalized or decriminalized, what do you think of meth? I assume some will be consistent in that the government shouldn't control any "drugs" and meth should be ok, but I also assume some will think the line stops at meth since it can hurt other people with exploding labs.

How should the government handle meth users and makers?

Not sure how I feel about legalizing it (though Snoop has good points) I DO think that treating it as a criminal activity solves nothing, and rehabilitation is a far better solution than locking methheads in prison/Missouri
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #232 on: February 23, 2012, 01:44:51 PM »
Eh, I don't know if I want to drive the I-55 with a bunch of tweaked out meth heads. 

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #233 on: February 23, 2012, 01:50:40 PM »
I'm curious, seeing the LOL MIzz post about meth and thinking of this thread. Those of you that are passionate about weed being legalized or decriminalized, what do you think of meth? I assume some will be consistent in that the government shouldn't control any "drugs" and meth should be ok, but I also assume some will think the line stops at meth since it can hurt other people with exploding labs.

How should the government handle meth users and makers?

I'm a Libertarian, so I really am not concerned so long as others people aren't harmed in the manufacture or use of it.  This can get a little complicated in practice.  I feel a single man who lives alone and smokes crack is in no way doing anything illegal.  But if that same man has a couple kids and they get exposed to the drug itself or suffer as a result of their dad's use of the drug (e.g., no cereal/milk for breaskfast because daddy spent his last $20 on a rock last night), that's crossing the line if you ask me.  Same thing with manufacture - if you can make it without putting anyone other than yourself in harm's way, go for it.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #234 on: February 23, 2012, 01:51:57 PM »
Fixed that. You'd be surprised how many pastors and church members have no problem with having a beer, and it's a growing movement among Christians to realize it's ok to have a beer and especially if that is the best way to meet and talk with someone that wants to talk to you about church stuff. Places like Seattle and Colorado it's really common, but there is a pastor in Dallas at a fairly large church who is very open about feeling like it's ok to have a beer. You just won't see any of that among the older bible belt crowd, but outside of that it's pretty common.

I've drank beer with several preachers, including my current preacher. 

I'm curious, seeing the LOL MIzz post about meth and thinking of this thread. Those of you that are passionate about weed being legalized or decriminalized, what do you think of meth? I assume some will be consistent in that the government shouldn't control any "drugs" and meth should be ok, but I also assume some will think the line stops at meth since it can hurt other people with exploding labs.

How should the government handle meth users and makers?

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #235 on: February 23, 2012, 02:53:35 PM »
Man, all you f'ing hippies just need to shut the frick up about our taxes.  It's the law and if King George says we have to pay our taxes without representation in Parliament, so be it. 


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« Reply #236 on: February 23, 2012, 03:01:05 PM »
I wish they'd legalize Sudafed.  Frick a prescription.
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« Reply #237 on: February 23, 2012, 03:07:37 PM »
Eh, I don't know if I want to drive the I-55 with a bunch of tweaked out meth heads.

Hate to break it to you but you already are.

I'm a Libertarian, so I really am not concerned so long as others people aren't harmed in the manufacture or use of it.  This can get a little complicated in practice.  I feel a single man who lives alone and smokes crack is in no way doing anything illegal.  But if that same man has a couple kids and they get exposed to the drug itself or suffer as a result of their dad's use of the drug (e.g., no cereal/milk for breaskfast because daddy spent his last $20 on a rock last night), that's crossing the line if you ask me.  Same thing with manufacture - if you can make it without putting anyone other than yourself in harm's way, go for it.

I understand your concerns but the fact is these addicts are already doing this and we do have laws already in place that at least try and protect kids from worthless parents.  All these arguments could also be made for outlawing booze, gambling, and other vices that people get addicted.

Meth is some addictive nasty stuff so it is a difficult question.

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« Reply #238 on: February 23, 2012, 03:38:12 PM »
You'd hate my thoughts on DXM

Please expound. 

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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #239 on: February 23, 2012, 04:35:56 PM »
Meth may be the most dangerous drug; therefore, from a standpoint of practicality, it's probably more important that it be legalized than the others.

Prohibition does not fix or alleviate drug problems.  It magnifies and perpetuates them (for example, meth almost certainly wouldn't exist if drugs were legal).

You don't want people doing heroin or meth?  Legalize, educate, and mitigate.
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #240 on: February 23, 2012, 04:43:55 PM »
Meth may be the most dangerous drug; therefore, from a standpoint of practicality, it's probably more important that it be legalized than the others.

Prohibition does not fix or alleviate drug problems.  It magnifies and perpetuates them (for example, meth almost certainly wouldn't exist if drugs were legal).

You don't want people doing heroin or meth?  Legalize, educate, and mitigate.


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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #241 on: February 23, 2012, 04:54:11 PM »
Meth may be the most dangerous drug; therefore, from a standpoint of practicality, it's probably more important that it be legalized than the others.

Prohibition does not fix or alleviate drug problems.  It magnifies and perpetuates them (for example, meth almost certainly wouldn't exist if drugs were legal).

You don't want people doing heroin or meth?  Legalize, educate, and mitigate.
I know you've researched this a ton, so I'm not asking as an argument but out of curiosity. If legalizing drugs ends use, why is alcohol so huge? I understand prohibition created more crime with bootleggers and such but I'd guess fewer people drank during that time than they do now. How is legalizing all drugs going to end the use of heroin and meth?
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Re: DEA Raids TCU
« Reply #242 on: February 23, 2012, 05:05:12 PM »
As stated, all drugs should in theory be legal, but I worry about substances that cause real hallucinations.  I'm not talking about seeing the walls melt when you drop some good blotter, either.  I mean the real voices that start telling you to do things, the actually seeing things that aren't there and the accompanying need to get your guns and load them to "stay safe."

People aren't designed to run numerous consecutive days with no sleep.  So I would be concerned about major long-acting stimulants.  However, my concerns could be allayed with research conducted on bipolar patients in the manic phase and their apparent danger to society.  Currently, about 2-4% of the US adult population is considered to be Bipolar I or II (severe enough to have been hospitalized due to mania).  Given their unique disorder, these folks would just about equal your average meth user on 3 days or more of no sleep.  We're not hearing about a crime wave of bipolar mania patients, so maybe the absolute effects of meth abuse in public wouldn't be as bad as we fear. 
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« Reply #243 on: February 23, 2012, 05:12:27 PM »
If legalizing drugs ends use, why is alcohol so huge?

The drive to reach an alternative state of consciousness is one of the strongest and most universal drives associated with homo sapiens.  We will never change that.  It'd be like telling errybody to quit fricking, or quit eating.  In fact, its just like telling teenagers not to frick.  A few special cases can manage it, but not many. 
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« Reply #244 on: February 23, 2012, 05:27:44 PM »
I know you've researched this a ton, so I'm not asking as an argument but out of curiosity. If legalizing drugs ends use, why is alcohol so huge? I understand prohibition created more crime with bootleggers and such but I'd guess fewer people drank during that time than they do now. How is legalizing all drugs going to end the use of heroin and meth?

I can't say with authority that more or less people drank during prohibition, but I can tell you that there were more speakeasies in NYC during Prohibition than there are liquor stores there now, there were more DUIs etc etc.

Nothing is going to end drug use.  The best you can do is educate, and treat those who abuse as what they are, people with health problems (yes, self-inflicted health problems).

Legalizing does not end use or end the associated problems of use.  It simply allows you more regulatory control over the use, and greatly decreases the associated problems.   
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« Reply #245 on: February 23, 2012, 05:42:39 PM »
Legalizing does not end use or end the associated problems of use.  It simply allows you more regulatory control over the use, and greatly decreases the associated problems.   

I'd agree with the last portion of this statement for certain.  With the drug being illegal, you never know what it really contains.  Even marijuana can be laced.  (There was some nasty stuff coming into Arkansas where they sprayed Kansas ditch weed with bug spray.)  So health problems tend to be more prevalent.  Second, you have crime on two levels.  One, the manufacture and sale, and two, crimes committed to support a habit.
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« Reply #246 on: February 23, 2012, 05:45:41 PM »
(There was some nasty stuff coming into Arkansas where they sprayed Kansas ditch weed with bug spray.) 

That wasn't bug spray.  Paraquat.

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« Reply #247 on: February 23, 2012, 05:53:05 PM »
(for example, meth almost certainly wouldn't exist if drugs were legal).


you do know that meth has been around for a long , long time right? This statement is completely false. I mean frick, hitler and the natzis took meth
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« Reply #248 on: February 23, 2012, 05:56:19 PM »
you do know that meth has been around for a long , long time right? This statement is completely false. I mean frick, hitler and the natzis took meth

You do realize there are several degrees of separation between the amphetimines they were banging and bathtub crank, right?
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« Reply #249 on: February 23, 2012, 05:59:20 PM »
You do realize there are several degrees of separation between the amphetimines they were banging and bathtub crank, right?
oh, so only the kind you were talking about wouldnt exist, but all the other kinds would. i get it now
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